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Message started by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 17th, 2024 at 7:39am

Title: They're flooding the fields...
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 17th, 2024 at 7:39am
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/researchers-testing-cost-of-regenerating-mangrove-wetlands/vi-AA1tJqCZ?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=bf078d946e374504e486fc05c086982a&ei=37#details

They're re-generating mangrove swamps by flooding disused cane fields up there (Kazaly).

Keep an eye on this one.

"Researchers on Queensland’s Sunshine Coast are helping the federal government put a price on nature. They're letting tidal water into disused cane farms to inform a new market focussed on rebuilding ecosystems."


'bush medicine/gathering place/nature repair market for investors' ............ v-e-r-y interesting.... might have to alter the name of the New State there to Malaria - all that skeeter habitat restored...
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Title: Re: They're flooding the fields...
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:49pm
That is excellent news.

Title: Re: They're flooding the fields...
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:30pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:49pm:
That is excellent news.


It might show some benefits... as long as it doesn't just become another Exclusion Zone.  I'd be interested to hear what this 'bush medicine' is, and what benefits there are from mangrove swamps... as a 'gathering place' they're a bit hard to walk through with all those shoots and such - need White Man's Boots... Das Boots!!

Title: Re: They're flooding the fields...
Post by tallowood on Nov 19th, 2024 at 6:31pm

Mangrove Restoration: Challenges and Opportunities

Title: Re: They're flooding the fields...
Post by tallowood on Nov 19th, 2024 at 6:36pm

Quote:
I'd be interested to hear what this 'bush medicine' is, and what benefits there are from mangrove swamps


The antibacterial activity of the leaves and bark of mangrove plants, Avicennia marina, A. officinalis, Bruguiera sexangula, Exoecaria agallocha, Lumnitzera racemosa, and Rhizophora apiculata was evaluated against antibiotic resistant pathogenic bacteria, Staphylococcus aureus and Proteus sp.

Title: Re: They're flooding the fields...
Post by tallowood on Nov 19th, 2024 at 6:49pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:30pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:49pm:
That is excellent news.


It might show some benefits... as long as it doesn't just become another Exclusion Zone.  I'd be interested to hear what this 'bush medicine' is, and what benefits there are from mangrove swamps... as a 'gathering place' they're a bit hard to walk through with all those shoots and such - need White Man's Boots... Das Boots!!




Mangrove oyster shells easy cut through boat's plastic.
But good eating. I always collect them when kayak fishing.







Title: Re: They're flooding the fields...
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:44pm
They're flooding the fields........ they're drowning the land ....  they're making it wet.... for the people who... LIVE there....

Did it work against golden staph?

Title: Re: They're flooding the fields...
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:51pm
They're flooding the fields
They're drowning the land 
They're making it wet
For the people who... LIVE there....

They're eating the oysters
They're eating the crabs
They're eating the fish
Of the people who... LIVE there.....

People of Queensland
Please don't eat my crabs,
Don't all be scabs,
Leave some for me...

North up from Brisbane
Please don't eat my fish
Just make a wish
The stocks will grow....

They're eating the crays
They're eating the crabs
They're eating the fish
Of the people who... LIVE there.....

Mangrove flooders
Please don't eat my crays
There must be ways
To let 'em breed....

They're eating the stocks
They're eating the schools
They're eating them out
Now those people all .. LIVE there....

They're eating the crays
They're eating the crabs
They're eating the oysters
They're eating the fish...
They're eating the lot
Everything that... LIVES there.....

Title: Re: They're flooding the fields...
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 19th, 2024 at 11:16pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:30pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:49pm:
That is excellent news.


It might show some benefits... as long as it doesn't just become another Exclusion Zone.  I'd be interested to hear what this 'bush medicine' is, and what benefits there are from mangrove swamps... as a 'gathering place' they're a bit hard to walk through with all those shoots and such - need White Man's Boots... Das Boots!!


You have not lived unless you have walked through one.

1 sq metre of mangrove has the potential to 100kg of food being gathered.

Title: Re: They're flooding the fields...
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 20th, 2024 at 6:23pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 11:16pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:30pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:49pm:
That is excellent news.


It might show some benefits... as long as it doesn't just become another Exclusion Zone.  I'd be interested to hear what this 'bush medicine' is, and what benefits there are from mangrove swamps... as a 'gathering place' they're a bit hard to walk through with all those shoots and such - need White Man's Boots... Das Boots!!


You have not lived unless you have walked through one.

1 sq metre of mangrove has the potential to 100kg of food being gathered.


What kind of food?  Crabs, oysters... maybe a fish if you can catch one.. what else to attain  (distant thunder)..... that balanced diet.... not too protein-heavy - not too light - but just right?

When you insert the word potential I see red lights..... 'ow d'ya know?  'Ow Do Ya KNOW?!?  'Cause Errol or Beryl told ya so?  You like mud?  Bamboo shoots are edible, but are mangrove shoots?

Title: Re: They're flooding the fields...
Post by tallowood on Nov 21st, 2024 at 11:17am

Quote:
They're re-generating mangrove swamps by flooding disused cane fields


As far as food source concerned with regenerated fields have to be careful if any pesticides or herbicides was previously used as some poisons can be very persistent and stay potent for long time.

Title: Re: They're flooding the fields...
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 4:02pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 6:23pm:
What kind of food?  Crabs, oysters... maybe a fish if you can catch one.. what else to attain  (distant thunder)..... that balanced diet.... not too protein-heavy - not too light - but just right?

When you insert the word potential I see red lights..... 'ow d'ya know?  'Ow Do Ya KNOW?!?  'Cause Errol or Beryl told ya so?  You like mud?  Bamboo shoots are edible, but are mangrove shoots?


A couple of months ago, I went to Yeppoon and drove from that town to the Causeway Lake. Over the bridge, there is a place called "Cool Waters", where I stayed with my year 8 classmates for school camp. In the area, are mangroves.

About 20 of us boys went with us to the mangroves nearby, with the physical education teacher. I thought he was taking us to show off his genitalia. How lucky (and relieved) we all were to find out that he was giving us a lesson in how the mangroves operate. Very slowly.

Among the lessons taught were the idea that mangroves have the potential to house a tonne of edible food:-
Some animals that use this habitat type: Mangrove jack, barramundi, snapper, blue threadfin, sea mullet and bream, banana prawn, king prawn; pistol shrimp, fiddler crab, mud crab, mud lobster, mangrove oyster, polychaete worms, estuarine crocodile, white-bellied mangrove snake, little file snake, sea snakes, mangrove monitor, rusty monitor, black flying-fox little red flying-fox of which up grey-headed flying-fox, water mouse, Australian white ibis, royal spoonbill, pied cormorant, little black cormorant, striated (mangrove) heron, eastern reef-egret, great-billed heron, whimbrel, chestnut rail, Brahminy kite, white-bellied sea-eagle little kingfisher, collared (mangrove) kingfisher, mangrove robin, mangrove golden whistler, white-breasted whistler, broad-billed flycatcher; shining flycatcher, mangrove gerygone, red-headed honeyeater, varied honeyeater, black butcherbird and Australian pied imperial pigeon.

Source: https://www.qld.gov.au/environment/plants-animals/habitats/habitat/mangroves#:~:text=Some%20animals%20that%20use%20this,file%20snake%2C%20sea%20snakes%2C%20mangrove

It was one of the best days of my life. We played around in the mud for a while. Then we had an incident where one of the students got a bit too close to an estuarine crocodile, not far from the coast. It was only 2 metres long, so it was not something we would muck about.

Title: Re: They're flooding the fields...
Post by Gnads on Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:04am

tallowood wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 6:49pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:30pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:49pm:
That is excellent news.


It might show some benefits... as long as it doesn't just become another Exclusion Zone.  I'd be interested to hear what this 'bush medicine' is, and what benefits there are from mangrove swamps... as a 'gathering place' they're a bit hard to walk through with all those shoots and such - need White Man's Boots... Das Boots!!




Mangrove oyster shells easy cut through boat's plastic.
But good eating. I always collect them when kayak fishing.







Don't know what state you live in but in QLD it's illegal to collect those oysters as you've done and take them home. Whether in the shell or out.

You are only allowed to eat them on the spot. 

Title: Re: They're flooding the fields...
Post by Gnads on Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:07am

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 11:16pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:30pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:49pm:
That is excellent news.


It might show some benefits... as long as it doesn't just become another Exclusion Zone.  I'd be interested to hear what this 'bush medicine' is, and what benefits there are from mangrove swamps... as a 'gathering place' they're a bit hard to walk through with all those shoots and such - need White Man's Boots... Das Boots!!


You have not lived unless you have walked through one.

1 sq metre of mangrove has the potential to 100kg of food being gathered.


Link?

I call BS. Are these "UnSubrocky" Statistics?  ;D

Title: Re: They're flooding the fields...
Post by Gnads on Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:14am

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 4:02pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 6:23pm:
What kind of food?  Crabs, oysters... maybe a fish if you can catch one.. what else to attain  (distant thunder)..... that balanced diet.... not too protein-heavy - not too light - but just right?

When you insert the word potential I see red lights..... 'ow d'ya know?  'Ow Do Ya KNOW?!?  'Cause Errol or Beryl told ya so?  You like mud?  Bamboo shoots are edible, but are mangrove shoots?


A couple of months ago, I went to Yeppoon and drove from that town to the Causeway Lake. Over the bridge, there is a place called "Cool Waters", where I stayed with my year 8 classmates for school camp. In the area, are mangroves.

About 20 of us boys went with us to the mangroves nearby, with the physical education teacher. I thought he was taking us to show off his genitalia. How lucky (and relieved) we all were to find out that he was giving us a lesson in how the mangroves operate. Very slowly.

Among the lessons taught were the idea that mangroves have the potential to house a tonne of edible food:-
Some animals that use this habitat type: Mangrove jack, barramundi, snapper, blue threadfin, sea mullet and bream, banana prawn, king prawn; pistol shrimp, fiddler crab, mud crab, mud lobster, mangrove oyster, polychaete worms, estuarine crocodile, white-bellied mangrove snake, little file snake, sea snakes, mangrove monitor, rusty monitor, black flying-fox little red flying-fox of which up grey-headed flying-fox, water mouse, Australian white ibis, royal spoonbill, pied cormorant, little black cormorant, striated (mangrove) heron, eastern reef-egret, great-billed heron, whimbrel, chestnut rail, Brahminy kite, white-bellied sea-eagle little kingfisher, collared (mangrove) kingfisher, mangrove robin, mangrove golden whistler, white-breasted whistler, broad-billed flycatcher; shining flycatcher, mangrove gerygone, red-headed honeyeater, varied honeyeater, black butcherbird and Australian pied imperial pigeon.

Source: https://www.qld.gov.au/environment/plants-animals/habitats/habitat/mangroves#:~:text=Some%20animals%20that%20use%20this,file%20snake%2C%20sea%20snakes%2C%20mangrove

It was one of the best days of my life. We played around in the mud for a while. Then we had an incident where one of the students got a bit too close to an estuarine crocodile, not far from the coast. It was only 2 metres long, so it was not something we would muck about.


So what? - many of those animals/birds & creatures are protected species. Many of them you wouldn't eat.

Fish have size & bag limits.

So when you talk of food production - just what foods are you referring to and for who or what?

Title: Re: They're flooding the fields...
Post by tallowood on Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:26am

Gnads wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:04am:

tallowood wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 6:49pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:30pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:49pm:
That is excellent news.


It might show some benefits... as long as it doesn't just become another Exclusion Zone.  I'd be interested to hear what this 'bush medicine' is, and what benefits there are from mangrove swamps... as a 'gathering place' they're a bit hard to walk through with all those shoots and such - need White Man's Boots... Das Boots!!




Mangrove oyster shells easy cut through boat's plastic.
But good eating. I always collect them when kayak fishing.







Don't know what state you live in but in QLD it's illegal to collect those oysters as you've done and take them home. Whether in the shell or out.

You are only allowed to eat them on the spot. 


NSW, that rule apply when near oyster leases but it is good idea to bring shells back to where you get them from so new oysters can grow.

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