LTYC, you'd do well to pay heed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf5MThSniiY&ab_channel=BernieSanders

You're online, LTYC. Had a look?

mothra wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 9:32am:

You're online, LTYC. Had a look?

Nobody could be worse than Genocide Joe Biden.

Donald Trump is a disrupter who may give Netanyahu the boot for dissing Donald.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 9:35am:

mothra wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 9:32am: You're online, LTYC. Had a look? Nobody could be worse than Genocide Joe Biden. Donald Trump is a disrupter who may give Netanyahu the boot for dissing Donald.

Donald Trump has strong-armed the Republicans into denying humanitarian aid to Gaza.

Donald Trump is netanyahu's wet dream.

You didn't watch the video, did you, LTYC?

It's only 6 minutes long. what do you have to fear by watching it?

mothra wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 9:40am:

It's only 6 minutes long. what do you have to fear by watching it?

Stop being a pusher.

Bernie is not genuine. He has one toe in the water and his fingers are crossed behind his back.

You haven't watched it.

mothra wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 9:59am:

You haven't watched it.

I deserve a good spanking.

I watched a few minutes. Bernie is not genuine. He is probably secretly financing settlements.

Alas, LTYC, i fear you have jumped the shark.

Truth be told, it probably happened over Amber Heard but you've really lost it this time.

Shame you prostituted your principles for the greater bad.

The harsh truth about Gaza is that neither a Harris nor a Trump administration will end its destruction.

And, while none will overtly support Israel, Israel's war on Gaza has the covert support of all Sunni Arab regimes in the region - they all want Gaza ended. Hamas rendered Gaza a client of the Shia agitator - Iran - an unforgivable insult to all Sunni regimes.

The region saw what happened after the overthrow of Sadam Husein's Ba'ath Party, and his execution - Iraq was handed to the Shias, thus further expanding Shia influence in the region.

Gaza will be ended and no Sunni regime in the region will mourn its destruction.

A good video from Bernie.

Unfortunately, the first part of the video will be met by the usual cries of "Yeah, but Hamas does bad stuff too"   ::)

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:14am:

A good video from Bernie. Unfortunately, the first part of the video will be met by the usual cries of "Yeah, but Hamas does bad stuff too"   ::)

Or ... "It never would have happened if Hamas didn't start it" ... ignoring both the decades of history and disproportional response.

The question is: Did any of the Sunni regimes in the region have any intel on what Hamas was preparing for?

I'd bet they did.

Maybe not its extent nor the likelihood and extent of its devastation, but anyway, the worse, the better...

Not because any believed Israel would be diminished much less 'driven into the sea', but because, in a worst-case scenario, Israel's response would be so harsh, it would rid the region of Gaza altogether - which is exactly what Israel is doing.

mothra wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:14am: A good video from Bernie. Unfortunately, the first part of the video will be met by the usual cries of "Yeah, but Hamas does bad stuff too"   ::) Or ... "It never would have happened if Hamas didn't start it" ... ignoring both the decades of history and disproportional response.

Their entire justification for killing thousands of women & children is "I know you are but what am I?" and "You started it".

Pathetic.

Bernie's "we will together do everything that we can...".

And what is the "everything" a Harris administration can do against the covert will of the entire bloc of Sunni regimes in the region?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:35am:

mothra wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:14am: A good video from Bernie. Unfortunately, the first part of the video will be met by the usual cries of "Yeah, but Hamas does bad stuff too"   ::) Or ... "It never would have happened if Hamas didn't start it" ... ignoring both the decades of history and disproportional response. Their entire justification for killing thousands of women & children is "I know you are but what am I?" and "You started it". Pathetic.

Bombed all of Gaza's 12 universities. Flattened them.

What's that for then?

mothra wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:37am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:35am: mothra wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:14am: A good video from Bernie. Unfortunately, the first part of the video will be met by the usual cries of "Yeah, but Hamas does bad stuff too"   ::) Or ... "It never would have happened if Hamas didn't start it" ... ignoring both the decades of history and disproportional response. Their entire justification for killing thousands of women & children is "I know you are but what am I?" and "You started it". Pathetic. Bombed all of Gaza's 12 universities. Flattened them. What's that for then?

The complete destruction of Gaza - with the tacit approval of the entire Sunni bloc in the region.

mothra wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:37am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:35am: mothra wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:14am: A good video from Bernie. Unfortunately, the first part of the video will be met by the usual cries of "Yeah, but Hamas does bad stuff too"   ::) Or ... "It never would have happened if Hamas didn't start it" ... ignoring both the decades of history and disproportional response. Their entire justification for killing thousands of women & children is "I know you are but what am I?" and "You started it". Pathetic. Bombed all of Gaza's 12 universities. Flattened them. What's that for then?

Let me guess.

Hamas was hiding in the lecture halls.

mothra wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 5:08am:

LTYC, you'd do well to pay heed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf5MThSniiY&ab_channel=BernieSanders

Why didn't Hamas surrender if the Israeli response is so overwhelming?
Why did they even start it on October 7, knowing how Israel would respond?

Please explain.

mothra wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:14am: A good video from Bernie. Unfortunately, the first part of the video will be met by the usual cries of "Yeah, but Hamas does bad stuff too"   ::) Or ... "It never would have happened if Hamas didn't start it" ... ignoring both the decades of history and disproportional response.

So a murderous pogrom against innocents  and hostage taking, followed by a year long war, is the answer?? Really?

mothra wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:14am: A good video from Bernie. Unfortunately, the first part of the video will be met by the usual cries of "Yeah, but Hamas does bad stuff too"   ::) Or ... "It never would have happened if Hamas didn't start it" ... ignoring both the decades of history and disproportional response.

Right on cue:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1730488121/18#18

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 12:38pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:14am: A good video from Bernie. Unfortunately, the first part of the video will be met by the usual cries of "Yeah, but Hamas does bad stuff too"   ::) Or ... "It never would have happened if Hamas didn't start it" ... ignoring both the decades of history and disproportional response. Right on cue: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1730488121/18#18

So a murderous pogrom against innocents  and hostage taking, followed by a year long war, is the answer?? Really?

Frank wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 12:32pm:

Why did they even start it on October 7, knowing how Israel would respond?

The innocent men, women, children and newborn babies didn't start anything.

Well, I guess the newborn babies had just started living but Netanyahu and the IDF put an end to that when they deliberately targeted maternity hospitals.

If Bernie was serious he would have condemned Genocide Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 12:45pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 12:32pm: Why did they even start it on October 7, knowing how Israel would respond? The innocent men, women, children and newborn babies didn't start anything. Well, I guess the newborn babies had just started living but Netanyahu and the IDF put an end to that when they deliberately targeted maternity hospitals.

That was the Hamas plan.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 12:31pm:

Quote: Bombed all of Gaza's 12 universities. Flattened them. What's that for then? Let me guess. Hamas was hiding in the lecture halls.

They're part of key infrastructure in Gaza which Israel, with the full tacit support of all Sunni regimes in the region, needs to have gone.

Make no mistake, the Sunni regimes in the region will not shed one tear for the Palestinian 'traitors' to the Sunni cause - by their prostituting themselves to the Shias - down to the deaths of every man, woman and child in Gaza.

This sends a visceral message to the Shias - and other would-be and current Sunni traitors - that 'they shall not prevail'.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 12:52pm:

If Bernie was serious he would have condemned Genocide Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

You're forgetting the region's Sunni regimes.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 1:49pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 12:52pm: If Bernie was serious he would have condemned Genocide Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. You're forgetting the region's Sunni regimes.

I am trying to forget them.

A key factor that fuels Israel's continuing warming relations with the region's Sunni states is that beyond the, relatively minuscule, contested territory that Israel claims as historically its own, it has no interest in expanding into Arab lands and no interest in weighing into the Sunni-Shia divide.

Israel's respect for, and security of, the Al-Aqsa mosque and The Dome of the Rock (Qubbat al-Sakhra) has, over the years, eased anxieties that Israeli rule in the West Bank will threaten them.

Arab-Israelis, despite tensions with Jewish Israelis, enjoy a standard of living and freedoms beyond those that most Arabs enjoy in Arab-ruled countries - further confirming that all Arabs would fare better via peace with Israel than with war.

And, finally, Israel is perceived as a powerful nation - something that commands respect throughout Asia - that an Arab-Israeli alliance would elevate the prestige, and enhance the authority and influence, of all states so aligned.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 1:56pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 1:49pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 12:52pm: If Bernie was serious he would have condemned Genocide Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. You're forgetting the region's Sunni regimes. I am trying to forget them.

So, a case of close your eyes? What you can't see won't hurt you?

Frank wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 12:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 12:45pm: Frank wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 12:32pm: Why did they even start it on October 7, knowing how Israel would respond? The innocent men, women, children and newborn babies didn't start anything. Well, I guess the newborn babies had just started living but Netanyahu and the IDF put an end to that when they deliberately targeted maternity hospitals. That was the Hamas plan.

The women and babies were murdered by the IDF. 

Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 9:50am:

mothra wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 9:40am: It's only 6 minutes long. what do you have to fear by watching it? Stop being a pusher. Bernie is not genuine. He has one toe in the water and his fingers are crossed behind his back.

Bernie is the most genuine person in Congress.

His only failing is his capture by mainstream economics, which sets up a conflict between government spending, and taxes.

And it's mainstream economics - with its scant regard for the victims of the rust belt - which is the reason why Trump is even competitive in the race for the WH.

A cogent argument by Bernie in the video, trying to stop waverers (Arabs and blue-collar workers)  in the critical rust-belt states going to Trump. 






 

Frank wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 12:32pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 5:08am: LTYC, you'd do well to pay heed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf5MThSniiY&ab_channel=BernieSanders Why didn't Hamas surrender if the Israeli response is so overwhelming? Why did they even start it on October 7, knowing how Israel would respond? Please explain.

because Hamas are prepared to die for a Palestinian state, the establishment of which is fast becoming a mirage  as Israel cozies up to S. Arabia and other Muslim states, while expanding WB settlements.

(now the parrot disagrees with you, unlike in the Trump-Cheney 'death threat' controversy...).   

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 2:34pm:

Hamas are prepared to die for a Palestinian state

Hamas Islamists are prepared to die for the destruction of Israel and the reestablishment of an Islamic Caliphate, not for a Palestinian state.

To Hamas. Palestinians are the cannon fodder for those causes, nothing more.

mothra wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 5:08am:

LTYC, you'd do well to pay heed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf5MThSniiY&ab_channel=BernieSanders

Laugh? He's a Putin patsy. The Palestinian flag's for show. Laugh's joined the Trump train. He's now with Bobby, Frank and Yadda over at Chez Gordon's, living the life, rent paid.

They've had to temper their views too. They've had to become obedient pro-lifers (or in the old boy's case, pro-death). They have to love guns, hate trade, love tariffs, hate the poor. They're obliged to look up every Tom, Dick and Harry's skirt, burn books, ban bottoms, love lies and hate facts. They've always despised immigrants, even when they were once the poor, huddled masses yearning to breathe free themselves.

We gave them this freedom and this is what we get. We gave them education, sympathy, income and mental health support, the lot. We patiently explained the facts, page after page on this board devoted to them. They responded with memes, meltdowns and mindless unrelated Bible quotes with no point at all.

Laugh's signed up for the lot. He accepts Bernie's facts in full. Of course DL's going to be worse for Gaza, Laugh knows that. He's got a one-word response to defend his conversion: disrupter. Of course no one gets it. It's impossible to get.

Presumably, we're supposed to look enigmatically into the distance, stroke our chins and savour the sheer cunning of it all. Disruption.

Let's encourage Netanyahu to go wild. Let's give Putin Eastern Europe and China the Pacific. Let's start a global trade war. Let's ban immigration. Let's abandon all emissions targets and hit the boiling point of no return by 2060.

The US election makes it clear. We don't have economic or technical problems, we have a political problem. We've solved many of our most pressing social problems. Unemployment, crime, infant mortality, disease and a whole host of symptoms are at record historic lows in the developed world. We haven't been at war for the longest period in our history. The problem we face now?

Disruption. The biggest act of political self-destruction ever - bigger even than fascism. Hitler, Mussolini, Tito and Franco were never elected fair and square, they came to power through various forms of coups. These regimes were a response to economic upheaval and war. 

In the US, we now have half a population walking willingly, if blindly, towards authoritarianism without any force, economic upheaval or war at all. There are no domestic wars, the economy is the best shape in years, crime has never been lower, all facts.

The authoritarian conditions are manufactured - tabloid hyperbole over trans athletes and and AI-generated clickbait on immigrant pet-eaters. The social media algorithms feed the clickbait, radicalizing users even further. The mainstream media buys in, either echoing it on Fox/Newsmax, or playing whack-a-mole on straight news sources.

Unfortunately for reality, the fact-checked straight news media gets caught in the journalistic game of presenting both sides of a story, as if each side had equal merit. The fakers love this, acting all butthurt when they get caught out, but knowing it'll all come out in the wash.

This process of disruption is not started by one politician or celebrity, but it is exploited by one. It's also funded, backed and propagated by a foreign criminal adversary, one who's been in the business of fake news and social control for over 20 years, who even used fake news to come to power. The disruption is mediated by useful idiots like Tucker and the up and coming social media influencers getting paid to get the message out. Some have been exposed. Others remain at large.

Laugh's DL is no mere disrupter. He has a Master too. Both are working overtime to save each other from the fate of all fascist disrupters: downfall.

Laugh knows. He used to be a bit of a disrupter himself. Now he's on the train, his heart belongs to Daddy. He's all Vlad's.

Ever get the feeling you've been dis-ruptured?

Melanias purse wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 5:28pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 5:08am: LTYC, you'd do well to pay heed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf5MThSniiY&ab_channel=BernieSanders Laugh? He's a Putin patsy. The Palestinian flag's for show. Laugh's joined the Trump train. He's now with Bobby, Frank and Yadda over at Chez Gordon's, living the life, rent paid. They've had to temper their views too. They've had to become obedient pro-lifers (or in the old boy's case, pro-death). They have to love guns, hate trade, love tariffs, hate the poor. They're obliged to look up every Tom, Dick and Harry's skirt, burn books, ban bottoms, love lies and hate facts. They've always despised immigrants, even when they were once the poor, huddled masses yearning to breathe free themselves. We gave them this freedom and this is what we get. We gave them education, sympathy, income and mental health support, the lot. We patiently explained the facts, page after page on this board devoted to them. They responded with memes, meltdowns and mindless unrelated Bible quotes with no point at all. Laugh's signed up for the lot. He accepts Bernie's facts in full. Of course DL's going to be worse for Gaza, Laugh knows that. He's got a one-word response to defend his conversion: disrupter. Of course no one gets it. It's impossible to get. Presumably, we're supposed to look enigmatically into the distance, stroke our chins and savour the sheer cunning of it all. Disruption. Let's encourage Netanyahu to go wild. Let's give Putin Eastern Europe and China the Pacific. Let's start a global trade war. Let's ban immigration. Let's abandon all emissions targets and hit the boiling point of no return by 2060. The US election makes it clear. We don't have economic or technical problems, we have a political problem. We've solved many of our most pressing social problems. Unemployment, crime, infant mortality, disease and a whole host of symptoms are at record historic lows in the developed world. We haven't been at war for the longest period in our history. The problem we face now? Disruption. The biggest act of political self-destruction ever - bigger even than fascism. Hitler, Mussolini, Tito and Franco were never elected fair and square, they came to power through various forms of coups. These regimes were a response to economic upheaval and war.  In the US, we now have half a population walking willingly, if blindly, towards authoritarianism without any force, economic upheaval or war at all. There are no domestic wars, the economy is the best shape in years, crime has never been lower, all facts. The authoritarian conditions are manufactured - tabloid hyperbole over trans athletes and and AI-generated clickbait on immigrant pet-eaters. The social media algorithms feed the clickbait, radicalizing users even further. The mainstream media buys in, either echoing it on Fox/Newsmax, or playing whack-a-mole on straight news sources. Unfortunately for reality, the fact-checked straight news media gets caught in the journalistic game of presenting both sides of a story, as if each side had equal merit. The fakers love this, acting all butthurt when they get caught out, but knowing it'll all come out in the wash. This process of disruption is not started by one politician or celebrity, but it is exploited by one. It's also funded, backed and propagated by a foreign criminal adversary, one who's been in the business of fake news and social control for over 20 years, who even used fake news to come to power. The disruption is mediated by useful idiots like Tucker and the up and coming social media influencers getting paid to get the message out. Some have been exposed. Others remain at large. Laugh's DL is no mere disrupter. He has a Master too. Both are working overtime to save each other from the fate of all fascist disrupters: downfall. Laugh knows. He used to be a bit of a disrupter himself. Now he's on the train, his heart belongs to Daddy. He's all Vlad's. Ever get the feeling you've been dis-ruptured?

The long and the short of it:

https://x.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1852164137943433630