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Title: About bloody time! Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 18th, 2024 at 10:10am
Took the Americans long enough. Lets hope it's not a case of too little too late!
https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/us-gives-blessing-for-ukraine-to-use-americansupplied-longrange-missiles-to-hit-russia/news-story/cd92b2dfc966e9f0118f57144194998a |
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18th, 2024 at 10:59am "It follows a massive attack by Russia on Ukraine’s electricity grid, which killed at least 19 civilians, including a child, and sparked widespread power outages." |
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by Frank on Nov 18th, 2024 at 11:01am Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 10:10am:
Is that you, Liz Chaney? Foreva wars foreva!! What IS the Western war aim In Ukraine?? Nation building like in Afghanistan? Or just exhausting and decimating Ukraine by supplying enough Western arms to it to keep going but not enough to defeat Russia?? What would a Ukrainian victory look like? How is the West aiming to achieve it? |
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by tallowood on Nov 18th, 2024 at 11:13am Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 10:10am:
It means more destruction in Ukraine. Yesterday massive attack against Ukraine was just preventive prelude. Joe Biden wants to see war to last Ukrainian and Trump too late with his peace initiative. |
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 18th, 2024 at 11:21am Frank wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 11:01am:
What is wrong with you? What do you have against a democratic nation being given the means to defend itself from an illegal Russian invasion? |
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18th, 2024 at 11:24am Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 11:21am:
It's quite obvious that Frank - much like the rapist he admires - is on Putin's side. |
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by Frank on Nov 18th, 2024 at 12:59pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 11:21am:
Ukraine is being devastated in order to save it. What is the Western endgame here? It is obviously not important enough to commit troops and the full military might of the West. So what is the West aiming to achieve and what is it achieving? Please explain. Here's a take on it: New Attorney General Matt Gaetz says what everyone else is too afraid to say, The Ukraine War is “to launder money through” Matt Gaetz “I think that the reason we are as involved in Ukraine as we are is because Afghanistan wound down. If we still had Afghanistan to launder money through, there probably wouldn't be the need for this type of excessive involvement in Ukraine. But I think we can look at Afghanistan and we can look at what's going on here and say, what a lot of these defense contractors are pushing toward is how to have an extended kind of low yield war. Like if there's a way to stretch this thing out, turn it into a 20, 30 year kind of thing where there's a whole lot of money moving around and unaccountable pots and a lot of weapons getting bought and then all man the stockpiles well we got to spend more money to reload those” American Wars are looking for Longterm Unaccountable Money Laundering https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1858268817874735264 Please explain. |
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:16am Frank wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 12:59pm:
Matt Gaetz is a moron and he is saying that not because other people are too afraid to say it, but solely because he is a moron. Did you see the US and allies throughout Europe throw weapons and cash at Ukraine when Russia first invaded Crimea ten years ago? No, you didn't because they didn't. This alone destroys your credibility and Gaetz's - not that he ever had any. The difference now is that Russia is mounting a full-scale invasion, unlike what they did in 2014, which was still wrong but was localised to one region. The people of Ukraine have every right to defend their nation and the US and allies such as Australia have every right to supply Ukraine with the means to do that. |
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by Jasin on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:26am
USA have made the Ukraine like Cuba was to the Soviets.
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by Frank on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:16am Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:16am:
Ukraine is being devastated in order to save it. What is the Western endgame here? It is obviously not important enough to commit troops and the full military might of the West. So what is the West aiming to achieve and what is it achieving? Please explain. Also - in 2014 the West was still in Afghanistan and fighting ISIS in another forever war. |
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:40am
You'll have to ask Putin what the 'Western Endgame' is - just making a dollar while making a point....
'Ras' is clearly an idiot - smart but an idiot - as I said earlier here - haven't the Russian people - and add in the Ukraines - suffered enough already? They surely need an overhaul of THEIR government - and we think we've got it bad. Gangster capitalism and gangster government go hand in hand, and our current underlying and unspoken fight is to prevent our 'great leaders' from going down the same path - total control to suit themselves and the 'right' to use every aspect of society to retain power ... very Feudal and medieval and so in keeping with many of our recent Import 'politicians' and business people who come from such semi-Feudal countries and feel Entitled™ to install that rubbish here. Give us - and them - a break. At school one of our group of hooligans (well - civilised hooligans and the mainstay of the school Rugby side and in the highest IQ group) was of Russian parentage ... nobody thought him different from anyone else... just another refugee family in a nation of refugees. |
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by Frank on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:47am Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:40am:
Who is going to militarily eject Russia from Donbas? The US and the Western alliance couldn't prevail even over bearded goat-fancier with fertiliser in Afghanistan. Twenty years of war and 'nation building' and nothing to show for it. The last war the US won was in 1945 and that was with massive Russian assistance. |
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by tallowood on Nov 19th, 2024 at 9:01am Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 11:21am:
Post maidan Ukraine is anything but democratic. Criminals overthrew democratically elected government in 2014, then they prohibited opposition parties and started war in the east against those who would not agree with them. Now they have dictator in Kiev who was not reelected and the Rada (parliament) was not reelected either. Post maidan Ukraine is anything but democratic. |
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 19th, 2024 at 9:51am Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:16am:
Well said. Also, Matt Gaetz isn't the new Attorney General. But by God, he sure is a moron. |
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by philperth2010 on Nov 19th, 2024 at 10:33am
Ukraine are using weapons supplied by those who see Putin's push into Europe as a war on democracy and a warning that NATO will stand firm against Russian aggression....Putin claims using long range American weapons would bring on WW3....To support his argument that the West are escalating and interfering in the War Putin has called up Noth Korean troops to escalate and interfere in a war Russia started....The hypocricy of Putin is not suprising and neither is the support from extremist supporters of Putins war!!!
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by tallowood on Nov 19th, 2024 at 11:16am Quote:
LOL |
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by tallowood on Nov 19th, 2024 at 11:19am
Foreign troops in Ukraine
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by Frank on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:17pm
About bloody time!!
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:20pm
Kinda makes you proud to be of part-Danish ancestry... and annoyed to be so long in the bluetooth.
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by Frank on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:38pm
Miss Denmark is the new Miss Universe. Probably the first blonde, blue eyed white girl to win in ages. And she doesn’t have a dong. It’s the Trump Effect.
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:44pm Frank wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:38pm:
Because Trump doesn't have a dong? :-/ |
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Title: Re: About bloody time! Post by Frank on Nov 19th, 2024 at 9:14pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:44pm:
You ARE a witless, manic eejit, unflushable. When are you pissing off, as you promised, repeatedly? |
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