Commonwealth loses High Court battle in landmark native title compensation claim over Gove Peninsula 8-)

Looks like we need a new high court.... this one is bemuddled and confused.  This 'Native Title' has grown like Grendl from a simple right to use into a ravening monster... but then ... those who built it knew it would.

All aspects of Native title need to be reviewed and fully clarified and made law.

Just another cash grab after all the wasted royalties.

Looks like we need a Personal Individual rights code so people can get compensation for losses due to government action or inaction.

This is very interesting, thanks for the link Brian.

It’s far from over particularly if “ other clans” have a competing native title claim for the area.

It’s all very beyond my ability to fully understand but my take away is the government has seriously messed up and it’s going too be a lawyer’s picnic while Rio Tinto walks away laughing all the way to the bank.

What happened to all the 'royalty' money?  Gone with the wind again?

Maybe they need a full review of their spending etc up there.... that issue seems to have gone quiet in the media with an election coming up  and Labor already on the ropes ...  ;D ;D ;D

Don't look at me - I was always a Labour man - not a Labor one... and I took hits as a Union delegate... and only later realised how wrong I'd been in this 'modern age' ... when 'social science' frantasies overtook reality ...

Word For Today:-

'frantasy' - a frantic fantasy .. a fanatical venture into unreality ... unicorn dreaming with rainbows...

Grappler New Dictionary, 2025 as abridged - Grappler University Publications (now stolen) after my site Grappler University was silenced..

Well the Cheer Mob lost their land privileges for a block of Coon Cheese to be named after them.

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 12^th, 2025 at 10:22am:

Commonwealth loses High Court battle in landmark native title compensation claim over Gove Peninsula 8-)

Editor's Note 12/3/25:
An earlier version of this story incorrectly stated the Commonwealth was
liable for compensation of up to $700 million.
It is unclear how much compensation may be awarded to the Gumatj people.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 12^th, 2025 at 8:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 12th, 2025 at 10:22am: Commonwealth loses High Court battle in landmark native title compensation claim over Gove Peninsula 8-) Editor's Note 12/3/25: An earlier version of this story incorrectly stated the Commonwealth was liable for compensation of up to $700 million. It is unclear how much compensation may be awarded to the Gumatj people.

What have they lost?  They were paid royalties ...

Bongs are smarter than whites here.
The colour of money is black and they're reaping it in.
Even the Indians are reaping it in via the black market by not having to pay tax.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 12^th, 2025 at 9:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2025 at 8:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Mar 12th, 2025 at 10:22am: Commonwealth loses High Court battle in landmark native title compensation claim over Gove Peninsula 8-) Editor's Note 12/3/25: An earlier version of this story incorrectly stated the Commonwealth was liable for compensation of up to $700 million. It is unclear how much compensation may be awarded to the Gumatj people. What have they lost?  They were paid royalties ...

I “ assume “ the argument will go something along these lines-

“Once dispossessed of land, lore and culture (everything), you lose dignity, you lose pride, and you have low self esteem. Indigenous people have occupied Australia for at least 60 000 years and have evolved with the land - changing it and changing with it.
http://www.workingwithindigenousaustralians.“

“Info
The Land - Working with Indigenous Australians.

It’s going too be interesting to see what happens.
I doubt anything really other than legal arguments for the next 30 to 50 years but eventually it will reach a finish.
I speculate in the  event of a end both our indigenous brothers and sisters and the Australian taxpayer will be screwed over and both lawyers and politicians will be the winners.

It could be settled out of court of course and we will never know.

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 12^th, 2025 at 10:22am:

Commonwealth loses High Court battle in landmark native title compensation claim over Gove Peninsula 8-)

Twilight zone

Jasin wrote on Mar 12^th, 2025 at 11:17pm:

Bongs are smarter than whites here. The colour of money is black and they're reaping it in. Even the Indians are reaping it in via the black market by not having to pay tax.

That's why there is a call to stop mass immigration from such areas... mud hut cunning is no substitute for genuine enterprise, social contribution, and solid citizenship...

$700 million of our tax dollars going to go to a bunch of people?  ::)

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 13^th, 2025 at 9:16am:

$700 million of our tax dollars going to go to a bunch of people?  ::)

They've already been fed for years on 'royalties' and 'jobs' - now they want the gravy train to continue.

Lessee now - do the workers laid off when it all closes get 'compensation' for loss of cultural life etc?

One law for all - all laws for one - or no law at all!!

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 12^th, 2025 at 10:22am:

Commonwealth loses High Court battle in landmark native title compensation claim over Gove Peninsula 8-)

The High Court needs to have a giant enema - and get rid of all thses lefty woke Judges.

Now there's another Yunupingu Big Man in charge up there. Djawa Yunupingu - Galarrwuy Yunupingus brother ... how fitting. ::)

Gularrwuy, this bloke and the whole Gumatj clan have been receiving/controlling multi millions of dollars in royalties from the bauxite mining companies since it began in 1971.

Now this decision has put an extra $700 million into a Future Fund for the clans on the Gove Peninsular & this Gumatj mob will no doubt milk it for all its worth and nothing will change for the other clans/groups there.

This excerpt from February 1999 - written by the Managing Director of Nabalco - Colin J Agnew

https://www.aph.gov.au/parliamentary_business/committees/house_of_representatives_committees?url=atsia/reeves/sub4.pdf



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Presently the local (ie. Section 64 (3)) royalty equivalents amounting to approximately $2.7 million annually are paid as to: • 65% to Gumatj Association with which about 23% of the Aboriginal people resident in the Gove region are connected ABORIGINAL LAND RIGHTS (NT) ACT 1976 (“ACT”) REVIEW S/528295/01 • 20% to some members of the Rirratjingu clan representing an unknown percentage of the Aboriginal people resident in the Gove region are connected; and • 15% to Laynhapuy Association with which about 41% of the Aboriginal people resident in the Gove region are connected. Over the years, the distribution of ‘local’ royalty payments has moved from the original 100% distribution to Yirrkala Dhanbul Association, to 50% to Dhanbul and 50% to Gumatj, to 100% to Gumatj, and finally to the above distribution. Leaving aside the “fairness” of the apportionment between the various groups, there is no accountability as to how the local proportion of the royalties are spent. Not all of the 876 Aboriginal people living within the Gove Peninsula nor all of the 622 Aboriginal people in the homeland areas, receive benefits from this money. As well, there is little evidence that any of the Aboriginal people deemed to be affected by the Gove mining operations have benefited in any tangible way (eg. housing, health, communication, training etc) from the receipt of mining royalty equivalents. If the royalty payments made by the Participants were paid directly to the Aboriginal people who have a close geographic proximity to the mining and processing operations (namely those resident at Marngarr, Nhulunbuy and Yirrkala) the payments would be equal to approximately $51,300 per family per annum free of tax (5 family members assumed). Even if the Aboriginal people living in the homelands of the broader Gove region were included in this calculation, the distribution would still amount to approximately $30,000 free of tax per family per annum. There is significant disputation today at Gove in relation to the distribution of ‘local’ royalty equivalents. One group of Aborigines feel that the monies should be disbursed to the traditional owners of the area from which the bauxite is extracted. This raises the first problem of defining who the traditional owners of an area are. A section of the Gumatj clan claims ‘ownership’ of the area on which the mine is situated. This is disputed by the members of another section of the Gumatj clan who claim that they are the traditional owners of the land by virtue of being nominated as caretakers of that land by the Lamamirri clan. The situation is exacerbated by the fact that descendants of the Lamamirri clan have recently surfaced at Gove to claim they are the traditional owners.

This has been going on for 54 years from 1971 to the present day and all the Albanese Govt & High Court can come up with is throwing nearly a $billion dollars at them. ::) All the welfare/sitdown money is still on top of that.

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 13^th, 2025 at 9:16am:

$700 million of our tax dollars going to go to a bunch of people?  ::)

billions in their minerals went to a bunch of other people ::)

Jasin wrote on Mar 12^th, 2025 at 11:17pm:

Bongs are smarter than whites here. The colour of money is black and they're reaping it in. Even the Indians are reaping it in via the black market by not having to pay tax.

No they're not - it's just the Govt/politicians & the high court have no balls & no commonsense.

All this money will be pissed away like the royalties have for 54 years.

John Smith wrote on Mar 14^th, 2025 at 12:32pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 13th, 2025 at 9:16am: $700 million of our tax dollars going to go to a bunch of people?  ::) billions in their minerals went to a bunch of other people ::)

BS - they didn't even know the stuff existed.

And they've been paid multi millions in royalties since 1971.

And had not one clan - The Gumatj aka Yunipingu lot - been controlling it all - in 1999 every family would have been receiving $53,000 per year tax free plus their welfare payments.

They didn't even share it with their own.

You wouldn't have a clue.

Gnads wrote on Mar 14^th, 2025 at 12:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2025 at 12:32pm: Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 13th, 2025 at 9:16am: $700 million of our tax dollars going to go to a bunch of people?  ::) billions in their minerals went to a bunch of other people ::) BS - they didn't even know the stuff existed. And they've been paid multi millions in royalties since 1971. And had not one clan - The Gumatj aka Yunipingu lot - been controlling it all - in 1999 every family would have been receiving $53,000 per year tax free plus their welfare payments. They didn't even share it with their own. You wouldn't have a clue.

That's why good people, black and white, up there are calling for a full audit of such things.  Every single family should be in clover with a home etc - many still live in humpies and on handouts while the 'African Kings' (it's a social syndrome) live in absolute luxury.

Those people should be held accountable for what they did with TRIBAL money!

Gnads wrote on Mar 14^th, 2025 at 12:41pm:

BS - they didn't even know the stuff existed.

irrevant

John Smith wrote on Mar 14^th, 2025 at 1:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Mar 14th, 2025 at 12:41pm: BS - they didn't even know the stuff existed. irrevant

No it's not .... so how was it ever their minerals?

Gnads wrote on Mar 14^th, 2025 at 1:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2025 at 1:41pm: Gnads wrote on Mar 14th, 2025 at 12:41pm: BS - they didn't even know the stuff existed. irrevant No it's not .... so how was it ever their minerals?

so if you have something in your attic you are unaware off anyone can claim it? what are you stupid? :D

John Smith wrote on Mar 14^th, 2025 at 1:53pm:

Gnads wrote on Mar 14th, 2025 at 1:51pm: John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2025 at 1:41pm: Gnads wrote on Mar 14th, 2025 at 12:41pm: BS - they didn't even know the stuff existed. irrevant No it's not .... so how was it ever their minerals? so if you have something in your attic you are unaware off anyone can claim it? what are you stupid? :D

They didn't have attics - it was lying under the surface on open range... Open Range needs to be restored for all to share ...

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 14^th, 2025 at 2:03pm:

They didn't have attics

no sh1t sherlock :D

John Smith wrote on Mar 14^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 14th, 2025 at 2:03pm: They didn't have attics no sh1t sherlock :D

Sad thing is that the Govers should all have been living in nice homes etc by now - but their 'leaders' took the lot for themselves and only a little trickledown went through to the peasants.... human nature in microcosm ... but you should know that.

You can't be so blind and so ill-disposed to the ordinary Aborigine that you refuse to accept those very real issues 'out there' that are disastrous for the majority of them.  You reckon Whartey's got it all wrong and has too many chiefs with hands in the pie and not an Indian permitted - they are no different at all 'out there'.

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John Smith wrote on Mar 14^th, 2025 at 1:53pm:

Gnads wrote on Mar 14th, 2025 at 1:51pm: John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2025 at 1:41pm: Gnads wrote on Mar 14th, 2025 at 12:41pm: BS - they didn't even know the stuff existed. irrevant No it's not .... so how was it ever their minerals? so if you have something in your attic you are unaware off anyone can claim it? what are you stupid? :D

Seems you're the stupid TNUC.


Quote:

3.6 In general terms, landowners are owners of the surface of the land and have no automatic right to the minerals and petroleum, including unconventional gas, which may be on the land. They do not receive any royalties and cannot refuse access to holders of petroleum exploration or mining permits, licences or leases.

As a pointed exemption the Gove Aboriginals & various other groups across the country have & do receive royalties & have done for many decades.

But if they were treated as any other land owner they wouldn't be paid any royalties for minerals under the ground.

Discrimination again.

www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Gasmining/Gasmining/~/media/Committees/gasmining_ctte/Interim_Report/c03.pdf

What does the High Court native title decision mean for Aboriginal people nationwide? 8-)

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2025 at 10:15am:

What does the High Court native title decision mean for Aboriginal people nationwide? 8-)

It means they should stop being treated as separate and bought off with payments for everything in sight.  It's 2025 - not 1787.

Therefore every property owner should be able to claim "just rights" too ... especially if govt grants mining licence to minerals under a privately owned property!

This will open up huge claims from millions of Australians!?

You can’t just have one law for one ethnic group can you?
Isn’t that called racism ?

Daves2017 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2025 at 12:32pm:

Therefore every property owner should be able to claim "just rights" too ... especially if govt grants mining licence to minerals under a privately owned property! This will open up huge claims from millions of Australians!? You can’t just have one law for one ethnic group can you? Isn’t that called racism ?

That's why the Voice went down.

John Smith wrote on Mar 14^th, 2025 at 12:32pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 13th, 2025 at 9:16am: $700 million of our tax dollars going to go to a bunch of people?  ::) billions in their minerals went to a bunch of other people ::)

Billions of Australians’ minerals.

Apartheid against Blacks is racism.
Apartheid against Whites is not.
This is the LEFT's narrative.

Jasin wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2025 at 3:31pm:

Apartheid against Blacks is racism. Apartheid against Whites is not. This is the LEFT's narrative.

This is progress... Big Brother has spoken...