Anyone watch 4Corners last night?

The vertical integration take over of the Music industry by shareholder driven company LiveNation Entertainment. A US based company controlled by Liberty Media Corp.

In an industry without any real regulation these bastards are doing what no other companies are allowed to do because of regulations & regulatory bodies that oversee fair competition policy.

They are buying up the artists, music festivals & music venues, ticket sales & promotion companies. Thus becoming vertically integrated and charging whatever they like in the pursuit of profits for shareholders.

It was an interest expose on the control of the music industry and how it makes life much more difficult for the musicians & up coming talent.

It's having a devastating impact on artists and punters who are being ripped off by Dynamic Pricing - a fancy name for profiteering/price gouging in the guise of the old supply & demand mantra.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-14/music-for-sale/104471980

Of course LiveNation has come out blasting the 4Corners program ....

but when all the facts about what parts of the music industry they own and get fees on fees from then they don't have a truthful leg to stand on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IWpjiIcMb4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3If5AWP5eL4


Quote:

want your love and give me a thrill but your loveing don't pay my bills I want money what I want that's what I want that's what I want that's what I [Applause]

tallowood wrote on Oct 15^th, 2024 at 10:54am:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3If5AWP5eL4 Quote: want your love and give me a thrill but your loveing don't pay my bills I want money what I want that's what I want that's what I want that's what I [Applause]

And?

Just a coincidence.

tallowood wrote on Oct 15^th, 2024 at 7:36pm:

Just a coincidence.

Money just a coincidence?

I know it's all about money - but do you have an opinion on their operation and whether their vertically integrated model is contrary to competition policy & should it be allowed or should the industry be regulated?

Gnads wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 11:52am:

tallowood wrote on Oct 15th, 2024 at 7:36pm: Just a coincidence. Money just a coincidence? I know it's all about money - but do you have an opinion on their operation and whether their vertically integrated model is contrary to competition policy & should it be allowed or should the industry be regulated?

I think there should be more live performance then studio recording.

Best concert I ever went to was Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, in a basement with maybe 30 people watching. Nick dug his heart out and squeezed all the blood out. That's never going to happen in a corporate gig.

tallowood wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 11:57am:

Gnads wrote on Oct 16th, 2024 at 11:52am: tallowood wrote on Oct 15th, 2024 at 7:36pm: Just a coincidence. Money just a coincidence? I know it's all about money - but do you have an opinion on their operation and whether their vertically integrated model is contrary to competition policy & should it be allowed or should the industry be regulated? I think there should be more live performance then studio recording.

Well that's nice. Where's your money at though?

I've spent more on vinyl, CD's and online, than I ever spent on live performances. Probably five to one (considering the inflation factor on all that vinyl I bought as a young man.)

Touring is only worth the money, because audience buy more copy after attending a concert. There's plenty of potential for organizers to screw the acts, down to very little or nothing for performing. Hell even negative return: you'll only know when they stop touring at all.

Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 7:20pm:

tallowood wrote on Oct 16th, 2024 at 11:57am: Gnads wrote on Oct 16th, 2024 at 11:52am: tallowood wrote on Oct 15th, 2024 at 7:36pm: Just a coincidence. Money just a coincidence? I know it's all about money - but do you have an opinion on their operation and whether their vertically integrated model is contrary to competition policy & should it be allowed or should the industry be regulated? I think there should be more live performance then studio recording. Well that's nice. Where's your money at though? I've spent more on vinyl, CD's and online, than I ever spent on live performances. Probably five to one (considering the inflation factor on all that vinyl I bought as a young man.) Touring is only worth the money, because audience buy more copy after attending a concert. There's plenty of potential for organizers to screw the acts, down to very little or nothing for performing. Hell even negative return: you'll only know when they stop touring at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swhuh2K4Oas

more
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=busking

tallowood wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 7:46pm:

Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 16th, 2024 at 7:20pm: tallowood wrote on Oct 16th, 2024 at 11:57am: Gnads wrote on Oct 16th, 2024 at 11:52am: tallowood wrote on Oct 15th, 2024 at 7:36pm: Just a coincidence. Money just a coincidence? I know it's all about money - but do you have an opinion on their operation and whether their vertically integrated model is contrary to competition policy & should it be allowed or should the industry be regulated? I think there should be more live performance then studio recording. Well that's nice. Where's your money at though? I've spent more on vinyl, CD's and online, than I ever spent on live performances. Probably five to one (considering the inflation factor on all that vinyl I bought as a young man.) Touring is only worth the money, because audience buy more copy after attending a concert. There's plenty of potential for organizers to screw the acts, down to very little or nothing for performing. Hell even negative return: you'll only know when they stop touring at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swhuh2K4Oas more https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=busking

Are you complaining that LiveNation is buying up busking spots? Or just trying for a cheap shot about live music?

Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 7:53pm:

tallowood wrote on Oct 16th, 2024 at 7:46pm: Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 16th, 2024 at 7:20pm: tallowood wrote on Oct 16th, 2024 at 11:57am: Gnads wrote on Oct 16th, 2024 at 11:52am: tallowood wrote on Oct 15th, 2024 at 7:36pm: Just a coincidence. Money just a coincidence? I know it's all about money - but do you have an opinion on their operation and whether their vertically integrated model is contrary to competition policy & should it be allowed or should the industry be regulated? I think there should be more live performance then studio recording. Well that's nice. Where's your money at though? I've spent more on vinyl, CD's and online, than I ever spent on live performances. Probably five to one (considering the inflation factor on all that vinyl I bought as a young man.) Touring is only worth the money, because audience buy more copy after attending a concert. There's plenty of potential for organizers to screw the acts, down to very little or nothing for performing. Hell even negative return: you'll only know when they stop touring at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swhuh2K4Oas more https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=busking Are you complaining that LiveNation is buying up busking spots? Or just trying for a cheap shot about live music?

Try to listen music instead of asking silly questions  ::)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7DEl4QgWT4

Try answering a few questions before deflecting with tripe.