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Message started by Laugh till you cry on Oct 14th, 2024 at 1:36pm

Title: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by Laugh till you cry on Oct 14th, 2024 at 1:36pm
Caribbean nations are calling for the UK to pay $240 billion and much more in slavery reparations.

"Estimates for the likely reparations bill for British involvement in slavery in 14 countries range from £ 206 billion to £ 19 trillion."

Is this just the start of lawfare against past colonial empires?

India has already lodged claims against the UK for reparations for its crimes in India.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13955637/Barbados-UK-billions-slave-trade-reparations-ironic-China.html


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Calls from Barbados for the UK to pay billions in slave trade reparations branded 'utterly ironic' given Caribbean country's links to China
By Harriet Line

Published: 22:47 BST, 13 October 2024 | Updated: 22:55 BST, 13 October 2024

Calls from Barbados for the UK to pay billions in compensation for its role in the slave trade were branded 'utterly ironic' last night over the country's links to China.

A group of Caribbean governments has agreed to put slavery reparations on the table at the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Samoa next week.

The prime minister of Barbados, Mia Mottley, is leading demands from West Indies nations and she met King Charles earlier this month ahead of the 56-nation gathering.

She has said reparations for slavery and colonialism should be part of a new 'global reset'.

Estimates for the likely reparations bill for British involvement in slavery in 14 countries range from £ 206 billion to £ 19 trillion.

Barbados' Prime Minister Mia Amor Mottley addresses the 79th United Nations General Assembly last month. She is leading demands from West Indies nations for the UK to pay billions in compensation for its role in the slave trade

But last night Ms Mottley was criticised over her country's links to China where the UN has reported the forced labour of members of minority groups.

Church of England planning to set up £1bn fund to deal with 'the scale of the moral sin' of slavery
article image

Tory grandee and China hawk Sir Iain Duncan Smith told the Mail: 'It is utterly ironic that countries that bend the knee to China and take the "belt and road" money turn a blind eye to the fact that China is now probably the biggest user of slavery in its production lines and its products.

'It is a country that is committing genocide in Xinjiang amongst the Uyghurs, and persecutes Christians and practises forced organ harvesting on organisations like Falun Gong and Christians.

'So how ironic that people should call on us to pay them, when they are busy cosying up on their knees to China in the hope of more money from an appalling, abusive nation that has one of the worst records in history in abuse and political execution.'

Barbados and China have close trading links and the island is part of Beijing's 'belt and road initiative', a global infrastructure programme.

The Mail on Sunday, which first reported that slavery reparations would be on the table at the Commonwealth meeting, also said Ms Mottley has described her country as 'the home of modern racism' thanks to British rule from 1625.

Tory grandee and China hawk Sir Iain Duncan Smith said the calls from Barbados for the UK to pay billions in compensation for its role in the slave trade were 'utterly ironic'

She has said Barbados is owed $4.9trillion (£3.9trillion) by former slave-owning nations.

Sir Iain dismissed calls for reparations, saying the UK 'spent billions in ending the slave trade'.

He added: 'We have paid well over the asking price for anything to do with what happened because we were the ones who paid through the nose to stop it.'

Ms Mottley has praised previous comments by King Charles, who said acknowledging the wrongs of the past was a 'conversation whose time has come'.

A spokesman for the Commonwealth Secretariat told The Mail on Sunday: 'Commonwealth heads have always discussed challenges and aspirations constructively.'

Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by MeisterEckhart on Oct 14th, 2024 at 1:41pm
The usual drivel from locals with bugs up their arse at the thought of free money.

Who would be made whole by reparations?

So many Jamaicans have built massively successful lives through their abilities and hard work... Should the Marley family be entitled to compensation?


Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by tallowood on Oct 14th, 2024 at 1:58pm
Kamala Harris has Jamaican slavery connection, isn't she?

Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 14th, 2024 at 5:54pm
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Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by lee on Oct 14th, 2024 at 6:42pm
So how about those Portuguese and Spanish; or are they too poor? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by Bobby. on Oct 14th, 2024 at 7:30pm
Same as here:


https://www.bitchute.com/video/ChuDnICOdgI9


Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 14th, 2024 at 7:33pm
They should be paying royalties on the rum that Dark Pete showed them how to distill.

Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by Setanta on Oct 14th, 2024 at 8:08pm
If the Brits didn't stop the slave trade, the Caribbean nations would probably be in no position to demand reparations. They'd be too busy cutting cane.
Biting the hands that freed you?

Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by Daves2017 on Oct 14th, 2024 at 10:50pm
A quick look around the world and I strongly suggest we as the human race has more than enough to deal with TODAY rather than worry about what happening in the past!


Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by Laugh till you cry on Oct 14th, 2024 at 11:28pm
The international lawyers are going to be tied up for a while litigating against Jewish Israelis after the IJC ruled that the occupation was illegal, the wall was illegal, settlements were illegal, and the Palestinians deserve compensation.

There will also be countless Israelis prosecuted for war crimes they recorded and posted on social media.

The the big one. Israeli Jews sued for genocide.

Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by Frank on Oct 15th, 2024 at 12:50am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 14th, 2024 at 1:36pm:
Caribbean nations are calling for the UK to pay $240 billion and much more in slavery reparations.

"Estimates for the likely reparations bill for British involvement in slavery in 14 countries range from £ 206 billion to £ 19 trillion."

Is this just the start of lawfare against past colonial empires?

India has already lodged claims against the UK for reparations for its crimes in India.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13955637/Barbados-UK-billions-slave-trade-reparations-ironic-China.html


Quote:
Calls from Barbados for the UK to pay billions in slave trade reparations branded 'utterly ironic' given Caribbean country's links to China
By Harriet Line

Published: 22:47 BST, 13 October 2024 | Updated: 22:55 BST, 13 October 2024

Calls from Barbados for the UK to pay billions in compensation for its role in the slave trade were branded 'utterly ironic' last night over the country's links to China.

A group of Caribbean governments has agreed to put slavery reparations on the table at the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Samoa next week.

The prime minister of Barbados, Mia Mottley, is leading demands from West Indies nations and she met King Charles earlier this month ahead of the 56-nation gathering.

She has said reparations for slavery and colonialism should be part of a new 'global reset'.

Estimates for the likely reparations bill for British involvement in slavery in 14 countries range from £ 206 billion to £ 19 trillion.

Barbados' Prime Minister Mia Amor Mottley addresses the 79th United Nations General Assembly last month. She is leading demands from West Indies nations for the UK to pay billions in compensation for its role in the slave trade

But last night Ms Mottley was criticised over her country's links to China where the UN has reported the forced labour of members of minority groups.

Church of England planning to set up £1bn fund to deal with 'the scale of the moral sin' of slavery
article image

Tory grandee and China hawk Sir Iain Duncan Smith told the Mail: 'It is utterly ironic that countries that bend the knee to China and take the "belt and road" money turn a blind eye to the fact that China is now probably the biggest user of slavery in its production lines and its products.

'It is a country that is committing genocide in Xinjiang amongst the Uyghurs, and persecutes Christians and practises forced organ harvesting on organisations like Falun Gong and Christians.

'So how ironic that people should call on us to pay them, when they are busy cosying up on their knees to China in the hope of more money from an appalling, abusive nation that has one of the worst records in history in abuse and political execution.'

Barbados and China have close trading links and the island is part of Beijing's 'belt and road initiative', a global infrastructure programme.

The Mail on Sunday, which first reported that slavery reparations would be on the table at the Commonwealth meeting, also said Ms Mottley has described her country as 'the home of modern racism' thanks to British rule from 1625.

Tory grandee and China hawk Sir Iain Duncan Smith said the calls from Barbados for the UK to pay billions in compensation for its role in the slave trade were 'utterly ironic'

She has said Barbados is owed $4.9trillion (£3.9trillion) by former slave-owning nations.

Sir Iain dismissed calls for reparations, saying the UK 'spent billions in ending the slave trade'.

He added: 'We have paid well over the asking price for anything to do with what happened because we were the ones who paid through the nose to stop it.'

Ms Mottley has praised previous comments by King Charles, who said acknowledging the wrongs of the past was a 'conversation whose time has come'.

A spokesman for the Commonwealth Secretariat told The Mail on Sunday: 'Commonwealth heads have always discussed challenges and aspirations constructively.'



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Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by Frank on Oct 15th, 2024 at 12:53am

Setanta wrote on Oct 14th, 2024 at 8:08pm:
If the Brits didn't stop the slave trade, the Caribbean nations would probably be in no position to demand reparations. They'd be too busy cutting cane.
Biting the hands that freed you?

Always.


Take up the White Man's burden—
    Send forth the best ye breed—
Go bind your sons to exile
    To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness
    On fluttered folk and wild—
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
    Half devil and half child.

Take up the White Man's burden—
    In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
    And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
    An hundred times made plain.
To seek another's profit,
    And work another's gain.

Take up the White Man's burden—
    The savage wars of peace—
Fill full the mouth of Famine
    And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
    The end for others sought,
Watch Sloth and heathen Folly
    Bring all your hopes to nought.


Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by aquascoot on Oct 15th, 2024 at 5:10am
go back and look at the ottomans ,

their whole method of paying their soldiers was to allow them to take slaves after a campaign or seige and then sell them on

this is still part of their culture.

calls for the british to be singled out?

only if they are being singled out for being the only ones to stop the practice  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by Frank on Oct 16th, 2024 at 5:23am
In 1808, a fleet called the West Africa Squadron was formed to patrol the African coast and catch slave ships. In the following decades they seized an estimated 1,600 slave ships and freed a whopping 150,000 Africans slaves.


African kingdoms were also encouraged to sign anti-slavery treaties. Over 50 African rulers signed them, and for ones that didn't, “corrective action” was taken—sometimes fighting slavery meant using the full force of the British Navy.


One example was the deposition of Oba Kosoko of Lagos in 1851.

After refusing to sign an anti-slavery treaty, the HMS Bloodhound and HMS Tartar besieged Lagos and deposed Kosoko. He was quickly replaced with an anti-slavery rival named Akitoye.

While some illegal trade continued in far-off regions, by the middle of the 19th-century the Atlantic slave trade was almost completely eradicated.

Slavery outside the empire’s jurisdiction, however, would continue for hundreds of years in some places.

No nation on earth did more to eliminate slavery than Britain.

Though empires are often viewed as inherently tyrannical, Britain’s war on slavery shows that immense power can, in some cases, be channeled for good.

https://x.com/thinkingwest/status/1846162874680373359


Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by Bobby. on Oct 16th, 2024 at 6:08am

What would Blair Cottrell say?


https://www.bitchute.com/video/ChuDnICOdgI9

Such as when is it gunna be enough?
how much money do these people need?
how much blood do these people need?
how much sacrifice on our behalf is gunna be enough for them
for them to finally feel like they're satisfied? -
and the answer is it will never be enough
it's never gunna be enough -
if you support this Voice referendum thing -
that's not gunna be enough -
there's gunna be something after that
and then there's gunna be something after that -
as Joel explained they're gunna be pushing
and pushing and pushing as much as possible
so you have to say no from the beginning - yeah -
you have to say no to everything these people ask for
and everything they demand -
they have no right to demand anything.

Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by Frank on Feb 17th, 2026 at 11:38am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 14th, 2024 at 1:36pm:
Caribbean nations are calling for the UK to pay $240 billion and much more in slavery reparations.

"Estimates for the likely reparations bill for British involvement in slavery in 14 countries range from £ 206 billion to £ 19 trillion."

Is this just the start of lawfare against past colonial empires?

India has already lodged claims against the UK for reparations for its crimes in India.




Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by freediver on Feb 17th, 2026 at 12:11pm
Shouldn't it be Africa suing the Caribbean nations? Seeing as they were the nations largely built on African slavery?

Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by thegreatdivide on Feb 17th, 2026 at 12:30pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 14th, 2024 at 1:36pm:
Caribbean nations are calling for the UK to pay $240 billion and much more in slavery reparations.

"Estimates for the likely reparations bill for British involvement in slavery in 14 countries range from £ 206 billion to £ 19 trillion."

Is this just the start of lawfare against past colonial empires?


No, it's a claim for financial support from rich nations,  in a dysfunctional IMF-led  system.

We need to fix that dysfunctional system.

[message to FD: please stop asking questions based on your delusional "freedom" ideology. Try suggesting solutions instead of continually asking silly questions...)


Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by freediver on Feb 17th, 2026 at 12:35pm
Cuba is poor because it is communist. The best thing we can do for them is get rid of communism, rather than trying to prop it up. Like the CCP embracing capitalism. They could even call it "communism with cuban characteristics" or some similar gobbledegook.

Probably better if they don't follow the CCP's lead of supressing wages to keep the peasants hungry.

Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by thegreatdivide on Feb 17th, 2026 at 1:01pm

freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2026 at 12:35pm:
Cuba is poor because it is communist.


Excellent so far: a statement, not a question.

But "communist" in your vocabulary apparently means Stalinism or Maoism  - which informed Cuba's  Castro revolution; whereas in my vocabulary it CAN mean "common prosperity"....   


Quote:
The best thing we can do for them is get rid of communism, rather than trying to prop it up.


....provided the replacement is a governement which can implement the general welfare...but even Trump can't achieve this in the US. 



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Like the CCP embracing capitalism. They could even call it "communism with cuban characteristics" or some similar gobbledegook.


Well - provided the CCP achieves common prosperity under "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics", lately reaffirmed by Xi as achieving a "rejuvinated, beautiful, green and prosperous  China" by 2049, the centenary of the "Marxist" revolution  - all is well.

In contrast, Trump is abandoning Green in favour of filthy fossils. in the land of the "brave and the free"....

Congrats for not asking a silly question, but ....as you can see... you will have to think for yourself to reply to my various assertions, without relying on blind ideology and reverting to asking silly questions....      

Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by Frank on Feb 17th, 2026 at 1:22pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 17th, 2026 at 1:01pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2026 at 12:35pm:
Cuba is poor because it is communist.


Excellent so far: a statement, not a question.

But "communist" in your vocabulary apparently means Stalinism or Maoism  - which informed Cuba's  Castro revolution; whereas in my vocabulary it CAN mean "common prosperity"....   


Quote:
The best thing we can do for them is get rid of communism, rather than trying to prop it up.


....provided the replacement is a governement which can implement the general welfare...but even Trump can't achieve this in the US. 


[quote] Like the CCP embracing capitalism. They could even call it "communism with cuban characteristics" or some similar gobbledegook.


Well - provided the CCP achieves common prosperity under "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics", lately reaffirmed by Xi as achieving a "rejuvinated, beautiful, green and prosperous  China" by 2049, the centenary of the "Marxist" revolution  - all is well.

In contrast, Trump is abandoning Green in favour of filthy fossils. in the land of the "brave and the free"....

Congrats for not asking a silly question, but ....as you can see... you will have to think for yourself to reply to my various assertions, without relying on blind ideology and reverting to asking silly questions....      
[/quote]


If not freely then how would Australians choose a government to deliver common prosperity?


Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by lee on Feb 17th, 2026 at 1:31pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 17th, 2026 at 1:01pm:
Well - provided the CCP achieves common prosperity under "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics", lately reaffirmed by Xi as achieving a "rejuvinated, beautiful, green and prosperous  China" by 2049, the centenary of the "Marxist" revolution  - all is well.



The qualifiers begin.  ;)

And still more coal plants greening China.

Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by freediver on Feb 17th, 2026 at 1:56pm

Quote:
But "communist" in your vocabulary apparently means Stalinism or Maoism  - which informed Cuba's  Castro revolution; whereas in my vocabulary it CAN mean "common prosperity".... 


Which in turn can mean anything at all - whatever the current whim of the CCP is. Even if it means deliberately supressing wages to keep the peasants hungry.

Title: Re: Calls for UK to pay billions slavery reparations
Post by Jasin on Feb 17th, 2026 at 4:51pm

freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2026 at 12:11pm:
Shouldn't it be Africa suing the Caribbean nations? Seeing as they were the nations largely built on African slavery?

And shouldn't black Americans condemn West Africans for selling them off in the first place?
Seems the Media narrative is very Anti American.

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