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Message started by Brian Ross on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am

Title: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in buying Greenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by John Smith on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:36am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Here's why he wants the island



he thinks its green and wants to build a golf course? :D

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by John Smith on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:58am

Quote:
Here's why he wants the island


He can sell it to Putin in exchange for the videos of hookers giving him a golden shower?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm

Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

That's what you get for electing a violent rapist convicted of 34 felonies.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

That's what you get for electing a violent rapist convicted of 34 felonies.


Bobbi is suspiciously quiet.

I thought Trump was anti-war..?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:39pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

That's what you get for electing a violent rapist convicted of 34 felonies.


Bobbi is suspiciously quiet.

I thought Trump was anti-war..?


Yeah, that's what Bobbi said.

However, Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland.



Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:16pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

That's what you get for electing a violent rapist convicted of 34 felonies.


Bobbi is suspiciously quiet.

I thought Trump was anti-war..?




Maybe it's part of a secret deal with Putin?  -

'you have a few parts of Ukraine and we'll take Greenland.'

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

That's what you get for electing a violent rapist convicted of 34 felonies.


Bobbi is suspiciously quiet.

I thought Trump was anti-war..?




Maybe it's part of a secret deal with Putin?  -

'you have a few parts of Ukraine and we'll take Greenland.'


What about the military force, Bobbi?

You said the rapist was anti-war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ver9wjWaRvM


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:21pm

Don't worry Greggy,

Greenland can't fight the USA - there will be no war.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:23pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:21pm:
Don't worry Greggy,

Greenland can't fight the USA - there will be no war.


Semantics, hey?

If he attacks and they don't fight back, it's not a war?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdWeiYfSx3w

The rapist is a violent war-monger.

He's threatening military action in Greenland, Panama, and the Middle East.

Looks like your rapist buddy is the one who'll start WWIII


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:21pm:
Don't worry Greggy,

Greenland can't fight the USA - there will be no war.


Semantics, hey?

If he attacks and they don't fight back, it's not a war?

The rapist is a violent war-monger.

He's threatening military action in Greenland, Panama, and the Middle East.

Looks like your rapist buddy is the one who'll start WWIII



nah - he won't do any of that -

but he will go after all those people on social media who falsely accuse him of rape.   :-[

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:23pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1736300032/10#10 date=1736310076]
Don't worry Greggy,

Greenland can't fight the USA - there will be no war.


Semantics, hey?

If he attacks and they don't fight back, it's not a war?

The rapist is a violent war-monger.

He's threatening military action in Greenland, Panama, and the Middle East.

Looks like your rapist buddy is the one who'll start WWIII



nah - he won't do any of that -

but he will go after all those people on social media who falsely accuse him of rape.   :-[/quote]

How can a rapist be falsely be accused of rape?

That makes no sense, Bobbi.

It's like saying Rudy Giuliani isn't a broke old man.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by chimera on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 1975 at 12:50am:
Greenland can't fight the USA - there will be no war.

When you're a star, they let you grab them..
Prime Minister of Denmark Mette Frederiksen gets the hush money.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:23pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1736300032/10#10 date=1736310076]
Don't worry Greggy,

Greenland can't fight the USA - there will be no war.


Semantics, hey?

If he attacks and they don't fight back, it's not a war?

The rapist is a violent war-monger.

He's threatening military action in Greenland, Panama, and the Middle East.

Looks like your rapist buddy is the one who'll start WWIII



nah - he won't do any of that -

but he will go after all those people on social media who falsely accuse him of rape.   :-[/quote]

How can a rapist be falsely be accused of rape?

That makes no sense, Bobbi.

It's like saying Rudy Giuliani isn't a broke old man.



Cause when you're a star they let you do it -
you can do anything -
grab ....

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:34pm

chimera wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 1975 at 12:50am:
Greenland can't fight the USA - there will be no war.

When you're a star, they let you grab them..
Prime Minister of Denmark Mette Frederiksen gets the hush money.



Yep - it's the art of the deal.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Leroy on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:45pm
OMG Trump is going to use nuclear weapons against Greenland, he never ruled it out so he must be going to use nuclear weapons.

OMG he is going to take over the world, he has never ruled it out, OMG what are we to do.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:47pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:58am:

Quote:
Here's why he wants the island


He can sell it to Putin in exchange for the videos of hookers giving him a golden shower?


Aha. I think you've got it. Vlad's claiming his debt.

He'll demand Ukraine next, you'll see. DL will be forced to pay up. Vlad's longing for the day Zalensky's handed over. Straight to the gulags. Vlad can toy with him for a while before they administer the novichok.

We'll win so much we'll grow tired of winning, no? 

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:49pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:58am:

Quote:
Here's why he wants the island


He can sell it to Putin in exchange for the videos of hookers giving him a golden shower?


Aha. I think you've got it. Vlad's claiming his debt.

He'll demand Ukraine next, you'll see. DL will be forced to pay up. Vlad's longing for the day Zalensky's handed over. Straight to the gulags. Vlad can toy with him for a while before they administer the novichok.

We'll win so much we'll grow tired of winning, no? 



Trump will remake the world in God's image.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by chimera on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:50pm
There's not a thing anyone can do. Europe is out of artillery shells and cardboard tanks. Divide Germany and donny gets the west side, Vlad the east. Deal.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:51pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:45pm:
OMG Trump is going to use nuclear weapons against Greenland, he never ruled it out so he must be going to use nuclear weapons.

OMG he is going to take over the world, he has never ruled it out, OMG what are we to do.


OMG, you mean he isn't going to do any of that? He was just pretending?

Oh, my. How smart and cunning of DL to use the N word. What an original. Other leaders spend all day talking, and there's the big fella, just killing it.

Not so much a man as a God, no?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by chimera on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:58pm
Just 12 more sleeps and it's Don-Day.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:58am:

Quote:
Here's why he wants the island


He can sell it to Putin in exchange for the videos of hookers giving him a golden shower?


Aha. I think you've got it. Vlad's claiming his debt.

He'll demand Ukraine next, you'll see. DL will be forced to pay up. Vlad's longing for the day Zalensky's handed over. Straight to the gulags. Vlad can toy with him for a while before they administer the novichok.

We'll win so much we'll grow tired of winning, no? 



Trump will remake the world in God's image.


That's the "noble Vlad's" image, Bobby.

Ace fighter pilot, champion equestrian, chess grand master, Olympic judo medalist, concert pianist, you name it, Vlad's a true Renaissance man, superior in every way.

Of course DL would defer to his Master, it's what you do. We've all gotta serve somebody, who better than Vlad?

The leftards should be bowing down to weep tears of pure gratitude for such greatness, but no. All they ever do is sneer.

Typical. Lives of pure garbage.

Despicable stuff.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Leroy on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:02pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:51pm:


Not so much a man as a God, no?


God is man made idol, like santa clause or the tooth fairy but Trump is real, everyones day revolves around what Trump does.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:04pm

chimera wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:58pm:
Just 12 more sleeps and it's Don-Day.


Just so. Ukraine and Israel solved, the southern border sealed, the deficit fixed, the leftards purged, the illegals deported, drill baby drill.

It's going to be quite a day, but do you know?

If none of it happens, Bobby's placed his bet - off with his Master to keep on truckin'.

We'll miss him, Chimera.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:06pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:58am:

Quote:
Here's why he wants the island


He can sell it to Putin in exchange for the videos of hookers giving him a golden shower?


Aha. I think you've got it. Vlad's claiming his debt.

He'll demand Ukraine next, you'll see. DL will be forced to pay up. Vlad's longing for the day Zalensky's handed over. Straight to the gulags. Vlad can toy with him for a while before they administer the novichok.

We'll win so much we'll grow tired of winning, no? 



Trump will remake the world in God's image.


That's the "noble Vlad's" image, Bobby.

Ace fighter pilot, champion equestrian, chess grand master, Olympic judo medalist, concert pianist, you name it, Vlad's a true Renaissance man, superior in every way.

Of course DL would defer to his Master, it's what you do. We've all gotta serve somebody, who better than Vlad?

The leftards should be bowing down to weep tears of pure gratitude for such greatness, but no. All they ever do is sneer.

Typical. Lives of pure garbage.

Despicable stuff.



You got it all wrong -

there's no greater star than Trump -

he can do anything.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:08pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:51pm:


Not so much a man as a God, no?


God is man made idol, like santa clause or the tooth fairy but Trump is real, everyones day revolves around what Trump does.


Don't tell Bobi, Leroy. He thinks it's the other way around.

So much winning, no?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:09pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:08pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:51pm:


Not so much a man as a God, no?


God is man made idol, like santa clause or the tooth fairy but Trump is real, everyones day revolves around what Trump does.


Don't tell Bobi, Leroy. He thinks it's the other way around.

So much winning, no?





Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by John Smith on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:19pm
poor Frank

he couldn't wait to rush in and highlight his stupidity all over again  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by chimera on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:26pm
Canada as a founding member of NATO can call on Denmark's 2 frigates to open fire on yank rust buckets. Drone icebergs are an unknown potential force.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:28pm

When you're the President they let you do it:

invade Greenland,
invade Panama,
bomb the hell out of the Middle East,
give away part of Ukraine to Putin.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:28pm:
When you're the President they let you do it:

invade Greenland,
invade Panama,
bomb the hell out of the Middle East,
give away part of Ukraine to Putin.


You said he was anti-war.

So, you admit you lied?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU


Frank went quiet all of a sudden.

I guess he rushed off to another thread and changed the subject there.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Jan 8th, 2025 at 4:36pm
I am translating a short note from political scientist Semyon Uralov (Семён Уралов) from Telegram.


About Trump and Greenland

Each new US administration opens a new front to weaken competitors.

Moreover, US presidents carry out preparatory work for their successors. In words, they [presidents] may conflict with each other, but the course to create specific problems, lay the foundation for deferred conflicts and open new fronts is unchanged.

The Biden administration brought Finland and Sweden into NATO, thereby preparing the ground for Trump-2 special operation in Greenland.

Just as the Trump-1 administration once began actively supplying weapons to Kyiv, passing the baton to the Biden administration.

Greenland is the Arctic front of the US against Russia.

On this front, the US has a minority stake, so Greenland is needed for formal dominance in the region.

Also extremely important are the northern vassals from among the small European countries.

One of them will try to commit suicide against Russia, as a post-Ukraine.

"Beat your own, so that others are afraid" - the central principle of the policy of our overseas partners has not changed since the Northern States [of America] robbed the Southern ones during the civil war.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by chimera on Jan 8th, 2025 at 4:47pm

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 4:36pm:
The Biden administration brought Finland and Sweden into NATO,.

The Bidens in Ukraine met agents of the Russian Imperial Cossacks and ordered a cavalry charge into Crimea. The US then handed Putin the Oreshnik drawings and told Finland to join the Pentagon or Russian tsunamis would sink Helsinki. Sweden's Nazi Homo terrorists then followed Finland as Trump threatened to give it to Putin. He may do it on Jan 20th.   

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by John Smith on Jan 8th, 2025 at 4:53pm

Quote:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenland



some maga told him it was a new menu item at Mcdonalds :D

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by chimera on Jan 8th, 2025 at 4:56pm
It's incorrect about him wearing a Ronald Mac clown suit for the Oath.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by chimera on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:58pm
Frank 'I want to buy this car'.
'Yes Sir. Show us your money'.
'Not money, ($&%$ !~ . I use military force, same thing'.

Trump says
"This is a deal that must happen. MAGA. MAKE GREENLAND GREAT AGAIN!"
Greenland settled Newfoundland when Eric the Red owned the Atlantic Ocean. Greenland is great when it again rules America.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:20pm

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.


The old boy does have a point, despicable. His DL's offered to buy Greenland. If Denmark doesn't want to sell, they can accept his jolly invasion.

Art of the deal, no? Do you know what the old boy is?

He's a patriot. National sovereignty, innit. He loves his jolly motherland.

Hates Mette, loves Uncle.

Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, ja?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:25pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:20pm:
The old boy does have a point, despicable. His DL's offered to buy Greenland. If Denmark doesn't want to sell, they can accept his jolly invasion.

Art of the deal, no? Do you know what the old boy is?

He's a patriot. National sovereignty, innit. He loves his jolly motherland.

Hates Mette, loves Uncle.

Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, ja?





Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jasin on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:39pm
Taking Greenland and the Panama has been an American national security agenda long before even Trump decided to run for President.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:56pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:39pm:
Taking Greenland and the Panama has been an American national security agenda long before even Trump decided to run for President.


Nobody expects the rapist to come up with something original.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:58pm

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.



Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jasin on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:56pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:39pm:
Taking Greenland and the Panama has been an American national security agenda long before even Trump decided to run for President.


Nobody expects the rapist to come up with something original.

Nor do we expect a Forum sex pervert like you to come up with anything remotely intelligent, let alone original.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:00pm

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.



Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jasin on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:03pm
Peccary's homo erotic fantasies are well documented on this Forum. Explains his obsession with Rape.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:52pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.


The old boy does have a point, despicable. His DL's offered to buy Greenland. If Denmark doesn't want to sell, they can accept his jolly invasion.

Art of the deal, no? Do you know what the old boy is?

He's a patriot. National sovereignty, innit. He loves his jolly motherland.

Hates Mette, loves Uncle.

Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, ja?


I'm sure Frank will have no problem with the rapist taking land away from his mother country, even if a few Danes get shot.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:57pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:03pm:
Peccary's homo erotic fantasies are well documented on this Forum. Explains his obsession with Rape.



Gmods - take note:

Pecca has accused Trump of being a rapist at least 1,000 times on Ozpolitic.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:57pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:03pm:
Peccary's homo erotic fantasies are well documented on this Forum. Explains his obsession with Rape.



Gmods - take note:

Pecca has accused Trump of being a rapist at least 1,000 times on Ozpolitic.


Well, that's because he's a rapist.

Judge in E. Jean Carroll Case: Yes, Donald Trump Is a Rapist

Judge Lewis Kaplan called Trump’s semantic argument “entirely unpersuasive.” He clarified that the jury found that the former president did indeed “rape” Carroll based on the common definition of the word.



Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.


The old boy does have a point, despicable. His DL's offered to buy Greenland. If Denmark doesn't want to sell, they can accept his jolly invasion.

Art of the deal, no? Do you know what the old boy is?

He's a patriot. National sovereignty, innit. He loves his jolly motherland.

Hates Mette, loves Uncle.

Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, ja?


I'm sure Frank will have no problem with the rapist taking land away from his mother country, even if a few Danes get shot.

Wank on, you two losers.
That's all you have.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:41pm

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.


The old boy does have a point, despicable. His DL's offered to buy Greenland. If Denmark doesn't want to sell, they can accept his jolly invasion.

Art of the deal, no? Do you know what the old boy is?

He's a patriot. National sovereignty, innit. He loves his jolly motherland.

Hates Mette, loves Uncle.

Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, ja?


I'm sure Frank will have no problem with the rapist taking land away from his mother country, even if a few Danes get shot.

Wank on, you two losers.
That's all you have.


Are you happy to give up Greenland to the rapist?


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:41pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.


The old boy does have a point, despicable. His DL's offered to buy Greenland. If Denmark doesn't want to sell, they can accept his jolly invasion.

Art of the deal, no? Do you know what the old boy is?

He's a patriot. National sovereignty, innit. He loves his jolly motherland.

Hates Mette, loves Uncle.

Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, ja?


I'm sure Frank will have no problem with the rapist taking land away from his mother country, even if a few Danes get shot.

Wank on, you two losers.
That's all you have.


Are you happy to give up Greenland to the rapist?

Ask me if I am happy to keep your head under water.

Go on, ask.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:46pm

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:41pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.


The old boy does have a point, despicable. His DL's offered to buy Greenland. If Denmark doesn't want to sell, they can accept his jolly invasion.

Art of the deal, no? Do you know what the old boy is?

He's a patriot. National sovereignty, innit. He loves his jolly motherland.

Hates Mette, loves Uncle.

Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, ja?


I'm sure Frank will have no problem with the rapist taking land away from his mother country, even if a few Danes get shot.

Wank on, you two losers.
That's all you have.


Are you happy to give up Greenland to the rapist?

Ask me if I am happy to keep your head under water.

Go on, ask.


Are you happy to give up Greenland to the rapist?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Then we can move on to the subject of military force.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:41pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.


The old boy does have a point, despicable. His DL's offered to buy Greenland. If Denmark doesn't want to sell, they can accept his jolly invasion.

Art of the deal, no? Do you know what the old boy is?

He's a patriot. National sovereignty, innit. He loves his jolly motherland.

Hates Mette, loves Uncle.

Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, ja?


I'm sure Frank will have no problem with the rapist taking land away from his mother country, even if a few Danes get shot.

Wank on, you two losers.
That's all you have.


Are you happy to give up Greenland to the rapist?

Ask me if I am happy to keep your head under water.

Go on, ask.


Are you happy to give up Greenland to the rapist?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Then we can move on to the subject of military force.

Happy to negotiate it if we can keep your head under water until an agreement is reached.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:57pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:03pm:
Peccary's homo erotic fantasies are well documented on this Forum. Explains his obsession with Rape.



Gmods - take note:

Pecca has accused Trump of being a rapist at least 1,000 times on Ozpolitic.


Well, that's because he's a rapist.

Judge in E. Jean Carroll Case: Yes, Donald Trump Is a Rapist

Judge Lewis Kaplan called Trump’s semantic argument “entirely unpersuasive.” He clarified that the jury found that the former president did indeed “rape” Carroll based on the common definition of the word.



Pecca is an example of morality - high moral standards.   ;D

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:22pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:57pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:03pm:
Peccary's homo erotic fantasies are well documented on this Forum. Explains his obsession with Rape.



Gmods - take note:

Pecca has accused Trump of being a rapist at least 1,000 times on Ozpolitic.


Well, that's because he's a rapist.

Judge in E. Jean Carroll Case: Yes, Donald Trump Is a Rapist

Judge Lewis Kaplan called Trump’s semantic argument “entirely unpersuasive.” He clarified that the jury found that the former president did indeed “rape” Carroll based on the common definition of the word.



Pecca is an example of morality - high moral standards.   ;D


Trump is an example of a rapist.

Judge in E. Jean Carroll Case: Yes, Donald Trump Is a Rapist

Judge Lewis Kaplan called Trump’s semantic argument “entirely unpersuasive.” He clarified that the jury found that the former president did indeed “rape” Carroll based on the common definition of the word.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Mortdooley on Jan 8th, 2025 at 10:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:57pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:03pm:
Peccary's homo erotic fantasies are well documented on this Forum. Explains his obsession with Rape.



Gmods - take note:

Pecca has accused Trump of being a rapist at least 1,000 times on Ozpolitic.


Well, that's because he's a rapist.

Judge in E. Jean Carroll Case: Yes, Donald Trump Is a Rapist

Judge Lewis Kaplan called Trump’s semantic argument “entirely unpersuasive.” He clarified that the jury found that the former president did indeed “rape” Carroll based on the common definition of the word.



Give us all a break here greggy. Everyone with a functioning brain knows Trump didn't rape anyone including that hideous crone. Remember she wrote a sexual fantasy about exactly the same incident years before she claims Donald Trump was her abuser. The US injustice system is in freefall. Jan 6 visitors to the capital grounds have been held in solitary confinement for up to four years without charges or legal representation.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.


The old boy does have a point, despicable. His DL's offered to buy Greenland. If Denmark doesn't want to sell, they can accept his jolly invasion.

Art of the deal, no? Do you know what the old boy is?

He's a patriot. National sovereignty, innit. He loves his jolly motherland.

Hates Mette, loves Uncle.

Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, ja?


I'm sure Frank will have no problem with the rapist taking land away from his mother country, even if a few Danes get shot.


Shot? Don't be ridiculous.

He's threatening to nuke them.

National security, innit. He never did say why. 

Presumably those Greenlanders are a real worry, Greggery. You wouldn't want them getting into America, oh no.

They might pickle a few rollmops, stink out the joint with their cheese, or just die already.

Take the old boy. He's been decomposing for the past twenty years. You simply can't dispose of these people, dear, they refuse to go nicely.

NUKE THEM !!!

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:31pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:03pm:
Peccary's homo erotic fantasies are well documented on this Forum. Explains his obsession with Rape.


Nothing wrong with a bit of forced entry, dear.

If it wasn't for rape, you'd have your hymen, you poor old thing.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jasin on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:25am

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 10:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:57pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:03pm:
Peccary's homo erotic fantasies are well documented on this Forum. Explains his obsession with Rape.



Gmods - take note:

Pecca has accused Trump of being a rapist at least 1,000 times on Ozpolitic.


Well, that's because he's a rapist.

Judge in E. Jean Carroll Case: Yes, Donald Trump Is a Rapist

Judge Lewis Kaplan called Trump’s semantic argument “entirely unpersuasive.” He clarified that the jury found that the former president did indeed “rape” Carroll based on the common definition of the word.



Give us all a break here greggy. Everyone with a functioning brain knows Trump didn't rape anyone including that hideous crone. Remember she wrote a sexual fantasy about exactly the same incident years before she claims Donald Trump was her abuser. The US injustice system is in freefall. Jan 6 visitors to the capital grounds have been held in solitary confinement for up to four years without charges or legal representation.

He knows Morty.
He's only here to troll.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:38am
We all know Trumpy is a disgusting human being. He did commit at least one rape.

His presidency will be a disaster again. I pray and hope he dies before human to human H5N1 avian flu causes a second, and worse, pandemic.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jasin on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:45am
As is this flea.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by aquascoot on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:52am

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:38am:
We all know Trumpy is a disgusting human being. He did commit at least one rape.

His presidency will be a disaster again. I pray and hope he dies before human to human H5N1 avian flu causes a second, and worse, pandemic.



Have you got a link to how we all know that

I thought he recently won an election

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:59am
HM Americans did the idiot kill last time? 500,000 due idiotic response to covid19? Drink bleach, shine a light up your arse and other crap?

Remember Trumpy a couple days after contracting covid himself made his Secret Service staff sit in a car with him? Idiocy writ large.

As to the election—I think it was rigged by the likes of Musk.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by John Smith on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:41am

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.


The old boy does have a point, despicable. His DL's offered to buy Greenland. If Denmark doesn't want to sell, they can accept his jolly invasion.

Art of the deal, no? Do you know what the old boy is?

He's a patriot. National sovereignty, innit. He loves his jolly motherland.

Hates Mette, loves Uncle.

Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, ja?


I'm sure Frank will have no problem with the rapist taking land away from his mother country, even if a few Danes get shot.

Wank on, you two losers.
That's all you have.



the real loser is the one pretending the link in the OP doesn't mention invasion. :D :D :D

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:43am

John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:41am:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.


The old boy does have a point, despicable. His DL's offered to buy Greenland. If Denmark doesn't want to sell, they can accept his jolly invasion.

Art of the deal, no? Do you know what the old boy is?

He's a patriot. National sovereignty, innit. He loves his jolly motherland.

Hates Mette, loves Uncle.

Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, ja?


I'm sure Frank will have no problem with the rapist taking land away from his mother country, even if a few Danes get shot.

Wank on, you two losers.
That's all you have.



the real loser is the one pretending the link in the OP doesn't mention invasion. :D :D :D

It actually does not mention 'invasion', thicko as mince-o.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by John Smith on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:46am

Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:41am:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.


The old boy does have a point, despicable. His DL's offered to buy Greenland. If Denmark doesn't want to sell, they can accept his jolly invasion.

Art of the deal, no? Do you know what the old boy is?

He's a patriot. National sovereignty, innit. He loves his jolly motherland.

Hates Mette, loves Uncle.

Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, ja?


I'm sure Frank will have no problem with the rapist taking land away from his mother country, even if a few Danes get shot.

Wank on, you two losers.
That's all you have.



the real loser is the one pretending the link in the OP doesn't mention invasion. :D :D :D

It actually does not mention 'invasion', thicko as mince-o.


it mentions military force. You can pretend that means he's waiting for an invitation to high tea if you like. You never did do well with reality anyway.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 9th, 2025 at 8:14am
Why not just arrange to buy or lease land for some US bases in Greenland?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 9th, 2025 at 8:15am

Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:41am:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.


The old boy does have a point, despicable. His DL's offered to buy Greenland. If Denmark doesn't want to sell, they can accept his jolly invasion.

Art of the deal, no? Do you know what the old boy is?

He's a patriot. National sovereignty, innit. He loves his jolly motherland.

Hates Mette, loves Uncle.

Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, ja?


I'm sure Frank will have no problem with the rapist taking land away from his mother country, even if a few Danes get shot.

Wank on, you two losers.
That's all you have.



the real loser is the one pretending the link in the OP doesn't mention invasion. :D :D :D

It actually does not mention 'invasion', thicko as mince-o.


Ah, semantics.

"invasion: an instance of invading a country or region with an armed force."

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

Are the military armed?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 9th, 2025 at 10:37am
German and EU leaders remind Trump of sovereign borders as president-elect says US 'needs Greenland' >:(

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:03pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:52am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:38am:
We all know Trumpy is a disgusting human being. He did commit at least one rape.

His presidency will be a disaster again. I pray and hope he dies before human to human H5N1 avian flu causes a second, and worse, pandemic.



Have you got a link to how we all know that

I thought he recently won an election


Is that the criteria now? Winning elections?

Strange. Right after Sleepy Joe won, you complained about chodes - deplorables who shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Changed your mind?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 8:15am:

Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:41am:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.


The old boy does have a point, despicable. His DL's offered to buy Greenland. If Denmark doesn't want to sell, they can accept his jolly invasion.

Art of the deal, no? Do you know what the old boy is?

He's a patriot. National sovereignty, innit. He loves his jolly motherland.

Hates Mette, loves Uncle.

Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, ja?


I'm sure Frank will have no problem with the rapist taking land away from his mother country, even if a few Danes get shot.

Wank on, you two losers.
That's all you have.



the real loser is the one pretending the link in the OP doesn't mention invasion. :D :D :D

It actually does not mention 'invasion', thicko as mince-o.


Ah, semantics.

"invasion: an instance of invading a country or region with an armed force."

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

Are the military armed?

I'm curious.

Trump never said anything about invasion, military or otherwise.
CNN 'interpreted' what he said - or didnt say - as military invasion. And you mongs just parrot that, as you parroted every other misrepresentation of what he actually said. The America board if full of your breathless lies of this kind.


Anyway, America bought Luisiana from the French and Alaska from the Russians. So it's not a novel idea.

Now off you ****.




Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:40pm

Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 8:15am:

Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:41am:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 8:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:02pm:
OP


wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in  [size=24]buyingGreenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

Are you now blind, not just creepy stupid?


It seems you are the blind (and deaf) one, old boy.

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

The thread heading is about Greenland
The ABC link in the OP is about buying Greenland.

That is what I pointed out.

Off you ****.


The old boy does have a point, despicable. His DL's offered to buy Greenland. If Denmark doesn't want to sell, they can accept his jolly invasion.

Art of the deal, no? Do you know what the old boy is?

He's a patriot. National sovereignty, innit. He loves his jolly motherland.

Hates Mette, loves Uncle.

Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, ja?


I'm sure Frank will have no problem with the rapist taking land away from his mother country, even if a few Danes get shot.

Wank on, you two losers.
That's all you have.



the real loser is the one pretending the link in the OP doesn't mention invasion. :D :D :D

It actually does not mention 'invasion', thicko as mince-o.


Ah, semantics.

"invasion: an instance of invading a country or region with an armed force."

"Donald Trump has refused to rule out using military force to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bLKef5yIU

Are the military armed?

I'm curious.

Trump never said anything about invasion, military or otherwise.


Trump told reporters during a press conference at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida that he wouldn't rule out military force.

Reporter: "Mr Trump, will you rule out exercising military or economic coercion?"

Rapist: "I can't assure you, you're talking about Panama and Greenland. No, I can't assure you on either of those two. But I can say this — we need them for economic security."

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:46pm

Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:28pm:
Anyway, America bought Luisiana from the French and Alaska from the Russians. So it's not a novel idea.


Oh, dear boy.

I can assure you that nobody - and I mean absolutely nobody - is accusing the rapist of having an original thought.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by John Smith on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:59pm

Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:28pm:
Trump never said anything about invasion, military or otherwise.



you really are stupid beyond compare you know that ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 9th, 2025 at 3:24pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:59pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:28pm:
Trump never said anything about invasion, military or otherwise.



you really are stupid beyond compare you know that ::)


It's too painful for him to accept, John.

After all these years of telling themselves that the rapist is anti-war, the MAGA nuts now have to face the reality that he's threatening military force in Greenland, Panama and the Middle East.

Trump told reporters during a press conference at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida that he wouldn't rule out military force.

Reporter: "Mr Trump, will you rule out exercising military or economic coercion?"

Rapist: "I can't assure you, you're talking about Panama and Greenland. No, I can't assure you on either of those two. But I can say this — we need them for economic security."

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 9th, 2025 at 3:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:59pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:28pm:
Trump never said anything about invasion, military or otherwise.



you really are stupid beyond compare you know that ::)


It's too painful for him to accept, John.

After all these years of telling themselves that the rapist is anti-war, the MAGA nuts now have to face the reality that he's threatening military force in Greenland, Panama and the Middle East.

Trump told reporters during a press conference at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida that he wouldn't rule out military force.

Reporter: "Mr Trump, will you rule out exercising military or economic coercion?"

Rapist: "I can't assure you, you're talking about Panama and Greenland. No, I can't assure you on either of those two. But I can say this — we need them for economic security."


So no mention of military invasion.



Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by lee on Jan 9th, 2025 at 4:05pm
Shades of Harry S Truman. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by John Smith on Jan 9th, 2025 at 4:09pm

Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 3:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:59pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:28pm:
Trump never said anything about invasion, military or otherwise.



you really are stupid beyond compare you know that ::)


It's too painful for him to accept, John.

After all these years of telling themselves that the rapist is anti-war, the MAGA nuts now have to face the reality that he's threatening military force in Greenland, Panama and the Middle East.

Trump told reporters during a press conference at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida that he wouldn't rule out military force.

Reporter: "Mr Trump, will you rule out exercising military or economic coercion?"

Rapist: "I can't assure you, you're talking about Panama and Greenland. No, I can't assure you on either of those two. But I can say this — we need them for economic security."


So no mention of military invasion.


do you think the military waves pom poms? :D :D

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 9th, 2025 at 4:12pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 4:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 3:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:59pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:28pm:
Trump never said anything about invasion, military or otherwise.



you really are stupid beyond compare you know that ::)


It's too painful for him to accept, John.

After all these years of telling themselves that the rapist is anti-war, the MAGA nuts now have to face the reality that he's threatening military force in Greenland, Panama and the Middle East.

Trump told reporters during a press conference at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida that he wouldn't rule out military force.

Reporter: "Mr Trump, will you rule out exercising military or economic coercion?"

Rapist: "I can't assure you, you're talking about Panama and Greenland. No, I can't assure you on either of those two. But I can say this — we need them for economic security."


So no mention of military invasion.


do you think the military waves pom poms? :D :D


"Coercion"

I guess the military will just throw balloons filled with water or something.

;D

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 9th, 2025 at 4:48pm

Greenland is 1/3rd the size of Australia and it only has 57,000 people.

It's mostly an uninhabitable ice sheet.

https://datacommons.org/place/country/GRL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 9th, 2025 at 5:03pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 4:48pm:
Greenland is 1/3rd the size of Australia ...


So is Trump.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:59pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:28pm:
Trump never said anything about invasion, military or otherwise.



you really are stupid beyond compare you know that ::)


It's too painful for him to accept, John.

After all these years of telling themselves that the rapist is anti-war, the MAGA nuts now have to face the reality that he's threatening military force in Greenland, Panama and the Middle East.

Trump told reporters during a press conference at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida that he wouldn't rule out military force.

Reporter: "Mr Trump, will you rule out exercising military or economic coercion?"

Rapist: "I can't assure you, you're talking about Panama and Greenland. No, I can't assure you on either of those two. But I can say this — we need them for economic security."


So he's planning a war. No worries, you get that. He is the Commander in Chief, after all.

I mean, what kind of president elect would refuse to rule out invasions if he didn't have a plan up his sleeve?

The only thing we need to know now is the timeline. Greenland, Panama and Iran are first up, shurely.

One thing I can tell you, the old boy will cheer on louder than he did during the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.

VENGEANCE !!!

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:28pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:59pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:28pm:
Trump never said anything about invasion, military or otherwise.



you really are stupid beyond compare you know that ::)


It's too painful for him to accept, John.

After all these years of telling themselves that the rapist is anti-war, the MAGA nuts now have to face the reality that he's threatening military force in Greenland, Panama and the Middle East.

Trump told reporters during a press conference at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida that he wouldn't rule out military force.

Reporter: "Mr Trump, will you rule out exercising military or economic coercion?"

Rapist: "I can't assure you, you're talking about Panama and Greenland. No, I can't assure you on either of those two. But I can say this — we need them for economic security."


So he's planning a war. No worries, you get that. He is the Commander in Chief, after all.

I mean, what kind of president elect would refuse to rule out invasions if he didn't have a plan up his sleeve?

The only thing we need to know now is the timeline. Greenland, Panama and Iran are first up, shurely.

One thing I can tell you, the old boy will cheer on louder than he did during the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.

VENGEANCE !!!


Indeed he will.

He won't call them 'invasions', though.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:32pm

Quote:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenland by force if needed, Panama force if needed, Canada (economic sanctions) Whoever else.


Just insane Trump playing real estate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA2ZJYW2FeM

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 9th, 2025 at 8:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:59pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 2:28pm:
Trump never said anything about invasion, military or otherwise.



you really are stupid beyond compare you know that ::)


It's too painful for him to accept, John.

After all these years of telling themselves that the rapist is anti-war, the MAGA nuts now have to face the reality that he's threatening military force in Greenland, Panama and the Middle East.

Trump told reporters during a press conference at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida that he wouldn't rule out military force.

Reporter: "Mr Trump, will you rule out exercising military or economic coercion?"

Rapist: "I can't assure you, you're talking about Panama and Greenland. No, I can't assure you on either of those two. But I can say this — we need them for economic security."


So he's planning a war. No worries, you get that. He is the Commander in Chief, after all.

I mean, what kind of president elect would refuse to rule out invasions if he didn't have a plan up his sleeve?

The only thing we need to know now is the timeline. Greenland, Panama and Iran are first up, shurely.

One thing I can tell you, the old boy will cheer on louder than he did during the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.

VENGEANCE !!!


Indeed he will.

He won't call them 'invasions', though.


Oh, ja. US national security, innit. The old boy's a real fan.

Invade Greenland, Panama, Canada. Sheesh, march into wonderful wonderful Copenhagen if you like.

Mission accomplished.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jasin on Jan 9th, 2025 at 8:14pm
Trump's letting Russia know with Greenland and China know with Panama that he's going to take their advantage off them.
Trump is tough, unlike that bumbling paedophile for homo rights Biden.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 9th, 2025 at 8:30pm
In 2021 Trump slithered out of office is shame, in this term he more likely leaves office in a long narrow Box.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 9th, 2025 at 8:37pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 8:30pm:
In 2021 Trump slithered out of office is shame, in this term he more likely leaves office in a long narrow Box.


We can only hope. This year would be good. Box won’t be that narrow and will be lead lined.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Jan 10th, 2025 at 4:44am


"The Greenland subsoil contains a variety of valuable minerals, rare earth metals, precious metals, precious stones, coal, graphite and uranium. Greenland has been a mining nation since the late 1700’s, where coal was excavated in Qaarsut on the Nuussauq Peninsula.

In addition to coal, a mining has included gold, silver, copper, lead, zinc, graphite, olivine, cryolite and marble.

A number of mines have closed in recent years, including the Seqi olivine mine near Maniitsoq, which was shut down in 2011, and the Nalunaq gold mine near Nanortalik, which was decommissioned in 2013.

However, new mining projects have been launched, including a ruby mine near Qeqertarsuatsiaat (Fiskenæsset). An application is expected to be filed for a mine to exploit rare earth elements and uranium at Kuannersuit (Kvanefjeld).
.....
Assessments suggest there is a huge potential for oil exploitation in the waters off Greenland. To gain a better insight into the geological conditions, international oil companies employ seismic surveys and exploratory drilling within their assigned offshore license areas. Similar investigations are also underway on land (onshore), for example, on the Nuussuaq Peninsula, where the discovery of oil seeps in the nineties sparked an interest for further studies.
....
In October 2013, the Parliament of Greenland, Inatsisartut, officially changed its mining policy and opened up for extraction of uranium and other radioactive minerals in Greenland. This means that mining companies can now submit applications to exploit radioactive minerals in Greenland’s subsoil.
...."
https://natur.gl/guidance/miljoe/?lang=en

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Marla on Jan 10th, 2025 at 5:21am
Wait until orange FATTY takes over RuZZia

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 10th, 2025 at 5:24am

Marla wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 5:21am:
Wait until orange FATTY takes over RuZZia



Marla -
why is your picture now a retarded kid?



Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Jan 10th, 2025 at 5:34am

Marla wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 5:21am:
Wait until orange FATTY takes over RuZZia


We are looking forward to it.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by John Smith on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:36am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 5:24am:
Marla -
why is your picture now a retarded kid?



she's trying to support you Goober

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:41am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

That's what you get for electing a violent rapist convicted of 34 felonies.


Bobbi is suspiciously quiet.

I thought Trump was anti-war..?




Maybe it's part of a secret deal with Putin?  -

'you have a few parts of Ukraine and we'll take Greenland.'


I think it's more plausible that he thinks it will be easy to build a golf course there because it's already green, but because he's incredibly stupid he doesn't realise that 80% of the land is covered in ice and snow.

He probably thinks that Iceland.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by John Smith on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:48am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:41am:
I think it's more plausible that he thinks it will be easy to build a golf course there because it's already green, but because he's incredibly stupid he doesn't realise that 80% of the land is covered in ice and snow.

He probably thinks that Iceland.


I know you are joking but I actually think there's an element of truth to that

John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:36am:
he thinks its green and wants to build a golf course? :D


;D ;D

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:53am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

That's what you get for electing a violent rapist convicted of 34 felonies.


Bobbi is suspiciously quiet.

I thought Trump was anti-war..?




Maybe it's part of a secret deal with Putin?  -

'you have a few parts of Ukraine and we'll take Greenland.'


I think it's more plausible that he thinks it will be easy to build a golf course there because it's already green, but because he's incredibly stupid he doesn't realise that 80% of the land is covered in ice and snow.

He probably thinks that Iceland.



Everyone knows it's mostly an uninhabitable ice sheet.   ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:34am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

That's what you get for electing a violent rapist convicted of 34 felonies.


Bobbi is suspiciously quiet.

I thought Trump was anti-war..?




Maybe it's part of a secret deal with Putin?  -

'you have a few parts of Ukraine and we'll take Greenland.'


I think it's more plausible that he thinks it will be easy to build a golf course there because it's already green, but because he's incredibly stupid he doesn't realise that 80% of the land is covered in ice and snow.

He probably thinks that Iceland.


According to Tillerson, DL did indeed think it was Iceland.

An easy mishtake to make, no?

National security, innit. Uncle's in safe hands now, dear.

We will make Iceland great again, ja?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:44am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:53am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

That's what you get for electing a violent rapist convicted of 34 felonies.


Bobbi is suspiciously quiet.

I thought Trump was anti-war..?




Maybe it's part of a secret deal with Putin?  -

'you have a few parts of Ukraine and we'll take Greenland.'


I think it's more plausible that he thinks it will be easy to build a golf course there because it's already green, but because he's incredibly stupid he doesn't realise that 80% of the land is covered in ice and snow.

He probably thinks that Iceland.



Everyone knows it's mostly an uninhabitable ice sheet.   ::)


Donnie's sent Junior over to do his bidding, Bobi.

https://www.rcinet.ca/eye-on-the-arctic/2025/01/07/donald-trump-jr-in-greenland-with-message-from-dad-were-going-to-treat-you-well/

Don Jnr's described here as a businessman. Alas, New York have banned him from doing business for three years, so he's been getting a bit bored.

Good thing Dad found him something to do, eh?

The big fella only selects the best and the brightest.

Remember, when other countries send in their people, they're not sending you. They're rapists, murderers, they bring in drugs and some, I assume, are good people.

You.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:08am

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:44am:
Donnie's sent Junior over to do his bidding, Bobi.

https://www.rcinet.ca/eye-on-the-arctic/2025/01/07/donald-trump-jr-in-greenland-with-message-from-dad-were-going-to-treat-you-well/

Don Jnr's described here as a businessman. Alas, New York have banned him from doing business for three years, so he's been getting a bit bored.

Good thing Dad found him something to do, eh?

The big fella only selects the best and the brightest.

Remember, when other countries send in their people, they're not sending you. They're rapists, murderers, they bring in drugs and some, I assume, are good people.

You.



And when you're a star they let you do it,
you can do anything,
invade their country,
grab them ...

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:11am
The “Green”in Greenland was a case of false advertising. Nobody would follow him to an icy land.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by chimera on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:15am
Great Britain is the enlarged Britain containing Wales and Scotland. No-one says 'Great US', and it's over-due.  Canada and Greenland are really, really big on the map like Russia is, which is a shame. US with those two big pieces will out-do the English, the Nazi Reich and Putin. MAGA.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 10th, 2025 at 12:47pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:08am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:44am:
Donnie's sent Junior over to do his bidding, Bobi.

https://www.rcinet.ca/eye-on-the-arctic/2025/01/07/donald-trump-jr-in-greenland-with-message-from-dad-were-going-to-treat-you-well/

Don Jnr's described here as a businessman. Alas, New York have banned him from doing business for three years, so he's been getting a bit bored.

Good thing Dad found him something to do, eh?

The big fella only selects the best and the brightest.

Remember, when other countries send in their people, they're not sending you. They're rapists, murderers, they bring in drugs and some, I assume, are good people.

You.



And when you're a star they let you do it,
you can do anything,
invade their country,
grab them ...


Unfortunately not, Bobi. Denmark, Panama and Canada have all expressed their views on invading their countries, but I'm curious.

Given your previously expressed aversion to endless wars and various human rights violations over in Gaza, what's your latest position on Uncle sending in the drones?

Have you got a meme for that?


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Tap on Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:05pm
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Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by lee on Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:20pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:11am:
The “Green”in Greenland was a case of false advertising. Nobody would follow him to an icy land.



So you mean those folks dug out the permafrost to bury their dead? With spades? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And they didn't grow crops?


"Vikings grew barley in Greenland"

https://www.sciencenordic.com/agriculture-archaeology-denmark/vikings-grew-barley-in-greenland/1447746

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 10th, 2025 at 2:29pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 12:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:08am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:44am:
Donnie's sent Junior over to do his bidding, Bobi.

https://www.rcinet.ca/eye-on-the-arctic/2025/01/07/donald-trump-jr-in-greenland-with-message-from-dad-were-going-to-treat-you-well/

Don Jnr's described here as a businessman. Alas, New York have banned him from doing business for three years, so he's been getting a bit bored.

Good thing Dad found him something to do, eh?

The big fella only selects the best and the brightest.

Remember, when other countries send in their people, they're not sending you. They're rapists, murderers, they bring in drugs and some, I assume, are good people.

You.



And when you're a star they let you do it,
you can do anything,
invade their country,
grab them ...


Unfortunately not, Bobi. Denmark, Panama and Canada have all expressed their views on invading their countries, but I'm curious.

Given your previously expressed aversion to endless wars and various human rights violations over in Gaza, what's your latest position on Uncle sending in the drones?

Have you got a meme for that?



It's all part of some kind of deal he's cooking up.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 10th, 2025 at 2:56pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:11am:
The “Green”in Greenland was a case of false advertising. Nobody would follow him to an icy land.


Oh, I don't know about that, Monk. The old boy has already offered to keep the home fires burning.

He says he likes Danish. I'm not so sure.

Frank's just a garden-variety wog who follows his orders and does what he's told. The old boy keeps his belt buckle and his boots shined just so. When the time comes, he'll bleat away and bang on as ordered. If it means hating Danish, he'll do that too.

SEND THEM BACK !!!

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:01pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 2:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 12:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:08am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:44am:
Donnie's sent Junior over to do his bidding, Bobi.

https://www.rcinet.ca/eye-on-the-arctic/2025/01/07/donald-trump-jr-in-greenland-with-message-from-dad-were-going-to-treat-you-well/

Don Jnr's described here as a businessman. Alas, New York have banned him from doing business for three years, so he's been getting a bit bored.

Good thing Dad found him something to do, eh?

The big fella only selects the best and the brightest.

Remember, when other countries send in their people, they're not sending you. They're rapists, murderers, they bring in drugs and some, I assume, are good people.

You.



And when you're a star they let you do it,
you can do anything,
invade their country,
grab them ...


Unfortunately not, Bobi. Denmark, Panama and Canada have all expressed their views on invading their countries, but I'm curious.

Given your previously expressed aversion to endless wars and various human rights violations over in Gaza, what's your latest position on Uncle sending in the drones?

Have you got a meme for that?



It's all part of some kind of deal he's cooking up.



I see. So you're saying it's a lie, are you?

Well, I'm curious. If some brainwashed cult worshipper's able to work that out, what do you think the diplomats and officials are saying over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:29pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:01pm:
I see. So you're saying it's a lie, are you?

Well, I'm curious. If some brainwashed cult worshipper's able to work that out, what do you think the diplomats and officials are saying over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen?



Patience my son patience.

You will find out soon enough.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 10th, 2025 at 4:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:01pm:
I see. So you're saying it's a lie, are you?

Well, I'm curious. If some brainwashed cult worshipper's able to work that out, what do you think the diplomats and officials are saying over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen?



Patience my son patience.

You will find out soon enough.


No no, that's not the question you were asked.

We said, so you're saying it's a lie, are you?

Well, we're still curious. If some brainwashed cult worshipper's able to work that out, what do you think the diplomats and officials are saying over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen?

If you're too scared to answer, just say. We'll get FD to put you back on the jellyfish list.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:09pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 2:56pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:11am:
The “Green”in Greenland was a case of false advertising. Nobody would follow him to an icy land.


Oh, I don't know about that, Monk. The old boy has already offered to keep the home fires burning.

He says he likes Danish. I'm not so sure.

Frank's just a garden-variety wog who follows his orders and does what he's told. The old boy keeps his belt buckle and his boots shined just so. When the time comes, he'll bleat away and bang on as ordered. If it means hating Danish, he'll do that too.

SEND THEM BACK !!!

Who is giving me orders, paki?

Please explain.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:13pm

Quote:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenland


What can you expect when a crazy illegitimate president is elected.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:18pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:13pm:

Quote:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenland


What can you expect when a crazy illegitimate president is elected.

Duckshit- and you have it by the shitload, fowl duckwit.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:21pm

Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:13pm:

Quote:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenland


What can you expect when a crazy illegitimate president is elected.

Duckshit- and you have it by the shitload, fowl duckwit.


Crazy Convict Trump - wants Greenland - and will use force if needed,  That's insane.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 10th, 2025 at 8:23pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 4:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:01pm:
I see. So you're saying it's a lie, are you?

Well, I'm curious. If some brainwashed cult worshipper's able to work that out, what do you think the diplomats and officials are saying over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen?



Patience my son patience.

You will find out soon enough.


No no, that's not the question you were asked.

We said, so you're saying it's a lie, are you?

Well, we're still curious. If some brainwashed cult worshipper's able to work that out, what do you think the diplomats and officials are saying over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen?

If you're too scared to answer, just say. We'll get FD to put you back on the jellyfish list.



The Danes are saying Greenland is not for sale and
they will fight to the last man - the last bullet.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Leroy on Jan 10th, 2025 at 8:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 8:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 4:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:01pm:
I see. So you're saying it's a lie, are you?

Well, I'm curious. If some brainwashed cult worshipper's able to work that out, what do you think the diplomats and officials are saying over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen?



Patience my son patience.

You will find out soon enough.


No no, that's not the question you were asked.

We said, so you're saying it's a lie, are you?

Well, we're still curious. If some brainwashed cult worshipper's able to work that out, what do you think the diplomats and officials are saying over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen?

If you're too scared to answer, just say. We'll get FD to put you back on the jellyfish list.



The Danes are saying Greenland is not for sale and
they will fight to the last man - the last bullet.


Surely Denmark have ruled out using the military.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 10th, 2025 at 9:04pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 8:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 8:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 4:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:01pm:
I see. So you're saying it's a lie, are you?

Well, I'm curious. If some brainwashed cult worshipper's able to work that out, what do you think the diplomats and officials are saying over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen?



Patience my son patience.

You will find out soon enough.


No no, that's not the question you were asked.

We said, so you're saying it's a lie, are you?

Well, we're still curious. If some brainwashed cult worshipper's able to work that out, what do you think the diplomats and officials are saying over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen?

If you're too scared to answer, just say. We'll get FD to put you back on the jellyfish list.



The Danes are saying Greenland is not for sale and
they will fight to the last man - the last bullet.


Surely Denmark have ruled out using the military.



It's going to be difficult for them as only a small town trying
to fight the US military.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 10th, 2025 at 9:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 8:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 4:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:01pm:
I see. So you're saying it's a lie, are you?

Well, I'm curious. If some brainwashed cult worshipper's able to work that out, what do you think the diplomats and officials are saying over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen?



Patience my son patience.

You will find out soon enough.


No no, that's not the question you were asked.

We said, so you're saying it's a lie, are you?

Well, we're still curious. If some brainwashed cult worshipper's able to work that out, what do you think the diplomats and officials are saying over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen?

If you're too scared to answer, just say. We'll get FD to put you back on the jellyfish list.



The Danes are saying Greenland is not for sale and
they will fight to the last man - the last bullet.


Not the wog. He's promising to roll over and have his tummy tickled.

You?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 10th, 2025 at 9:41pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 9:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 8:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 4:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:01pm:
I see. So you're saying it's a lie, are you?

Well, I'm curious. If some brainwashed cult worshipper's able to work that out, what do you think the diplomats and officials are saying over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen?



Patience my son patience.

You will find out soon enough.


No no, that's not the question you were asked.

We said, so you're saying it's a lie, are you?

Well, we're still curious. If some brainwashed cult worshipper's able to work that out, what do you think the diplomats and officials are saying over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen?

If you're too scared to answer, just say. We'll get FD to put you back on the jellyfish list.



The Danes are saying Greenland is not for sale and
they will fight to the last man - the last bullet.


Not the wog. He's promising to roll over and have his tummy tickled.

You?



Get your popcorn ready - put your seat belt on.  Phew.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:05am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in buying Greenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


USA bought Alaska from Russia how did that work out?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:31am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 9:41pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 9:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 8:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 4:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:01pm:
I see. So you're saying it's a lie, are you?

Well, I'm curious. If some brainwashed cult worshipper's able to work that out, what do you think the diplomats and officials are saying over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen?



Patience my son patience.

You will find out soon enough.


No no, that's not the question you were asked.

We said, so you're saying it's a lie, are you?

Well, we're still curious. If some brainwashed cult worshipper's able to work that out, what do you think the diplomats and officials are saying over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen?

If you're too scared to answer, just say. We'll get FD to put you back on the jellyfish list.



The Danes are saying Greenland is not for sale and
they will fight to the last man - the last bullet.


Not the wog. He's promising to roll over and have his tummy tickled.

You?


Get your popcorn ready - put your seat belt on.  Phew.


You really don't want to say, do you?

What do you plan to say when your DL starts his endless war?

Would you like Vlad to make something up?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:40am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:05am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:33am:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest in buying Greenland. Here's why he wants the island ::) ::)


USA bought Alaska from Russia how did that work out?


Now that depends. It also bought Florida, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Manhattan and a whole bunch of land it swapped for beads and blankets.

In fact, apart from a handful of states it seized in a revolution, it's pretty hard to find much land USA didn't buy.

In for a penny in for a pound, no?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:30am
Alaska was a deal between a willing seller and a willing buyer. Not comparable to Greenland at all, especially as the US military probably only wants some bases that would likely be granted to them if they asked.

The US has air force, space force and naval bases in Greenland already. I guess Trumpy just has a drug damaged, ageing brain.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by chimera on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:56am
It's not easy being messiah, saving the world and its swamps.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-11/trump-waters-down-ukraine-peace-deal-commitment/104806454

24 hours, a bit longer, months, you know...

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:01am
Trumpy is a lunatic.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:48am

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:30am:
Alaska was a deal between a willing seller and a willing buyer. Not comparable to Greenland at all, especially as the US military probably only wants some bases that would likely be granted to them if they asked.

The US has air force, space force and naval bases in Greenland already. I guess Trumpy just has a drug damaged, ageing brain.


Ah. I think you've got it.

Elon wants a base to launch satellites.

The big fella has a damaged brain alright, but first things first.

You have to take care of the billionaire elites you're funded to serve.

DEEP STATE !!!

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:56am

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:48am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:30am:
Alaska was a deal between a willing seller and a willing buyer. Not comparable to Greenland at all, especially as the US military probably only wants some bases that would likely be granted to them if they asked.

The US has air force, space force and naval bases in Greenland already. I guess Trumpy just has a drug damaged, ageing brain.


Ah. I think you've got it.

Elon wants a base to launch satellites.

The big fella has a damaged brain alright, but first things first.

You have to take care of the billionaire elites you're funded to serve.

DEEP STATE !!!



Greenland wants to be invaded by Trump -

he's a star so they'll let him do it.




Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:36pm


::) ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by lee on Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:53pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:21pm:
Crazy Convict Trump - wants Greenland - and will use force if needed,  That's insane.


Really. Which of your favourite sites said that?

"Trump determined to take control of Greenland, though not by force – Reuters"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-determined-control-greenland-though-085446934.html

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by chimera on Jan 11th, 2025 at 2:03pm
Your site quotes 'associates' of Trump.
ABC news on Panama and Greenland: "When asked if he would rule out the use of the military, Trump said: "I'm not going to commit to that."
"It might be that you'll have to do something. The Panama Canal is vital to our country," he said.'

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by lee on Jan 11th, 2025 at 2:06pm

chimera wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 2:03pm:
ABC news on Panama and Greenland: "When asked if he would rule out the use of the military, Trump said: "I'm not going to commit to that."


So did he actually say that about Greenland or Panama or was it both? ::)

"The Panama Canal is vital to our country". Sounds like Panama Only.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 11th, 2025 at 2:21pm

lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 2:06pm:

chimera wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 2:03pm:
ABC news on Panama and Greenland: "When asked if he would rule out the use of the military, Trump said: "I'm not going to commit to that."


So did he actually say that about Greenland or Panama or was it both? ::)

"The Panama Canal is vital to our country". Sounds like Panama Only.


Both.

Asked at a press conference at his Florida resort whether he could assure the world he would not use military or economic coercion as he tries to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland, Trump said, "No, I can't assure you on either of those two. But I can say this, we need them for economic security."

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 11th, 2025 at 2:42pm

lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:53pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:21pm:
Crazy Convict Trump - wants Greenland - and will use force if needed,  That's insane.


Really. Which of your favourite sites said that?

"Trump determined to take control of Greenland, though not by force – Reuters"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-determined-control-greenland-though-085446934.html


From your link:

"A person familiar with internal discussions with Trump told Reuters that the former property developer is unlikely to resort to military force in acquiring control of Greenland."

Someone, who knows somebody who talks to Trump, told somebody else that it's unlikely   ::)

Meanwhile, here's Trump himself saying "No, I can't assure you on either of those two."

From the 3 minute mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw-fXvv9-lA

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 11th, 2025 at 2:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 2:42pm:

lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:53pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:21pm:
Crazy Convict Trump - wants Greenland - and will use force if needed,  That's insane.


Really. Which of your favourite sites said that?

"Trump determined to take control of Greenland, though not by force – Reuters"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-determined-control-greenland-though-085446934.html


From your link:

"A person familiar with internal discussions with Trump told Reuters that the former property developer is unlikely to resort to military force in acquiring control of Greenland."

Someone, who knows somebody who talks to Trump, told somebody else that it's unlikely   ::)

Meanwhile, here's Trump himself saying "No, I can't assure you on either of those two."

From the 3 minute mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw-fXvv9-lA


Thanks for this, Greggery. So the US military is now on notice and will be making plans as we speak.

Hail to the Chief, no?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:14pm
Good video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw-fXvv9-lA


Trump has gotta have it.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jasin on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:25pm
It's been a US agenda to take Greenland and Panama long before Trump entered politics. He's just doing his job under advice from the Military.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:28pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:25pm:
It's been a US agenda to take Greenland and Panama long before Trump entered politics. He's just doing his job under advice from the Military.



Trump is not a pansy - he knows what to do.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:30pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:25pm:
It's been a US agenda to take Greenland and Panama long before Trump entered politics. He's just doing his job under advice from the Military.


Nobody is accusing the rapist of having an original thought.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:39pm

Greenland has lots of: oil, gas and rare earth minerals essential for the United States.

Trump can't let Putin get them.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:03pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:39pm:
Greenland has lots of: oil, gas and rare earth minerals essential for the United States.

Trump can't let Putin get them.


Greenland is owned by Denmark, Bobby.  Does Trump want to dissolve NATO?  Does Putin want to go to war with NATO?  Gee, so many hard questions.  You going to answer them or you going to duck and hide the way you usually do.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:30pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:25pm:
It's been a US agenda to take Greenland and Panama long before Trump entered politics. He's just doing his job under advice from the Military.


Nobody is accusing the rapist of having an original thought.


Apparently some previous POTUS have tried to acquire Greenland. No doubt their approach was less public and less offensive than the orange fatty’s. Unlike Alaska—there is a willing buyer but no seller.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:21pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:25pm:
It's been a US agenda to take Greenland and Panama long before Trump entered politics. He's just doing his job under advice from the Military.


No, dear, he's taking advice from the last person he talked to. He'll forget it immediately and move on.

DL never listened to military advice anyway. He's called for his last military chief to be executed for treason, remember?

The one thing cult worshippers ignore is the threat to their own self interest. For all of the Trump/Elon focus on Greenland, the Pacific is being left to Chi-na.

Australia has been left to police the South Pacific all on its own. South East Asian countries are doing deals with China, selling off their real estate and watching the Middle Kingdom quietly expand in influence.  Countries like Laos and Cambodia have become little more than Chinese vassal states.

It won't be long until China makes a serious move on Taiwan - a big deal for a country with a population of 23 mil and 20% of the world's microchip industry.

Forget Panama, China is gaining control over the shipping lanes of the South China Sea. The Panama Canal will always be subject to US influence, the US government doesn't need to own it. The Pacific is another matter entirely: the more the US gets entangled in other areas, the less security we have in Australia.

This has been made clear in the case of Ukraine, which was granted a US/NATO security assurance in 1993, in return for handing its nukes over to Russia. That agreement meant something to Sleepy Joe and Congress, who agreed to chip in for Ukraine's defence after the Russian invasion in 2022.

It means nothing to your DL, erected prez in 2024. He's already signalling Taiwan can go get fucked. I'd suggest the ANZUS treaty means very little to him too.

Australia's interests rely on the post-war order your DL wants to end. He sees global relations as a set of competing military/economic power grabs. We rely on the goodwill and shared interests of integrated economies. Our entire business model relies on it, as has the US for the past 70 years.

We rely on free trade. Trump's election saw our dollar drop significantly, and we're now staring down recession if Chinese development - and exports - don't pick up.

The threat of trade wars and rising tariffs rings alarm bells on the ASX and the RBA. Your DL's agenda is poison to Australian prosperity.

Australia's very existence relies on free trade and travel. Australia's an island. We're an outward-looking nation of immigrants that relies upon foreign trade. We've done so since 1788. We became more so after the reforms of the Hawke/Keating era. We've relied on these things since the British Empire, through to the rise of East Asia. We export primary products - wool, iron ore - and we import manufactured products - clothes, cars, building materials. We even import most of our oil. We keep less than three weeks in refined oil reserves.

We need those Pacific shipping lanes open, safe and secure, just like every other Pacific nation.

So for all your devotion to foreign white nationalism, remember your place. We're Aussies. Your DL is not out for your interests. His brand of competitive global rivalry and insular protectionism is antithetical to your own interests and survival.

In any other time in our history, such subservience to foreign autocrats would render you a traitor. Nazis were rounded up in WWII and communists were kept under watch until the 1990s. Even "papists" were once on the nose.

DL's infiltration of a mainstream party in the US doesn't make him much less dangerous than any other far-right extremist, KKK or Aryan Nation leader. We saw his embrace of the Proud Boys, banned as a terrorist organization in New Zealand, and we saw him direct them to the Capitol on Jan 6. There, the peaceful transfer of power was blocked for the first time in US history.

None of this is in the interest of Australians. We don't want Australia made great again. We're fine just the way we are.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:21pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:39pm:
Greenland has lots of: oil, gas and rare earth minerals essential for the United States.

Trump can't let Putin get them.


Greenland is owned by Denmark, Bobby.  Does Trump want to dissolve NATO?  Does Putin want to go to war with NATO?  Gee, so many hard questions.  You going to answer them or you going to duck and hide the way you usually do.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)



OK let me explain it.

China has put sanctions on rare earth metals which are essential for making neodymium magnets
that are used for electric motors everywhere but importantly in the military.
Other rare earths are used in the electronics industry which would collapse without them.
The modern world cannot function without rare earth metals.

Putin has had sanctions put on him over the war in Ukraine -
as a result Russian gas and oil has been cut off and must be supplied
in some other way or the whole world will got into a recession or even a depression.

Greenland is a vital area for the military security of the free world
and to push against Putin's expansionism.

The small number of people in Greenland - only 56,000 people cannot be
put ahead of the world's prosperity and security.
It has taken someone with balls like Trump to want to do something about it.
If he can't buy it he'll take it by force - you can't blame him.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:39pm:
Greenland has lots of: oil, gas and rare earth minerals essential for the United States.

Trump can't let Putin get them.


Greenland is owned by Denmark, Bobby.  Does Trump want to dissolve NATO?  Does Putin want to go to war with NATO?  Gee, so many hard questions.  You going to answer them or you going to duck and hide the way you usually do.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)



OK let me explain it.

China has put sanctions on rare earth metals which are essential for making neodymium magnets
that are used for electric motors everywhere but importantly in the military.
Other rare earths are used in the electronics industry which would collapse without them.
The modern world cannot function without rare earth metals.

Putin has had sanctions put on him over the war in Ukraine -
as a result Russian gas and oil has been cut off and must be supplied
in some other way or the whole world will got into a recession or even a depression.

Greenland is a vital area for the military security of the free world
and to push against Putin's expansionism.

The small number of people in Greenland - only 56,000 people cannot be
put ahead of the world's prosperity and security.
It has taken someone with balls like Trump to want to do something about it.
If he can't buy it he'll take it by force - you can't blame him.


That's the first post in your own words I've seen in years, dear.

Good show.

Now, do you want to give Brian's question a stab?

Apart from the tsks, the relevant word is NATO.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:31pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:29pm:
That's the first post in your own words I've seen in years, dear.

Good show.

Now, do you want to give Brian's question a stab?

Apart from the tsks, the relevant word is NATO.



Don't worry - NATO will bend over for Trump
or he'll cut off 100s of $billions in aid and assistance.
It's transactional.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by lee on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 2:42pm:
Meanwhile, here's Trump himself saying "No, I can't assure you on either of those two."

From the 3 minute mark:



You mean economic option is now military, and so his comments were merely redundant? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:50pm

lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 2:42pm:
Meanwhile, here's Trump himself saying "No, I can't assure you on either of those two."

From the 3 minute mark:



You mean economic option is now military, ...


Might need to get your hearing checked, lee.

Asked at a press conference at his Florida resort whether he could assure the world he would not use military or economic coercion as he tries to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland, Trump said, "No, I can't assure you on either of those two. But I can say this, we need them for economic security."

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by lee on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:50pm:
Asked at a press conference at his Florida resort whether he could assure the world he would not use military or economic coercion as he tries to gain control of the Panama Canal and Greenland, Trump said, "No, I can't assure you on either of those two.


Oh two countries are now one scenario, one military and one economic. You are too funny. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:33pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:29pm:
That's the first post in your own words I've seen in years, dear.

Good show.

Now, do you want to give Brian's question a stab?

Apart from the tsks, the relevant word is NATO.


Don't worry - NATO will bend over for Trump
or he'll cut off 100s of $billions in aid and assistance.
It's transactional.


So much for NATO existing to defend Europe from Soviet aggression, hey, Bobby?  Now we have to defend against US aggression.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:56pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:39pm:
Greenland has lots of: oil, gas and rare earth minerals essential for the United States.

Trump can't let Putin get them.


Greenland is owned by Denmark, Bobby.  Does Trump want to dissolve NATO?  Does Putin want to go to war with NATO?  Gee, so many hard questions.  You going to answer them or you going to duck and hide the way you usually do.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Actually, Denmark doesn't own Grenland.
Trump doesn't want to dissolve NATO.
Putin doesn't want to go to war with NATO.


Any other questions, duffer?


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:29pm:
That's the first post in your own words I've seen in years, dear.

Good show.

Now, do you want to give Brian's question a stab?

Apart from the tsks, the relevant word is NATO.



Don't worry - NATO will bend over for Trump
or he'll cut off 100s of $billions in aid and assistance.
It's transactional.


That's a threat to cut aid, Bobby, not an invasion.

But I'm curious. What aid would your DL cut?

The US doesn't provide aid and development assistance to NATO countries. Aid to Europe is focused primarily on Ukraine and countries dealing with Russian interference, such as Albania, Georgia, Moldova, North Macedonia and oh - Greenland.

https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/congressional-testimony/may-23-2023-fy-2024-presidents-budget-request-europe

Any attack on a NATO country requires members to intervene. One in, all in.

Do you want to give Brian's question another stab?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:15pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:29pm:
That's the first post in your own words I've seen in years, dear.

Good show.

Now, do you want to give Brian's question a stab?

Apart from the tsks, the relevant word is NATO.


Don't worry - NATO will bend over for Trump
or he'll cut off 100s of $billions in aid and assistance.
It's transactional.


So much for NATO existing to defend Europe from Soviet aggression, hey, Bobby?  Now we have to defend against US aggression.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


Yeah, Trumpy is ta da going to “make peace” between ruzzia and Ukraine while invading little Greenland. Be funny if the invading force stuffed up, landed in the wrong spot etc. How embarrassment if that happened.

Of course, Booby is too stupid to see this—he likes “strong men” tho and thinks Trumpy is one.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:29pm:
That's the first post in your own words I've seen in years, dear.

Good show.

Now, do you want to give Brian's question a stab?

Apart from the tsks, the relevant word is NATO.


Don't worry - NATO will bend over for Trump
or he'll cut off 100s of $billions in aid and assistance.
It's transactional.


So much for NATO existing to defend Europe from Soviet aggression, hey, Bobby?  Now we have to defend against US aggression.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

There is no soviet union, Bbwian.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by lee on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:22pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:13pm:
The US doesn't provide aid and development assistance to NATO countries.


No it only provides funds to NATO. Which is then dispersed.

"Last year, the U.S. contributed 68 percent, which worked out to be 3.49 percent of America's total GDP for $860 billion of the $1.26 trillion NATO spent. "

https://www.newsweek.com/how-much-has-nato-cost-us-over-past-75-years-1886632

So the money given was not aid? Was it then a hindrance? ;)


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:40pm

Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:39pm:
Greenland has lots of: oil, gas and rare earth minerals essential for the United States.

Trump can't let Putin get them.


Greenland is owned by Denmark, Bobby.  Does Trump want to dissolve NATO?  Does Putin want to go to war with NATO?  Gee, so many hard questions.  You going to answer them or you going to duck and hide the way you usually do.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Actually, Denmark doesn't own Grenland.
Trump doesn't want to dissolve NATO.
Putin doesn't want to go to war with NATO.

Any other questions, duffer?



Quote:
Greenland (Greenlandic: Kalaallit Nunaat, pronounced [kalaːɬːit nʉnaːt]; Danish: Grønland, pronounced ˈkʁɶnˌlænˀ) is an autonomous territory[13] of the Kingdom of Denmark.

Source

Seems Wikipedia is more up-to-date than you are, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:44pm

Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:39pm:
Greenland has lots of: oil, gas and rare earth minerals essential for the United States.

Trump can't let Putin get them.


Greenland is owned by Denmark, Bobby.  Does Trump want to dissolve NATO?  Does Putin want to go to war with NATO?  Gee, so many hard questions.  You going to answer them or you going to duck and hide the way you usually do.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Actually, Denmark doesn't own Grenland.


Sure. Grenland is owned by Sweeden.

But who owns Greenland?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:45pm

Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:29pm:
That's the first post in your own words I've seen in years, dear.

Good show.

Now, do you want to give Brian's question a stab?

Apart from the tsks, the relevant word is NATO.


Don't worry - NATO will bend over for Trump
or he'll cut off 100s of $billions in aid and assistance.
It's transactional.


So much for NATO existing to defend Europe from Soviet aggression, hey, Bobby?  Now we have to defend against US aggression.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

There is no soviet union, Bbwian.


Check out 1948. Soren, when NATO was created... Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:59pm

Quote:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenland The panama canal and Canada.


And the whole world is laughing at him.

Absolute Nutter, the guy is a fruit-loop.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Leroy on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:02pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:59pm:

Quote:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenland The panama canal and Canada.


And the whole world is laughing at him.


Are they the same ones who laughed at him for wanting to be president.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:06pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:29pm:
That's the first post in your own words I've seen in years, dear.

Good show.

Now, do you want to give Brian's question a stab?

Apart from the tsks, the relevant word is NATO.



Don't worry - NATO will bend over for Trump
or he'll cut off 100s of $billions in aid and assistance.
It's transactional.


That's a threat to cut aid, Bobby, not an invasion.

But I'm curious. What aid would your DL cut?

The US doesn't provide aid and development assistance to NATO countries. Aid to Europe is focused primarily on Ukraine and countries dealing with Russian interference, such as Albania, Georgia, Moldova, North Macedonia and oh - Greenland.

https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/congressional-testimony/may-23-2023-fy-2024-presidents-budget-request-europe

Any attack on a NATO country requires members to intervene. One in, all in.

Do you want to give Brian's question another stab?



The USA supplies military aid to NATO to stop the aggressive  Putin
and it costs 10s of billions per annum -
already 100s of $billions to help Ukraine which indirectly helps NATO.

You see Trump knows that he's got a hand with 4 Aces in it and
NATO has only 2 pair.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Leroy on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:29pm:
That's the first post in your own words I've seen in years, dear.

Good show.

Now, do you want to give Brian's question a stab?

Apart from the tsks, the relevant word is NATO.



Don't worry - NATO will bend over for Trump
or he'll cut off 100s of $billions in aid and assistance.
It's transactional.


That's a threat to cut aid, Bobby, not an invasion.

But I'm curious. What aid would your DL cut?

The US doesn't provide aid and development assistance to NATO countries. Aid to Europe is focused primarily on Ukraine and countries dealing with Russian interference, such as Albania, Georgia, Moldova, North Macedonia and oh - Greenland.

https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/congressional-testimony/may-23-2023-fy-2024-presidents-budget-request-europe

Any attack on a NATO country requires members to intervene. One in, all in.

Do you want to give Brian's question another stab?



The USA supplies military aid to NATO to stop the aggressive  Putin
and it costs 10s of billions per annum -
already 100s of $billions to help Ukraine which indirectly helps NATO.

You see Trump knows that he's got a hand with 4 Aces in it and
NATO has only 2 pair.


NATO doesn't have one pair, if they did they would have put Russia in its place two weeks into the war.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:16pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:29pm:
That's the first post in your own words I've seen in years, dear.

Good show.

Now, do you want to give Brian's question a stab?

Apart from the tsks, the relevant word is NATO.



Don't worry - NATO will bend over for Trump
or he'll cut off 100s of $billions in aid and assistance.
It's transactional.


That's a threat to cut aid, Bobby, not an invasion.

But I'm curious. What aid would your DL cut?

The US doesn't provide aid and development assistance to NATO countries. Aid to Europe is focused primarily on Ukraine and countries dealing with Russian interference, such as Albania, Georgia, Moldova, North Macedonia and oh - Greenland.

https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/congressional-testimony/may-23-2023-fy-2024-presidents-budget-request-europe

Any attack on a NATO country requires members to intervene. One in, all in.

Do you want to give Brian's question another stab?



The USA supplies military aid to NATO to stop the aggressive  Putin
and it costs 10s of billions per annum -
already 100s of $billions to help Ukraine which indirectly helps NATO.

You see Trump knows that he's got a hand with 4 Aces in it and
NATO has only 2 pair.


Don't be silly, Bobbi.

The rapist couldn't hold four playing cards in those tiny little hands of his.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:22pm
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Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:24pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:29pm:
That's the first post in your own words I've seen in years, dear.

Good show.

Now, do you want to give Brian's question a stab?

Apart from the tsks, the relevant word is NATO.



Don't worry - NATO will bend over for Trump
or he'll cut off 100s of $billions in aid and assistance.
It's transactional.


That's a threat to cut aid, Bobby, not an invasion.

But I'm curious. What aid would your DL cut?

The US doesn't provide aid and development assistance to NATO countries. Aid to Europe is focused primarily on Ukraine and countries dealing with Russian interference, such as Albania, Georgia, Moldova, North Macedonia and oh - Greenland.

https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/congressional-testimony/may-23-2023-fy-2024-presidents-budget-request-europe

Any attack on a NATO country requires members to intervene. One in, all in.

Do you want to give Brian's question another stab?



The USA supplies military aid to NATO to stop the aggressive  Putin
and it costs 10s of billions per annum -
already 100s of $billions to help Ukraine which indirectly helps NATO.

You see Trump knows that he's got a hand with 4 Aces in it and
NATO has only 2 pair.


NATO doesn't have one pair, if they did they would have put Russia in its place two weeks into the war.



Yeah - they've all got the French disease - running like rabbits.

They allowed Europe to be invaded by Africans and Muslims.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:24pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:59pm:

Quote:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenland The panama canal and Canada.


And the whole world is laughing at him.


Are they the same ones who laughed at him for wanting to be president.


They laughed right through his first p1ss poor pretence and likely will just keep going through his illegitimate term as the convict President.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:25pm
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14264573/Trump-Australia-amid-Greenland-bid.html

Bold new push for Donald Trump to seize control of Australia: 'Make Australia Great Again'

Aussie fanbase praises Trump's landgrab plans

Published: 12:37 AEDT, 9 January 2025 | Updated: 13:43 AEDT, 9 January 2025


Donald Trump's fanbase is calling for him to annex Australia as the incoming US president makes wild claims about a planned landgrab.

'I don't wanna give Trump any more ideas, but these guys don't have guns anymore,' said conservative journalist Chadwick Moore in a post to social media on Wednesday, alongside a map of Australia.

It comes after Trump suggested he might use 'economic force' to make Canada the 51st US state, and announced a plan to rename the Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America.

He also refused to rule out using military force or economic coercion to gain control of Greenland and the Panama Canal.

Mr Moore's post on Wednesday received thousands of tongue-in-cheek but supportive comments.

'Make Australia Great Again. Works for me!' said one.

'Are you saying you'd take it by force? No need, we'd sign up,' said another.

'As an Aussie, please take us, we need all the help we can get,' said a third.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Leroy on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:30pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:24pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:59pm:

Quote:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenland The panama canal and Canada.


And the whole world is laughing at him.


Are they the same ones who laughed at him for wanting to be president.


They laughed right through his first p1ss poor pretence and likely will just keep going through his illegitimate term as the convict President.


Until they make the trek to Mar a Largo to kiss the ring.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:33pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:24pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:29pm:
That's the first post in your own words I've seen in years, dear.

Good show.

Now, do you want to give Brian's question a stab?

Apart from the tsks, the relevant word is NATO.


Don't worry - NATO will bend over for Trump
or he'll cut off 100s of $billions in aid and assistance.
It's transactional.


That's a threat to cut aid, Bobby, not an invasion.

But I'm curious. What aid would your DL cut?

The US doesn't provide aid and development assistance to NATO countries. Aid to Europe is focused primarily on Ukraine and countries dealing with Russian interference, such as Albania, Georgia, Moldova, North Macedonia and oh - Greenland.

https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/congressional-testimony/may-23-2023-fy-2024-presidents-budget-request-europe

Any attack on a NATO country requires members to intervene. One in, all in.

Do you want to give Brian's question another stab?


The USA supplies military aid to NATO to stop the aggressive  Putin
and it costs 10s of billions per annum -
already 100s of $billions to help Ukraine which indirectly helps NATO.

You see Trump knows that he's got a hand with 4 Aces in it and
NATO has only 2 pair.


NATO doesn't have one pair, if they did they would have put Russia in its place two weeks into the war.


Yeah - they've all got the French disease - running like rabbits.

They allowed Europe to be invaded by Africans and Muslims.


You seem to think engaging in a war of annihilation would be a good idea, hey, Bobby and yet you claim to be an expert in defence?  Such a silly sausage.   You seem to have forgotten that Putin has a vast nuclear arsenal at his disposal.  What do you think he'd do with it if NATO crossed the border into Russia?  Whistle dixie?  Run along and troll somewhere else.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:33pm:
You seem to think engaging in a war of annihilation would be a good idea, hey, Bobby and yet you claim to be an expect in defence?  Such a silly sausage.   You seem to have forgotten that Putin has a vast nuclear arsenal at his disposal.  What do you think he'd do with it if NATO crossed the border into Russia?  Whistle dixie?  Run along and troll somewhere else.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)



The danger is if Putin says - no -
Russia will not allow you to invade Greenland and sends
Russian troops there to confront the Americans.

That would mean a direct war between Russia and the USA.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:37pm
Putler hardly has a navy and can’t spare troops from Ukraine. That, after all, is the reason Assad fell in Syria.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:42pm

lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:13pm:
The US doesn't provide aid and development assistance to NATO countries.


No it only provides funds to NATO. Which is then dispersed.

"Last year, the U.S. contributed 68 percent, which worked out to be 3.49 percent of America's total GDP for $860 billion of the $1.26 trillion NATO spent. "

https://www.newsweek.com/how-much-has-nato-cost-us-over-past-75-years-1886632

So the money given was not aid? Was it then a hindrance? ;)


No, Lee, but I'm curious. How are those funds "given" to NATO?

Countries' defence budgets are spent on themselves. NATO's running costs, it's common or direct budget, is EUR 4.6 billion (2024).

Of course the US spends more on defence - it chooses to fund the biggest military in the world. The contribution to NATO's running budget, however, is in the above link below.

https://www.nato.int/cps/ro/natohq/topics_67655.htm

You'll note that Germany now pays exactly the same contribution as the US (15.8813%), with France (10.1940%) and the UK (10.9626%) close behind.

Your article listed the 2023 budget for total defence spending. The above figures are for 2024. NATO notes Germany and Poland's increases in spending, a legacy bestowed by Vlad, but committed to a number of years ago.

So no, dear. Providing aid and funding your own military defence are two totally different things.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:46pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:42pm:

lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:13pm:
The US doesn't provide aid and development assistance to NATO countries.


No it only provides funds to NATO. Which is then dispersed.

"Last year, the U.S. contributed 68 percent, which worked out to be 3.49 percent of America's total GDP for $860 billion of the $1.26 trillion NATO spent. "

https://www.newsweek.com/how-much-has-nato-cost-us-over-past-75-years-1886632

So the money given was not aid? Was it then a hindrance? ;)


No, Lee, but I'm curious. How are those funds "given" to NATO?

Countries' defence budgets are spent on themselves. NATO's running costs, it's common or direct budget, is EUR 4.6 billion (2024).

Of course the US spends more on defence - it chooses to fund the biggest military in the world. The contribution to NATO's running budget, however, is in the above link below.

https://www.nato.int/cps/ro/natohq/topics_67655.htm

You'll note that Germany now pays exactly the same contribution as the US (15.8813%), with France (10.1940%) and the UK (10.9626%) close behind.

Your article listed the 2023 budget for total defence spending. The above figures are for 2024. NATO notes Germany and Poland's increases in spending, a legacy bestowed by Vlad, but committed to a number of years ago.

So no, dear. Providing aid and funding your own military defence are two totally different things.



Karnal -  you don't know -

the Yanks even provided and still provide nuclear weapons for Germany
and other countries to dissuade Russia from using them.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Leroy on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:03pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:42pm:

lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:13pm:
The US doesn't provide aid and development assistance to NATO countries.


No it only provides funds to NATO. Which is then dispersed.

"Last year, the U.S. contributed 68 percent, which worked out to be 3.49 percent of America's total GDP for $860 billion of the $1.26 trillion NATO spent. "

https://www.newsweek.com/how-much-has-nato-cost-us-over-past-75-years-1886632

So the money given was not aid? Was it then a hindrance? ;)


No, Lee, but I'm curious. How are those funds "given" to NATO?

Countries' defence budgets are spent on themselves. NATO's running costs, it's common or direct budget, is EUR 4.6 billion (2024).

Of course the US spends more on defence - it chooses to fund the biggest military in the world. The contribution to NATO's running budget, however, is in the above link below.

https://www.nato.int/cps/ro/natohq/topics_67655.htm

You'll note that Germany now pays exactly the same contribution as the US (15.8813%), with France (10.1940%) and the UK (10.9626%) close behind.

Your article listed the 2023 budget for total defence spending. The above figures are for 2024. NATO notes Germany and Poland's increases in spending, a legacy bestowed by Vlad, but committed to a number of years ago.

So no, dear. Providing aid and funding your own military defence are two totally different things.


What caused them to pay more and the US to pay less?.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:24pm
It is unusual for the Illegitimate President to also hold the office of village idiot.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by lee on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:28pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:42pm:
https://www.nato.int/cps/ro/natohq/topics_67655.htm

You'll note that Germany now pays exactly the same contribution as the US (15.8813%), with France (10.1940%) and the UK (10.9626%) close behind.


So the USA is paying for NATO. Thanks for that. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Mortdooley on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:47pm

lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:42pm:
https://www.nato.int/cps/ro/natohq/topics_67655.htm

You'll note that Germany now pays exactly the same contribution as the US (15.8813%), with France (10.1940%) and the UK (10.9626%) close behind.


So the USA is paying for NATO. Thanks for that. ;D ;D ;D ;D



No, the American Tax Payer is paying for NATO and Europe needs to pay us back. NATO will be forced to pay its fair share for the next four years and after that it will be sucking on the tit of America again.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 11th, 2025 at 10:18pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:33pm:
You seem to think engaging in a war of annihilation would be a good idea, hey, Bobby and yet you claim to be an expect in defence?  Such a silly sausage.   You seem to have forgotten that Putin has a vast nuclear arsenal at his disposal.  What do you think he'd do with it if NATO crossed the border into Russia?  Whistle dixie?  Run along and troll somewhere else.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


The danger is if Putin says - no -
Russia will not allow you to invade Greenland and sends
Russian troops there to confront the Americans.

That would mean a direct war between Russia and the USA.


You claimed the Europeans had all caught the "French disease" and that they, "ran like rabbits", Bobby.  Effectively you're saying they are all cowards. Such a stupid comment, its like describing "French fries" as "Freedom fries" just because the French disagree with you.  As I said, Putin has nukes and seems willing to use them if Russia is invaded.  What a great way to obliterate the world.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2025 at 10:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 10:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:33pm:
You seem to think engaging in a war of annihilation would be a good idea, hey, Bobby and yet you claim to be an expect in defence?  Such a silly sausage.   You seem to have forgotten that Putin has a vast nuclear arsenal at his disposal.  What do you think he'd do with it if NATO crossed the border into Russia?  Whistle dixie?  Run along and troll somewhere else.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


The danger is if Putin says - no -
Russia will not allow you to invade Greenland and sends
Russian troops there to confront the Americans.

That would mean a direct war between Russia and the USA.


You claimed the Europeans had all caught the "French disease" and that they, "ran like rabbits", Bobby.  Effectively you're saying they are all cowards. Such a stupid comment, its like describing "French fries" as "Freedom fries" just because the French disagree with you.  As I said, Putin has nukes and seems willing to use them if Russia is invaded.  What a great way to obliterate the world.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)



We can only hope that Putin is too busy in Ukraine to do anything about Greenland.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 11th, 2025 at 10:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 10:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 10:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:33pm:
You seem to think engaging in a war of annihilation would be a good idea, hey, Bobby and yet you claim to be an expect in defence?  Such a silly sausage.   You seem to have forgotten that Putin has a vast nuclear arsenal at his disposal.  What do you think he'd do with it if NATO crossed the border into Russia?  Whistle dixie?  Run along and troll somewhere else.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


The danger is if Putin says - no -
Russia will not allow you to invade Greenland and sends
Russian troops there to confront the Americans.

That would mean a direct war between Russia and the USA.


You claimed the Europeans had all caught the "French disease" and that they, "ran like rabbits", Bobby.  Effectively you're saying they are all cowards. Such a stupid comment, its like describing "French fries" as "Freedom fries" just because the French disagree with you.  As I said, Putin has nukes and seems willing to use them if Russia is invaded.  What a great way to obliterate the world.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


We can only hope that Putin is too busy in Ukraine to anything about Greenland.


Changed your tune, now haven't you, Bobby?  First it was Europeans and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, now it's all about Greenland.  What a wanker.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2025 at 10:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 10:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 10:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 10:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:33pm:
You seem to think engaging in a war of annihilation would be a good idea, hey, Bobby and yet you claim to be an expect in defence?  Such a silly sausage.   You seem to have forgotten that Putin has a vast nuclear arsenal at his disposal.  What do you think he'd do with it if NATO crossed the border into Russia?  Whistle dixie?  Run along and troll somewhere else.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


The danger is if Putin says - no -
Russia will not allow you to invade Greenland and sends
Russian troops there to confront the Americans.

That would mean a direct war between Russia and the USA.


You claimed the Europeans had all caught the "French disease" and that they, "ran like rabbits", Bobby.  Effectively you're saying they are all cowards. Such a stupid comment, its like describing "French fries" as "Freedom fries" just because the French disagree with you.  As I said, Putin has nukes and seems willing to use them if Russia is invaded.  What a great way to obliterate the world.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


We can only hope that Putin is too busy in Ukraine to do anything about Greenland.


Changed your tune, now haven't you, Bobby?  First it was Europeans and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, now it's all about Greenland.  What a wanker.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)



Maybe that was the plan all along?   

Get Greenland via the back door.    ;)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:03pm
Bobby likes to Troll.  He posts bullshit about his Dear Leader all the time.   Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:10pm
Yes, Booby is a troll (and doxxer) and not much more.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 12th, 2025 at 1:27am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:42pm:

lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:13pm:
The US doesn't provide aid and development assistance to NATO countries.


No it only provides funds to NATO. Which is then dispersed.

"Last year, the U.S. contributed 68 percent, which worked out to be 3.49 percent of America's total GDP for $860 billion of the $1.26 trillion NATO spent. "

https://www.newsweek.com/how-much-has-nato-cost-us-over-past-75-years-1886632

So the money given was not aid? Was it then a hindrance? ;)


No, Lee, but I'm curious. How are those funds "given" to NATO?

Countries' defence budgets are spent on themselves. NATO's running costs, it's common or direct budget, is EUR 4.6 billion (2024).

Of course the US spends more on defence - it chooses to fund the biggest military in the world. The contribution to NATO's running budget, however, is in the above link below.

https://www.nato.int/cps/ro/natohq/topics_67655.htm

You'll note that Germany now pays exactly the same contribution as the US (15.8813%), with France (10.1940%) and the UK (10.9626%) close behind.

Your article listed the 2023 budget for total defence spending. The above figures are for 2024. NATO notes Germany and Poland's increases in spending, a legacy bestowed by Vlad, but committed to a number of years ago.

So no, dear. Providing aid and funding your own military defence are two totally different things.



Karnal -  you don't know -

the Yanks even provided and still provide nuclear weapons for Germany
and other countries to dissuade Russia from using them.


Take it up with NATO, Bobi. It's their claim.

You're right, dear. I don't know a thing.

You?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 12th, 2025 at 1:32am

Leroy wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:42pm:

lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:13pm:
The US doesn't provide aid and development assistance to NATO countries.


No it only provides funds to NATO. Which is then dispersed.

"Last year, the U.S. contributed 68 percent, which worked out to be 3.49 percent of America's total GDP for $860 billion of the $1.26 trillion NATO spent. "

https://www.newsweek.com/how-much-has-nato-cost-us-over-past-75-years-1886632

So the money given was not aid? Was it then a hindrance? ;)


No, Lee, but I'm curious. How are those funds "given" to NATO?

Countries' defence budgets are spent on themselves. NATO's running costs, it's common or direct budget, is EUR 4.6 billion (2024).

Of course the US spends more on defence - it chooses to fund the biggest military in the world. The contribution to NATO's running budget, however, is in the above link below.

https://www.nato.int/cps/ro/natohq/topics_67655.htm

You'll note that Germany now pays exactly the same contribution as the US (15.8813%), with France (10.1940%) and the UK (10.9626%) close behind.

Your article listed the 2023 budget for total defence spending. The above figures are for 2024. NATO notes Germany and Poland's increases in spending, a legacy bestowed by Vlad, but committed to a number of years ago.

So no, dear. Providing aid and funding your own military defence are two totally different things.


What caused them to pay more and the US to pay less?.


Hard to say, Leroy. Why don't you do some reearch and get back to us with the results?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 12th, 2025 at 1:35am

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:47pm:

lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:42pm:
https://www.nato.int/cps/ro/natohq/topics_67655.htm

You'll note that Germany now pays exactly the same contribution as the US (15.8813%), with France (10.1940%) and the UK (10.9626%) close behind.


So the USA is paying for NATO. Thanks for that. ;D ;D ;D ;D



No, the American Tax Payer is paying for NATO and Europe needs to pay us back. NATO will be forced to pay its fair share for the next four years and after that it will be sucking on the tit of America again.


European taxpayers are paying more, dear. The US pays just over 13% of NATO's operating costs. Canada pays 6.68%. Who do you think's paying the rest?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:36pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 1:35am:

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:47pm:

lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:42pm:
https://www.nato.int/cps/ro/natohq/topics_67655.htm

You'll note that Germany now pays exactly the same contribution as the US (15.8813%), with France (10.1940%) and the UK (10.9626%) close behind.


So the USA is paying for NATO. Thanks for that. ;D ;D ;D ;D



No, the American Tax Payer is paying for NATO and Europe needs to pay us back. NATO will be forced to pay its fair share for the next four years and after that it will be sucking on the tit of America again.


European taxpayers are paying more, dear. The US pays just over 13% of NATO's operating costs. Canada pays 6.68%. Who do you think's paying the rest?


LONDON (AP) – Europe´s security “is on a knife-edge” and President-elect Donald Trump is right to say NATO member nations must increase military spending, Britain´s top diplomat said Thursday.

Foreign Secretary David Lammy said that “the post-Cold War peace is well and truly over.”

“Donald Trump and JD Vance are simply right when they say that Europe needs to do more to defend its own continent. It´s myopia to pretend otherwise with Russia on the march,” Lammy said during a speech in London setting out the center-left Labour government´s approach to foreign policy, which he termed “progressive realism.”

Lammy said people often ask him when world affairs will get back to normal, and “my answer is that they will not. Europe´s future security is on a knife edge.”

Trump has for years expressed skepticism about NATO, openly questioning the value of the alliance that has defined American foreign policy for decades and threatening not to defend members that fail to meet defense-spending goals.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:48pm

Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:36pm:
“Donald Trump and JD Vance are simply right when they say that ..."


Who?   :-/

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:48pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:36pm:
“Donald Trump and JD Vance are simply right when they say that ..."


Who?   :-/

Focus on the point, despicable turd.


LONDON (AP) – Europe´s security “is on a knife-edge” and President-elect Donald Trump is right to say NATO member nations must increase military spending, Britain´s top diplomat said Thursday.

Foreign Secretary David Lammy said that “the post-Cold War peace is well and truly over.”

“Donald Trump and JD Vance are simply right when they say that Europe needs to do more to defend its own continent. It´s myopia to pretend otherwise with Russia on the march,” Lammy said during a speech in London setting out the center-left Labour government´s approach to foreign policy, which he termed “progressive realism.”

Lammy said people often ask him when world affairs will get back to normal, and “my answer is that they will not. Europe´s future security is on a knife edge.”

Trump has for years expressed skepticism about NATO, openly questioning the value of the alliance that has defined American foreign policy for decades and threatening not to defend members that fail to meet defense-spending goals.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:52pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:03pm:
Bobby likes to Troll.  He posts bullshit about his Dear Leader all the time.   Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)



I post the truth -

let me be your international affairs advisor.
I'm always on the money.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Leroy on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:58pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 1:32am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:03pm:
What caused them to pay more and the US to pay less?.


Hard to say, Leroy. Why don't you do some reearch and get back to us with the results?


It was good work by Trump that made NATO understand that it was not a boys club and they had a responsibility to make sure NATO was prepared for the safety of europe.


Quote:
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg praised President Donald Trump on Thursday for pushing countries in the alliance to boost their defense spending, an issue that has driven a wedge between Trump and Europe before.

“Let me thank you for the leadership you show on the issue of defense spending because it is very important that we all contribute more to our shared security, and it is really having an impact because, as you said, allies are now spending more on defense,” Stoltenberg said while taking reporters’ questions after the leaders met at the White House. “All allies are increasing their defense budgets.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/jens-stoltenberg-donald-trump-nato-chief-thanks-trump-for-leadership-on-military-spending/


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2025 at 1:33pm

Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:48pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:36pm:
“Donald Trump and JD Vance are simply right when they say that ..."


Who?   :-/

Focus on the point, despicable turd.


Musk is President and Trump is his VP.

So who is this JD character?   :-/

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:06pm

Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 1:35am:

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:47pm:

lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:42pm:
https://www.nato.int/cps/ro/natohq/topics_67655.htm

You'll note that Germany now pays exactly the same contribution as the US (15.8813%), with France (10.1940%) and the UK (10.9626%) close behind.


So the USA is paying for NATO. Thanks for that. ;D ;D ;D ;D



No, the American Tax Payer is paying for NATO and Europe needs to pay us back. NATO will be forced to pay its fair share for the next four years and after that it will be sucking on the tit of America again.


European taxpayers are paying more, dear. The US pays just over 13% of NATO's operating costs. Canada pays 6.68%. Who do you think's paying the rest?


LONDON (AP) – Europe´s security “is on a knife-edge” and President-elect Donald Trump is right to say NATO member nations must increase military spending, Britain´s top diplomat said Thursday.

Foreign Secretary David Lammy said that “the post-Cold War peace is well and truly over.”

“Donald Trump and JD Vance are simply right when they say that Europe needs to do more to defend its own continent. It´s myopia to pretend otherwise with Russia on the march,” Lammy said during a speech in London setting out the center-left Labour government´s approach to foreign policy, which he termed “progressive realism.”

Lammy said people often ask him when world affairs will get back to normal, and “my answer is that they will not. Europe´s future security is on a knife edge.”

Trump has for years expressed skepticism about NATO, openly questioning the value of the alliance that has defined American foreign policy for decades and threatening not to defend members that fail to meet defense-spending goals.


We've just proven that your DL has absolutely no idea what he's talking about, old boy. I'm guessing you don't either and just recite his lies.

And that's okay. That's what we now do here. You repeat your lines, and we factcheck them.

Europe already outspends the US on Ukraine - $133 to $91 mil. Should Europe do more?

That's a given. Your DL will be throwing Ukraine to the dogs. Europe's security is indeed on a knife's edge, now on two fronts: Vlad, and your DL.

You used to like Danish. Happy now?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:20pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 1:32am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:03pm:
What caused them to pay more and the US to pay less?.


Hard to say, Leroy. Why don't you do some reearch and get back to us with the results?


It was good work by Trump that made NATO understand that it was not a boys club and they had a responsibility to make sure NATO was prepared for the safety of europe.


Quote:
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg praised President Donald Trump on Thursday for pushing countries in the alliance to boost their defense spending, an issue that has driven a wedge between Trump and Europe before.

“Let me thank you for the leadership you show on the issue of defense spending because it is very important that we all contribute more to our shared security, and it is really having an impact because, as you said, allies are now spending more on defense,” Stoltenberg said while taking reporters’ questions after the leaders met at the White House. “All allies are increasing their defense budgets.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/jens-stoltenberg-donald-trump-nato-chief-thanks-trump-for-leadership-on-military-spending/


Incorrect. The 2% GDP defence spending target was agreed by all NATO members at the NATO summit in Wales in 2014.

Vlad, at the time, was sending little green men into Crimea. There was a timeline, members committed to the timeline, and today, all members are meeting their 2% targets.


Quote:
“Let me thank you for the leadership you show on the issue of defense spending because it is very important that we all contribute more to our shared security, and it is really having an impact because, as you said, allies are now spending more on defense,” Stoltenberg said while taking reporters’ questions after the leaders met at the White House. “All allies are increasing their defense budgets.”

“Do you give me credit for that?” Trump pressed.

“You have helped to do that,” Stoltenberg said.


Jens Stoltenberg is doing her best to respond to a child.

Ever get the feeling?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Leroy on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:27pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:20pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 1:32am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:03pm:
What caused them to pay more and the US to pay less?.


Hard to say, Leroy. Why don't you do some reearch and get back to us with the results?


It was good work by Trump that made NATO understand that it was not a boys club and they had a responsibility to make sure NATO was prepared for the safety of europe.


Quote:
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg praised President Donald Trump on Thursday for pushing countries in the alliance to boost their defense spending, an issue that has driven a wedge between Trump and Europe before.

“Let me thank you for the leadership you show on the issue of defense spending because it is very important that we all contribute more to our shared security, and it is really having an impact because, as you said, allies are now spending more on defense,” Stoltenberg said while taking reporters’ questions after the leaders met at the White House. “All allies are increasing their defense budgets.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/jens-stoltenberg-donald-trump-nato-chief-thanks-trump-for-leadership-on-military-spending/


Incorrect. The 2% GDP defence spending target was agreed by all NATO members at the NATO summit in Wales in 2014.

Vlad, at the time, was sending little green men into Crimea. There was a timeline, members committed to the timeline, and today, all members are meeting their 2% targets.

Jens Stoltenberg is doing her best to respond to a child.

Ever get the feeling?


So now you are saying that NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg was lying when saying this. The NATO Secretary-General lied to the world and made false statements to mislead the people and the media.

Then Jens Stoltenberg must be removed from the NATO Secretary-General position.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:03pm:
Bobby likes to Troll.  He posts bullshit about his Dear Leader all the time.   Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)



I post the truth -

let me be your international affairs advisor.
I'm always on the money.




Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jasin on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:29pm
Brian has watched too much TV.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:03pm:
Bobby likes to Troll.  He posts bullshit about his Dear Leader all the time.   Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)



I post the truth -

let me be your international affairs advisor.
I'm always on the money.


Substitute “always” with “never” and you have the truth.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Leroy on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:36pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:03pm:
Bobby likes to Troll.  He posts bullshit about his Dear Leader all the time.   Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)





I post the truth -

let me be your international affairs advisor.
I'm always on the money.


Substitute “always” with “never” and you have the truth.


Can't you guys keep it to one thread, give everyone a break.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:43pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:20pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 1:32am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:03pm:
What caused them to pay more and the US to pay less?.


Hard to say, Leroy. Why don't you do some reearch and get back to us with the results?


It was good work by Trump that made NATO understand that it was not a boys club and they had a responsibility to make sure NATO was prepared for the safety of europe.


Quote:
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg praised President Donald Trump on Thursday for pushing countries in the alliance to boost their defense spending, an issue that has driven a wedge between Trump and Europe before.

“Let me thank you for the leadership you show on the issue of defense spending because it is very important that we all contribute more to our shared security, and it is really having an impact because, as you said, allies are now spending more on defense,” Stoltenberg said while taking reporters’ questions after the leaders met at the White House. “All allies are increasing their defense budgets.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/jens-stoltenberg-donald-trump-nato-chief-thanks-trump-for-leadership-on-military-spending/


Incorrect. The 2% GDP defence spending target was agreed by all NATO members at the NATO summit in Wales in 2014.

Vlad, at the time, was sending little green men into Crimea. There was a timeline, members committed to the timeline, and today, all members are meeting their 2% targets.

Jens Stoltenberg is doing her best to respond to a child.

Ever get the feeling?


So now you are saying that NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg was lying when saying this. The NATO Secretary-General lied to the world and made false statements to mislead the people and the media.

Then Jens Stoltenberg must be removed from the NATO Secretary-General position.


Oh? So, you're against lies, are you?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:49pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:29pm:
Brian has watched too much TV.



Brian is a sinner - he tells too many fibs.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Leroy on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:52pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:20pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 1:32am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:03pm:
What caused them to pay more and the US to pay less?.


Hard to say, Leroy. Why don't you do some reearch and get back to us with the results?


It was good work by Trump that made NATO understand that it was not a boys club and they had a responsibility to make sure NATO was prepared for the safety of europe.


Quote:
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg praised President Donald Trump on Thursday for pushing countries in the alliance to boost their defense spending, an issue that has driven a wedge between Trump and Europe before.

“Let me thank you for the leadership you show on the issue of defense spending because it is very important that we all contribute more to our shared security, and it is really having an impact because, as you said, allies are now spending more on defense,” Stoltenberg said while taking reporters’ questions after the leaders met at the White House. “All allies are increasing their defense budgets.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/jens-stoltenberg-donald-trump-nato-chief-thanks-trump-for-leadership-on-military-spending/


Incorrect. The 2% GDP defence spending target was agreed by all NATO members at the NATO summit in Wales in 2014.

Vlad, at the time, was sending little green men into Crimea. There was a timeline, members committed to the timeline, and today, all members are meeting their 2% targets.

Jens Stoltenberg is doing her best to respond to a child.

Ever get the feeling?


So now you are saying that NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg was lying when saying this. The NATO Secretary-General lied to the world and made false statements to mislead the people and the media.

Then Jens Stoltenberg must be removed from the NATO Secretary-General position.


Oh? So, you're against lies, are you?


I don't think Stoltenberg lied.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:29pm:
Brian has watched too much TV.


Brian is a sinner - he tells too many fibs.


Really, Bobby?  Then you should be able to prove I am, "fibbing" easily.  Here's space to do it:


Quote:






I look forward to reading your efforts.  Be careful, it might just come back to haunt you.  I have something you once told me about your support for Trump...  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:10pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:29pm:
Brian has watched too much TV.


Brian is a sinner - he tells too many fibs.


Really, Bobby?  Then you should be able to prove I am, "fibbing" easily.  Here's space to do it:


Quote:






I look forward to reading your efforts.  Be careful, it might just come back to haunt you.  I have something you once told me about your support for Trump...  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)



You equated my sensible comments on international affairs with the Twilight Zone.

Trump will soon be our leader of the free world and he will act like a leader.

He won't be asleep at the wheel like Biden.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:29pm:
Brian has watched too much TV.


Brian is a sinner - he tells too many fibs.


Really, Bobby?  Then you should be able to prove I am, "fibbing" easily.  Here's space to do it:


Quote:






I look forward to reading your efforts.  Be careful, it might just come back to haunt you.  I have something you once told me about your support for Trump...  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


You equated my sensible comments on international affairs with the Twilight Zone.

Trump will soon be our leader of the free world and he will act like a leader.

He won't be asleep at the wheel like Biden.


I suppose I should take that as an admission that you can't produce any evidence that I, "fib" all the time, hey, Bobby?  You're not even enough of a man to admit that your bullshitting, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by aquascoot on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:29pm:
Brian has watched too much TV.


Brian is a sinner - he tells too many fibs.


Really, Bobby?  Then you should be able to prove I am, "fibbing" easily.  Here's space to do it:


Quote:

yawn




I look forward to reading your efforts.  Be careful, it might just come back to haunt you.  I have something you once told me about your support for Trump...  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


You equated my sensible comments on international affairs with the Twilight Zone.

Trump will soon be our leader of the free world and he will act like a leader.

He won't be asleep at the wheel like Biden.


I suppose I should take that as an admission that you can't produce any evidence that I, "fib" all the time, hey, Bobby?  You're not even enough of a man to admit that your bullshitting, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:33pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:29pm:
Brian has watched too much TV.


Brian is a sinner - he tells too many fibs.


Really, Bobby?  Then you should be able to prove I am, "fibbing" easily.  Here's space to do it:


Quote:






I look forward to reading your efforts.  Be careful, it might just come back to haunt you.  I have something you once told me about your support for Trump...  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)



You equated my sensible comments on international affairs with the Twilight Zone.

Trump will soon be our leader of the free world and he will act like a leader.

He won't be asleep at the wheel like Biden.


True.  He can't drive.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:06pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:20pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 1:32am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:03pm:
What caused them to pay more and the US to pay less?.


Hard to say, Leroy. Why don't you do some reearch and get back to us with the results?


It was good work by Trump that made NATO understand that it was not a boys club and they had a responsibility to make sure NATO was prepared for the safety of europe.


Quote:
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg praised President Donald Trump on Thursday for pushing countries in the alliance to boost their defense spending, an issue that has driven a wedge between Trump and Europe before.

“Let me thank you for the leadership you show on the issue of defense spending because it is very important that we all contribute more to our shared security, and it is really having an impact because, as you said, allies are now spending more on defense,” Stoltenberg said while taking reporters’ questions after the leaders met at the White House. “All allies are increasing their defense budgets.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/jens-stoltenberg-donald-trump-nato-chief-thanks-trump-for-leadership-on-military-spending/


Incorrect. The 2% GDP defence spending target was agreed by all NATO members at the NATO summit in Wales in 2014.

Vlad, at the time, was sending little green men into Crimea. There was a timeline, members committed to the timeline, and today, all members are meeting their 2% targets.

Jens Stoltenberg is doing her best to respond to a child.

Ever get the feeling?


So now you are saying that NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg was lying when saying this. The NATO Secretary-General lied to the world and made false statements to mislead the people and the media.

Then Jens Stoltenberg must be removed from the NATO Secretary-General position.


Oh? So, you're against lies, are you?


I don't think Stoltenberg lied.


About what? When she met with your DL, European countries' defence spending was nearly exactly what they had targeted to spend.

Apart from pushing his way in the front of a photo op, what exactly do you think he did to make anybody "pay their NATO bills"?

He doesn't even know what it means. You?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by chimera on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:40pm
Maybe it's peace in Ukraine in 24 hours, maybe not, maybe invade Greenland Panama and the state of Canada, or not. Mexico will pay for the wall or EU pays for Ukraine or for Canada or Greenland pays for Panama or for Judge Merchan or Stormy the bitch never knew her, she can pay she has enough the witch.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 12th, 2025 at 6:53pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:28pm:
I suppose I should take that as an admission that you can't produce any evidence that I, "fib" all the time, hey, Bobby?  You're not even enough of a man to admit that your bullshitting, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)



Brian,
you tell so many fibs that you won't go to heaven.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 12th, 2025 at 9:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:28pm:
I suppose I should take that as an admission that you can't produce any evidence that I, "fib" all the time, hey, Bobby?  You're not even enough of a man to admit that your bullshitting, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


Brian,
you tell so many fibs that you won't go to heaven.


I don't believe in your religious fantasies, Bobby.  Run along, we all know you failed to be a man.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:59am
Aww: Trump Announces He Will Let Barron Pick First Country To Invade



U.S. — Donald Trump revealed his sensitive side this week when he announced he would let his son Barron pick the first country to invade.

"Ever since he was 2 he's been asking me to invade a country," Trump told reporters while in attendance at Jimmy Carter's funeral. "He'd say, 'Pop, I want to attack Morrowind.' — or some made-up place like that — but now he's old enough to choose a real place, so I'm going to let him pick. I'm going to be the father Biden never could be. Sleepy Joe, I call him. Sleeping on his children's dreams."

A source close to the Trump family claims Barron is deeply touched by the gesture from his father. "I don't know what to say, he reportedly said, overcome with emotion. The elder Trump allegedly responded by holding him close and whispering, "Just say Greenland, me boy."

Though no official announcement has been made, the world's countries remain on high alert. Russia is particularly vulnerable because they're already at war with Ukraine, but experts suggest Barron may not be thinking on those terms. "Honestly, he'll probably troll everyone and invade Taiwan just to throw us off," said retired General Ben Hodges. "It's what I would do."

Critics argue letting a child choose a country to invade is no basis for foreign policy, but Trump disagrees. "It's the kind of gift every father should be able to give to his son," he said. "Plus you really can't go wrong. So many good options, frankly."

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 13th, 2025 at 9:01am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:28pm:
I suppose I should take that as an admission that you can't produce any evidence that I, "fib" all the time, hey, Bobby?  You're not even enough of a man to admit that your bullshitting, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)



Brian,
you tell so many fibs that you won't go to heaven.


I have known for years that you lie your head off all the damn time. You are not trustworthy.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Karnal on Jan 13th, 2025 at 1:25pm

Frank wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:59am:
Aww: Trump Announces He Will Let Barron Pick First Country To Invade



U.S. — Donald Trump revealed his sensitive side this week when he announced he would let his son Barron pick the first country to invade.

"Ever since he was 2 he's been asking me to invade a country," Trump told reporters while in attendance at Jimmy Carter's funeral. "He'd say, 'Pop, I want to attack Morrowind.' — or some made-up place like that — but now he's old enough to choose a real place, so I'm going to let him pick. I'm going to be the father Biden never could be. Sleepy Joe, I call him. Sleeping on his children's dreams."

A source close to the Trump family claims Barron is deeply touched by the gesture from his father. "I don't know what to say, he reportedly said, overcome with emotion. The elder Trump allegedly responded by holding him close and whispering, "Just say Greenland, me boy."

Though no official announcement has been made, the world's countries remain on high alert. Russia is particularly vulnerable because they're already at war with Ukraine, but experts suggest Barron may not be thinking on those terms. "Honestly, he'll probably troll everyone and invade Taiwan just to throw us off," said retired General Ben Hodges. "It's what I would do."

Critics argue letting a child choose a country to invade is no basis for foreign policy, but Trump disagrees. "It's the kind of gift every father should be able to give to his son," he said. "Plus you really can't go wrong. So many good options, frankly."


Looks like the Babylon Bee's struggling to reframe the big fella's pro-war turnaround, old chap. The base aren't big fans, as we know.

You'll be okay though. You've always loved a jolly endless war. You'll back whatever invasion you're told, you know that.

You banged the drum for Afghanistan, you creamed your screen over Iraq, and you've been bleating away over Iran and Syria and every other shithole country that pops into your head for five minutes, colonialism-ended-far-too-soon.

Babylon Bee, of course, is scoffing at the idea that DL would actually stick to his guns and invade, but you and I know differently. You do want invasions.

But just imagine - what other US prez has required a spin machine to excuse his half-cocked pronouncements? If Sleepy Joe or Hussein Obama had refused to rule out invading sovereign countries to steal their resources you'd have lost your mind, and rightfully so. We all would.

Therein lies the difference. You need a propaganda machine to defend your squishy, spineless reflexiveness. You couldn't function otherwise.

Not satire.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 14th, 2025 at 11:33am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:53am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

That's what you get for electing a violent rapist convicted of 34 felonies.


Bobbi is suspiciously quiet.

I thought Trump was anti-war..?




Maybe it's part of a secret deal with Putin?  -

'you have a few parts of Ukraine and we'll take Greenland.'


I think it's more plausible that he thinks it will be easy to build a golf course there because it's already green, but because he's incredibly stupid he doesn't realise that 80% of the land is covered in ice and snow.

He probably thinks that Iceland.



Everyone knows it's mostly an uninhabitable ice sheet.   ::)


"Everyone knows"?

We're talking about the same guy who says "who knew!?" about things everybody knows, but he only just found out.

Remember, over the last 8 years, Trump has not been caught on camera being able to speak intelligently about any policy decision, any...

Not once:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xOj4UVHW18

Everyone else may know, but Trump?

I wouldn't count on it.

And his stupidity is only being compounded by his age and cognitive decline.  The next 4 years, if he makes it that long, are going to be interesting to say the least.

Watching his faithful defend the stupidity, gaffs and degradation of the US will be something to behold.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14th, 2025 at 11:46am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 11:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:53am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
Not even in The White House yet, and he's already threatening military action.

That's what you get for electing a violent rapist convicted of 34 felonies.


Bobbi is suspiciously quiet.

I thought Trump was anti-war..?




Maybe it's part of a secret deal with Putin?  -

'you have a few parts of Ukraine and we'll take Greenland.'


I think it's more plausible that he thinks it will be easy to build a golf course there because it's already green, but because he's incredibly stupid he doesn't realise that 80% of the land is covered in ice and snow.

He probably thinks that Iceland.



Everyone knows it's mostly an uninhabitable ice sheet.   ::)


"Everyone knows"?

We're talking about the same guy who says "who knew!?" about things everybody knows, but he only just found out.

Remember, over the last 8 years, Trump has not been caught on camera being able to speak intelligently about any policy decision, any...

Not once:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xOj4UVHW18

Everyone else may know, but Trump?

I wouldn't count on it.

And his stupidity is only being compounded by his age and cognitive decline.  The next 4 years, if he makes it that long, are going to be interesting to say the least.

Watching his faithful defend the stupidity, gaffs and degradation of the US will be something to behold.


Remember just recently when he first discovered the word 'groceries'?

He had never heard that word before in his life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn9ZvmXDpJ4

https://www.tiktok.com/@fallontonight/video/7446634337874873642

Speaking to a crowd at the Detroit Economic Club on Thursday, former President Donald Trump explained what the word “grocery” means ― or at least what it means to him.

“I have more complaints on grocery,” Trump, the GOP presidential nominee, said Thursday at the Motor City Casino. “The word ‘grocery,’ it’s a sort of simple word. But it sort of means, like, everything you eat. The stomach is speaking, it always does. And I have more complaints about that ― bacon, and things going up double, triple, quadruple.”

A second-grader knows more than Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxd23UVID7k

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 14th, 2025 at 11:58am
Trump is not the first president who has expressed interest in claiming Greenland for the US. It was expressed in 1867, 1910, 1946, 2019 and now in 2024.

Greenland is one of the very few territories, beyond the small islands it currently claims, the US would have a national security interest in administering as a territory.

Very few countries important to US national security resist a US military presence within their territory... Yemen being one of them.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14th, 2025 at 12:16pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 11:58am:
Trump is not the first president who has expressed interest in claiming Greenland for the US. It was expressed in 1867, 1910, 1946, 2019 and now in 2024.


Nobody is accusing Trump of having an original thought.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Leroy on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:29pm
Just remember Trump is by far smarter than your best on the left.

57% now, give it a few years and it will be 75%.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:35pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:29pm:
Just remember Trump is by far smarter than your best on the left.

57% now, give it a few years and it will be 75%.


312 people.

Wow.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 12:16pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 11:58am:
Trump is not the first president who has expressed interest in claiming Greenland for the US. It was expressed in 1867, 1910, 1946, 2019 and now in 2024.


Nobody is accusing Trump of having an original thought.

Trump is the great distractor-in-chief... He's a master at it.

The idea of the US acquiring Greenland sounds outlandish to the general population... And that's the point...

"Ooo, what'll he say next!!!' is what Trump wants people to be asking each other.



Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:41pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 12:16pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 11:58am:
Trump is not the first president who has expressed interest in claiming Greenland for the US. It was expressed in 1867, 1910, 1946, 2019 and now in 2024.


Nobody is accusing Trump of having an original thought.

Trump is the great distractor-in-chief... He's a master at it.

The idea of the US acquiring Greenland sounds outlandish to the general population... And that's the point...

"Ooo, what'll he say next!!!' is what Trump wants people to be asking each other.


I don't think it's outlandish at all.

The bit where he refuses to rule out military force - that's outlandish.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:41pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 12:16pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 11:58am:
Trump is not the first president who has expressed interest in claiming Greenland for the US. It was expressed in 1867, 1910, 1946, 2019 and now in 2024.


Nobody is accusing Trump of having an original thought.

Trump is the great distractor-in-chief... He's a master at it.

The idea of the US acquiring Greenland sounds outlandish to the general population... And that's the point...

"Ooo, what'll he say next!!!' is what Trump wants people to be asking each other.


I don't think it's outlandish at all.

The bit where he refuses to rule out military force - that's outlandish.

"Ooo, what'll he say next???!!!"

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:45pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:41pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 12:16pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 11:58am:
Trump is not the first president who has expressed interest in claiming Greenland for the US. It was expressed in 1867, 1910, 1946, 2019 and now in 2024.


Nobody is accusing Trump of having an original thought.

Trump is the great distractor-in-chief... He's a master at it.

The idea of the US acquiring Greenland sounds outlandish to the general population... And that's the point...

"Ooo, what'll he say next!!!' is what Trump wants people to be asking each other.


I don't think it's outlandish at all.

The bit where he refuses to rule out military force - that's outlandish.

"Ooo, what'll he say next???!!!"


I'm more worried about who'll he rape next.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:45pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:41pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 12:16pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 11:58am:
Trump is not the first president who has expressed interest in claiming Greenland for the US. It was expressed in 1867, 1910, 1946, 2019 and now in 2024.


Nobody is accusing Trump of having an original thought.

Trump is the great distractor-in-chief... He's a master at it.

The idea of the US acquiring Greenland sounds outlandish to the general population... And that's the point...

"Ooo, what'll he say next!!!' is what Trump wants people to be asking each other.


I don't think it's outlandish at all.

The bit where he refuses to rule out military force - that's outlandish.

"Ooo, what'll he say next???!!!"


I'm more worried about who'll he rape next.

You?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:50pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:45pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:41pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 12:16pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 11:58am:
Trump is not the first president who has expressed interest in claiming Greenland for the US. It was expressed in 1867, 1910, 1946, 2019 and now in 2024.


Nobody is accusing Trump of having an original thought.

Trump is the great distractor-in-chief... He's a master at it.

The idea of the US acquiring Greenland sounds outlandish to the general population... And that's the point...

"Ooo, what'll he say next!!!' is what Trump wants people to be asking each other.


I don't think it's outlandish at all.

The bit where he refuses to rule out military force - that's outlandish.

"Ooo, what'll he say next???!!!"


I'm more worried about who'll he rape next.

You?


Don Jr's new girlfriend.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 14th, 2025 at 3:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:50pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:45pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:41pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 12:16pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 11:58am:
Trump is not the first president who has expressed interest in claiming Greenland for the US. It was expressed in 1867, 1910, 1946, 2019 and now in 2024.


Nobody is accusing Trump of having an original thought.

Trump is the great distractor-in-chief... He's a master at it.

The idea of the US acquiring Greenland sounds outlandish to the general population... And that's the point...

"Ooo, what'll he say next!!!' is what Trump wants people to be asking each other.


I don't think it's outlandish at all.

The bit where he refuses to rule out military force - that's outlandish.

"Ooo, what'll he say next???!!!"


I'm more worried about who'll he rape next.

You?

Don Jr's new girlfriend.

You?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14th, 2025 at 4:09pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 3:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:50pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:45pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:41pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 12:16pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 11:58am:
Trump is not the first president who has expressed interest in claiming Greenland for the US. It was expressed in 1867, 1910, 1946, 2019 and now in 2024.


Nobody is accusing Trump of having an original thought.

Trump is the great distractor-in-chief... He's a master at it.

The idea of the US acquiring Greenland sounds outlandish to the general population... And that's the point...

"Ooo, what'll he say next!!!' is what Trump wants people to be asking each other.


I don't think it's outlandish at all.

The bit where he refuses to rule out military force - that's outlandish.

"Ooo, what'll he say next???!!!"


I'm more worried about who'll he rape next.

You?

Don Jr's new girlfriend.

You?


No.

I don't look like Ivanka.

Trump likes to rape people who look like Ivanka.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 14th, 2025 at 4:51pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 9:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:28pm:
I suppose I should take that as an admission that you can't produce any evidence that I, "fib" all the time, hey, Bobby?  You're not even enough of a man to admit that your bullshitting, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


Brian,
you tell so many fibs that you won't go to heaven.


I don't believe in your religious fantasies, Bobby.  Run along, we all know you failed to be a man.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)



Tell that to St Peter when you meet him.     :-[

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 14th, 2025 at 4:53pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:29pm:
Just remember Trump is by far smarter than your best on the left.

57% now, give it a few years and it will be 75%.


No, Trump isn’t smart, nor is he a statesman, he’s a salesperson.

Don’t confuse the two, they are fundamentally different.

Trump is a masterful salesman. Even when his contradictions are recorded for all to see, when he changes his message to suit his audience, often outright lying, he’s managed to make the truth irrelevant.

The public has come to expect his dishonesty. It’s not seen as a failing but as part of his brand, encapsulated in “the art of the deal.”

The issue arises when his lies collide with reality. After making conflicting promises to different groups, assuring them of outcomes that cannot coexist, he finds himself incapable of delivering.

Quite literally, he can’t fulfil what he’s sold, it’s impossible.

Yes, he won two presidential elections. But this wasn’t due to intellectual prowess or expertise in domestic or foreign policy. It was the result of his ability to sell a narrative, however detached from reality.

His record as President, particularly after his first term, demonstrates a glaring weakness: execution. He’s adept at making promises but fails to follow through on them.

Yet, his skills as a salesman allow him to distract from these failures. By discrediting his opponents and their parties, he fosters enough distrust that his supporters overlook his broken promises. They continue to believe he can fix the very problems he’s perpetuated, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Trump is, without question, a phenomenal salesman. But he is not a statesman, he is a moron and his Achilles’ heel lies in delivering on the grandiose visions he so skilfully sells.

Can the US recover from another Trump term?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Jasin on Jan 14th, 2025 at 5:11pm
If Trump was a Salesman. He would be the Media's darling.
Raven haired Salesmen.
Brunette spin Doctors.
Rangas... meh, not Sales. Lol

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 14th, 2025 at 5:28pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 5:11pm:
If Trump was a Salesman. He would be the Media's darling.
Raven haired Salesmen.
Brunette spin Doctors.
Rangas... meh, not Sales. Lol




Chicks with big tits can sell anything -  even sand to Arabs.    :)



Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 14th, 2025 at 5:38pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 4:53pm:
The issue arises when his lies collide with reality. After making conflicting promises to different groups, assuring them of outcomes that cannot coexist, he finds himself incapable of delivering.

Quite literally, he can’t fulfil what he’s sold, it’s impossible.



Can you give an actual example of this happening?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 14th, 2025 at 8:18pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 4:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 9:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 6:53pm:
[quote author=Brian_Ross link=1736300032/205#205 date=1736659739]

I suppose I should take that as an admission that you can't produce any evidence that I, "fib" all the time, hey, Bobby?  You're not even enough of a man to admit that your bullshitting, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


Brian,
you tell so many fibs that you won't go to heaven.


I don't believe in your religious fantasies, Bobby.  Run along, we all know you failed to be a man.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


Tell that to St Peter when you meet him.     :-[/quote]

Oh, poor, poor, Bobby.  What a WOFTAM.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 14th, 2025 at 8:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:29pm:
Brian has watched too much TV.


Brian is a sinner - he tells too many fibs.


Really, Bobby?  Then you should be able to prove I am, "fibbing" easily.  Here's space to do it:


Quote:






I look forward to reading your efforts.  Be careful, it might just come back to haunt you.  I have something you once told me about your support for Trump...  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


You equated my sensible comments on international affairs with the Twilight Zone.

Trump will soon be our leader of the free world and he will act like a leader.

He won't be asleep at the wheel like Biden.


I suppose I should take that as an admission that you can't produce any evidence that I, "fib" all the time, hey, Bobby?  You're not even enough of a man to admit that your bullshitting, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Well, you have lied about your Doctor of Divinity.
You lie about other things, too.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Leroy on Jan 14th, 2025 at 8:24pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 4:53pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:29pm:
Just remember Trump is by far smarter than your best on the left.

57% now, give it a few years and it will be 75%.


No, Trump isn’t smart, nor is he a statesman, he’s a salesperson.

Don’t confuse the two, they are fundamentally different.

Trump is a masterful salesman. Even when his contradictions are recorded for all to see, when he changes his message to suit his audience, often outright lying, he’s managed to make the truth irrelevant.

The public has come to expect his dishonesty. It’s not seen as a failing but as part of his brand, encapsulated in “the art of the deal.”

The issue arises when his lies collide with reality. After making conflicting promises to different groups, assuring them of outcomes that cannot coexist, he finds himself incapable of delivering.

Quite literally, he can’t fulfil what he’s sold, it’s impossible.

Yes, he won two presidential elections. But this wasn’t due to intellectual prowess or expertise in domestic or foreign policy. It was the result of his ability to sell a narrative, however detached from reality.

His record as President, particularly after his first term, demonstrates a glaring weakness: execution. He’s adept at making promises but fails to follow through on them.

Yet, his skills as a salesman allow him to distract from these failures. By discrediting his opponents and their parties, he fosters enough distrust that his supporters overlook his broken promises. They continue to believe he can fix the very problems he’s perpetuated, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Trump is, without question, a phenomenal salesman. But he is not a statesman, he is a moron and his Achilles’ heel lies in delivering on the grandiose visions he so skilfully sells.

Can the US recover from another Trump term?


Boy that sounds just like the description of a politician.

So basically Trump is a politician.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 14th, 2025 at 8:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 8:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 4:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 9:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 6:53pm:
[quote author=Brian_Ross link=1736300032/205#205 date=1736659739]

I suppose I should take that as an admission that you can't produce any evidence that I, "fib" all the time, hey, Bobby?  You're not even enough of a man to admit that your bullshitting, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


Brian,
you tell so many fibs that you won't go to heaven.


I don't believe in your religious fantasies, Bobby.  Run along, we all know you failed to be a man.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


Tell that to St Peter when you meet him.     :-[/quote]

Oh, poor, poor, Bobby.  What a WOFTAM.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)



Oh, Saint Peter, at the gates of heaven
Won't you let me in?
I never did no harm
I never did no wrong


Led Zeppelin In My Time Of Dying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuABqrvhLf0

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 14th, 2025 at 8:48pm

Frank wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 8:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:28pm:
I suppose I should take that as an admission that you can't produce any evidence that I, "fib" all the time, hey, Bobby?  You're not even enough of a man to admit that your bullshitting, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Well, you have lied about your Doctor of Divinity.
You lie about other things, too.



Brian is an enigma.
He claims to have a Doctor of Divinity but I have yet to hear him
correct or discuss any religious text.   :-/

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14th, 2025 at 8:57pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 8:24pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 4:53pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 2:29pm:
Just remember Trump is by far smarter than your best on the left.

57% now, give it a few years and it will be 75%.


No, Trump isn’t smart, nor is he a statesman, he’s a salesperson.

Don’t confuse the two, they are fundamentally different.

Trump is a masterful salesman. Even when his contradictions are recorded for all to see, when he changes his message to suit his audience, often outright lying, he’s managed to make the truth irrelevant.

The public has come to expect his dishonesty. It’s not seen as a failing but as part of his brand, encapsulated in “the art of the deal.”

The issue arises when his lies collide with reality. After making conflicting promises to different groups, assuring them of outcomes that cannot coexist, he finds himself incapable of delivering.

Quite literally, he can’t fulfil what he’s sold, it’s impossible.

Yes, he won two presidential elections. But this wasn’t due to intellectual prowess or expertise in domestic or foreign policy. It was the result of his ability to sell a narrative, however detached from reality.

His record as President, particularly after his first term, demonstrates a glaring weakness: execution. He’s adept at making promises but fails to follow through on them.

Yet, his skills as a salesman allow him to distract from these failures. By discrediting his opponents and their parties, he fosters enough distrust that his supporters overlook his broken promises. They continue to believe he can fix the very problems he’s perpetuated, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Trump is, without question, a phenomenal salesman. But he is not a statesman, he is a moron and his Achilles’ heel lies in delivering on the grandiose visions he so skilfully sells.

Can the US recover from another Trump term?


Boy that sounds just like the description of a politician.

So basically Trump is a politician.


And a rapist and convicted felon.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 14th, 2025 at 9:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 8:57pm:
And a rapist and convicted felon.



yes for signing 34 times that - wait for it -

legal expenses were legal expenses.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:32pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 8:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 4:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 9:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 6:53pm:
[quote author=Brian_Ross link=1736300032/205#205 date=1736659739]

I suppose I should take that as an admission that you can't produce any evidence that I, "fib" all the time, hey, Bobby?  You're not even enough of a man to admit that your bullshitting, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


Brian,
you tell so many fibs that you won't go to heaven.


I don't believe in your religious fantasies, Bobby.  Run along, we all know you failed to be a man.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


Tell that to St Peter when you meet him.     :-[/quote]

Oh, poor, poor, Bobby.  What a WOFTAM.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)



Oh, Saint Peter, at the gates of heaven
Won't you let me in?
I never did no harm
I never did no wrong


Led Zeppelin In My Time Of Dying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuABqrvhLf0

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:32pm

Frank wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 8:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:28pm:
I suppose I should take that as an admission that you can't produce any evidence that I, "fib" all the time, hey, Bobby?  You're not even enough of a man to admit that your bullshitting, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Well, you have lied about your Doctor of Divinity.
You lie about other things, too.



Brian is an enigma.
He claims to have a Doctor of Divinity but I have yet to hear him
correct or discuss any religious text.   :-/

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:57pm

Frank wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 5:38pm:
Can you give an actual example of this happening?


How many do you want?

2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act

  • What Trump Signed into Law: The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act significantly reduced the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21% and included tax cuts for individuals, though many of those were temporary and disproportionately benefited higher-income earners.
  • Claims to the General Public: Trump repeatedly said the tax cuts would be a "middle-class miracle," promising that the average American family would see significant tax relief and that the economy would grow so much that the cuts would "pay for themselves."
  • Claims to Wealthy Donors: At private fundraisers, Trump reportedly acknowledged that the tax cuts heavily favored corporations and the wealthy but justified them as essential for economic growth.
  • Reality: Nonpartisan analyses, including from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), showed that the benefits were skewed toward corporations and the wealthy, with limited trickle-down effects to the middle class. The law also added significantly to the national debt.


Health Care: Repealing and Replacing the ACA

  • What Trump Signed into Law: Despite multiple attempts, Trump and the Republican-controlled Congress failed to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act (ACA). The only major change was the elimination of the ACA’s individual mandate penalty as part of the 2017 tax law.
  • Claims to Conservatives and Republican Lawmakers: Trump promised to completely dismantle the ACA, including its Medicaid expansion, and replace it with a free-market-based system.
  • Claims to the General Public: Trump often said his plan would cover "everybody" with better care at lower costs, a promise that contradicted proposals that reduced Medicaid coverage and protections for pre-existing conditions.
  • Reality: The ACA remained largely intact, and no comprehensive replacement plan was ever presented.


Immigration: The Border Wall

  • What Trump Signed into Law: Trump used executive actions and reallocated military funding to construct or upgrade approximately 450 miles of border barriers. Congress did not fund the full cost of the wall, and much of the construction replaced existing fencing.
  • Claims to Rally Audiences: Trump claimed he would build a "big, beautiful wall" spanning the entire U.S.-Mexico border and that Mexico would pay for it.
  • Claims to Lawmakers: Trump softened his stance when negotiating with Congress, framing the wall as a national security necessity and seeking U.S. taxpayer funding to supplement his efforts.
  • Reality: The wall was never fully completed, and Mexico never paid for it. Legal challenges and funding disputes further limited its scope.


Criminal Justice Reform: First Step Act

  • What Trump Signed into Law: The First Step Act was a bipartisan criminal justice reform bill that reduced mandatory minimum sentences for nonviolent drug offenses and aimed to reduce recidivism.
  • Claims to Progressives and Moderates: Trump highlighted the First Step Act as a major bipartisan achievement, emphasizing its focus on rehabilitation and fairness in sentencing.
  • Claims to Conservative Audiences: Trump downplayed the leniency aspects and emphasized the law's focus on public safety, stating that it was about helping deserving individuals while keeping dangerous criminals off the streets.
  • Reality: The law was largely viewed as a modest but meaningful step toward reform, though Trump’s rhetoric sometimes exaggerated its impact.


Trade Policies and Tariffs

  • What Trump Signed into Law: Trump imposed tariffs on imports from China and other countries, aiming to reduce trade deficits and protect U.S. industries. He also signed the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), which replaced NAFTA.
  • Claims to Farmers and Rural Communities: Trump claimed the tariffs were a temporary measure that would bring China to the negotiating table and benefit American agriculture in the long run.
  • Claims to Business Leaders: Trump reassured corporate leaders that the tariffs would lead to more favorable trade deals and that their industries would benefit from increased protections.
  • Reality: The trade war hurt U.S. farmers and manufacturers, prompting the administration to provide billions in subsidies to offset losses. While the USMCA updated some provisions of NAFTA, it was largely seen as an incremental change rather than a complete overhaul.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 5:38pm:
Can you give an actual example of this happening?


How many do you want?


Environmental Policy: Rollbacks of Obama-Era Regulations

  • What Trump Signed into Law: Trump rolled back numerous environmental protections, including weakening the Clean Power Plan, loosening methane emission standards, and withdrawing from the Paris Climate Agreement.
  • Claims to Fossil Fuel Industries: Trump presented himself as a champion of coal, oil, and gas, promising to end what he called the "war on coal" and regulatory overreach.
  • Claims to Broader Audiences: Trump often downplayed the environmental impact of his policies, framing them as necessary for economic growth and energy independence.
  • Reality: The rollbacks were criticized by environmentalists and did little to revive the coal industry, which continued to decline due to market forces.


It's simply what he does.

It's just, and this is his still, nobody cares because they know he's a lying sack of poo.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 15th, 2025 at 5:24pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 5:38pm:
Can you give an actual example of this happening?


How many do you want?


Environmental Policy: Rollbacks of Obama-Era Regulations

  • What Trump Signed into Law: Trump rolled back numerous environmental protections, including weakening the Clean Power Plan, loosening methane emission standards, and withdrawing from the Paris Climate Agreement.
  • Claims to Fossil Fuel Industries: Trump presented himself as a champion of coal, oil, and gas, promising to end what he called the "war on coal" and regulatory overreach.
  • Claims to Broader Audiences: Trump often downplayed the environmental impact of his policies, framing them as necessary for economic growth and energy independence.
  • Reality: The rollbacks were criticized by environmentalists and did little to revive the coal industry, which continued to decline due to market forces.


It's simply what he does.

It's just, and this is his still, nobody cares because they know he's a lying sack of poo.

Silly bollocks.


The United States has been an annual net total energy exporter since 2019.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 15th, 2025 at 5:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 9:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 8:57pm:
And a rapist and convicted felon.



yes for signing 34 times that - wait for it -

legal expenses were legal expenses.


Yes Trump paid Hush money to a porn star weeks before the 2016 election through his lawyer who went to prison for 3 years for being party to Trump's illegal election coverup.



Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 15th, 2025 at 5:50pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 5:38pm:
Can you give an actual example of this happening?


How many do you want?

2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act

  • What Trump Signed into Law: The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act significantly reduced the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21% and included tax cuts for individuals, though many of those were temporary and disproportionately benefited higher-income earners.
  • Claims to the General Public: Trump repeatedly said the tax cuts would be a "middle-class miracle," promising that the average American family would see significant tax relief and that the economy would grow so much that the cuts would "pay for themselves."
  • Claims to Wealthy Donors: At private fundraisers, Trump reportedly acknowledged that the tax cuts heavily favored corporations and the wealthy but justified them as essential for economic growth.
  • Reality: Nonpartisan analyses, including from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), showed that the benefits were skewed toward corporations and the wealthy, with limited trickle-down effects to the middle class. The law also added significantly to the national debt.


Health Care: Repealing and Replacing the ACA

  • What Trump Signed into Law: Despite multiple attempts, Trump and the Republican-controlled Congress failed to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act (ACA). The only major change was the elimination of the ACA’s individual mandate penalty as part of the 2017 tax law.
  • Claims to Conservatives and Republican Lawmakers: Trump promised to completely dismantle the ACA, including its Medicaid expansion, and replace it with a free-market-based system.
  • Claims to the General Public: Trump often said his plan would cover "everybody" with better care at lower costs, a promise that contradicted proposals that reduced Medicaid coverage and protections for pre-existing conditions.
  • Reality: The ACA remained largely intact, and no comprehensive replacement plan was ever presented.


Immigration: The Border Wall

  • What Trump Signed into Law: Trump used executive actions and reallocated military funding to construct or upgrade approximately 450 miles of border barriers. Congress did not fund the full cost of the wall, and much of the construction replaced existing fencing.
  • Claims to Rally Audiences: Trump claimed he would build a "big, beautiful wall" spanning the entire U.S.-Mexico border and that Mexico would pay for it.
  • Claims to Lawmakers: Trump softened his stance when negotiating with Congress, framing the wall as a national security necessity and seeking U.S. taxpayer funding to supplement his efforts.
  • Reality: The wall was never fully completed, and Mexico never paid for it. Legal challenges and funding disputes further limited its scope.


Criminal Justice Reform: First Step Act

  • What Trump Signed into Law: The First Step Act was a bipartisan criminal justice reform bill that reduced mandatory minimum sentences for nonviolent drug offenses and aimed to reduce recidivism.
  • Claims to Progressives and Moderates: Trump highlighted the First Step Act as a major bipartisan achievement, emphasizing its focus on rehabilitation and fairness in sentencing.
  • Claims to Conservative Audiences: Trump downplayed the leniency aspects and emphasized the law's focus on public safety, stating that it was about helping deserving individuals while keeping dangerous criminals off the streets.
  • Reality: The law was largely viewed as a modest but meaningful step toward reform, though Trump’s rhetoric sometimes exaggerated its impact.


Trade Policies and Tariffs

  • What Trump Signed into Law: Trump imposed tariffs on imports from China and other countries, aiming to reduce trade deficits and protect U.S. industries. He also signed the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), which replaced NAFTA.
  • Claims to Farmers and Rural Communities: Trump claimed the tariffs were a temporary measure that would bring China to the negotiating table and benefit American agriculture in the long run.
  • Claims to Business Leaders: Trump reassured corporate leaders that the tariffs would lead to more favorable trade deals and that their industries would benefit from increased protections.
  • Reality: The trade war hurt U.S. farmers and manufacturers, prompting the administration to provide billions in subsidies to offset losses. While the USMCA updated some provisions of NAFTA, it was largely seen as an incremental change rather than a complete overhaul.



Counterrevolution Blueprint
How to eliminate left-wing racialism from the federal government


The second election of Donald Trump, along with Republican victories in both houses of Congress, sets the stage in the United States for a confrontation between democracy, which depends on representative institutions to form a government, and the rule of unelected elites, which relies on claims of expertise to control the state.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 15th, 2025 at 5:50pm
Already, internal opposition to Trump is organizing within the federal agencies. CNN reports that Pentagon officials are discussing disobeying official policy. Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell has declared that he would refuse if Trump asked for his resignation. Some would like to see a reprise of the orchestrated counteractions against Trump, from the Russia collusion hoax to the Hunter Biden laptop censorship to the political prosecutions that led to his arrest and felony convictions.

The coming political confrontation is unusual because the specific antagonist is hard to identify. Trump is not contending against Joe Biden or Kamala Harris, or even the Democratic minority in Congress. Instead, the president-elect’s post-electoral opposition comes from inside the executive branch itself, in defiance of Article II of the Constitution, which opens with the unqualified statement: “The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.”

In recent years, phrases like “the deep state” have arisen in American political discourse to describe this phenomenon, in which administrators, bureaucrats, and unelected officials seem to wield a kind of power that we still lack appropriate language to describe. Part of the motivation is self-interest—bureaucrats want to protect their positions—but another is ideological: the federal government is steeped in left-wing race and gender ideology, and its adherents see Trump as an existential threat.

By rights, he should be. The incoming president has, under the Constitution, every right to bend the administration to his vision, which is contrary to the tenets of left-wing racialism. But those ideologies, which the Biden administration has entrenched through its “whole-of-government” diversity agenda, have long ruled the agencies that control the details of federal policymaking. Hence, the conflict: the president, who has formal authority, versus the ideological bureaucracy, which has real power.

At the end of his first term, Trump attempted to correct this problem through actions such as an executive order banning critical race theory in the federal government. The second Trump administration must go further and dedicate itself to a process that Vice President–elect J. D. Vance has described as “dewokeification.” This is the most urgent policy problem facing the administration, because without representative institutions and a restoration of constitutional authority, it is not possible to govern America.

The Trump administration has a unique opportunity to take decisive action on Day One, through executive orders that can serve as the opening salvo in a counterrevolution. The basic premise: the U.S. should strip left-wing racialism from the federal government and recommit the country to the principle of color-blind equality. Through an aggressive campaign, Trump and his cabinet can put an end to forms of discrimination disguised under the name of “diversity, equity, and inclusion” (DEI) and make government work again.

The process of ideological capture has taken decades. But the counterrevolution can, and must, quickly retake those institutions in the name of the people and reorient them toward the enduring principles of liberty and equality. Bureaucrats abusing the public trust to advance their own ideologies should be put on notice: they will be shut down, their departments abolished, and their employment terminated. The administration will work to rid America of this ideological corruption before it further rots our institutions, demoralizes our citizens, and renders the government totally incompetent.

The counterrevolution begins now.


The rest is here:
https://www.city-journal.org/article/counterrevolution-blueprint

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 15th, 2025 at 6:06pm
Funny how people will discuss the stupidest things?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 15th, 2025 at 6:09pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 6:06pm:
Funny how people will discuss the stupidest things?

No, they are not talking about you fowl duckwit.

Go waddle and shitt.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 15th, 2025 at 7:04pm

Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 5:50pm:
At the end of his first term, Trump ...


... had achieved nothing.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 15th, 2025 at 7:20pm

Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 6:09pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 6:06pm:
Funny how people will discuss the stupidest things?

No, they are not talking about you fowl duckwit.

Go waddle and shitt.


So typical Frank content.  He must be proud of himself.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 15th, 2025 at 7:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 7:04pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 5:50pm:
At the end of his first term, Trump ...


... had achieved nothing.


Did you know that At the end of Trump's first term more people were coming over the border than there are at the end of Bidens term?

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 15th, 2025 at 7:24pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 7:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 6:09pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 6:06pm:
Funny how people will discuss the stupidest things?

No, they are not talking about you fowl duckwit.

Go waddle and shitt.


So typical Frank content.  He must be proud of himself.

You only had a moronic, irrelevant quip in response to #248.
You must be extra proud of yourself, waddling fowl.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 15th, 2025 at 7:24pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 7:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 7:04pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 5:50pm:
At the end of his first term, Trump ...


... had achieved nothing.


Did you know that At the end of Trump's first term more people were coming over the border than there are at the end of Bidens term?


That's correct.

And, there were 500,000 fewer Americans thanks to Trump standing by and doing absolutely nothing while they died of COVID.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by lee on Jan 15th, 2025 at 8:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 7:24pm:
And, there were 500,000 fewer Americans thanks to Trump standing by and doing absolutely nothing while they died of COVID.


So 700,000 died under Biden? He is such a hero. ;)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:33am

lee wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 8:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 7:24pm:
And, there were 500,000 fewer Americans thanks to Trump standing by and doing absolutely nothing while they died of COVID.


So 700,000 died under Biden? He is such a hero. ;)


More COVID-19 deaths occurred during Biden’s presidential term than Trump’s, but this claim is potentially misleading without context.

The COVID-19 pandemic impacted the Trump administration for just  one year. In contrast, it impacted the entirety of Biden’s presidential term.

As of September 2024, COVID-19 was responsible for 1.2 million deaths in the U.S., with the majority of those deaths occurring during Biden’s presidency.

However, death toll figures under both the Trump and Biden administrations aren’t directly comparable because Biden has been in office for a longer period of time since the virus emerged compared to Trump.

Once we account for the duration of each administration, the weekly COVID-19 mortality rate was lower on average during the period coinciding with Biden’s presidency.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:38am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:33am:

lee wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 8:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 7:24pm:
And, there were 500,000 fewer Americans thanks to Trump standing by and doing absolutely nothing while they died of COVID.


So 700,000 died under Biden? He is such a hero. ;)


More COVID-19 deaths occurred during Biden’s presidential term than Trump’s, but this claim is potentially misleading without context.

The COVID-19 pandemic impacted the Trump administration for just  one year. In contrast, it impacted the entirety of Biden’s presidential term.

As of September 2024, COVID-19 was responsible for 1.2 million deaths in the U.S., with the majority of those deaths occurring during Biden’s presidency.

However, death toll figures under both the Trump and Biden administrations aren’t directly comparable because Biden has been in office for a longer period of time since the virus emerged compared to Trump.

Once we account for the duration of each administration, the weekly COVID-19 mortality rate was lower on average during the period coinciding with Biden’s presidency.



The Yanks died in huge numbers from Covid because more than 65% of their population is obese
from all the junk food they eat.

That is not Trump's fault although he does spruik junk food.     :-[

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:42am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:33am:

lee wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 8:20pm:
[quote author=greggerypeccary link=1736300032/255#255 date=1736933069]And, there were 500,000 fewer Americans thanks to Trump standing by and doing absolutely nothing while they died of COVID.


So 700,000 died under Biden? He is such a hero. ;)


More COVID-19 deaths occurred during Biden’s presidential term than Trump’s, but this claim is potentially misleading without context.

The COVID-19 pandemic impacted the Trump administration for just  one year. In contrast, it impacted the entirety of Biden’s presidential term.

As of September 2024, COVID-19 was responsible for 1.2 million deaths in the U.S., with the majority of those deaths occurring during Biden’s presidency.

However, death toll figures under both the Trump and Biden administrations aren’t directly comparable because Biden has been in office for a longer period of time since the virus emerged compared to Trump.

Once we account for the duration of each administration, the weekly COVID-19 mortality rate was lower on average during the period coinciding with Biden’s presidency.



The Yanks died in huge numbers from Covid because more than 65% of their population is obese
from all the junk food they eat.

That is not Trump's fault although he does spruik junk food.     :-[/quote]

The initial deaths are 100% Trump's fault.

He is responsible for thousands of unnecessary deaths.

He failed to take the pandemic seriously.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Bobby. on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:55am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:42am:
The initial deaths are 100% Trump's fault.

He is responsible for thousands of unnecessary deaths.

He failed to take the pandemic seriously.



Greggy,
you can't blame Trump for everything -
he could only go on the advice he received -
Fauci was the one dishing out advice.   ::)

Anyway - this is now OFF TOPIC.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:11am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:42am:
The initial deaths are 100% Trump's fault.

He is responsible for thousands of unnecessary deaths.

He failed to take the pandemic seriously.



Greggy,
you can't blame Trump for everything -
he could only go on the advice he received -


He ignored the advice he received.

That's why so many people - including his own brother - died.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:18am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:42am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:33am:

lee wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 8:20pm:
[quote author=greggerypeccary link=1736300032/255#255 date=1736933069]And, there were 500,000 fewer Americans thanks to Trump standing by and doing absolutely nothing while they died of COVID.


So 700,000 died under Biden? He is such a hero. ;)


More COVID-19 deaths occurred during Biden’s presidential term than Trump’s, but this claim is potentially misleading without context.

The COVID-19 pandemic impacted the Trump administration for just  one year. In contrast, it impacted the entirety of Biden’s presidential term.

As of September 2024, COVID-19 was responsible for 1.2 million deaths in the U.S., with the majority of those deaths occurring during Biden’s presidency.

However, death toll figures under both the Trump and Biden administrations aren’t directly comparable because Biden has been in office for a longer period of time since the virus emerged compared to Trump.

Once we account for the duration of each administration, the weekly COVID-19 mortality rate was lower on average during the period coinciding with Biden’s presidency.



The Yanks died in huge numbers from Covid because more than 65% of their population is obese
from all the junk food they eat.

That is not Trump's fault although he does spruik junk food.     :-[/quote]

The initial deaths are 100% Trump's fault.

He is responsible for thousands of unnecessary deaths.

He failed to take the pandemic seriously.

Idiotic nonsense.



Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:26am

Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Silly bollocks.


I expected nothing less than your default approach: dismissing it outright,


ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 1:43pm:
I fully anticipate your rejection, as is customary, but the information has been provided regardless.

Let us observe the extent of your openness to reality this time.

Given your track record, the outlook is hardly favourable, but we shall see.


It’s a pattern. Someone makes a claim that challenges your perspective, and you demand proof. When they provide it, you dismiss the evidence, not because it lacks merit, but because you cannot reconcile it with the reality that rarely aligns with your worldview.

Take Trump, for instance. He’s infamous for tailoring his rhetoric to suit his audience. This isn’t a mark of flexibility or strategy, it’s duplicity. If you tell two groups two different stories, you’re lying to one, if not both.

When it comes time to implement those promises, someone will inevitably be left in the lurch. It’s an unavoidable consequence of his brand of political showmanship.

Trump is, at his core, a salesman, a dishonest, slimy one who’s parlayed those skills into political success. But being an effective salesman doesn’t equate to being a good leader, let alone a statesman. Salesmen care about the transaction, not the product.

For Trump, the sale is the election. Once the deal is closed, his interest wanes, and he moves on to the next spectacle.

During his first term, we saw this in action. Trump seemed far more captivated by holding rallies than governing. For him, the rallies were the point: adoration, applause, and affirmation. Governance? That was incidental, a tedious obligation he barely tolerated.

He doesn’t care about following through on his promises. At best, he recycles them, blaming others when he inevitably fails to deliver, or just lies and claims they were delivered knowing that his fans won't bother to check, and if the media do, it will be dismissed as bias.

Because the truth is, he doesn’t care. He never has. His first term was a masterclass in this indifference, and there’s no reason to believe another term would be any different.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:28am

Quote:
Dum Dum Trump has again expressed interest Greenland



Absolutely batshite Crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PI_SverY0w

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:32am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:26am:

Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Silly bollocks.


I expected nothing less than your default approach: dismissing it outright.

Long winded, selective waffle.



ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 5:38pm:
Can you give an actual example of this happening?


How many do you want?


Environmental Policy: Rollbacks of Obama-Era Regulations

  • What Trump Signed into Law: Trump rolled back numerous environmental protections, including weakening the Clean Power Plan, loosening methane emission standards, and withdrawing from the Paris Climate Agreement.
  • Claims to Fossil Fuel Industries: Trump presented himself as a champion of coal, oil, and gas, promising to end what he called the "war on coal" and regulatory overreach.
  • Claims to Broader Audiences: Trump often downplayed the environmental impact of his policies, framing them as necessary for economic growth and energy independence.
  • Reality: The rollbacks were criticized by environmentalists and did little to revive the coal industry, which continued to decline due to market forces.


It's simply what he does.

It's just, and this is his still, nobody cares because they know he's a lying sack of poo.

Silly bollocks is correct.


[The United States has been an annual net total energy exporter since 2019.

Your stupid little spin flatly contradicts the facts:
Trum rolled back red and green tape to achieve energy independence.
And he achieved energy independence.

You are one of the many silly buggers who kvetch about green tape and red tape .

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:41am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dZEsgxuoSg

This video is a little inaccurate, that baby understands what "No" means.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:46am

Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:32am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:26am:

Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Silly bollocks.


I expected nothing less than your default approach: dismissing it outright.

Long winded, selective waffle.



ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 5:38pm:
Can you give an actual example of this happening?


How many do you want?


Environmental Policy: Rollbacks of Obama-Era Regulations

  • What Trump Signed into Law: Trump rolled back numerous environmental protections, including weakening the Clean Power Plan, loosening methane emission standards, and withdrawing from the Paris Climate Agreement.
  • Claims to Fossil Fuel Industries: Trump presented himself as a champion of coal, oil, and gas, promising to end what he called the "war on coal" and regulatory overreach.
  • Claims to Broader Audiences: Trump often downplayed the environmental impact of his policies, framing them as necessary for economic growth and energy independence.
  • Reality: The rollbacks were criticized by environmentalists and did little to revive the coal industry, which continued to decline due to market forces.


It's simply what he does.

It's just, and this is his still, nobody cares because they know he's a lying sack of poo.

Silly bollocks is correct.


[The United States has been an annual net total energy exporter since 2019.

Your stupid little spin flatly contradicts the facts:
Trum rolled back red and green tape to achieve energy independence.
And he achieved energy independence.

You are one of the many silly buggers who kvetch about green tape and red tape .


During Trump's presidency, there was a modest uptick in coal mining jobs. This was largely due to regulatory rollbacks and a temporary increase in global demand for coal exports. However, the increase was minimal, roughly a few thousand jobs at its peak.

For example, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported about 50,000 coal mining jobs in 2016, which rose to around 53,000 jobs by mid-2018.

Subsequent Decline:

Despite efforts to boost coal, structural forces like the rise of cheaper natural gas, renewables, and automation continued to erode the coal industry.

By the end of Trump's term in early 2021, coal mining employment had fallen back to around 42,000 jobs, according to BLS data.

The focus was on the coal industry friend. 

Swing and a miss, again.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 16th, 2025 at 11:25am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:26am:

Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Silly bollocks.


I expected nothing less than your default approach: dismissing it outright,


ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 1:43pm:
I fully anticipate your rejection, as is customary, but the information has been provided regardless.

Let us observe the extent of your openness to reality this time.

Given your track record, the outlook is hardly favourable, but we shall see.


It’s a pattern. Someone makes a claim that challenges your perspective, and you demand proof. When they provide it, you dismiss the evidence, not because it lacks merit, but because you cannot reconcile it with the reality that rarely aligns with your worldview.

Take Trump, for instance. He’s infamous for tailoring his rhetoric to suit his audience. This isn’t a mark of flexibility or strategy, it’s duplicity. If you tell two groups two different stories, you’re lying to one, if not both.

When it comes time to implement those promises, someone will inevitably be left in the lurch. It’s an unavoidable consequence of his brand of political showmanship.

Trump is, at his core, a salesman, a dishonest, slimy one who’s parlayed those skills into political success. But being an effective salesman doesn’t equate to being a good leader, let alone a statesman. Salesmen care about the transaction, not the product.

For Trump, the sale is the election. Once the deal is closed, his interest wanes, and he moves on to the next spectacle.

During his first term, we saw this in action. Trump seemed far more captivated by holding rallies than governing. For him, the rallies were the point: adoration, applause, and affirmation. Governance? That was incidental, a tedious obligation he barely tolerated.

He doesn’t care about following through on his promises. At best, he recycles them, blaming others when he inevitably fails to deliver, or just lies and claims they were delivered knowing that his fans won't bother to check, and if the media do, it will be dismissed as bias.

Because the truth is, he doesn’t care. He never has. His first term was a masterclass in this indifference, and there’s no reason to believe another term would be any different.


Great post.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 16th, 2025 at 11:36am

Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:32am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:26am:

Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Silly bollocks.


I expected nothing less than your default approach: dismissing it outright.

Long winded, selective waffle.



ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 5:38pm:
Can you give an actual example of this happening?


How many do you want?


Environmental Policy: Rollbacks of Obama-Era Regulations

  • What Trump Signed into Law: Trump rolled back numerous environmental protections, including weakening the Clean Power Plan, loosening methane emission standards, and withdrawing from the Paris Climate Agreement.
  • Claims to Fossil Fuel Industries: Trump presented himself as a champion of coal, oil, and gas, promising to end what he called the "war on coal" and regulatory overreach.
  • Claims to Broader Audiences: Trump often downplayed the environmental impact of his policies, framing them as necessary for economic growth and energy independence.
  • Reality: The rollbacks were criticized by environmentalists and did little to revive the coal industry, which continued to decline due to market forces.


It's simply what he does.

It's just, and this is his still, nobody cares because they know he's a lying sack of poo.

Silly bollocks is correct.


[The United States has been an annual net total energy exporter since 2019.

Your stupid little spin flatly contradicts the facts:
Trum rolled back red and green tape to achieve energy independence.
And he achieved energy independence.

You are one of the many silly buggers who kvetch about green tape and red tape .


While it is technically correct to say that the U.S. became energy independent while President Trump was in office, the reason was the shale boom that had begun in earnest in 2005.

Moreover, 2022 (while Joe Biden was President) marked the highest level of US energy independence since before 1950.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 16th, 2025 at 12:59pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:46am:

Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:32am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:26am:

Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Silly bollocks.


I expected nothing less than your default approach: dismissing it outright.

Long winded, selective waffle.



ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 5:38pm:
Can you give an actual example of this happening?


How many do you want?


Environmental Policy: Rollbacks of Obama-Era Regulations

  • What Trump Signed into Law: Trump rolled back numerous environmental protections, including weakening the Clean Power Plan, loosening methane emission standards, and withdrawing from the Paris Climate Agreement.
  • Claims to Fossil Fuel Industries: Trump presented himself as a champion of coal, oil, and gas, promising to end what he called the "war on coal" and regulatory overreach.
  • Claims to Broader Audiences: Trump often downplayed the environmental impact of his policies, framing them as necessary for economic growth and energy independence.
  • Reality: The rollbacks were criticized by environmentalists and did little to revive the coal industry, which continued to decline due to market forces.


It's simply what he does.

It's just, and this is his still, nobody cares because they know he's a lying sack of poo.

Silly bollocks is correct.


[The United States has been an annual net total energy exporter since 2019.

Your stupid little spin flatly contradicts the facts:
Trum rolled back red and green tape to achieve energy independence.
And he achieved energy independence.

You are one of the many silly buggers who kvetch about green tape and red tape .


During Trump's presidency, there was a modest uptick in coal mining jobs. This was largely due to regulatory rollbacks and a temporary increase in global demand for coal exports. However, the increase was minimal, roughly a few thousand jobs at its peak.

For example, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported about 50,000 coal mining jobs in 2016, which rose to around 53,000 jobs by mid-2018.

Subsequent Decline:

Despite efforts to boost coal, structural forces like the rise of cheaper natural gas, renewables, and automation continued to erode the coal industry.

By the end of Trump's term in early 2021, coal mining employment had fallen back to around 42,000 jobs, according to BLS data.

The focus was on the coal industry friend. 

Swing and a miss, again.



The focus was not on coal, as your previous post made it clear. But now you want  to shift a little and leave out oil, gas. The US achieved energy independence and became as net energy exporter.


Lots of other achievements in his first term. You and the rest of the TDS kids would not be so deranged and seething if he was really as ineffective and inconsequential as you now try to make it out.

Here's a NYT list. Knock yourselves out kvetching and quibbling.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/11/opinion/fact-check-trump.html

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 16th, 2025 at 3:13pm

Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 12:59pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:46am:

Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:32am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:26am:

Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Silly bollocks.


I expected nothing less than your default approach: dismissing it outright.

Long winded, selective waffle.



ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 14th, 2025 at 5:38pm:
Can you give an actual example of this happening?


How many do you want?


Environmental Policy: Rollbacks of Obama-Era Regulations

  • What Trump Signed into Law: Trump rolled back numerous environmental protections, including weakening the Clean Power Plan, loosening methane emission standards, and withdrawing from the Paris Climate Agreement.
  • Claims to Fossil Fuel Industries: Trump presented himself as a champion of coal, oil, and gas, promising to end what he called the "war on coal" and regulatory overreach.
  • Claims to Broader Audiences: Trump often downplayed the environmental impact of his policies, framing them as necessary for economic growth and energy independence.
  • Reality: The rollbacks were criticized by environmentalists and did little to revive the coal industry, which continued to decline due to market forces.


It's simply what he does.

It's just, and this is his still, nobody cares because they know he's a lying sack of poo.

Silly bollocks is correct.


[The United States has been an annual net total energy exporter since 2019.

Your stupid little spin flatly contradicts the facts:
Trum rolled back red and green tape to achieve energy independence.
And he achieved energy independence.

You are one of the many silly buggers who kvetch about green tape and red tape .


During Trump's presidency, there was a modest uptick in coal mining jobs. This was largely due to regulatory rollbacks and a temporary increase in global demand for coal exports. However, the increase was minimal, roughly a few thousand jobs at its peak.

For example, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported about 50,000 coal mining jobs in 2016, which rose to around 53,000 jobs by mid-2018.

Subsequent Decline:

Despite efforts to boost coal, structural forces like the rise of cheaper natural gas, renewables, and automation continued to erode the coal industry.

By the end of Trump's term in early 2021, coal mining employment had fallen back to around 42,000 jobs, according to BLS data.

The focus was on the coal industry friend. 

Swing and a miss, again.



The focus was not on coal, as your previous post made it clear.


I know what the focus was, because it was my post, that's why I included,


ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
"war on coal"




Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 16th, 2025 at 5:06pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 3:13pm:
quote author=Frank link=1736300032/270#270 date=1736996357]
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:46am:
The focus was not on coal, as your previous post made it clear.


I know what the focus was, because it was my post, that's why I included,


ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
"war on coal"

Try to be honest at least when there is clear evidence that you are trying to distort and twist not just what others say but even what YOU yourself said:



ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
Trump presented himself as a champion of coal, oil, and gas, promising to end what he called the "war on coal" and regulatory overreach.




Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 16th, 2025 at 7:17pm

Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 5:06pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 3:13pm:
quote author=Frank link=1736300032/270#270 date=1736996357]
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:46am:
The focus was not on coal, as your previous post made it clear.


I know what the focus was, because it was my post, that's why I included,


ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
"war on coal"

Try to be honest at least when there is clear evidence that you are trying to distort and twist not just what others say but even what YOU yourself said:



ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
Trump presented himself as a champion of coal, oil, and gas, promising to end what he called the "war on coal" and regulatory overreach.


Coal rather peaked in the 1700's It's use by date passed somewhere in a previous century.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 16th, 2025 at 7:21pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 7:17pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 5:06pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 3:13pm:
quote author=Frank link=1736300032/270#270 date=1736996357]
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:46am:
The focus was not on coal, as your previous post made it clear.


I know what the focus was, because it was my post, that's why I included,


ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
"war on coal"

Try to be honest at least when there is clear evidence that you are trying to distort and twist not just what others say but even what YOU yourself said:



ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
Trump presented himself as a champion of coal, oil, and gas, promising to end what he called the "war on coal" and regulatory overreach.


Coal rather peaked in the 1700's It's use by date passed somewhere in a previous century.


Much like Trump, the convicted felon and adjudicated rapist.


Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by lee on Jan 16th, 2025 at 7:31pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 7:17pm:
Coal rather peaked in the 1700's It's use by date passed somewhere in a previous century.


That's not what happened. see-

https://ourworldindata.org/global-energy-200-years

Another who doesn't know what he doesn't know. ::)

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 16th, 2025 at 7:35pm

lee wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 7:31pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 7:17pm:
Coal rather peaked in the 1700's It's use by date passed somewhere in a previous century.


That's not what happened. see-

https://ourworldindata.org/global-energy-200-years

Another who doesn't know what he doesn't know. ::)


So I exaggerated a little. Coal was viable well into the 1900's but the premise is the same. Politics has unnecessarily kept it going up to the 2000's.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 16th, 2025 at 7:37pm

Quote:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenland


Trump needs to be careful - can't alienate everyone - He is going to need somewhere to hide when he leaves office assuming that he survives the term.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by chimera on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:17pm
Flags will be at half mast on D-Day.
'Idaho , North Dakota, Florida , Alabama , Tennessee  and Iowa  noted in announcements this week that U.S. flags across their states would be relowered on Jan. 21 in honor of Carter. Texas Gov.  issued a similar notice on Monday.'
Trump complained about nobody wants the flag down on his Big Day next week.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Leroy on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:28pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 7:37pm:

Quote:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenland


Trump needs to be careful - can't alienate everyone - He is going to need somewhere to hide when he leaves office assuming that he survives the term.


Are the left that unhinged and dangerous.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:29pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:28pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 7:37pm:

Quote:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenland


Trump needs to be careful - can't alienate everyone - He is going to need somewhere to hide when he leaves office assuming that he survives the term.


Are the left that unhinged and dangerous.


He will commit more crimes he cannot help himself. Once a criminal always a criminal.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Dnarever on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:38pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:28pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 7:37pm:

Quote:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenland


Trump needs to be careful - can't alienate everyone - He is going to need somewhere to hide when he leaves office assuming that he survives the term.


Are the left that unhinged and dangerous.


You know the attempts on his life if real were all from republicans ?

The biggest threat to Trump would he his health choices, natural causes and prison for future crimes.

I don't see the left as a threat at all.



Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Leroy on Jan 16th, 2025 at 9:19pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:38pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 8:28pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 7:37pm:

Quote:
Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenland


Trump needs to be careful - can't alienate everyone - He is going to need somewhere to hide when he leaves office assuming that he survives the term.


Are the left that unhinged and dangerous.


You know the attempts on his life if real were all from republicans ?

The biggest threat to Trump would he his health choices, natural causes and prison for future crimes.

I don't see the left as a threat at all.


Well then there is no problem. Especially as the left will love him within three years.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 17th, 2025 at 10:35am

Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 5:06pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 3:13pm:
quote author=Frank link=1736300032/270#270 date=1736996357]
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:46am:
The focus was not on coal, as your previous post made it clear.


I know what the focus was, because it was my post, that's why I included,


ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
"war on coal"

Try to be honest at least when there is clear evidence that you are trying to distort and twist not just what others say but even what YOU yourself said:



ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
Trump presented himself as a champion of coal, oil, and gas, promising to end what he called the "war on coal" and regulatory overreach.


Exactly,


ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
Trump presented himself as a champion of coal, oil, and gas, promising to end what he called the "war on coal" and regulatory overreach.


Then I went to highlight the coal jobs figures.

You can't handle it, so you're trying to deflect to something us, as usual.

Do better.

Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by Frank on Jan 17th, 2025 at 11:07am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 10:35am:

Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 5:06pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 3:13pm:
quote author=Frank link=1736300032/270#270 date=1736996357]
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:46am:
The focus was not on coal, as your previous post made it clear.


I know what the focus was, because it was my post, that's why I included,


ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
"war on coal"

Try to be honest at least when there is clear evidence that you are trying to distort and twist not just what others say but even what YOU yourself said:



ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
Trump presented himself as a champion of coal, oil, and gas, promising to end what he called the "war on coal" and regulatory overreach.


Exactly,


ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
Trump presented himself as a champion of coal, oil, and gas, promising to end what he called the "war on coal" and regulatory overreach.


Then I went to highlight the coal jobs figures.

You can't handle it, so you're trying to deflect to something us, as usual.

Do better.


He did end the war on coal.  And gas and oil.

What the markets do AFTER the red and green tape is rolled back is another matter. After all, he didnt say he'd nationalise and mandate coal.





Title: Re: Donald Trump has again expressed interest Greenlan
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 17th, 2025 at 1:38pm

Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 11:07am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 10:35am:

Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 5:06pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 3:13pm:
quote author=Frank link=1736300032/270#270 date=1736996357]
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:46am:
The focus was not on coal, as your previous post made it clear.


I know what the focus was, because it was my post, that's why I included,


ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
"war on coal"

Try to be honest at least when there is clear evidence that you are trying to distort and twist not just what others say but even what YOU yourself said:



ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
Trump presented himself as a champion of coal, oil, and gas, promising to end what he called the "war on coal" and regulatory overreach.


Exactly,


ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
Trump presented himself as a champion of coal, oil, and gas, promising to end what he called the "war on coal" and regulatory overreach.


Then I went to highlight the coal jobs figures.

You can't handle it, so you're trying to deflect to something us, as usual.

Do better.


He did end the war on coal.  And gas and oil.

What the markets do AFTER the red and green tape is rolled back is another matter. After all, he didnt say he'd nationalise and mandate coal.


Trump made repeated promises during his 2016 presidential campaign to bring back coal jobs and revive the coal industry, particularly in states like West Virginia, Kentucky, and Pennsylvania. This was part of his broader message of economic revitalisation for regions affected by the decline of traditional industries.

He left the industry worse off after leaving office.

And you want to blame market forces?

Are you offering Biden the same luxury with inflation and the economy?

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