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Title: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Leroy on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 8:38pm
Time to cancel Manchin.
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Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Dnarever on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:14pm
Manchin has been a republican in all but name since the beginning. He is politically to the right of most republicans. He was one of the most corporate of corporate democrats. He came from Oil he owned oil and he mostly legislated for oil, he did deals for oil and he blocked moves against oil.
Manchin scuttled much of Bidens early initiatives, he could be the reason that the US have a convicted criminal and former failed President about to illegitimately take office in clear breach of the constitution. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by lee on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:56pm
So did Manchin vote republican during Joe's term of office? The answer will shock Dnarever.
He voted against three times during Biden's term. The last one when the Dem's tried to take control of the National Labor Relations Board in a desperate move this month. And two Nay votes were won by Biden anyway. ;) |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Leroy on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 10:44pm lee wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:56pm:
It goes without saying that Manchin does not tow the party line so therefore he eats babies with Trump. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Dnarever on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 11:26pm lee wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:56pm:
Manchin negotiated all the substance out of one Biden policy after the next. A number of biden policies were not put forward when Manchen determined that he would vote against them. These were all removed from Build Back Better. Quote:
Manchin went on FOX news to announce that he was going to cut the Build Back Better spending in half. He then had coal industry green initiatives removed from the bill. (His family is involved in the coal industry), He killed child tax credits. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Dnarever on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 11:28pm Leroy wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 10:44pm:
Nobody ever said that either eat babies. Though one is a criminal insurrectionist sex offender and the other was a DINO. Maybe they were both DINO's. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Leroy on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 11:39pm Dnarever wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 11:28pm:
Its just a metaphor, you know like haters are going to hate. Thats why he is calling them toxic, instead of looking at why he made the comments and reassuring the voters they will accept criticism they attack him and don't address the actual issue. that is the actions of someone like Putin, he too does not take criticism very well. This will be followed by some dog whistle about Trump. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Marla on Dec 24th, 2024 at 3:07am Leroy wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 8:38pm:
Dumbass RuZzian bot. Manchin was never a Democrat. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by lee on Dec 24th, 2024 at 1:46pm Dnarever wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 11:26pm:
Ah yes. Green energy. That magic elixir. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 24th, 2024 at 2:06pm Toxic party? :-/ Matt Gaetz ethics report says his drug use and sex with a minor violated state laws Former Rep. Matt Gaetz, a Florida Republican who briefly stood to become President-elect Donald Trump's nominee to be attorney general, was found by congressional ethics investigators to have paid numerous women — including a 17-year-old girl — for sex, and to have purchased and used illegal drugs, including from his Capitol Hill office. "The Committee determined there is substantial evidence that Representative Gaetz violated House Rules and other standards of conduct prohibiting prostitution, statutory rape, illicit drug use, impermissible gifts, special favors or privileges, and obstruction of Congress," the 37-page report concludes. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Dnarever on Dec 24th, 2024 at 6:52pm Leroy wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 11:39pm:
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You know that every topic doesn't have to come back to Trump right ? |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by lee on Dec 24th, 2024 at 7:20pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 2:06pm:
"The District Of Columbia Age of Consent is 16 years old. In the United States, the age of consent is the minimum age at which an individual is considered legally old enough to consent to participation in sexual activity. Individuals aged 15 or younger in District Of Columbia are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, and such activity may result in prosecution for statutory rape." https://www.ageofconsent.net/states/district-of-columbia It seems the Committee shot its load early. ;) |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 24th, 2024 at 7:41pm lee wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 7:20pm:
Nobody mentioned age of consent. The allegation is that he had sex with a child. A 17 year old is a child, not an adult. Seems you shot your load early. Leroy wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:24am:
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Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by lee on Dec 24th, 2024 at 7:48pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 7:41pm:
No it is 16 in most states. However, further research shows it was in Florida, which has an 18 year age of consent. You can have sex in Washington DC with a 17 year old, and no penalty. I hope I cleared that up for you. ;) |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 24th, 2024 at 7:49pm lee wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 7:48pm:
You're confusing 'age of consent' with 'adulthood'. Nobody, absolutely nobody, mentioned age of consent. The allegation is that he had sex with a child/minor. A 17 year old is a child, not an adult. "In the United States, a minor is any individual under the specified “age of majority” for their state or territory., All states define an age of majority, which is usually set at 18, but states like Indiana and Mississippi set it at 21, while in Alabama, Colorado, Maryland, or Nebraska, the age of majority is 19." He buggered a minor. Leroy wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:24am:
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Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Dnarever on Dec 24th, 2024 at 7:52pm lee wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 7:48pm:
Probably the reason the charge was going to be Transportation Of Minors. Quote:
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Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 24th, 2024 at 7:54pm Dnarever wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 7:52pm:
Lee is confusing 'age of consent' with 'adulthood'. "In the United States, a minor is any individual under the specified “age of majority” for their state or territory., All states define an age of majority, which is usually set at 18, but states like Indiana and Mississippi set it at 21, while in Alabama, Colorado, Maryland, or Nebraska, the age of majority is 19." Gaetz had sex with a minor. A child. That's statutory rape. "The Committee determined there is substantial evidence that Representative Gaetz violated House Rules and other standards of conduct prohibiting prostitution, statutory rape, illicit drug use, impermissible gifts, special favors or privileges, and obstruction of Congress," the 37-page report concludes. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by lee on Dec 25th, 2024 at 1:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 7:54pm:
Nope. greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 7:54pm:
Statutory rape is a rape that is against the statute (state law). The state law lays the age of consent. Anything under the age of consent is statutory rape. From the report - "Representative Gaetz’s statutory rape of Victim A was a violation of Florida law, the Code of Official Conduct, and the Code of Ethics for Government Service. The Committee received evidence that Representative Gaetz did not learn that Victim A was 17 years old until more than a month after their first sexual encounters. However, statutory rape is a strict liability crime. [highlight]After he learned that Victim A was a minor, he maintained contact and less than 6 months after she turned 18, he met up with her again for commercial sex." "Under Florida’s statutory rape law, it is a felony for a person 24 years of age or older to engage in sexual activity with a 16- or 17-year-old.17 A person charged with this offense may not claim ignorance or misrepresentation of the minor’s age as a defense." https://ethics.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Committee-Report.pdf |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Karnal on Dec 25th, 2024 at 9:13pm lee wrote on Dec 25th, 2024 at 1:28pm:
Lee's no Matt Gaetz supporter, oh no, as you can see. Still, he's all good with a bit of kiddie fiddling, sex trafficking, plying them with drugs, all that, it's all good. Lee's no Jeff Epstein supporter either, and no, he's certainly no Trump man, certainly not. It's just a bit of statutory rape, that's all, but do you know? Hunter Biden needs to be LOCKED UP. VENGEANCE !!! |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by lee on Dec 26th, 2024 at 12:03pm
Poor Karny, let nothing get in the way of a good story. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 26th, 2024 at 1:28pm Karnal wrote on Dec 25th, 2024 at 9:13pm:
Indeed. Gaetz is only accused of having sex with a child and spending $100,000 on hookers and blow. Meh. Hunter has a laptop! :o |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Karnal on Dec 26th, 2024 at 6:41pm lee wrote on Dec 26th, 2024 at 12:03pm:
Oh, I know. It's not rape, you understand, just a harmless felony. Quote:
As you can see, anybody is free to go to Florida, groom a 17 year old online, pay for her ticket to Fort Lauderdale, loosen her up with a few Es and bone her til she's dry. Nothing to see here, leftards. It's only statutory rape. Lee said. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by lee on Dec 26th, 2024 at 6:45pm Karnal wrote on Dec 26th, 2024 at 6:41pm:
Nope I never. Why do you have this compulsion to lie? ::) |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 26th, 2024 at 8:50pm Karnal wrote on Dec 26th, 2024 at 6:41pm:
We'll have to check with Leroy on this one. Leroy wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:24am:
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Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Leroy on Dec 26th, 2024 at 10:07pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 26th, 2024 at 8:50pm:
About 11 on the "Trump derangement syndrome" detector. With a slight "sexual deviant" twist. All in all confirmed. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Jasin on Dec 26th, 2024 at 10:33pm Dnarever wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:14pm:
Clutching at straws as usual Daffy |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Jasin on Dec 26th, 2024 at 10:37pm
Democrats are like those who congregate at Monk's Troll Cave Forum.
Toxic losers who come here with nothing much to offer. Just like Biden, who was asleep at the wheel the whole time. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Karnal on Dec 27th, 2024 at 1:13am lee wrote on Dec 26th, 2024 at 6:45pm:
Ooh-er, looks like we have a fibber in our midst. lee wrote on Dec 25th, 2024 at 1:28pm:
The SM's a bit of a bullshitartist. The Real Americans vibe with that. They enjoy a bit of paedophilia. Lee's no Trump-man, he's just saying. Anything to skirt the regulations, throw out the playbook and overturn all rules, laws and articles including those found in the Constitution. Rule of law, innit. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by John Smith on Dec 27th, 2024 at 6:04am lee wrote on Dec 25th, 2024 at 1:28pm:
Sure you did :D |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by lee on Dec 27th, 2024 at 11:52am Karnal wrote on Dec 27th, 2024 at 1:13am:
Yes you are. Karnal wrote on Dec 27th, 2024 at 1:13am:
You don't even understand the statutory rape law. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 27th, 2024 at 11:59am Toxic! “The committee concluded there was substantial evidence that Representative Gaetz violated House Rules, state and federal laws, and other standards of conduct prohibiting prostitution, statutory rape, illicit drug use, acceptance of impermissible gifts, the provision of special favors and privileges, and obstruction of Congress,” the report says. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by lee on Dec 27th, 2024 at 1:39pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 27th, 2024 at 11:59am:
Well you can be comforted by the fact you now KNOW something about statutory rape. ;) |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 27th, 2024 at 1:49pm lee wrote on Dec 27th, 2024 at 1:39pm:
Yes: Matt Gaetz is accused of it. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by lee on Dec 27th, 2024 at 2:48pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 27th, 2024 at 1:49pm:
And now you know what it is. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 27th, 2024 at 2:51pm lee wrote on Dec 27th, 2024 at 2:48pm:
Yes. It's a vile little creep. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by lee on Dec 27th, 2024 at 2:59pm
So good to know that you still have the capacity to learn something. ;)
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Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 27th, 2024 at 3:02pm lee wrote on Dec 27th, 2024 at 2:59pm:
*Never too old, lee. *I'm guessing those words have never been uttered by Matt Gaetz. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Karnal on Dec 28th, 2024 at 1:29am lee wrote on Dec 27th, 2024 at 11:52am:
But we all know a pedo-enabler when we see one. And that's okay. You're no Trump-man, Lee. You're BUSTED. Do you deny it? That's a question. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Jasin on Dec 28th, 2024 at 8:48am
This Forum's #1 creep Peccary, virtue signalling himself by calling others creeps.
😆😂🤣 |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by lee on Dec 28th, 2024 at 12:45pm Karnal wrote on Dec 28th, 2024 at 1:29am:
Ah. How does just seeing someone give you such knowledge? Interested people want to know. ::) |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Frank on Dec 28th, 2024 at 1:45pm Karnal wrote on Dec 28th, 2024 at 1:29am:
You say it like it's a bad thing, pantaloon sniffer. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Karnal on Dec 28th, 2024 at 7:08pm lee wrote on Dec 28th, 2024 at 12:45pm:
Why, when we read their views, Lee, written down in this very thread for all to see. Are you saying you don't defend the crime of statutory rape? No worries. Would you care to inform the leftards here what Matt Gaetz has done wrong? Cheers. |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by lee on Dec 28th, 2024 at 7:22pm Karnal wrote on Dec 28th, 2024 at 7:08pm:
So where did you see his views exactly? I have seen views attributable to Ethics House Committee. ::) Karnal wrote on Dec 28th, 2024 at 7:08pm:
It is a crime. Why would you think I am lenient on that? Karnal wrote on Dec 28th, 2024 at 7:08pm:
From what has been loosed by the House Ethics Committee, he has done much wrong. Did you think because I asked logical questions that was to make him exculpable? Oh dear, another who reads between the lines and gets it wrong. A real Nostra Dumb Ass. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by Karnal on Dec 28th, 2024 at 7:30pm Frank wrote on Dec 28th, 2024 at 1:45pm:
A bad thing, you say? Enabling pedophiles? Why yes, dear boy. We were all informed that your DL was going to swoop to power on Day One and announce the Storm - the global mass arrest of all statutory rapists in high profile positions of power across the globe. DEEP STATE !!! Are you suggesting that your DL secretly intended to appoint a statutory rapist Attorney General, let bygones be bygones, nothing to see here and that's that? How diabolically cunning, but do you know? I'm sure Lee will have something to say about such an abrupt about-face. Lee, you see, is virtuous. He wouldn't dream of tolerating such sheer, unabashed hypocrisy. Oh no, never ever, not on Lee's watch. You? |
Title: Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 28th, 2024 at 8:45pm Karnal wrote on Dec 28th, 2024 at 7:30pm:
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