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Title: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Bobby. on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:03pm
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Trump directs Guantanamo Bay to be prepared to host up to 30,000 migrants Haley Britzky By Michael Williams and Haley Britzky, CNN 3 minute read Updated 5:36 PM EST, Wed January 29, 2025' President Donald Trump on Wednesday signed a memorandum directing the federal government to prepare the US Naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to house tens of thousands of migrants. The memorandum calls for the Defense and Homeland Security Departments to provide additional detention space at Guantanamo for “high-priority criminal aliens unlawfully present in the United States.” “Most people don’t even know about it. We have 30,000 beds in Guantanamo to detain the worst criminal illegal aliens threatening the American people. This will double our capacity immediately,” Trump said from the White House earlier in the day. Trump’s remarks came just before he signed the Laken Riley Act, the first major legislative win of his second term, which requires the detention of undocumented migrants charged with certain crimes. Congress passed it earlier this month with Democratic support. “Today’s signings bring us one step closer to eradicating the scourge of migrant crime in our communities once and for all,” Trump said. Trump’s top immigration advisers later told CNN that management of a Guantanamo Bay detention facility for migrants would be overseen by Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. “We’re just going to expand upon existing migrant centers,” border czar Tom Homan said, adding the facility would be overseen by “our migrant center run out of Miami.” Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said the base could be reserved to detain what she described as “the worst of the worst.” “There might be some resources that could be established for the worst of the worst at Guantanamo Bay, and that’s something that he is evaluating along with our team at the Department of Homeland Security,” Noem said on “CNN News Central” on Wednesday. While the base is well-known for its detention camp where the United States holds terrorism suspects, Guantanamo Bay also hosts a separate migrant-processing center. The Biden administration had discussed using that center to process Haitian migrants who were fleeing worsening conditions in their country last year. The US military also prepared the site to host migrants fleeing the catastrophic 2010 earthquake in Haiti. But a US official told CNN that the facilities at Guantanamo Bay are far from prepared to house up to 30,000 migrants. “There’s no way there’s 30,000 beds anymore,” the US official said, adding that the capacity existed in the 1990s but no longer. And in order to care for that number of people, the official said, the US would have to bring “a lot of military staff” in. “If they sent a lot of migrants (to Guantanamo Bay), they would need a lot more staff to manage them,” the official added. “They couldn’t do it with what they’ve got now, no way.” The Cuban government criticized Trump’s plans to house tens of thousands of migrants. ....... |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Bobby. on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:04pm Wow - Gitmo would be like a Nazi concentration camp. :o The poor buggers who end up there! Will they get a free shower? |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:09pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:04pm:
Indeed. |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Leroy on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:11pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:04pm:
Only if they pledge allegiance to Trump. |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Bobby. on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:13pm Leroy wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:11pm:
Nazi shower blocks had a dual purpose. |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:29pm
How many more similarities to the rise of a certain aspiring German artist of the early 20th century do we need before we start worrying about history repeating itself?
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Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Bobby. on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:31pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:29pm:
It's a bit of a worry isn't it? Did Trump study Nazi history? |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Bobby. on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:37pm
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/dachau
The first one: Establishment of the Dachau Camp The Dachau concentration camp was established in March 1933. It was the first regular concentration camp established by the National Socialist (Nazi) government. Heinrich Himmler, as police president of Munich, officially described the camp as "the first concentration camp for political prisoners." It was located on the grounds of an abandoned munitions factory near the northeastern part of the town of Dachau, about 10 miles northwest of Munich in southern Germany. On March 22, 1933, the first prisoner transports arrived at the camp. Prisoners in the Early Years of the Camp During the first year, the camp had a capacity of 5,000 prisoners. Initially the internees were primarily German Communists, Social Democrats, trade unionists, and other political opponents of the Nazi regime. Over time, other groups were also interned at Dachau, such as Jehovah's Witnesses, Roma (Gypsies), gay men, as well as "asocials" and repeat criminal offenders. During the early years relatively few Jews were interned in Dachau and then usually because they belonged to one of the above groups or had completed prison sentences after being convicted for violating the Nuremberg Laws of 1935. Number of Prisoners The number of prisoners incarcerated in Dachau between 1933 and 1945 exceeded 200,000. It is difficult to estimate the number of prisoners who died at Dachau. The thousands brought to the camp for execution were not registered before their deaths. Furthermore, the number of deaths that occurred during evacuation have not been assessed. Scholars believe that at least 40,000 prisoners died at Dachau. |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:40pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:31pm:
"Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, "My New Order," which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed." |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Bobby. on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:43pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:40pm:
Is that like your 3 hard cover books from Karl Marx that you keep by your bedside reading lamp? |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by aquascoot on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:49pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:31pm:
if he did bobby, he would have found hitler became very popular because germany had high inflation and no patriotism. in a way hitler was the result of weak socialist government. we can probably lay the blame for hitler getting power at the feet of weak socialists. if skippy and gweggy want to find someone to blame for trump, they need look no further then the american democrat party and its weak leadership and socialist ideology. dont blame trump when he was the product of the leftie intellectuals rediculous policies :'( :'( :'( |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Bobby. on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:51pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:49pm:
History does repeat. |
Title: Re: Trump prepares for another failure Post by John Smith on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:59pm
:D
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Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 30th, 2025 at 3:00pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:49pm:
Couldn't agree more. They're pathetic. It's why I don't have They knew a dictator was about to take over, and they just sat back and said "She'll be right. He won't get in". However, Trump is to blame for the raping he's done and all the other crimes he's committed. |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Bobby. on Jan 30th, 2025 at 3:04pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 3:00pm:
Trump could send people on social media who made false claims about him to Gitmo. |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 30th, 2025 at 3:10pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 3:04pm:
What false claims have been made about him though? Did somebody say he was a good father or something? |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 30th, 2025 at 4:18pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 3:00pm:
Yep. They need to start playing in the mud with the Republicans if they'll ever have a chance of regaining office. The days of playing by the rules and being honourable are behind us. It's win at all costs, even if you have to lie, cheat and steal to get there. |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 30th, 2025 at 4:19pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 3:10pm:
We're in Trump America. False = anything that doesn't paint him in a positive light. More history repeating if that ever happens. |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by lee on Jan 30th, 2025 at 4:32pm
Now if these are illegal aliens, they have never revoked citizenship of their native country. Having never revoked, they remain free to return of their own volition. ::)
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Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Bobby. on Jan 30th, 2025 at 5:49pm
Maybe Trump is using Gitmo as a stick against the illegal immigrants?
He wants them to be so fearful of going to a hell hole at Gitmo that they will return to their countries before the authorities can get them? |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Karnal on Jan 30th, 2025 at 5:53pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:04pm:
What's the White Defence League's policy on that one, Bobi? Should they hand over any previous items prior to decontamination? |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Bobby. on Jan 30th, 2025 at 5:54pm Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 5:53pm:
Do any of them have gold in their teeth? |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:01pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 5:49pm:
Even the Slovenians? |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Karnal on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:02pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:49pm:
Socialists weren't in power in 1933, dear. The Nazis had a minority in the Reichstag. Hindenburg declared Hitler DL after the Nazis burned down the Reichstag and blamed the leftards. Apart from the latter, I'm not seeing too many similarities. You? |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Karnal on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:06pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 5:54pm:
I believe so, Bobi. What"s the White Protection League's policy on extracting their fillings to fund the war effort? |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Bobby. on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:06pm Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:02pm:
I can see similarities: Die partei ist Hitler. Hitler aber ist Deutschland wie Deutschland Hitler ist. Hitler sieg heil. |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Bobby. on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:07pm Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:06pm:
They are advertising for gold extraction workers. You'll apply - no? |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Karnal on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:10pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:06pm:
I see. So you've finally come out as a card-carrying Nazi, eh? What finally convinced you, Bobi? Not Elon's naughty old salute, was it? Meister says it was a mistake. Elon has autism, you see. He has an obsession with Nazi tropes, he can't be held responsible. You? |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Bobby. on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:12pm Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:10pm:
No - I merely see some similarities - you? |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Dnarever on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:38pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 2:40pm:
Trumps defence was something like that he can't or doesn't read. |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Dnarever on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:40pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:12pm:
Bobby want to start one of you Lists for fascists and Nazi's ? We do seem to have a fair few of them. |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Bobby. on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:51pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:40pm:
No - you can - I don't see any here - do you? |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Karnal on Jan 30th, 2025 at 7:27pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:12pm:
Ah, but you have. What's the White Protection League? Up for it? |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Bobby. on Jan 30th, 2025 at 7:33pm Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 7:27pm:
I'm not sure but it seems to view White people as an endangered species at risk of extinction if not give special protection status by the UN. |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Karnal on Jan 30th, 2025 at 10:56pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 7:33pm:
I see. How many members are there, Bobi? We know of at least two. Who's the other one? |
Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Marla on Jan 31st, 2025 at 3:03am
So much for ol orange F A T T Y saving Americas tax dollars. Oh that's right, he is - to his butt buddy billionaires
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Title: Re: Trump prepares Gitmo for 30,000 migrants Post by Bobby. on Jan 31st, 2025 at 7:23am Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 10:56pm:
Dunno - join up and ask there. |
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