Do we really need a welcome to country when we are having ANZAC services? Me personally, I think no. Surely we can leave political correctness at home on ANZAC Day?

https://www.news.com.au/national/channel-9-reporter-veteran-in-debate-over-amzac-day-welcome-to-country/news-story/af6179255be476cfca33eb78c13ad521

'Welcome' means a right to accept visitors, in this case to the land of this country.  That is, the right as it stood in 1788. Otherwise, Aboriginals aren't able to offer anything more than Joe Blow can to 'welcome' you. On ANZAC Day, welcome then means aiding an invasion by a fleet from near the North Pole and surrender of the territory. Not good.
(Gallipoli was a defeat but do we need two?)

I was under the assumption the aboriginals fought alongside the others as well

For the Commonwealth of the King?
From what source does the Aboriginal welcome come?

is this where the neo nazis congregate?

No, it's about the logic and facts of history. Aboriginal people didn't choose to hand over territory, as ANZACS also didn't. The 'Welcome' is sloppy. Some Melbourne battles were:

1803  Port Phillip district conflict, VIC
October 1803 Corio Bay, near Melbourne, VIC
1830–1850 Port Phillip district Wars, VIC
July 1836 Werribee River, Melbourne, VIC
July 1836  Williamstown, Melbourne, VIC
1837 Geelong , VIC.

The welcome to country has simply been so over done it’s now worthless.
I have sat in a meeting only last week concerning a tender and as it was government the meeting began with the force reading of respect to elders past etc, etc.
One contractor immediately stood up and informed us all he would be outside and when the b.s was over we could come and collect him.
I was a little shocked as I would never treat a potential client like such. The look on my face must have said it all as the lady opposite informed me that it happens all the time.

He was duly recalled.

Regardless of what anyone might think of it I believe rather than heckling at an Anzac ceremony if it offend you so much. Keep your mouth shut and just leave.

Is it worthless to Aboriginal people who keep being seen with gum-leaf smoke and doing welcomes? Is ANZAC now overdone after 110 years?

I personally don’t see a link between the welcome to country ceremony and the Anzac tradition/ ceremony.

It’s ( welcome to country) hasn’t been part of the 110 year old Anzac tradition.
It’s a very new “ add on”.

Regardless, the Anzac ceremony is no place for heckling.

Anzac Day retains it respect and support perhaps because it occurs only once a year while welcome to country occurring each time I turn around.
I’m waiting to collect my mail one day and see a welcome to country ceremony to celebrate the opening of a letter.

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 25^th, 2025 at 6:14pm:

I personally don’t see a link between the welcome to country ceremony and the Anzac tradition/ ceremony. It’s ( welcome to country) hasn’t been part of the 110 year old Anzac tradition. It’s a very new “ add on”. Regardless, the Anzac ceremony is no place for heckling.

Agree.

But we've seen much worse.



There were scenes of chaos at the Opera House as the demonstration was hijacked by radical Muslims -  some wearing black masks - who threw lit flares at police and chanted 'bugger Israel' and 'bugger the Jews' beneath the steps of the iconic harbouside venue.  At one point, there were even chants of 'gas the Jews'. 

Daily Mail Australia witnessed a large crowd of men attempting to set light to an Israeli flag with firecrackers before stamping on it and tearing it to shreds.

Cries of 'Allahu Akbar' (God is great in Arabic) and 'death to the Jews' rang out as some members of the crowd swarmed towards the police barrier, brandishing torn pieces of the Israeli flag - despite the rally organisers calling for protesters to respect the police. 

Over 100 cops formed a ring of steel along the steps of the Opera House and didn't intervene when flares or other projectiles were thrown at them.   Instead, they placed the lit flares in buckets of water as acrid smoke filled the air.

As protesters arrived at Town Hall earlier in the evening, a man clutching an Israeli flag was dragged away by three police officers for 'disrupting the peace' - before he even had a chance to unfurl it.

In an video of the incident taken by Daily Mail Australia, the man can be heard repeatedly saying 'I've done nothing wrong'.  An officer told him: 'You've been arrested in relation to a breach of the peace.'   A speaker then told the booing crowd: 'Zionists don't deserve our attention.'

In total, Daily Mail Australia witnessed three individuals attempt to fly an Israeli flag before being chased away by protesters or arrested by the police 'for their own safety'.

Abigail Lane, 23, a social care student originally from Tasmania, had an Israeli flag with the word 'peace' taken from her by police.

'A police officer came and snatched it out of my hands and said: "Why the hell are you going in there with that sign? What the hell do you think you're doing?",' she said.

'I said: "I'm not Palestinian, I'm not Israeli. I'm just Irish-Australian and I don't like that we are inciting hate here in Sydney. My sign said love not hate".

'I don't think inciting more anger and violence is the solution.'

Shockingly, NSW Police felt compelled to warn Sydney's Jewish community from entering Sydney's CBD on Monday evening over safety concerns.

'NSW police are urging the community not to attend the Sydney Opera House or Town Hall this evening,' an email from the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies to members read.

NSW Premier Chris Minns said he 'deplored' the rally and described it as being 'against the tenets of our multicultural community'.

'We lit up the Opera House in support of innocent people who have had their lives slaughtered or loved ones kidnapped,' Mr Minns told Sunrise.

'The community expectation from the vast majority of people I have spoken to in the past 48 hours has been horror at the actions of Hamas and also the demonstrations that have taken place in Sydney in the past 48 hours.'

Mr Albanese earlier called on pro-Palestinian protesters to abandon the rally, claiming there was 'nothing to celebrate from the loss of innocent lives'.

'I just find it abhorrent and it should be condemned, but unequivocally by everyone,' Mr Albanese told 2GB's Drive with Chris O'Keefe.

Robert Gregory, CEO of the Australian Jewish Association said 'Australians should be very worried'.

'The police gave a warning for Jews not to come into the area,' Mr Gregory said.

'Think about that. Imagine if there were mobs hunting blacks or gays in Sydney's CBD.

'Imagine if the police warned blacks or gays not to come into Sydney's CBD.'

A "Neo-Nazi" they say?  I'm surprised there was only one.  We don;t need any division and supremacism in this country.

The 'governor' - FFS - just another sweet ride for some old mate of no real value.

The RSL has no reason to apologise to any elder.

Frank wrote on Apr 25^th, 2025 at 6:24pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 25th, 2025 at 6:14pm: Regardless, the Anzac ceremony is no place for heckling. Agree. But we've seen much worse.

Worse heckling?

chimera wrote on Apr 25^th, 2025 at 6:38pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 25th, 2025 at 6:24pm: Daves2017 wrote on Apr 25th, 2025 at 6:14pm: Regardless, the Anzac ceremony is no place for heckling. Agree. But we've seen much worse. Worse heckling?

Yes.
Read on, numpty.

There were scenes of chaos at the Opera House as the demonstration was hijacked by radical Muslims -  some wearing black masks - who threw lit flares at police and chanted 'bugger Israel' and 'bugger the Jews' beneath the steps of the iconic harbouside venue.  At one point, there were even chants of 'gas the Jews'.

Worse heckling of the meeting that was under way?

chimera wrote on Apr 25^th, 2025 at 6:47pm:

Worse heckling of the meeting that was under way?

Much worse.

Frank wrote on Apr 25^th, 2025 at 6:24pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 25th, 2025 at 6:14pm: I personally don’t see a link between the welcome to country ceremony and the Anzac tradition/ ceremony. It’s ( welcome to country) hasn’t been part of the 110 year old Anzac tradition. It’s a very new “ add on”. Regardless, the Anzac ceremony is no place for heckling. Agree. But we've seen much worse.

Ah.

Frannie plays the 'Whataboutism' card.

Simple answer - ban welcome to country.... is no welcome - is no problem...

Frank wrote on Apr 25^th, 2025 at 8:42pm:

chimera wrote on Apr 25th, 2025 at 6:47pm: Worse heckling of the meeting that was under way? Much worse.

They were 1 group with the organisers asking for no violence. They can't heckle themselves. So the heckling was by the anti-Muslims.

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Apr 25^th, 2025 at 8:55pm:

Simple answer - ban welcome to country.... is no welcome - is no problem...

How about we ban Nazis instead?

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25^th, 2025 at 8:56pm:

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Apr 25th, 2025 at 8:55pm: Simple answer - ban welcome to country.... is no welcome - is no problem... How about we ban Nazis instead?

Which ones?  The Abo-Nazis, the Feminazis, the Wokenazis?

Is no 'welcome - is no problem.  We all live here already.

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Apr 25^th, 2025 at 8:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2025 at 8:56pm: Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Apr 25th, 2025 at 8:55pm: Simple answer - ban welcome to country.... is no welcome - is no problem... How about we ban Nazis instead? Which ones?

The neo-Nazis who disrupted Anzac Day services in Melbourne and Perth.

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Apr 25^th, 2025 at 8:55pm:

Simple answer - ban welcome to country.... is no welcome - is no problem...

Ban is what legalist fetishists do. Better to simply frown on it. Free people do not need every aspect if their lives to be legislated.

Welcome to country is bollocks unless it is one Abo tribe welcoming another tribe. It is meaningless bullshit in every other setting. Which is to say almost every time. I am not entering and exiting Abo country, nor does the Indian Uber Eats scooter rider, nor the Chinese doctor nor the rest of Australia. 

Anglo Whites should be performing 'Welcome to Civilisation' ceremonies every time they come across an Abo in a town or city.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25^th, 2025 at 8:56pm:

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Apr 25th, 2025 at 8:55pm: Simple answer - ban welcome to country.... is no welcome - is no problem... How about we ban Nazis instead?

Off topic but I can’t let that go.

I completely agree.

The fact we have Neo Nazi on display in this country is disgusting in the extreme.

Remember that these people believe in killing every single Jew in the world.

Oh….. I forgot, so does our Muslim population that vastly outnumber the evil Neo Nazis.

We have probably twenty 'Neo-Nazis' playing at Third Reich - they are frankly dreaming and will never take power here.

I'm just wondering if this guy is really a 'Neo-Nazi' or if that is just the media playing games with itself again.  If you listen to dork Media everyone not a poof or a tranny or a Latino crim or a Musso Luvvah is a Nazi in the US ... especially the ones who go to church.

That said - there is no place for any Welcome To country any more - we're here, you've said it once - no need to try to rub it in.

Welcome To Reality.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25^th, 2025 at 8:56pm:

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Apr 25th, 2025 at 8:55pm: Simple answer - ban welcome to country.... is no welcome - is no problem... How about we ban Nazis instead?

Oh?! You too want to ban Muslim immigration??


Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!”
      He chortled in his joy.

Albo reckons those who boo'd should 'face the full force of the law' - spoken like a true Nazi!!

What would they charge 'em with?

Get with it, Albo - NOBODY wants any more 'welcomes to country'... we're sick of it and we all know what it means - we are only here out of the good will of our Overlords who actually own the place - and if they don't actually own it, having paid for it or done anything beyond walking around on some of it - you bastards will soon see that they do!

WA is paying 'rent' now, to the tune of $1.3Bn - because of some fatuous claim of ownership over Perth and Kalgoorlie because grand-daddy might have once walked there and fought off or took it from the other clan group in the old imperial colonisation way by the spear - worth nothing unless it was developed and producing.... sand dunes and spinifex .... give 'em ten clam shells for it!!  Up in Queensland some shire is being slugged with a claim for $50m each Abo for claims of past ownership along the same lines - without Whartey's development etc there'd be no $50m to grab for...

I see no good to come from any of this - only deep, deep trouble....

Do not vote for any of the parties who are committed to this and other insanity - generally the woke rubbish - and be careful who you do vote for, and start demanding that the public servants who are pushing this madness all be sacked without benefits as punishment for the very real harm they are perpetrating on everyone, including the Abos.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25^th, 2025 at 8:52pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 25th, 2025 at 6:24pm: Daves2017 wrote on Apr 25th, 2025 at 6:14pm: I personally don’t see a link between the welcome to country ceremony and the Anzac tradition/ ceremony. It’s ( welcome to country) hasn’t been part of the 110 year old Anzac tradition. It’s a very new “ add on”. Regardless, the Anzac ceremony is no place for heckling. Agree. But we've seen much worse. Ah. Frannie plays the 'Whataboutism' card.

The old boy pays his respects to the traditional owners of the land and elders past, present and emerging.

We will make America great again, no?

I'm sick of all the Welcome to Country stuff.

I still call Fraser Island Fraser Island too.  ;)

Well I don't. I call it Jfslzlwwv. (Or Zlkwpqshrs).

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 25^th, 2025 at 9:53pm:

I completely agree. The fact we have Neo Nazi on display in this country is disgusting in the extreme.

and to make matters worse, many of the ANZACs that were celebrate on Anzac day, died fighting the rise nazism

chimera wrote on Apr 25^th, 2025 at 4:02pm:

For the Commonwealth of the King? From what source does the Aboriginal welcome come?

Ernie Dingo and a welcome to the NZ football team.

Peter Dutton has declared that Indigenous Welcome to Country ceremonies are “overdone and cheapens the significance of what it was meant to do” and pushed for an end to the curriculum teaching children to be “ashamed” of Australia, setting up a contest with Anthony Albanese on social ­issues days out from the election

John Smith wrote on Apr 26^th, 2025 at 11:10am:

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 25th, 2025 at 9:53pm: I completely agree. The fact we have Neo Nazi on display in this country is disgusting in the extreme. and to make matters worse, many of the ANZACs that were celebrate on Anzac day, died fighting the rise nazism

One guy identifying as a Neo-Nazi - clearly a single lone nutter....  I doubt anyone real in this country pays them much heed.  Trouble is - the entire putsch for control by certain groups, primarily of the 'left' is exactly the same as Nazism  .. all true despots are like that, filled with imagination of how wonderful and high-flying their moral stand is.... and filled with hatred for 'the other guy' who just happens to be anyone who doesn't agree with them.

Extremists of left and right are no different in reality... is this guy worse in any way than some group who go out and screech with megaphones about Israel etc, demanding change their way etc?  His one saving grace was that ...................... he was alone.

Welcome to country has no place on the national stage.  If everyone involved agrees on a personal basis for some specific thing, go for it - but it must not be forced on everyone. 

To put it in Australian vernacular:-  "Awright, smart-arse - put it to a vote then!  I'll bet you lose 61-39 again!"

Labor majority government wrote on Apr 25^th, 2025 at 4:00pm:

I was under the assumption the aboriginals fought alongside the others as well

They did, but this is not actually about that, it is about the people who voted against the Voice now struggling to maintain their self-imposed victimhood routine.

They deliberately ignore the meaning behind these moments, instead using them as a springboard for inappropriate and often racist outbursts, whether in person or online.

Thankfully, during the ANZAC ceremonies where Indigenous Elders were speaking, those few who attempted to boo were swiftly dealt with, as crowds made it clear they would be removed if they did not show respect. While violence is never to be encouraged, sometimes firm action is necessary to uphold basic decency, basically, punch a nazi.

If these people are so easily triggered by being welcomed to their own country, this should send them over the ledge,

https://i.imgur.com/jyQk1x1.png

But they don't care about that because it's about racism, not anything to do with welcoming.