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General Discussion >> State and Local >> NT prisoners on remand http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1729547047 Message started by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 22nd, 2024 at 7:44am |
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Title: NT prisoners on remand Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 22nd, 2024 at 7:44am
Honestly - reading this I can't help laughing:-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/the-system-is-at-breaking-point-people-on-remand-in-nt-prisons-endure-record-wait-times/ar-AA1sFAOf?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=801e8d5a6ebf444d897d3487cbc3d027&ei=25#comments "A year ago, locked in a sweltering prison in the heat of the Northern Territory, heavily pregnant Crystal Roberts never thought she would be where she is today. Her son Chase was born behind bars and spent the first 10 months of his life within the confines of a concrete cell. "For a few years I was struggling with a meth addiction," Crystal said. "I tried to get myself into rehab, but there was a wait list." Addiction got the better of Crystal, and she became involved in a drug syndicate that was already under the eye of police. When she was arrested, she was seven months pregnant, and it wasn't her first offence. She was once again facing the harsh realities of the Northern Territory's criminal justice system. Charged and remanded in custody with no trial date in sight, Crystal had no idea if she would be separated from her baby when he was born. In serious cases or when there is a flight risk, judges frequently detain people in jail while they await trial but are still legally innocent. However, in the Northern Territory, courts have been unable to keep pace. They are buckling under the weight of a system many say is in "crisis", leaving a record number of people languishing on remand in hot and overcrowded prisons. An unprecedented number of people are being remanded in custody in the NT, and the average number of days people are spending on remand is longer than ever before. Earlier this month, prisoner numbers in the NT exceeded historical highs, reaching a record of 2,315 inmates, according to corrections data — almost 1 per cent of the territory's population. The number of people on remand also reached an all-time high of 1,052 people. The prison population has steadily risen over the past year, surging by roughly 10 per cent, corrections data shows — largely due to the increase in people on remand. The prisons are so overcrowded, more than 70 people are being kept in watch houses. The incarceration bill, the government said, reached more than $275 million last year – roughly $400 per prisoner per day. Corrections Minister Gerard Maley said he's held "multiple meetings" with the corrections commissioner since coming into office, about prison overcrowding and accommodation options within existing facilities. But ultimately the CLP has promised to build new prisons. While on remand, Crystal said she was treated "worse than a sentenced prisoner". She said prisoners on remand are denied access to rehabilitation and training programs available to convicted prisoners, and some are put into medium security where the cells have no air-conditioning. As her due date approached, she grew increasingly anxious. "I was told that when I had [my baby], he'd be taken from me and that was due to happen on Mother's Day," she said. Gabrielle McMullen's desk is piled high with case files — each representing a child in trouble with the law. She's a youth crime lawyer at the Northern Territory's Legal Aid Commission, which is planning to reduce legal services from next year due to a lack of funding. "I feel like the system is at breaking point," she said. "The strain is immense, the hours are long … the caseloads are extremely high. "There are people sitting in custody who have barely spoken to a lawyer, who have barely received legal advice." Data from NT courts shows young people are also experiencing unprecedented delays in the administration of justice. But Ms McMullen worries long remand times could get even worse after the CLP government last week lowered the age of criminal responsibility to 10 years old. Ms McMullen said witnessing young children waiting in custody was difficult to watch, as a lawyer whose job it is to help. "If they haven't been found guilty, then they've spent a really long time on remand in extremely onerous conditions. That is really psychologically damaging," she said. " More on link. Hmmm - looks like their government is trying to do something about the Crime Epidemic that is causing so many people to be kept in prisons...... either on remand or on conviction.... Hmmmmm ... **day dreams of Aborassic Park and Gondwanamo Bay ... nifty little open air gulags - Aborassic for those willing to go live the traditional way or for serial miscreants who will never learn, the counts ... Gondwanamo for the others... Aborassic peoples earn a few bucks as guards and trackers and dog handlers in the hunt for escapees from Gon'mo... if the crocs don't get them first (git'mo)... we could ship the bad Mussos there... the Pallie supporting violent students etc.... give 'em time to think things through properly... the NT has started on The Midnight Run, shipping kids from Alice Springs to Darwin for incarceration ... Midnight Express .... Night and Fog...** |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Daves2017 on Oct 22nd, 2024 at 11:26pm
Have seen the abc story as well.
If your interested I urge you to not bother searching for it. “our ABC “ will no doubt have the story on repeat for minimum five years or until they find a dwarf with a garden show. On topic, as much as the story is “crafted “ to make our criminal worthy of our pity and support by taxpayers she lost me the moment she said “ I’m not sure if I want to hold my baby, I think I can’t so I got protect myself “ or words that effect. Yes the story is all about her, not the families or life’s ruin or lost from her crimes. She’s the victim? Why, because she got caught? What sort of woman would be more concerned about Herself and protecting herself than holding her own newborn child? Drug dealers are the right up there with child sex abusers as the very, very, bottom dwelling scum of Australian society. She’s a pathetic person who was happy too make money from others suffering till she was caught. Now she’s crying poor me. Ten years in jail would be my reply for her pity me advertising? |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Aurora Complexus on Oct 22nd, 2024 at 11:47pm Daves2017 wrote on Oct 22nd, 2024 at 11:26pm:
Disrespect for Costa!!! I will not forgive this. |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Aurora Complexus on Oct 22nd, 2024 at 11:55pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 22nd, 2024 at 7:44am:
It's quite obvious to me already (even as a newcomer) that you hate Aboriginal people. You hate them when they live on country, you hate them when they come to the city. You see no future for them besides EXILE from Australian society. Were you abused as a child, by an Aboriginal person? Or are you just a hateful person who picks on the most dis-empowered victim you can find? Hmm. You don't like immigrants much either, do you? I'm making a tentative diagnosis of "bully." |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Daves2017 on Oct 24th, 2024 at 1:06am Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 22nd, 2024 at 11:55pm:
I don’t believe his racist, he clearly hates everyone equally regardless race , status or colour! A lot of what he posts might go right pass the readers eyes and ears and brain and straight out the other side. But if you consider his posts openly, he has shared and express in this forum much value. I certainly don’t always agree with his opinions but I will argue his right to express them! His ok, just like we all are. |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 28th, 2024 at 10:53am Daves2017 wrote on Oct 24th, 2024 at 1:06am:
Yeah, he's ok, so long as you don't object to calls for genocide, segregation, imprisoning all Indigenous people into zoo like structures and selling tickets to people to go hunting and killing them, within bag limits of course, shooting Indigenous people on-site, zip-tying indigenous children around the neck to restrain them or expressing it would have been easier if the British finished them all off during colonisation, if you're all good with that, he's a top bloke that brings plenty of value to this place. |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 28th, 2024 at 11:40am
.... today on explosive news... rather than considering the real issues of what is inevitable higher rates of incarceration for NT Aborigines .... attention has been diverted to a single user ... sources close to the Great Man say that the generalisation and hyperbole stated about him are, as usual, totally wrong, and th at a far better use of time would be actually discussing the issues instead of The Man ..... see our full three hour interview with the Great Man from 8 pm tonight........... ain't he great - he'll set you straight ......
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 28th, 2024 at 11:54am
calls for genocide
Never called for genocide segregation Have opposed the Apartheid, which is greater than segregation since it creats Aboriginal supremacism, and have thus opposed segregation in all its forms - unlike those who promote the Division and Supremacism of one group while deluding themselves (bleach in eyes) that they are on the side of right.... imprisoning all Indigenous people into zoo like structures and selling tickets to people to go hunting and killing them, within bag limits of course Aborassic Park was a concession to the rat-bags who want to 'do things their way', 'have their own state free of Captain Cook' and 'live their idyllic way that they did pre-1788 civilisation'. It was to be organised for those who WANTED to move there, and for those who were in need of tribal correction treatment for being serial criminals. The hunting trips were of the Maverick kind, designed to produce a few dollars, and only traditional weapons were allowed - boomerang at 300 paces, spear at maybe 500... chances of being bagged were less than nil but the dollars would flow... all the badasses and troublemakers would be shipped there and society therefore made a much happier place while they went at one another in the traditional way. Win-Win!! shooting Indigenous people on-site That was in context of rioting crowds, who having been repeatedly ordered to disperse but continuing to riot, could be fired upon to break up the riot. And it's 'on sight' turkey. zip-tying indigenous children around the neck to restrain them Never said that - I mentioned that zip-tying around the neck produced a better result, as employed by the (British) SAS at times ... never once did I say that Aboriginal children should be zip-tied around the neck. Gotcha!! You give it to me - I give it to you!! Laying the bait with you is an art form and it works so well. expressing it would have been easier if the British finished them all off during colonisation Nah - I said that the British should have done a better job the first time around if that was their intent (it wasn't - 9% of the Aboriginal population of Australia live in Sydney from which they were genocided and driven, DUH) - but they'd do better in the next round - something that will never occur - so this is parody. Context, laddy, context... you're as weak as piss on context and reasoning... and way too big a man on growling and trying to shout others down ..... and in supporting the one-sidedthings you do without any thought at all, YOU are the racist and supremacism supporter here. I stand for a country UNITED - not united against itself in small packets which you are helping to create along race lines. Owzat, champ? |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 28th, 2024 at 1:02pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 28th, 2024 at 11:54am:
I forgot about the racial slurs...! Silly me. You will always try to twist and weasle out of accountability for what you say, but as context for anyone interested as it is important to know who you're talking with, especially since some may have already picked up on the racism, see below: Genocide: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 20th, 2023 at 12:28pm:
Segregation Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 1st, 2023 at 12:39am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 3:02pm:
Imprisoning all Indigenous people into zoo like structures and selling tickets to people to go hunting and killing them, within bag limits of course Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 11:05pm:
Expressing it would have been easier if the British finished them all off during colonisation (Bonus racial slur): Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 11:08pm:
Shooting Indigenous people on-site Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 26th, 2019 at 11:05am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 10th, 2022 at 4:21pm:
Zip-tying indigenous children around the neck to restrain them Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:06pm:
A few racial slurs for good measure: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 26th, 2019 at 4:43pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 6th, 2024 at 11:29pm:
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 28th, 2024 at 1:19pm
You have an objection to their living in their Former Glorious Splendour and simultaneously earning a few shekels out of gaping tourists?
What IS the matter with you? They'd be separate from all the evils of the White Man's Ways, wouldn't have to worry about prison for crimes, or deaths in custody, or gaps in longevity and child mortality.... they could just breathe the purest air of FREEEDOOOOOOOOM and live the high life they used to live pre-Civilisation ... hunt up a nutritious balanced traditional breakfast lunch and dinner and generally prosper as they did in their Golden Age... and all on their own private land!!! What's wrong with that? See the Last Remaining Stone Age Culture - come one, come all - see it before it vanishes from this Earth! Instantly go back 50,000 years or more to the ageless and timeless past (no clocks) - visit the splendours of uncluttered non-civilisation and total freedom from laws and constraints created by others!! Book NOW - tickets starting at $14,999 for the ten day tour, all meals included and modern air conditioned accommodation - although you may wish to mingle with the tribes and live their way first hand - what an experience!! Book NOW with Grappler Tours - we provide only the very best. All net profits after costs go to the Aboriginal Fund For Self-Improvement - providing scholarships for those who wish to become Mainstream and leave The Park. |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 28th, 2024 at 1:25pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 28th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
I'm not the problem here. If you don't like what you see in the mirror that I hold up to you, that's not my fault. How much longer will you keep pretending there's nothing to answer for, when your history is stained with a litany of racist remarks, crude slurs, and toxic views, paraded publicly until, when the light shines on you, you scurry off like vermin? All the while, you demand that others engage you in good faith, answer your questions, and respect your perspective. Yet you do nothing but spread bile and respond with contempt. Your time evading accountability is over. You are exactly who you appear to be, no facade will obscure it, not anymore. Anyone foolish enough to entertain you needs to be aware of the truth, "Mr. Truth Teller." And the quotes referenced here? They’re just tippy top of the iceberg of your legacy here. |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 28th, 2024 at 1:26pm
"I'm not the problem here." ... of course not, did-ums - you merely support and promote Apartheid, Supremacism, special rights, and other acts of Division.
I suppose you'd prefer them to continue in the pending Night and Fog into Incarceration (a small sub-state far north of Alice Springs) b eing created right now ... maybe on Nuovo Corregidor that island or peninsula off the coast somewhere........ (you didn't realise that Corregidor Peninsula of 1941-2 infamy was a 'chief magistrate' - meaning a kind of prison at one time, did you?). https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/nt-government-enacts-measures-to-cope-with-prison-overcrowding/vi-AA1t1Oz0?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=2e91bf7b54f24ecf8d8362e35d5b632e&ei=7#details Aborassic sounds a better deal... 8-) Now then - what about that Dingo Mountain....... the tale of those missing in the Outback - and it ain't Mick, either... there's a darkness on the land out there...... a dark mountain of evil too hard and too high to climb... for the ordinary person... it requires an extraordinary person..... Dingo_Mountain_Meme_2.jpg (140 KB | 13
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 28th, 2024 at 1:33pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 28th, 2024 at 1:26pm:
Keep running sweetheart, whether it's your mouth or from accountability. Sooner or later, it will catch up with you, and you're nowhere near clever enough to escape the consequences indefinitely. The shadow you’ve cast is too vast, too dark, and you’re bound to trip over it. |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 28th, 2024 at 6:31pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 28th, 2024 at 1:33pm:
Now that, Poppets, is what is called actually sticking to the issues .... or rather - playing the man. You really are a lost soul, aren't you? Every time I think there's a little hope for you in your benighted state over Apartheid etc, you piss all over the board and then throw a bucket of petrol on it and throw a match.... it's like playing chess with pyromaniacs.... Well - expect to keep getting the bait.... I love it when you try to play dirty... So you'd rather see all those Abo kid criminals on the Night and Fog Midnight Express way up north for 're-education' than see them in Aborassic Park under their Elders and sober parents (no Wharte Man's grog in Aborassic) without the opportunities to rob Whartey in their ongoing civil war? What a change in lifestyle The Park would be for all those afflicted ones..... all their problems would just ................. dry up ... no more Dingo Mountain disappearances either due to drug running... but those 200+ girls each year - where are they going? Into the Indonesian slave trade or something? Abducted and put into whorehouses over there? Lots of that in India The Great Social Success - mountain girls trapped into prostitution under violent men who control them until they are worn out, then they are thrown out with nothing. Your mobs think they've got it hard... and you slavishly agree with everything they moan about. |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 29th, 2024 at 10:13am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 28th, 2024 at 6:31pm:
You've been unmasked for exactly what you are: a disgraceful, unabashed racist. Twist and distort as you will; the evidence is irrefutable, set out clearly in your own words. The facade you parade, pretending to care about the well-being of the communities you shamelessly malign, is utterly unconvincing. No one buys it anymore. We see through you. Your intentions, your motivations, they’re all laid bare, explicitly documented, undeniable in full context. I regret to divert from the real issues at hand in these discussions, but it’s imperative that newcomers understand the kind of person they’re dealing with. If my words offend you to the point of you thinking them "playing dirty", like accurately pointing our how you are incapable of acting in a good faith discussion, perhaps you should attempt to retract the repugnant views you've expressed, and maybe even try to atone. Yet, astonishingly, you continue as though you're blameless, or worse, cast yourself as some unfortunate victim of others’ "playing dirty." Calling out your behaviour for what it is, a cold reflection of your own deeds, isn’t “playing dirty.” Or is it that exposing your disingenuous posturing is the abuse that so outrages you? Perhaps, amid your slurs or attempted slurs, among them "skanka" and whatever crude barbs you think amusing, you think being called "slick" is a grievous offence? Careful, though champ; if you clutch your pearls any tighter, they may well seep into your bloodstream, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZr0niFbbPk |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 29th, 2024 at 11:05am
You need to stay off that whatever it is. You're raving again while the cattle trucks are headed north from Alice... 8-) the outrageous and totally unwarranted Land claims are biting the dust .... your progressive hateful
Them dogs ain't gonna wash, Pilgrim.... you lost.... and you are growing more vicious, violent in your talk, and delusional as you watch your favourite walls between people collapse.... it's called a smokescreen, Poppets... while they run for the Fuhrerbunker under The Chancellory for their last stand. See the fear...... hear the desperation ....feel the despair... your cause is lost.... and your pets will not be taking a special place in Australia but will have to co-operate alongside all the others.. if these incoming 'right' governments run chicken about ensuring that All are Treated Equally - they will fall in turn and the people will take control. The People are sick of being lied to and betrayed and treated like serfs. Accept The Voice Of The People!! No Confiscation Without Consultation! Secede Now, avoid the rush! Form your own states that are more compatible with the wishes of your majority! 8-) |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 29th, 2024 at 12:13pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 29th, 2024 at 11:05am:
You cannot simply dismiss it and sweep it under the rug. Refusing to confront your past ensures it will continue to cast a shadow over you. Quote:
You spoke those words, and you advocated for those positions. No amount of evasion or misdirection will alter that reality. You are not a casualty of your own statements, no victim, nor is this an assault on you, it's simply called accountability. Quote:
My 'cause' isn't the issue here - yours is. You face serious questions, yet you continually dodge, deflect, and play the victim. Why do you promote and defend such racist rhetoric while feigning concern for the very communities you claim to support? |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 29th, 2024 at 5:40pm
... dismissed and swept under the rug..... now for some real discussion.....
touch the heartland feeling ... ...smell the fear.......... hear the despair ........ taste the desperation .... see the moral decay set in as the cookies crumble ....... the cause is lost.... a vilification... gone with the mind ..... Lesson #1:- We deal here not with principalities of men and of women - we deal exclusively with principalities of good and evil, right and wrong, and all in fair balance. Your way, put simply, grasshopper, is the wrong way and achieves nothing but division and strife. Lesson #2:- You, as do so many others, mistake the early brain-storming of such concepts as a Separate And Sovereign Aboriginal State to satisfy their demands partially and give them what they imagine they want and are entitled to - for the final solution of the Aboriginal problems.... the initial idea of acceding to their demand for Sovereignty AND for 'their own state' totally without the apparent evils of the Wharte Man's Way - via Aborassic Park - was not the final solution ... it was nothing more than the first set of potential guidelines for the Future Sovereign State Of Aboisolation.. named .. for short... Ablation ... As time has gone by,this initial vague concept has been refined until the first inductees into Aborassic Park (final name to be determined) will be on a purely voluntary basis - all those who demand separate sovereignty and their own ways in everything fit neatly there - and once established, "Aborassic Park" could become both a venue for Midnight Expressing Northern Territory style all those who are criminals and recalcitrants and a safe space for those Aborigines incapable of handling The Wharte Man's Way. In Aborassic Park they can be tutored by their Elders into the correct ways of behaving.. and once redeemed and deemed suitable for human company - could be released back into Australia on a provisional basis. The idea of organised and totally insulated from direct contact (so as not to spoil the ambience of Aborassic Park and potentially pollute its pristine pre-1788 environment with chocolate wrappers, 4wd tyre tracks, empty VB cans, etc) Tourism was raised as a money spinner for The Park and to offset its management costs..... and an added bonus was the suggestion that The Park include Gondwanamo Bay - where the REAL Recalcitrants and the Upheavalists of Australian Society are sent for THEIR 're-education' regardless of race, colour, religion or other affiliation... contracted out to the management of The Park, Gon'mo could provide guards and dog handlers and such for tracking down the very tiny number of escapees - before the crocs get them, it is hoped, but nobody will count.... The concept of organised Maverick style 'hunts' to bring in much needed revenue remains a suggestion.... can't see any of them tourists hitting anyone at 300 paces with a boomerang, eh? No need to get all oiled up over it.... $50,000 each!! All in all - The Park and attached Gon'Mo is a win-win for all Australians - and especially for the Aborigines who choose to live there or who are 're-settled' there to gain guidance from the Elders in the Correct Paths In Life, and learn to be True Men and Women, while giving the ravers their very own state and their very own way of doing things, all in one neat nutshell (scrotum)... Wassa Madda YOU? Is good deal! No like - no buy! |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 30th, 2024 at 6:18am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 29th, 2024 at 5:40pm:
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 30th, 2024 at 1:03pm
Still can't respond or engage respectfully, can you, kid? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 30th, 2024 at 1:03pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 29th, 2024 at 5:40pm:
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 30th, 2024 at 2:41pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 1:03pm:
Prove you can first. You've lost the good faith argument and until you can prove you're capable of engaging in such, you're on your own, champ. I'll simply respond to you as you do me. Don't like it, be better. |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 30th, 2024 at 4:18pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 2:41pm:
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 30th, 2024 at 4:22pm
...... feel the heartbeat of True Homeland Australia ........ smell the fear ...... hear the terror and wailing ..... see the collapse of any argument against truth....... breathe deeply of the smokescreen, Grasshoppers - it smells of burning tears.......... the voice is lost...... the voice by stealth was not lost on the people but is lost ......... truth and justice and equality in this man's democracy will prevail ...............
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by thegreatdivide on Oct 30th, 2024 at 4:35pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 22nd, 2024 at 7:44am:
And your solution is: lock'em up (oops - prisons are full, can't do that); or 'Apartheid' ("Aborissic Park") which neither Thorpe nor Price would countenance. It's a pity Conservatives don't do causes... |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 30th, 2024 at 4:57pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 4:18pm: |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 30th, 2024 at 7:39pm thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 4:35pm:
I have never once said that was the solution - I merely raised the issues for consideration..... your kind chose to interpet that as saying they should be locked up because your reasoning is faulty .... Aborassic Park is not Apartheid from this side of the fence - but from the other - it was the outcome of the demand for a separate state and their own sovereignty... I merely offered them an option for consideration.... the thing about a demand for 'sovereignty' outside the mainstream and for 'their own state' in which they can 'do things their ways' ................................... is that it is an all or nothing thing..... those demanding cannot continue to receive all the benefits of this nation while refusing the duties and responsibilities of citizens..... they have to make their own way.... all benefits and privileges cease at the gates... take it or leave it. Who are these 'Conservatives' you are talking about? Your kind are increasingly the Conservatives because you simply refuse to accept that things are changing every day, and that you have been on the wrong side of history and now the forces of people power are pushing in a different direction from your 'education' wasteland that has brought so much trouble to so many from so few.... never in the field of social conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few..... 8-) |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 31st, 2024 at 7:39am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
Oh, we know what your final solutions are for them... |
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Title: Re: NT prisoners on remand Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 31st, 2024 at 6:13pm
Petal!!
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