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Message started by whiteknight on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 11:06am

Title: Well Said Treasurer Where's Money Coming From
Post by whiteknight on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 11:06am
Coalition pledges $3 billion to acquire extra joint strike fighter jets   :(

ABC News
March 2 2025

Australia last year scrapped plans to aquire an extra 28 joint strike fighter jets.

In short:
The Coalition says it will acquire an extra 28 F-35 joint strike fighter jets if it wins the next federal election.

Labor last year scrapped plans to acquire the extra jets as part of a re-prioritisation of defence spending.

The Coalition says the extra money is a down-payment on its pledge to spend more on defence.   :(


Australia will spend $3 billion to acquire dozens of extra joint strike fighter jets, if the federal opposition wins the looming election.

The government scrapped plans to buy an additional 28 fighter jets last year, as part of re-prioritisation of defence spending.

That saved the government around $2 billion, which Labor has since committed to other defence priorities.

Coalition frontbencher James Paterson said his party would reverse that and increase Australia's fleet of F-35s to 100.

He said the commitment was part of a pledge to boost Australia's spending on defence.

"In one of its many cuts to our defence capability, this government cancelled the fourth squadron, cancelled 28 joint strike fight fighters that we otherwise would have received," Senator Paterson told the ABC's Insiders.

"We think that is a mistake and this is a down payment on our commitment for increased and faster defence spending."

Australia has purchased 72 joint strike fighters to date.

Labor insists by delaying the retirement of super hornet jets, purchasing extra F-35s was no longer essential.

The Coalition has costed its commitment at $3 billion but refused to say how it would pay for it.   :( 

Senator Paterson said the Coalition would reveal its costings closer to the election.

"We'll be outlining all of our expenses in the campaign as normal, all of our costings at the normal time in the normal way," he said.

"It was revealed in Senate estimates this week that Labor has already walked away from their commitment only a year ago to spend 2.4 per cent of GDP (on defence) by the end of the decade.

"Now it looks like it will be 2.33 per cent instead of 2.4 per cent and this is not a time to walk away from a commitment like that."

Treasurer questions where money will come from
Treasurer Jim Chalmers told Sky News that he had seen headlines but not the details of the Coalition's joint strike fighter announcement.

But he questioned how the Coalition could afford an extra $3 billion, insisting the opposition's "secret costs" would come with "secret cuts".

"We've got a big squadron of F-35s and they are important, they are a very important piece of kit," he said.

"But we don't know where [Opposition Leader Peter Dutton] will find this $3 billion from and he should tell us about that.

"More broadly, you can't find extra billions for planes, or for longer lunches for bosses or for nuclear reactors without coming for Medicare."   :(

Title: Re: Well Said Treasurer Where's Money Coming From
Post by whiteknight on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 11:26am
Well said treasurer.  Where's the money coming from?.  Why wait till after the election and tell us now Mr Dutton?.   :(   

Title: Re: Well Said Treasurer Where's Money Coming From
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 12:16pm
At least the LNP has said it will cut the fat out of the Public Service. Albo has not said where his spending spree funding is coming from.  ;)

Title: Re: Well Said Treasurer Where's Money Coming From
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 12:19pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 12:16pm:
At least the LNP has said it will cut the fat out of the Public Service. Albo has not said where his spending spree funding is coming from.  ;)


Dutton has not said how he will fund his policies and stated he will detail the cuts after the election (ala Tony Abbott)....Labor have detailed their policies in the budget and paid for their commitments with real savings not some vauge promise to cut the public service and hire private contractors instead!!!

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Well Said Treasurer Where's Money Coming From
Post by thegreatdivide on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 2:05pm

whiteknight wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 11:06am:
Coalition pledges $3 billion to acquire extra joint strike fighter jets   :(

ABC News
March 2 2025

The Coalition has costed its commitment at $3 billion but refused to say how it would pay for it.   :(


Should be illegal: enables the Coalition to get the war-mongers on board, while ignoring the expense.


Quote:
Senator Paterson said the Coalition would reveal its costings closer to the election.


ie he wants to lock-in votes from war-mongers who will tolerate brushing the cost aside. 


Quote:
"We'll be outlining all of our expenses in the campaign as normal, all of our costings at the normal time in the normal way," he said.


Yeh - normal fraudulent methods, as usual. 


Quote:
Treasurer Jim Chalmers questioned how the Coalition could afford an extra $3 billion, insisting the opposition's "secret costs" would come with "secret cuts".

"More broadly, you can't find extra billions for planes, or for longer lunches for bosses or for nuclear reactors without coming for Medicare."   :(


True.

But even Chalmers is locked into the mainstream insistence on  'government austerity', which is likely to result in Labor losing the next election, owing to insufficient spending on health, education and housing, thereby alienating half the population who depend on that spending.   

Title: Re: Well Said Treasurer Where's Money Coming From
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 4:45pm

whiteknight wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 11:26am:
  Where's the money coming from? 


That's what you should ask with every poo policy from the Greens

Title: Re: Well Said Treasurer Where's Money Coming From
Post by John Smith on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 5:26pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 12:16pm:
At least the LNP has said it will cut the fat out of the Public Service. ;)



have they told you by how much they will increase spending on private contractors to do the same work?

Title: Re: Well Said Treasurer Where's Money Coming From
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 5:31pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 5:26pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 12:16pm:
At least the LNP has said it will cut the fat out of the Public Service. ;)



have they told you by how much they will increase spending on private contractors to do the same work?


Cutting esafety Karen $450K a year + expenses+ legal fees for all her failed court case against Elon will save heaps.
Abolishing whole department will save millions

Cutting Indigenous ambassador $350K a year + over $200K expenses will save heaps.

They aren't going to hire private contractors to do that work.

There is 2 jobs haven't even started millions saved.
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Well Said Treasurer Where's Money Coming From
Post by John Smith on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 5:34pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 5:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 5:26pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 12:16pm:
At least the LNP has said it will cut the fat out of the Public Service. ;)



have they told you by how much they will increase spending on private contractors to do the same work?


Cutting esafety Karen $450K a year + expenses+ legal fees for all her failed court case against Elon will save heaps.
Abolishing whole department will save millions

Cutting Indigenous ambassador $350K a year + over $200K expenses will save heaps.

They aren't going to hire private contractors to do that work.

There is 2 jobs haven't even started millions saved.
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


the libs spent $20B in private contractors in scummos last year alone. :D :D

You could sack every indigenous position and all the esafety karens (whoever the fcuak you are talking about ... sorry, I don't speak idiot) 100 times over and still not save that sort of money

Title: Re: Well Said Treasurer Where's Money Coming From
Post by Bobby. on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 5:34pm

The RBA will print the money like they always do.

Title: Re: Well Said Treasurer Where's Money Coming From
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 8:19pm

Title: Re: Well Said Treasurer Where's Money Coming From
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 6th, 2025 at 9:19am

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 12:16pm:
At least the LNP has said it will cut the fat out of the Public Service. Albo has not said where his spending spree funding is coming from.  ;)


Where else? More debt. It's not like it's his personal money or that he has to personally repay it. He couldn't care less because he gets a nice big fat pension regardless of how he does his job.

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