Well the young medical student recently rescued after two weeks lost in the Snowy mountains certainly has a great story to tell/ sell?

None of it is believable. In fact I believe he actually hid from his rescuer’s.

It’s needs a complete police investigation and if his story is untrue he needs to be charged.
He might also consider a payment plan for the millions of dollars his wasted!

The media outlets currently circling him to cut a deal might want to take a step back, or be associated with “ fake” news.

What makes you think it was fake?

The condition he was “ found “ in.
The reports he double back on his trial and rather than heading towards people headed towards the high land.
The reports that his hut was searched several times including by helicopters equipped with heat seeking sensors.
Somewhere on that mountain is a well concealed hole hiding everything he needed to survive as will as avoid “ rescue “.

Of course if I’m wrong we can expect he will donate every cent to the recuse parties he “ earns “ from his “ story “.

Wouldn’t everyone?

“If” it’s “ true “.

The police need to ask some questions and investigate.

Follow the dna as they say.

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 11:25am:

Well the young medical student recently rescued after two weeks lost in the Snowy mountains certainly has a great story to tell/ sell? None of it is believable. In fact I believe he actually hid from his rescuer’s. It’s needs a complete police investigation and if his story is untrue he needs to be charged. He might also consider a payment plan for the millions of dollars his wasted! The media outlets currently circling him to cut a deal might want to take a step back, or be associated with “ fake” news.

the only problem would be the investigation would uncover loopholes and the Med student will probably get compensation because some unidentified volunteer was overheard saying "Asian". So you now add the cost of the investigation and compensation and legal fees. 7mil should cover it with a 2mil contingency.

Leroy, I’m the old jaded pessimistic around here.

It’s just beyond possible given the search that he was undetected.

They don’t walk around and scream his name into bushes anymore.

His actively avoided being found and had a hidden stash of both food and clothing, most likely camouflage clothing.

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 11:54am:

The condition he was “ found “ in. The reports he double back on his trial and rather than heading towards people headed towards the high land. The reports that his hut was searched several times including by helicopters equipped with heat seeking sensors. Somewhere on that mountain is a well concealed hole hiding everything he needed to survive as will as avoid “ rescue “. Of course if I’m wrong we can expect he will donate every cent to the recuse parties he “ earns “ from his “ story “. Wouldn’t everyone? “If” it’s “ true “. The police need to ask some questions and investigate. Follow the dna as they say.

I thought it might be that Hadi Nazari is likely of the Afghan Hazaran ethnicity - a people from the cold and mountainous Hazarajat in central Afghanistan genetically capable of enduring low temperature and low oxygen extremes - a persecuted ethnic group who know something about survival in the mountains.

Well - all of us 'racists' here breathed a sigh of relief that he was found - but it does seem suspicious.  It's like he fairly arrowed out there to make a name for himself.... at least it wasn't 'kidnapped by white supremacist Neo-Nazis for stumbling across their training ground in the remote Snowies' ....

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 12:46pm:

Well - all of us 'racists' here breathed a sigh of relief that he was found - but it does seem suspicious.  It's like he fairly arrowed out there to make a name for himself.... at least it wasn't 'kidnapped by white supremacist Neo-Nazis for stumbling across their training ground in the remote Snowies' ....

Recognising unique ethno-capacity is not 'racism'.

If you want to see that in neon, visit Lhasa in Tibet.

You'll notice that, while ethnic Tibetans walk around unaided, all non-Tibetan tourists require a ready supply of oxygen - provided everywhere in shops and hotels in the form of fly-spray-sized canisters.

As a tourist, you will also be sternly discouraged from using analgesics to relieve the strange headaches you feel when you start walking through the streets - they are the first warning that you are suffering from hypoxia - something locals never have to worry about due to their unique genetic capacity to endure in a cold, low-oxygen environment.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 12:41pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 11:54am: The condition he was “ found “ in. The reports he double back on his trial and rather than heading towards people headed towards the high land. The reports that his hut was searched several times including by helicopters equipped with heat seeking sensors. Somewhere on that mountain is a well concealed hole hiding everything he needed to survive as will as avoid “ rescue “. Of course if I’m wrong we can expect he will donate every cent to the recuse parties he “ earns “ from his “ story “. Wouldn’t everyone? “If” it’s “ true “. The police need to ask some questions and investigate. Follow the dna as they say. I thought it might be that Hadi Nazari is likely of the Afghan Hazaran ethnicity - a people from the cold and mountainous Hazarajat in central Afghanistan genetically capable of enduring low temperature and low oxygen extremes - a persecuted ethnic group who know something about survival in the mountains.

It’s reported he was born and live in Melbourne.
Are you suggesting his genetics saved him?

It’s arguably more likely life living in Victoria has enabled him skills to be isolated for long periods of time post covid lockdown?

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 1:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 12:41pm: Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 11:54am: The condition he was “ found “ in. The reports he double back on his trial and rather than heading towards people headed towards the high land. The reports that his hut was searched several times including by helicopters equipped with heat seeking sensors. Somewhere on that mountain is a well concealed hole hiding everything he needed to survive as will as avoid “ rescue “. Of course if I’m wrong we can expect he will donate every cent to the recuse parties he “ earns “ from his “ story “. Wouldn’t everyone? “If” it’s “ true “. The police need to ask some questions and investigate. Follow the dna as they say. I thought it might be that Hadi Nazari is likely of the Afghan Hazaran ethnicity - a people from the cold and mountainous Hazarajat in central Afghanistan genetically capable of enduring low temperature and low oxygen extremes - a persecuted ethnic group who know something about survival in the mountains. It’s reported he was born and live in Melbourne. Are you suggesting his genetics saved him? It’s arguably more likely life living in Victoria has enabled him skills to be isolated for long periods of time post covid lockdown?

Where he is born in the world doesn't alter his genetics if he was born to Afghans.

Also, if he is a Hazari, and he likes hiking in the mountains, any chance his parents and relatives would not give him mountain survival tips?

Do you think northern Scandinavians would not pass on the same to their children if they showed interest in hiking through extreme regions?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 1:26pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 1:05pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 12:41pm: Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 11:54am: The condition he was “ found “ in. The reports he double back on his trial and rather than heading towards people headed towards the high land. The reports that his hut was searched several times including by helicopters equipped with heat seeking sensors. Somewhere on that mountain is a well concealed hole hiding everything he needed to survive as will as avoid “ rescue “. Of course if I’m wrong we can expect he will donate every cent to the recuse parties he “ earns “ from his “ story “. Wouldn’t everyone? “If” it’s “ true “. The police need to ask some questions and investigate. Follow the dna as they say. I thought it might be that Hadi Nazari is likely of the Afghan Hazaran ethnicity - a people from the cold and mountainous Hazarajat in central Afghanistan genetically capable of enduring low temperature and low oxygen extremes - a persecuted ethnic group who know something about survival in the mountains. It’s reported he was born and live in Melbourne. Are you suggesting his genetics saved him? It’s arguably more likely life living in Victoria has enabled him skills to be isolated for long periods of time post covid lockdown? Where he is born in the world doesn't alter his genetics if he was born to Afghans. Also, if he is a Hazari, and he likes hiking in the mountains, any chance his parents and relatives would not give him mountain survival tips? Do you think northern Scandinavians would not pass on the same to their children if they showed interest in hiking through extreme regions?

I’m unsure that “ eat the two chocolate bars that you find” would be classic survival hand me downs from ancient culture.

His story, the condition he was found in are two very different things.

People who were searching for him are asking serious questions.

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 1:31pm:

I’m unsure that “ eat the two chocolate bars that you find” would be classic survival hand me downs from ancient culture. His story, the condition he was found in are two very different things. People who were searching for him are asking serious questions.

Not the least of which will be his ethnicity and whether he had survival training.

Ask any people traditionally from mountainous regions of survival stories... you'll be impressed at how resilient they will tell you they are with few resources.

Is anyone in Australia impressed that Aboriginal peoples can endure hot, arid conditions?

He was an experienced hiker who had undertaken numerous week+ long hikes. He had shelter, he had fresh water and he had food. He was in the best position to survive

its an interesting question

attention =  a bankable commodity

ask donald.

its why we "pay' attention

does the story stack up?

human beings are pretty resilient and the "bush' is a bloody hard place to search

as a side question, did they employ drones in the search?

surely that is the new methodology

Another question: Is this whole thing a media beat-up that the networks felt they couldn't back out of once they'd run the story?

Has Hadi Nazari even claimed he was lost?

Peoples who have a genetic predisposition towards enduring extreme environments usually pride themselves on being able to survive in harsh conditions and are not usually given to admitting they were lost or in danger - that would be like admitting they're pussies.

Tibetans in Lhasa are embarrassed even to be seen carrying oxygen canisters.

I’m unsure why this is about his ethnicity?

And no, I’m not impressed our indigenous brothers can live in heat and arid conditions. I live here too, actually neighbours so I don’t see it as a amazing skill set.

Yes reporting saying he was a very experienced hiker and actually familiar with the area.
one of the searches who spent her two weeks Christmas holiday trying to find where he was hiding said , “ if he knows what his doing why didn’t he just follow the creek downstream too safety, everyone knows that.”

It’s also interesting how quickly his been stereotyped in this thread.
Afghanistan surname, must belong to a family of goat herders who live in mountain territories.
It’s interesting?
Why wouldn’t his family be successful professional’s?

Anyway the money from the interview and book and possibly a movie will tell.

If he was truly lost he obviously will donate every dollar to the organisation’s that searched for him?

Surely just being alive is enough. You wouldn’t “Profit” from the experience, or would you?

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 2:27pm:

I’m unsure why this is about his ethnicity? And no, I’m not impressed our indigenous brothers can live in heat and arid conditions. I live here too, actually neighbours so I don’t see it as a amazing skill set. Yes reporting saying he was a very experienced hiker and actually familiar with the area. one of the searches who spent her two weeks Christmas holiday trying to find where he was hiding said , “ if he knows what his doing why didn’t he just follow the creek downstream too safety, everyone knows that.” It’s also interesting how quickly his been stereotyped in this thread. Afghanistan surname, must belong to a family of goat herders who live in mountain territories. It’s interesting? Why wouldn’t his family be successful professional’s? Anyway the money from the interview and book and possibly a movie will tell. If he was truly lost he obviously will donate every dollar to the organisation’s that searched for him? Surely just being alive is enough. You wouldn’t “Profit” from the experience, or would you?

You've obviously not met people from cold, mountainous regions.

I'd bet $1000 there'll be no book deal.

I'd bet his family would laugh him out of the house if he hyped this up as a life-in-the-balance ordeal.

Has he even admitted that he was lost or in danger?

'The men have close-knit cultural ties, both being born in Afghanistan and growing up in Pakistan. The mountainous Pakistani city of Quetta forged them.

“The only thing I knew is he grew up in Quetta so he would survive. How he did, I do not know,” Mr Qasimi said of Mr Nazari’s ordeal.

“I was very confident Hadi would survive, because from childhood we don’t have any other hobbies, other than going to the mountains. To break fast, we go to the mountains. For lunch, we go to the mountains.”

Mr Qasimi was concerned and worried though; the dense bush of Mount Kosciuszko is a very different landscape to the dry mountains of Quetta.'
--
Paki wages are about $Aus 160/month, $1 hour. This buys a half cup of straw and filtered mud.

chimera wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 2:40pm:

Mr Qasimi was concerned and worried though; the dense bush of Mount Kosciuszko is a very different landscape to the dry mountains of Quetta.'

He might have been concerned or worried that Hadi had been bitten by a snake, or fallen down an abandoned mine shaft, or just slipped on loose shale and, say, broken a leg...

While in the Himalayas, I was shown the very spot where the lost Mars Bar trekker apparently dug in. A village was only 500 metres away and the spot was right on a path that could be considered a heavy traffic highway. The Nepalese who showed me this spot were quite humourous in that they were adamant it was a bit of well known fraud in the area.

Let's bring the Media's habit of BS into it.
Even today, the BBC and other mainstream Media networks and magazine still promote the Bajau people of the Philippines as long breathing 'underwater people'.
Now many a independent and low key visitor with small film crew have also documented them. But the reality they film is that the Bajau have been using Hooka and scuba for so long, none of them spearfish without it. Let alone use little goggles and do it barefoot. But they are very willing to ask for payment to put on a show of pretending to still Freediver like they do for BBC and Geographic magazines. In fact, the indie film maker challenged them with some traditional spearfishing and none of them, even with $$ rewards, could hold their breaths longer than him, or stay at a deeper depth than him. In fact, their limits underwater were no different to your average person.

Now this recent story of this man 'lost' for two weeks smells fishy because last year I think on NITV or another channel, I flicked across momentarily to hear something of things being said that "he knows how to survive out there for long periods" as if it was a reality challenge to show up survival shows and the likes of Alone series. I think this was circumstance was purposely done, but somehow got out of hand when Rescue Units got dragged into it or got suckered into it or... well, if it wasn't for that TV moment Dec last year.

14 days on water is OK.
' those who fasted for seven to 10 days lost about 2% to 10%, and those who fasted for 15 to 20 days lost 7% to 10%.'
https://today.uic.edu/water-fasts-can-help-you-lose-weight-but-you-might-gain-it-back-quickly/#:~:text=Fasting%20did%20seem%20to%20spur,lost%207%25%20to%2010%25.

You can prove it's correct because the pic shows girls in white coats. They are testing his fat for Muesli Bar atoms.

I believe he was genuinely lost. Seeing him now on tv walking uphill with hikers that found him… he was weary, thin, and 2 hikers helped him walk uphill.
I said to hubby that a couple factors would help him survive… he’s young and obviously fit from being a hiker and, he’s educated as a doctor to know what helps to stay alive as long as possible.
Yes the body can survive without food but not without water.
I think he may have become disorientated as he said to the rescue hikers something about being 8 days…the hiker showed him the date on her phone and said it’s actually been 13 days!
And trust me… as a photographer absorbed in surrounds to take photos… I know how easily lost one can get.

Sophia wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 8:30pm:

I think he may have become disorientated …. I know how easily lost one can get.

So do I, same age different National park, your first experience with LSD can really freak you out!

He hasn’t said anything, he may not have been lost at all?

Obviously taking legal advice and keep his story worth more as a “ exclusive “.
Let’s wait till his recover from choosing not to drink for a day and a half before jumping out in front of his rescuers
He hasn’t said anything I can find.
The media is just making up the story so far.

The copy cat lost in the bush individuals are going cost a lot of money and wasted time.

“ he only did it for 14 days, I can easily hide in the bush for 20 and beat him and get my head on tv”

If he had a personal EPIRB he would have been out of there within 2 hours of activating it.

I carry one when boating or hunting.

Gravity and Jet Pack Aviation are selling back pack jets for quick exit from dense bush and snake acres. Simply turn on red switch and pray.

Sophia wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 8:30pm:

I believe he was genuinely lost. Seeing him now on tv walking uphill with hikers that found him… he was weary, thin, and 2 hikers helped him walk uphill. I said to hubby that a couple factors would help him survive… he’s young and obviously fit from being a hiker and, he’s educated as a doctor to know what helps to stay alive as long as possible. Yes the body can survive without food but not without water. I think he may have become disorientated as he said to the rescue hikers something about being 8 days…the hiker showed him the date on her phone and said it’s actually been 13 days! And trust me… as a photographer absorbed in surrounds to take photos… I know how easily lost one can get.

Dr Mosley died within a few hours of going for a walk in Greece.

The 33-year-old Roxburgh Park man died about 2.40am on Monday, December 23 when his red Kia Cerato crashed into a tree on Bridgewater Road, Roxburgh Park.  This happened 3.12 seconds after impact.

Frank wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 10:07am:

Sophia wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 8:30pm: I believe he was genuinely lost. Seeing him now on tv walking uphill with hikers that found him… he was weary, thin, and 2 hikers helped him walk uphill. I said to hubby that a couple factors would help him survive… he’s young and obviously fit from being a hiker and, he’s educated as a doctor to know what helps to stay alive as long as possible. Yes the body can survive without food but not without water. I think he may have become disorientated as he said to the rescue hikers something about being 8 days…the hiker showed him the date on her phone and said it’s actually been 13 days! And trust me… as a photographer absorbed in surrounds to take photos… I know how easily lost one can get. Dr Mosley died within a few hours of going for a walk in Greece.

There were far more harsher elements to that situation… he was older, had diabetes, temp was over 40 deg and no tree shades, plus nowhere to find refreshing water nor did he have snacks on him or correct hiking gear. Totally unprepared for more than an hour’s stroll away from motel. Thus he left his mobile phone back at accommodation.
If all those combinations were’nt asking for trouble!

And… despite some saying he must’ve sought legal advice to keep silent… here is a report that may show something else…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-09/hikers-who-found-hadi-nazari-alive-kosciuszko-national-park/104798056

And compare photos of him before he went missing to when found… he definitely looks more dehydrated/gaunt.

Sophia wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 10:49am:

Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:07am: Sophia wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 8:30pm: I believe he was genuinely lost. Seeing him now on tv walking uphill with hikers that found him… he was weary, thin, and 2 hikers helped him walk uphill. I said to hubby that a couple factors would help him survive… he’s young and obviously fit from being a hiker and, he’s educated as a doctor to know what helps to stay alive as long as possible. Yes the body can survive without food but not without water. I think he may have become disorientated as he said to the rescue hikers something about being 8 days…the hiker showed him the date on her phone and said it’s actually been 13 days! And trust me… as a photographer absorbed in surrounds to take photos… I know how easily lost one can get. Dr Mosley died within a few hours of going for a walk in Greece. There were far more harsher elements to that situation… he was older, had diabetes, temp was over 40 deg and no tree shades, plus nowhere to find refreshing water nor did he have snacks on him or correct hiking gear. Totally unprepared for more than an hour’s stroll away from motel. Thus he left his mobile phone back at accommodation. If all those combinations were’nt asking for trouble!

The native grieve when the white men leave their huts
Because they're obviously definitely nuts!
Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun

https://youtu.be/6lEkHonfL7E?si=P5RSiSYWUeHOx3RG

I imagine Dr Mosley must have whisted this to himself as he was expiring.

'We were all surprised and shocked how fit and healthy he was'

'He really had good survival instincts.'

Yep! Nothing like the right genes for the right place!

There are certainly questions about this incident. The media touts this bloke an 'an experienced bushwalker' yet he committed the rookie mistake of not staying put when he realised he was lost.  Seems he also found a hut. Why not stay there?  I will be very interested in reading the full story if and when it is released, and as luck would have it I know one of the SES blokes involved in the search and will be seeing him over the Australia Day weekend. I'm keen to get his take on this. 

Belgarion wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 12:16pm:

There are certainly questions about this incident. The media touts this bloke an 'an experienced bushwalker' yet he committed the rookie mistake of not staying put when he realised he was lost.  Seems he also found a hut. Why not stay there?  I will be very interested in reading the full story if and when it is released, and as luck would have it I know one of the SES blokes involved in the search and will be seeing him over the Australia Day weekend. I'm keen to get his take on this.

Everyone that does bush walking in right conditions are experienced! (Just like Bear Grylls?)
Until it becomes a lone situation … with no compass in hand?

I recall in Canada waking through forest to see a lake and our tour guide said to always look behind ourselves to see where we came from for markings/bush/tree patterns to return, as it looks different to where we are headed.
Good advice that.
Be interested to hear what your SES bloke has to say.

I'd bet the story real, in that he got lost - genes don't grant you an inner GPS.

The fact that he remained relatively fit and healthy... well, it was only 13 days... that's not good, but it's not 5 weeks.

He's descended from peoples whose physiology is adapted to cold, mountainous terrain, which would help.

Psychologically, he may also have inherited the instinct not to panic during the ordeal.

It could be worked up into a movie: the great journey from Himalayas to the Aboriginal sacred mountain, the young doctor who fought off crocodiles, spiders, snakes and starvation while reaching peace with his deep person in the Outback downunder.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 1:53pm:

I'd bet the story real, in that he got lost - genes don't grant you an inner GPS. The fact that he remained relatively fit and healthy... well, it was only 13 days... that's not good, but it's not 5 weeks. He's descended from peoples whose physiology is adapted to cold, mountainous terrain, which would help. Psychologically, he may also have inherited the instinct not to panic during the ordeal.

This is reminding me back in Jan 22 when I got a severe case of COVID … I was unable to eat or drink (couldn’t keep it down) for 10 days! Losing 6 kgs in that time!
Sure I was in a bed safe from external factors..(I should’ve been in hospital on a drip, but they were full with so many others with heart or lung/breathing problems)
But over 10 days and dehydrated/losing weight left me lacking with energy except a bit at a time getting up and going short distances.
So I’m not surprised someone young fit and basically in good health could survive 10-13 days

chimera wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 2:49pm:

It could be worked up into a movie: the great journey from Himalayas to the Aboriginal sacred mountain, the young doctor who fought off crocodiles, spiders, snakes and starvation while reaching peace with his deep person in the Outback downunder.

Wow that sounds pretty good! You should be director!

I'm trying to work in the wild bush horses where the reed-beds sweep and sway and the stockmen tell the story of his ride. Also Sophia the fair-haired mountain beauty who waited by the hut door and fed kangaroos on muesli bars, singing about her colonial boy.

chimera wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 4:25pm:

I'm trying to work in the wild bush horses where the reed-beds sweep and sway and the stockmen tell the story of his ride. Also Sophia the fair-haired mountain beauty who waited by the hut door and fed kangaroos on muesli bars, singing about her colonial boy.

His lost and delirious and suffers flashbacks to life in Pakistani “hiding” from  American drones every time a search helicopter appears .
While descending from their mountain he sees the search party in the valley below and again flashbacks to Australian special forces kicking his family of cliffs for fun and runs towards the high country in search of the Talibam and safety from the white crusaders.

Justin Bieber is set to be the leading man.

He remembers riding with Saladin and 1000 armoured knights to defend Jerusalem against the Crusader armies on ships sailing the Snowy River to Kosciusko and the fortress in the clouds.

The final scene cuts to a clinical setting in a hospital where a white doctor turns from our hero’s bed and too the joy of his family and friends announces “ his going to make it” than in a concerned tone “ I’m going to refer him to drugs and alcohol specialists. Obviously if he keeps using LSD this sort of trip may happen again “.
The camera pans out over the hospital bed and out the window our boy is staring and a magpie flys past- suddenly turning into a fighter jet.

Marla then rushes in with a suitcase of weed. Sophia turns in horror and throws the lot out the window. Nazari leaps to grab some and hangs from the thin metal awning, 10 stories up. Marla and Sophia are on the other strut kicking and scratching. Nurses scream, SES runs in circles and helicopters swoop with ropes dangling. Patients pour from the hospital to collect weed. Riot police start shooting. Sophia sings to Nazari. The sun goes down.

When the SES finally came in they saw the truth of the matter, Sophia was holding back Marla from harm as a mysterious black mountain panther, long held thoughts it was a legend, appeared and had sniffed out the weed, clawing at the bag opening it up with the contents spilling everywhere!

Dave and Chim stayed outside safe listening to all the commotion…
“Geez Chim-oh, ya’d reckon there was big foot making all that racket!”
“Yeah Dav-oh, lucky we’re in oystraylia mate, no big foot here!”

Sophia wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 4:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:53pm: I'd bet the story real, in that he got lost - genes don't grant you an inner GPS. The fact that he remained relatively fit and healthy... well, it was only 13 days... that's not good, but it's not 5 weeks. He's descended from peoples whose physiology is adapted to cold, mountainous terrain, which would help. Psychologically, he may also have inherited the instinct not to panic during the ordeal. This is reminding me back in Jan 22 when I got a severe case of COVID … I was unable to eat or drink (couldn’t keep it down) for 10 days! Losing 6 kgs in that time! Sure I was in a bed safe from external factors..(I should’ve been in hospital on a drip, but they were full with so many others with heart or lung/breathing problems) But over 10 days and dehydrated/losing weight left me lacking with energy except a bit at a time getting up and going short distances. So I’m not surprised someone young fit and basically in good health could survive 10-13 days

Robert Bogucki... Now there's a survival story!

Robert Bogucki (born 1966) is an American firefighter from Alaska notable for having survived 43 days lost in Western Australia's Great Sandy Desert before being rescued.

Poor guy!
The media helicopter found him and rather than take him to hospital…

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/bogucki/102840846?utm_campaign=abc_mediawatch&utm_content=link&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_mediawatch

It's a magic trick.
The Media knows, people like being fooled.

Sophia wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 8:30pm:

I believe he was genuinely lost. Seeing him now on tv walking uphill with hikers that found him… he was weary, thin, and 2 hikers helped him walk uphill. I said to hubby that a couple factors would help him survive… he’s young and obviously fit from being a hiker and, he’s educated as a doctor to know what helps to stay alive as long as possible. Yes the body can survive without food but not without water. I think he may have become disorientated as he said to the rescue hikers something about being 8 days…the hiker showed him the date on her phone and said it’s actually been 13 days! And trust me… as a photographer absorbed in surrounds to take photos… I know how easily lost one can get.

Yet for an experienced hiker born/lived in a mountainous region of Afghanistan/Pakistan he did everything wrong for someone supposedly lost.

If he found a hut - that's where he should have stayed.

Frank wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 10:07am:

Sophia wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 8:30pm: I believe he was genuinely lost. Seeing him now on tv walking uphill with hikers that found him… he was weary, thin, and 2 hikers helped him walk uphill. I said to hubby that a couple factors would help him survive… he’s young and obviously fit from being a hiker and, he’s educated as a doctor to know what helps to stay alive as long as possible. Yes the body can survive without food but not without water. I think he may have become disorientated as he said to the rescue hikers something about being 8 days…the hiker showed him the date on her phone and said it’s actually been 13 days! And trust me… as a photographer absorbed in surrounds to take photos… I know how easily lost one can get. Dr Mosley died within a few hours of going for a walk in Greece.

He wasn't an experienced hiker - he was out in extreme heat without water.

Sophia wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 10:54am:

And… despite some saying he must’ve sought legal advice to keep silent… here is a report that may show something else… https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-09/hikers-who-found-hadi-nazari-alive-kosciuszko-national-park/104798056 And compare photos of him before he went missing to when found… he definitely looks more dehydrated/gaunt.

There are running creeks & rivers all through that region.

Again - as an experienced hiker he should have followed water courses - which he must have done - because he wouldn't have lasted 2 weeks without water.

Gnads wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:09am:

Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:07am: Sophia wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 8:30pm: I believe he was genuinely lost. Seeing him now on tv walking uphill with hikers that found him… he was weary, thin, and 2 hikers helped him walk uphill. I said to hubby that a couple factors would help him survive… he’s young and obviously fit from being a hiker and, he’s educated as a doctor to know what helps to stay alive as long as possible. Yes the body can survive without food but not without water. I think he may have become disorientated as he said to the rescue hikers something about being 8 days…the hiker showed him the date on her phone and said it’s actually been 13 days! And trust me… as a photographer absorbed in surrounds to take photos… I know how easily lost one can get. Dr Mosley died within a few hours of going for a walk in Greece. He wasn't an experienced hiker - he was out in extreme heat without water.

Yes but… did you see the music clip Frank put up… very very apt!
Here are the lyrics! 

In tropical climes, there are certain times of day
When all the citizens retire to tear their clothes off and perspire
It's one of those rules that the greatest fools obey
Because the sun is much too sultry and one must avoid its ultry-violet ray
Pap it like a-, pap it like a-, pap it like a bull, that's native
Dig it, dig it, dig it, dig it, dig it, dig it do
The native grieve when the white men leave their huts
Because they're obviously definitely nuts!
Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun
The Japanese don't care to
The Chinese wouldn't dare to
Hindoos and Argentines sleep firmly from 12 to one
But Englishmen detest a siesta
In the Philippines, there are lovely screens to protect you from the glare
In the Malay States, there are hats like plates which the Britishers won't wear
At 12 noon, the natives swoon and no further work is done
But mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun
Oh, it's such a surprise for the Eastern eyes to see
That though the English are effete, they're quite impervious to heat
When the white man rides, every native hides in glee
Because the simple creatures hope he will impale his solar topee on a tree
Hop in the-, hop in the-, hop in the-, hop in the hut
This ain't native, pay no attention
Dig it, dig it, dig it, dig it, dig it out
It seems such a shame when the English claim the earth
That they give rise to such hilarity and mirth
Hahahahaha, oh, dear
Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun
The smallest Malay rabbit deplores this foolish habit in Hong Kong
They strike a gong and fire off a noonday gun
To reprimand each inmate who's in late
In a jungle town where the sun beats down to the rage of man and beast
The English garb of the English sahib merely gets a bit more creased
In Bangkok at twelve o'clock, they foam at the mouth and run
But mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun
Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun
The toughest Burmese bandit can never understand it
In Rangoon, the heat of noon is just what the natives shun
They put their Scotch or Rye down, lie down
In the mangrove swamps where the python romps
There is peace from 12 'til two
Even caribous lie around and snooze
For there's nothing else to do
In Bengal to move at all
Is seldom, if ever done
But mad dogs and Englishmen
Go out in the midday
Out in the midday
Out in the midday
Out in the midday
Out in the midday
Out in the midday
Out in the midday sun

Sophia wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 1:24pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 12:16pm: There are certainly questions about this incident. The media touts this bloke an 'an experienced bushwalker' yet he committed the rookie mistake of not staying put when he realised he was lost.  Seems he also found a hut. Why not stay there?  I will be very interested in reading the full story if and when it is released, and as luck would have it I know one of the SES blokes involved in the search and will be seeing him over the Australia Day weekend. I'm keen to get his take on this.  Everyone that does bush walking in right conditions are experienced! (Just like Bear Grylls?) Until it becomes a lone situation … with no compass in hand? I recall in Canada waking through forest to see a lake and our tour guide said to always look behind ourselves to see where we came from for markings/bush/tree patterns to return, as it looks different to where we are headed. Good advice that. Be interested to hear what your SES bloke has to say.

Spoke to my mate in the SES over the weekend. He is very sceptical of this blokes survival story. Reckons had he stayed put he would have been found at the latest on day 4, and suspects he was deliberately walking away from searchers. Also felt he looked way too fit to have existed only on a couple of muesli bars and berries for 13 days.  :-?

White Man follow compass .. Indian say Sun rise in East, set in West .. sun lower one side sky ... if winter sun further north - walking with sun on left side is East.... right side is West... in Summer sun slightly south - walking with sun on right side is East... left side is West... no walking in circle... same with moon and star at night... North Star always to north...  only white man get lost in desert - no circle - look back along track for straight ... one time lost on strange road - always keep moon in same place know am traveling right direction... find country town...

Likely Yellow Man not 'lost' but suffer loss of self develop Spatial Disorientation - old Indian term for lose balance and fall into head spin and lack of control .... allow spirits to control thought and movement ...  Yellow Man only THINK lost.... mind over matter... mind is wrong this time ..... should avoid peyote bean and tequila ....

Grappler Tribal Wisdom...

Yummmmm - peyote bean and tequila....

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