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Title: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:27pm

We're broke why are we borrowing money that has to be repaid whith interest to give it away?

What would you cut?
https://www.dfat.gov.au/about-us/corporate/portfolio-budget-statements/australias-official-development-assistance-budget-summary-2023-24?fbclid=IwY2xjawINNCVleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHXp2JDBCmXk_ebhbXcK-qPKTYmNBts9HhQDBfgjly5tz_eIB4tsxmkBl-g_aem_9CuPrVZUH6CvEjPlpn2KAg

Taliban $50 million a year

Climate Change and Environment $142 million a year

Gender Equality, Disability and Social Inclusion (including LGBTQIA+) $101 million a year

Tuvalu $11.4 million a year

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Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Bobby. on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:36pm

Don't worry -

Dutton's new DOGE Dept. will fix it.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:53pm

And so we see the triumph of the PRC in the Pacific. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:57pm

Quote:

Former president of Kenya mocks countries who are upset Trump that said he won’t give blank checks anymore to foreign governments.

“Why are you crying? It’s not your government! He has no reason to give you anything. You don’t pay taxes in America.”

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1884641033658433783

He said- This is a wake up call to start helping ourselves

Cutting foreign aid will help them towards becoming self sufficient

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by tickleandrose on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 1:52pm

Okay, lets do a quick and simple lesson on international politics.

After Taliban overtook Afghanistan from US, it had become the dominant power. However, despite this, there are still factions within the government itself. There are factions who favour Western Influence - they recall the time when they worked together in the 1970s to counter Russian influence. And there are factions who mistrust the West and Russia, and favour better ties with China.

The foreign money going to Afghanistan is to foster influence. Like it or not, Afghanistan is still a very important piece of puzzle in that part of Asia.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Bobby. on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 4:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

And so we see the triumph of the PRC in the Pacific. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

You've been saying for years that the Chinese would never invade us
so what's the problem?

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 4:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

And so we see the triumph of the PRC in the Pacific. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

You've been saying for years that the Chinese would never invade us
so what's the problem?

There is a world of difference between being threatened with a military invasion and witnessing the PRC supplant our influence with their own, Bobby. Just because you can't tell the difference doesn't mean it is not a possibility. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Bobby. on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 4:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 4:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

And so we see the triumph of the PRC in the Pacific. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

You've been saying for years that the Chinese would never invade us
so what's the problem?

Dear Brian,
with the USA now, not defending their allies we need to start kissing Chinese bums.
You can go first.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by John Smith on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 4:52pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:27pm:

We're broke why are we borrowing money that has to be repaid whith interest to give it away?

What would you cut?
https://www.dfat.gov.au/about-us/corporate/portfolio-budget-statements/australia...

there's a simpleton in action
::)

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 5:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 4:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 4:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

And so we see the triumph of the PRC in the Pacific. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

You've been saying for years that the Chinese would never invade us
so what's the problem?

Dear Brian,
with the USA now, not defending their allies we need to start kissing Chinese bums.
You can go first.

Keep being an apologist for Trump/Musk, Bobby. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 7:06pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:27pm:

Climate Change and Environment $142 million a year

You want to cut money from the environment?

You do realise that you live in the environment, yeah?

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 7:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 5:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 4:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 4:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

And so we see the triumph of the PRC in the Pacific. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

You've been saying for years that the Chinese would never invade us
so what's the problem?

Dear Brian,
with the USA now, not defending their allies we need to start kissing Chinese bums.
You can go first.

Keep being an apologist for Trump/Musk, Bobby. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Is it possible to be an 'apologist' for a duly elected American administration?
Do you NEED to apologise for the American people's choice?

What is your take on the Chinese government and the Chinese people? Arse kissing - and what else?

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 7:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 7:06pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:27pm:

Climate Change and Environment $142 million a year

You want to cut money from the environment?

You do realise that you live in the environment, yeah?

Oh? The 'environment needs your money, turd? Why not toss some money out the window? For the 'environment'.

You lefty retarded faggotry is limitless. There is simply no boundary for your idiocy, agitation, mindless baying. Impervious zombies.

The Left used to have reason. With morons like you taking over, the Left is a toxic wasteland of moronic unreason.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 7:49pm

Lets bugger the environment then, Soren, hey? Who cares if the atmosphere heats up a few degrees, who cares? Who cares about the little penguins? The polar bears? The kangaroos, the wombats, the koalas, the emus? They are just dumb animals. Who cares about the beaches, hey? The rainforests, the tundra? Obviously not you. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Bobby. on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 8:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 5:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 4:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 4:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

And so we see the triumph of the PRC in the Pacific. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

You've been saying for years that the Chinese would never invade us
so what's the problem?

Dear Brian,
with the USA now, not defending their allies we need to start kissing Chinese bums.
You can go first.

Keep being an apologist for Trump/Musk, Bobby. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

At least with Trump we now know where we stand. :-[

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 8:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 7:49pm:

So you give money - to ....???

And that giving of money will protect the little penguins and emus and koalas.

Just give out money and the Earth will heal. Money, the universal healer.

I wonder sometimes - have you been a moron from a small child or did something turn you later in life?

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 9:25pm

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 10:31pm

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 1:52pm:

The Islamic emirate of Afghanistan follows Islamic law.

The Taliban promised they would respect womens rights they don't allow women to speak in public or go to school.

It's a fundamental islamic shithole they don't want western influence.

China considers Islam to be a mental illness they turn mosques into public toilets perhaps the Chinese are the best to deal with them since nobody calls the Chinese Islamophobes.

Quote:

Buddhas of Bamiyan

The Buddhas of Bamiyan (Pashto: د باميانو بودايي پژۍ, Dari: تندیس‌های بودا در بامیان) were two possibly 6th-century[3] monumental Buddhist statues in the Bamiyan Valley of Afghanistan. Located 130 kilometres (81 mi) to the northwest of Kabul, at an elevation of 2,500 metres (8,200 ft), carbon dating of the structural components of the Buddhas has determined that the smaller 38 m (125 ft) "Eastern Buddha" was built around 570 CE, and the larger 55 m (180 ft) "Western Buddha" was built around 618 CE, which would date both to the time when the Hephthalites ruled the region.

However, in March 2001, both statues were destroyed by the Taliban following an order given on February 26, 2001, by Taliban leader Mullah Muhammad Omar, to destroy all the statues in Afghanistan "so that no one can worship or respect them in the future".

Since the 2nd century CE, Bamiyan had been a Buddhist religious site on the Silk Road under the Kushans, remaining so until the Islamic conquests of 770 CE

Decision to destroy
On 1 March 2001, the Taliban announced that all statues depicting humans in Afghanistan would be destroyed. Work to destroy the Buddhas began the next day, on 2 March, and continued for several weeks

On 6 March 2001, British newspaper The Times quoted Omar as stating "Muslims should be proud of smashing idols. It has given praise to Allah that we have destroyed them.

"We are destroying the statues in accordance with Islamic law and it is purely a religious issue." A statement issued by the ministry of religious affairs of the Taliban regime justified the destruction as being in accordance with Islamic law.[55]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhas_of_Bamiyan

Afghanistan was a Buddhist country today it's an Islamic shithole.
What was it like 100 years ago?

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Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 10:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 7:06pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:27pm:

Climate Change and Environment $142 million a year

You want to cut money from the environment?

You do realise that you live in the environment, yeah?

That $142 million isn't being spent in Australia it's for other countries. It's money we borrow that has to be repaid with interest.

Why are we giving money to Yemen for food security when they're spending money on military equipment and missiles to attack commercial shipping?

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 9:36am

BREAKING: Secretary of State Marco Rubio is expected to PERMANENTLY CUT OFF U.S. aid to Somalia after the country demolished a warehouse holding 76 TONS of American food, per Daily Wire.

GOOD. Cut off the gravy train.

Rubio said it perfectly. Foreign aid is NOT charity. It is U.S. TAXPAYER MONEY and it must serve the AMERICAN national interest.

Caring about human rights and humanitarian need does not mean writing blank checks to governments that disrespect American generosity and destroy aid meant for starving people.

America comes first. Every dollar must advance OUR foreign policy, OUR security, and OUR interests.

No more endless aid. No more waste. No more disrespect.

This is leadership. 🇺🇸
https://x.com/BarronTNews_/status/2012646906921414925

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 10:31am

Sounds like selfishness to me, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 11:06am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 10:31am:

Sounds like selfishness to me, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Private citizens like you are still free to send as much money to the third world as they like. How much are you sending to Muslims overseas?

BUT

Foreign aid is NOT charity. It is U.S. TAXPAYER MONEY and it must serve the AMERICAN national interest.

Caring about human rights and humanitarian need does not mean writing blank checks to governments that disrespect American generosity and destroy aid meant for starving people.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 11:16am

Sounds like selfishness to me, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by tallowood on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 11:47am

Gold isn't cheap these days.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Daves2017 on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 1:26pm

Until no child in Australia isn’t living in poverty I would cease all overseas Aid!

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Dnarever on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 5:54pm

Who would listen to a dope like Kelly about global warming?

Or anything else ?

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Dnarever on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 5:58pm

tallowood wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 11:47am:

Gold isn't cheap these days.

Remember when Peter Costello gave away all our gold at the bottom of the market ?

That could contest the award for the single worst decision ever made by an Australian treasurer, Well except for Howard - his stagflation was right up there.

Remember that when inflation was high under Howard as treasurer he believed that by increasing unemployment and creating a huge pool of unemployed people he could force wage inflation down. It not only spectacularly didn't work but managed to turn an inflation problem into stag flation. We had both inflation spiraling out of control and at the same time had unemployment spiraling out of control and the unemployment part wasn't an accident it had been deliberately triggered. Keatings accord finally brought it under control.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 6:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 11:16am:

Sounds like selfishness to me, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Oh?? You had a new idea?

Nah...

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Gordon on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 7:03pm

$11m for Tuvalu is chicken feed when compared to the rest.

The rest can go.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:05pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 1:26pm:

Until no child in Australia isn’t living in poverty I would cease all overseas Aid!

Interesting.

Let's say you got your wish.

Would that result in:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by freediver on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:05pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 1:26pm:

Until no child in Australia isn’t living in poverty I would cease all overseas Aid!

Interesting.

Let's say you got your wish.

Would that result in:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

It's impossible to achieve. They define poverty in purely relative terms. The only way to escape it is if we are all starving to death equally under communism. Otherwise, people are living in poverty by virtue of not being as rich as everyone else.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:05pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 1:26pm:

Until no child in Australia isn’t living in poverty I would cease all overseas Aid!

Interesting.

Let's say you got your wish.

Would that result in:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

Unless they are from Indonesia or PNG or NZ- our immedite neighbours - no 'asylum seekers' should come to Australia.

There are safe haven countries next to every shithole country from which people might be fleeing. They can claim asylum there.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Dnarever on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 9:09pm

You do all know that this is a story about Kelly getting it wrong in 2018 ?

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Dnarever on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 9:21pm

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:05pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 1:26pm:

Until no child in Australia isn’t living in poverty I would cease all overseas Aid!

Interesting.

Let's say you got your wish.

Would that result in:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

Luckily Frank - you don't get to make up the UN rules on asylum.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 9:47pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 9:21pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:05pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 1:26pm:

Until no child in Australia isn’t living in poverty I would cease all overseas Aid!

Interesting.

Let's say you got your wish.

Would that result in:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

Luckily Frank - you don't get to make up the UN rules on asylum.

The absolutely undemocratic UN should not make up rules for democracies like Australia.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Daves2017 on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 9:54pm

I believe that “ controlled “ immigration is very important to Australia future!

The open door policy of Albo a disaster!

Set a substantial number for the year and screen them rigorously.

And just to keep us actually humane instead of taking in only those that can benefit our country/ economy we should set a quota of people from refugees camps .

Not just the people from today’s fashion war.

There are many hundreds of thousands of decent people who have been living in refugee camps for decades.

I don’t understand how or why you should jump the queue just because you are on the losing end of the most recent war?

Labor voters?

Cut all foreign aid till no child in Australia is living in poverty.

Care for our own first.

Once we do that we should immediately focus on what our close neighbours need and listen and provide that support.

Definitely indo is on that list and PNG but also our pacific neighbours and NZ is big and ugly enough to look after itself but we should always be ready to support them if they ask.

Actually put them top of the list.

This isn’t the topic.

What I’m saying until Australia has it’s own country in order we simply shouldn’t be spending our $$$
On aid overseas.

Breaks my heart to see people suffering as well.

Like the tent city in the park at the end of my street!

If Australia can’t take care of its own this overseas aid is just a political stunt sh,,I show

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Bobby. on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 10:10pm

The Federal Govt. is 1 $trillion in debt -

we can't afford to give money away -
pay off our debts first.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 10:20pm

You lot do realise that the last time we tried this trick was under Howard. You do know what happened. The PRC walked into all the various countries around us and supplanted our influence and good will. We were left looking like wallies standing at the altar with no bride beside us. It took the election of Albanese and Wong to undo all the damage Howard had done. Yes, it costs money but you get friends when you give money to pleading people. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 10:42pm

U
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 10:20pm:

Thy ard welcome to Sudan, Somalia, and the other shiteholes.

As Rubio said, foreign aid by government must serve the interest of the donor country. It is colonialism by other means - open colonialism ended too soon, evidently. The shitdhole people can't manage on their own.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Bobby. on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:49am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 10:20pm:

We don't want bludger friends.

What don't you understand by - "we have no spare money"

we can't afford to give money away -
pay off our debts first.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 6:49am

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:05pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 1:26pm:

Until no child in Australia isn’t living in poverty I would cease all overseas Aid!

Interesting.

Let's say you got your wish.

Would that result in:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

They can seek asylum wherever they like.

So, if all foreign aid is stopped, would that result in fewer asylum seekers or more asylum seekers?

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Dnarever on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 11:34am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 6:49am:

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:05pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 1:26pm:

Until no child in Australia isn’t living in poverty I would cease all overseas Aid!

Interesting.

Let's say you got your wish.

Would that result in:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

They can seek asylum wherever they like.

So, if all foreign aid is stopped, would that result in fewer asylum seekers or more asylum seekers?

You would expect that if poor countries didn't get support from more wealthy countries the result would be that many additional people would be displaced. This outcome would be almost gauranteed. Probably ends up costing us more than the current support.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 11:50am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 11:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 6:49am:

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:05pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 1:26pm:

Until no child in Australia isn’t living in poverty I would cease all overseas Aid!

Interesting.

Let's say you got your wish.

Would that result in:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

They can seek asylum wherever they like.

So, if all foreign aid is stopped, would that result in fewer asylum seekers or more asylum seekers?

we are not responsible for what the people in poor countries are doing to each other any more than we are responsible for what the Swiss, Danes, Italians or Finns do.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 11:53am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 11:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 6:49am:

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:05pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 1:26pm:

Until no child in Australia isn’t living in poverty I would cease all overseas Aid!

Interesting.

Let's say you got your wish.

Would that result in:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

They can seek asylum wherever they like.

So, if all foreign aid is stopped, would that result in fewer asylum seekers or more asylum seekers?

You would expect that if poor countries didn't get support from more wealthy countries the result would be that many additional people would be displaced. This outcome would be almost guaranteed. Probably ends up costing us more than the current support.

Exactly.

It's obvious, yet Frank doesn't understand it.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 1:41pm

So it is our responsibility to save third orlders from themselves. They are beasts to each other at home so we must send them money to carry on or bring them here so the can be beasts to us - see Bondi Beach.

Nuts to that.

Let them sort themselves. We did not make them the way they are. They have been independent and self-governing for decades. Time to take responsibility for themselves.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 1:57pm

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 1:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 11:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 6:49am:

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:05pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 1:26pm:

Until no child in Australia isn’t living in poverty I would cease all overseas Aid!

Interesting.

Let's say you got your wish.

Would that result in:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

They can seek asylum wherever they like.

So, if all foreign aid is stopped, would that result in fewer asylum seekers or more asylum seekers?

Well, don't complain when we're "swamped" with more asylum seekers.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by freediver on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 2:25pm

Are you saying we are effectively being held to ransom by them Greg?

From what I can tell, the biggest determining factor for how many asylum seekers we get is whether we allow people smugglers to do their thing.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 2:31pm

In a grandly optimistic aside in The Origins, Fukuyama assures us that “there are a number of different routes for ‘getting to Denmark,’” by which he means that each region in the world can achieve liberal democracy in its own way. But if his book proves anything, it is closer to the opposite. Far from making liberal democracy appear more imitable, the contingencies he untangles, often with great finesse, illustrate just how difficult England’s or Denmark’s experience is to replicate. Fukuyama himself seems to be confused about this. “Any developing country is today free to adopt whatever development model it wishes,” he writes, “regardless of its indigenous traditions or culture.” But a few pages later he tells us, “Modern institutions cannot simply be transferred to other societies without reference to existing rules and the political forces supporting them.”

It's their culture and their people that turn countries into shiteholes, not the lack of Western aid.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 3:01pm

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 2:31pm:

Okay.

So, if we cut off all foreign aid, would we get:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Dnarever on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 4:24pm

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 1:41pm:

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see Bondi Beach.

Nuts to that.

Of The Bondi murderers one was born here and the other immigrated legally from India ? If this is what you are refering to it makes no sence there is no connection to refugees at all.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by freediver on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 4:43pm

The children of Muslim immigrants are actually more prone to Islamic extremism, not less. Perhaps because they have not witnessed the consequences of that extremism like their parents have.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Dnarever on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 4:56pm

freediver wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 4:43pm:

The children of Muslim immigrants are actually more prone to Islamic extremism, not less. Perhaps because they have not witnessed the consequences of that extremism like their parents have.

Maybe because they are in the age group where they are more easily radicalised. Not sure how it relates to foreign aid though. Forcing more of them to come here seems anti productive if it is a real problem.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by freediver on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 4:59pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 4:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 4:43pm:

The children of Muslim immigrants are actually more prone to Islamic extremism, not less. Perhaps because they have not witnessed the consequences of that extremism like their parents have.

Maybe because they are in the age group where they are more easily radicalised.

I did not mean when they are children. I meant adult offspring. Luckily they aren't strapping bomb vests to 10 years like in Gaza. Yet.

Age is not the cause of the violence. Islam is. The worst hate preachers are the old men.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:00pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 4:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 4:43pm:

The children of Muslim immigrants are actually more prone to Islamic extremism, not less. Perhaps because they have not witnessed the consequences of that extremism like their parents have.

Maybe because they are in the age group where they are more easily radicalised. Not sure how it relates to foreign aid though. Forcing more of them to come here seems anti productive.

Another proof, if any more was needed, that Islam's influence on Western societies is wholly negative. Hell, it's wholly negative on Islamic societies!!

Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.

That is why Islam must be resisted and blocked. It is a nasty conquering, oppresive ideology mascarading as spiritual religion.

That I could be prosecued for saying that in some jurisdictions is another proof that it is a nasty ideology.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 3:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 2:31pm:

Okay.

So, if we cut off all foreign aid, would we get:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

Just need a one word answer, Frank.

Fewer, or more - which is it?

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:10pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:27pm:

Pennies.

The Oz debt is c.$1 trillion.

BUT: if mainstream economists could get past our collective PTSD caused by the 'Capitalism versus Communism' Cold War, we could adopt a new financial system with the best elements of both systems, ie central planning AND self-interested private enterprise.

Meaning currency-issuing governments could fund the public sector for free (see the MMT thread), thus avoiding public debt, while managing resources to avoid inflation in the macro economy (ie public and private sectors combined).

Just a lesson in modern macro-economics.

As for foreign aid - it should be cancelled immediately.

Nations dont need charity; they need good government ,with oversight by a properly constituted international body (which doesn't exist at the moment).

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by freediver on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:16pm

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BUT: if mainstream economoists could get past our collective PTSD caused by the 'Capitalism versus Communism' Cold War,

It is hard not to look back on the recent deaths of hundreds of millions of people due to communism without feeling some kind of aversion to it. It is not an irrational fear. It is wholly rational. The only thing more dangerous than a Nazi trying to kill you is a communist trying to help you.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:31pm

freediver wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:05pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 1:26pm:

Until no child in Australia isn’t living in poverty I would cease all overseas Aid!

Interesting.

Let's say you got your wish.

Would that result in:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

It's impossible to achieve.

Not if you ban immigration - Pauline's ON is soaring in the polls because of her anti-immigration policy.

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They define poverty in purely relative terms.

You mean - "the grass looks greener over there"?

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The only way to escape it is if we are all starving to death equally under communism.

An incredibly stupid statement. A properly constituted IMF/WB could ensure properous development in all nations. ie by ensuring we are all prospering under "communism" - see my previous post above.

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Otherwise, people are living in poverty by virtue of not being as rich as everyone else.

Another incredibly stupid statement: people are not ncessarily living in poverty (as defined in each nation) if they are not as rich as Musk, nor if they are not as rich as you or me.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:39pm

freediver wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:16pm:

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BUT: if mainstream economoists could get past our collective PTSD caused by the 'Capitalism versus Communism' Cold War,

It is hard not to look back on the recent deaths of hundreds of millions of people due to communism without feeling some kind of aversion to it.

Recent?

But yes, the prospect of a nuclear war (during the Cold War) has left us all with PTSD.

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It is not an irrational fear. It is wholly rational.

Agreed. But the Soviet command economy collapsed in 1990.

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The only thing more dangerous than a Nazi trying to kill you is a communist trying to help you.

Sheer TINA ideological ignorance. See my post #55

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Dnarever on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 6:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 3:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 2:31pm:

Okay.

So, if we cut off all foreign aid, would we get:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

Just need a one word answer, Frank.

Fewer, or more - which is it?

You want a one insult answer ? Anything else is outside of Franks scope.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 6:41pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 6:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 3:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 2:31pm:

Okay.

So, if we cut off all foreign aid, would we get:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

Just need a one word answer, Frank.

Fewer, or more - which is it?

You want a one insult answer ? Anything else is outside of Franks scope.

Such a simple question, and yet he's incapable of answering.

What the hell is wrong with him?

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 7:09pm

no correlation, no causation.

no matter how vigorously you fap.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 7:12pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 6:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 3:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 2:31pm:

Okay.

So, if we cut off all foreign aid, would we get:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

Just need a one word answer, Frank.

Fewer, or more - which is it?

You want a one insult answer ? Anything else is outside of Franks scope.

Which he has now proven to us all.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by freediver on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 7:24pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:31pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 8:05pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2026 at 1:26pm:

Until no child in Australia isn’t living in poverty I would cease all overseas Aid!

Interesting.

Let's say you got your wish.

Would that result in:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

It's impossible to achieve.

Not if you ban immigration - Pauline's ON is soaring in the polls because of her anti-immigration policy.

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They define poverty in purely relative terms.

You mean - "the grass looks greener over there"?

No. I am talking about statistics. Have you figured out the difference between mean and median yet?

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 7:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 3:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 2:31pm:

Okay.

So, if we cut off all foreign aid, would we get:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

Just need a one word answer, Frank.

Fewer, or more - which is it?

Focus, despicable, unclean dishonest lying wanker:

no correlation, no causation. no matter how vigorously you fap.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 7:43pm

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 7:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 3:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 2:31pm:

Okay.

So, if we cut off all foreign aid, would we get:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

Just need a one word answer, Frank.

Fewer, or more - which is it?

Focus, despicable, unclean dishonest lying wanker:

no correlation, no causation. no matter how vigorously you fap.

Your ignorance has been noted, and your white supremacist flag has been accepted.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by freediver on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 7:43pm

Greg is not asking you whether it would cause a change. He is asking you what change it would cause. He is very cunning like that.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 7:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 7:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 7:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 3:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 2:31pm:

Okay.

So, if we cut off all foreign aid, would we get:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

Just need a one word answer, Frank.

Fewer, or more - which is it?

Focus, despicable, unclean dishonest lying wanker:

no correlation, no causation. no matter how vigorously you fap.

Your ignorance has been noted, and your white supremacist flag has been accepted.

;D ;D ;D

You are out of your depth, unclean, sweaty wanker, when you are trying to be clever. It's laughable.

You are now accepting white suprmacist flags? What are those like, moron? Whiter than white? Or what?

You are a mental pigmy, an idiot with a deformed, evil moral drive. With every utterance you self-reveal your evil and your stuidity.

Bbwiyawnesque. Tsk, tsk, ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Leroy on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 9:09pm

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 7:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 7:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 7:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 3:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 2:31pm:

Okay.

So, if we cut off all foreign aid, would we get:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

Just need a one word answer, Frank.

Fewer, or more - which is it?

Focus, despicable, unclean dishonest lying wanker:

no correlation, no causation. no matter how vigorously you fap.

Your ignorance has been noted, and your white supremacist flag has been accepted.

Frank we can start a gofundme page to buy you a new white supremacist flag. but only Trump approved bitcoin.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 10:28pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 9:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 7:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 7:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 7:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 5:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 3:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 2:31pm:

Okay.

So, if we cut off all foreign aid, would we get:

a) fewer asylum seekers coming to Australia, or

b) more asylum seekers coming to Australia?

Just need a one word answer, Frank.

Fewer, or more - which is it?

Focus, despicable, unclean dishonest lying wanker:

no correlation, no causation. no matter how vigorously you fap.

Your ignorance has been noted, and your white supremacist flag has been accepted.

Frank we can start a gofundme page to buy you a new white supremacist flag. but only Trump approved bitcoin.

Do.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 11:27pm

I would cut all foreign aid with exception for disaster relief.

Labor has us heading towards a $Trillion in debt we can't afford to borrow money to give it away.

Quote:

The former President of Kenya said it's time for Kenya to pull their finger out of their asses and learn how to look after themselves

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Jan 20^th, 2026 at 11:42pm

Well - pretty much all. Gaza for a start - they built their own tombs... you cannot help people like that who insist on pushing away the flotation devices during a flood ... Yemen and Somalia you cannot save from themselves...

I'd say don't compete with China in the PI - the locals will lap it up and then take it all for free!! Let the CCP develop the region for us....

Nuginee is an old mate - they need to remain strong to keep Indo expansionism and Islam at bay...

I'd say we should be repairing our own lifeboats first ....plenty of work there to control the Aboriginal Freebie Movement (AFM), the Musso Grab Movement (MGM), the Whinging Ethnic Trifecta (WET), the Trans Women Attention Try-on (TWAT), the Quota Unlimited Expectation Sheila Team (QUEST), the ARF - Albo's Ridiculous Favourites (a.k.a. Toto - arf arf), and all the rest...

All work and no play these days...

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 9:25am

Indonesia has no expansionist aims. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 9:45am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 9:25am:

Indonesia has no expansionist aims. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

It did - East Timor.

It does - Papua.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 9:49am

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 9:45am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 9:25am:

Indonesia has no expansionist aims. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

It did - East Timor.

It does - Papua.

Both under the old regime, a regime that hasn't run Indonesia for over 30 years, Soren. Stop your Cold War thinking, you silly White Supremacist. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 11:30am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 9:49am:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 9:45am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 9:25am:

Indonesia has no expansionist aims. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

It did - East Timor.

It does - Papua.

Both under the old regime, a regime that hasn't run Indonesia for over 30 years, Soren. Stop your Cold War thinking, you silly White Supremacist. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

You are talking ignorant crap as always.

The Republic of West Papua has been a member state of the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization (UNPO) since the organization's founding in 1991

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 11:37am

We surrendered our rights to protest the Indonesian take over of West Papua in 1961 when the UN took over the administration from the Dutch colonial masters. When the US refused to back us against Indonesia. It is the reason why we became involved in the South Vietnam conflict, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by freediver on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 12:03pm

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We surrendered our rights to protest the Indonesian

No we didn't. More spineless apologetics. You desperately seek out any excuse for why you are not allowed to criticise Muslim countries.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 12:24pm

freediver wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 12:03pm:

Quote:

We surrendered our rights to protest the Indonesian

No we didn't. More spineless apologetics. You desperately seek out any excuse for why you are not allowed to criticise Muslim countries.

OH, you can criticise them to your heart's content but you need to understand what actually happened and why. The Indonesians had a bee in their bonnet about West Papua being Dutch, despite it never having been a part of the Netherlands East Indies colony. Suharto demanded that it be ceded to him, rather in the manner Trump is demanding Greenland. He staged an invasion attempt. The Dutch repelled his forces. The Dutch sent an aircraft carrier and some ships to defend it but balked at the cost of stationing them so far from home. Canberra made some belligerent noises but lacked the forces. Washington was more interested in assuring freedom of navigation for it's SLBM carrying submarines from Guam and refused our request for support. Canberra was forced to back down and agreed to the Dutch signing over the administration to the UN. The UN decided to sign the administration over to Indonesia who held a mock referendum amongst the Papuans. Canberra, alarmed at the US response began taking a greater interest in world events and got involved in South Vietnam and forced the American commitment. We became involved in our longest military commitment before Afghanistan. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by freediver on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 12:29pm

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OH, you can criticise them to your heart's content

But we have no right to protest?

Are you allowed to criticise Muslims and Muslim countries Brian?

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 12:31pm

freediver wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 12:29pm:

Quote:

OH, you can criticise them to your heart's content

But we have no right to protest?

You can protest all you want, Australia surrendered that right in 1961. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by freediver on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 12:40pm

Are you allowed to criticise Muslims and Muslim countries Brian?

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by Frank on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 1:07pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 12:31pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 12:29pm:

Quote:

OH, you can criticise them to your heart's content

But we have no right to protest?

You can protest all you want, Australia surrendered that right in 1961. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

When did YOU surrender your right to criticise Islam?
And what makes you think that your spineless surrender and submission to Islam means that everyone else should likewise surrender and submit to Islam?

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 1:34pm

freediver wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 12:40pm:

Are you allowed to criticise Muslims and Muslim countries Brian?

In Australia?

Of course he is, so am I.

Just as I can point to the CAUSE of Islamic terrorism ie the ongoing occupation and oppression of Palestinians in Palestinian land.

But in Muslim lands?

Why would I want to criticize Islam in Muslim lands? That's a job for the UN/international community.

But I see you can't manage the nexus between foreign aid and dysfunctional global economics.

Given your deplorable ignorant 'TINA' mainstream Neoclassical-economics dogma.

Title: Re: What Foreign aid would you cut?
Post by freediver on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 3:35pm

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Of course he is, so am I.

Not according to Brian. You are yet to experience the extent of Brian's spineless apologetics.