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Message started by Laugh till you cry on Oct 6th, 2024 at 10:02am

Title: France urges halt to arms deliveries to Israel
Post by Laugh till you cry on Oct 6th, 2024 at 10:02am
The global isolation of Israel is starting.

France attempted to prevent Israeli presence at a Euro arms exhibition early in the year.

France finally speaks with its own voice instead of following the commands of Israel and the US.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/10/05/macron-urges-halt-to-arms-deliveries-to-israel-for-use-in-gaza_6728282_4.html


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Macron urges halt to arms deliveries to Israel for use in Gaza

French President Emmanuel Macron told French radio that his priority was to 'return to a political solution,' before adding France was not sending arms to Israel.

Le Monde with AFP

Published yesterday at 3:18 pm (Paris), updated yesterday at 4:38 pm

French President Emmanuel Macron on Saturday, October 5, urged a halt to arms deliveries to Israel, which has been criticized over the conduct of its retaliatory operation in Gaza.

"I think that today, the priority is that we return to a political solution, that we stop delivering weapons to fight in Gaza," Macron told broadcaster France Inter. "France is not delivering any," he added during the interview recorded early this week.

The United States provides about $3 billion in weapons to Israel each year. In May, the State Department said it did not have enough evidence to block shipments of weapons but that it was "reasonable to assess" that Israel has used arms in ways inconsistent with standards of humanitarian law.


In September, Britain said it was suspending some arms exports to Israel, citing a "clear risk" that they could be used in a serious breach of international humanitarian law.

Editorial War in the Middle East: Beyond the clash of arms
Macron reiterated his concern over the conflict in Gaza that is continuing despite repeated calls for a ceasefire. "I think we are not being heard," he said. "I think it is a mistake, including for the security of Israel," he said, adding that the conflict was leading to "hatred." Macron also said avoiding an escalation in Lebanon was a "priority." "Lebanon cannot become a new Gaza," he added.

Title: Re: France urges halt to arms deliveries to Israel
Post by MattE on Oct 6th, 2024 at 10:05am
Israel has its own arms manufacturing as well as the United States.

What is there to negotiate? Free the hostages and it ends.

Title: Re: France urges halt to arms deliveries to Israel
Post by Laugh till you cry on Oct 6th, 2024 at 11:22am

MattE wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 10:05am:
Israel has its own arms manufacturing as well as the United States.

What is there to negotiate? Free the hostages and it ends.


That is not what Israel is offering.

Israeli Jews have not promised to stop the mass murder and genocide but only to pause it during the hostage release period.

Title: Re: France urges halt to arms deliveries to Israel
Post by thegreatdivide on Oct 6th, 2024 at 11:32am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 11:22am:

MattE wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 10:05am:
Israel has its own arms manufacturing as well as the United States.

What is there to negotiate? Free the hostages and it ends.


That is not what Israel is offering.

Israeli Jews have not promised to stop the mass murder and genocide but only to pause it during the hostage release period.


Exactly.

And the extreme RW Israeli government has expressly ruled out a Palestinian State - a stance which itself is a rejection of international law, and the cause of the conflict.

Title: Re: France urges halt to arms deliveries to Israel
Post by Yadda on Oct 6th, 2024 at 12:10pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 11:22am:

Israeli Jews have not promised to stop the mass murder and genocide
but only to pause it during the hostage release period.



LTYC,

What is it,     ....that Hamas militants in Gaza, are terrified of ???

Are Hamas afraid that a Jewish person has no honour ?

And that a Jewish person would be unable to show mercy, to an enemy ?

And that a Jewish person would not know the difference between.....RIGHT and WRONG ?

[watch the two videos below]


"Glory follows virtue as if it were its shadow."
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman Statesman



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Video #01

@ 10.35      [in order to end the present conflict in Gaza....] ".....you could surrender."

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BBC's Jeremy Bowen presses Hamas deputy leader on 7 October attacks

13 min                  Q's Khalil Al Hayya, begin 06.45

Oct 4, 2024                @ 02.30.....Jeremy Bowen states that THIS INTERVIEW, concluded,
only about 1 hour before the '180' Iranian ballistic missile attack was launched.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvwuccdAYNs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvwuccdAYNs



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BBC International Editor Jeremy Bowen speaks to Newscast about his interview with senior Hamas official, Khalil Al Hayya




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Video #02

Moment Hamas spokesperson ends BBC interview abruptly after being challenged

42 seconds

Oct 27, 2023


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAva9VM38uA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAva9VM38uA



Quote:

Ghazi Hamad, the deputy foreign minister for Hamas, was being questioned by the BBC’s Middle East reporter Hugo Bachega.......
Hamad had been asked how he could justify the murder of Israelis as they lay unaware in their beds, stating “I want to stop this interview” before walking out of the room.






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re OP            'France urges halt to arms deliveries to Israel'

French President Emmanuel Macron is in love......with himself.

He is a beautiful Frenchman.......Emmanuel Macron is emotionally compelled to kiss every mirror he comes upon.
/sarc off


Emmanuel Macron is always right [and others are always mistaken].

And if there is a cost [to be paid], Emmanuel Macron insists that the other party must pay the bill.



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Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- Benjamin Franklin


FRENCH POST WWII SURPLUS;
French small arms for sale, never fired in combat and only dropped once.



Matthew 16:26
For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?


John 18:37
....Jesus answered, ....To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.


Proverbs 12:17
He that speaketh truth sheweth forth righteousness...



Title: Re: France urges halt to arms deliveries to Israel
Post by Laugh till you cry on Oct 6th, 2024 at 12:29pm
Israeli Jews are on the cusp of a global isolation of Israel.

The Israeli Jewish murder spree of 76+ years against Palestinians will be stopped by global condemnation and Isolation of Israeli Jews from global society.

The recent conduct of Netanyahu in the UN was uncivilized and representative of the hate infestation in Israeli Jewish society.

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Title: Re: France urges halt to arms deliveries to Israel
Post by MattE on Oct 6th, 2024 at 1:46pm
France doesn't export that many weapons to Israel anyway so it actually doesn't matter that much.

The biggest arms exporter to Israel in Europe is Germany.

Title: Re: France urges halt to arms deliveries to Israel
Post by Laugh till you cry on Oct 6th, 2024 at 2:34pm

MattE wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 1:46pm:
France doesn't export that many weapons to Israel anyway so it actually doesn't matter that much.

The biggest arms exporter to Israel in Europe is Germany.


The longest journey starts with a single step.


Quote:
The Chinese philosopher Lao Tzu once said, "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." This means that no matter how big your goal is, you can achieve it if you just take the first step. So what is the first step to achieving your goal? It could be anything.

Title: Re: France urges halt to arms deliveries to Israel
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 6th, 2024 at 3:41pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 11:22am:

MattE wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 10:05am:
Israel has its own arms manufacturing as well as the United States.

What is there to negotiate? Free the hostages and it ends.


That is not what Israel is offering.

Israeli Jews have not promised to stop the mass murder and genocide but only to pause it during the hostage release period.


You’re an idiot. Israel is the victim here. They don’t murder and kidnap civilians. Hamas does. Hezbollah does. Iran does. There’s a reason they’re labeled terrorists, not Israel. They just want to be left to live in peace. Palestine could’ve been a recognised free state many years ago when Israel (I think under Rabin) basically gave Arafat (head of the PLO at the time) pretty much everything they asked for. The offer included many concessions by Israel, such as giving up land occupied by Israelis. The hardliners in the PLO blocked Arafat from accepting. There could’ve been peace 15-20 years ago, but it’s clear the hardliner Palestinians in the old PLO and now Hamas want only one thing - destruction of Israel - and they’re willing to use their own citizens as human shields, as we’ve seen. Israel only strikes after it has first been struck. It’s rare for them to strike first and is usually done only when an attack on Israel is imminent. Strikes to kill Hamas leaders are fair game and no different from the US going after Taliban leaders. As we’ve seen repeatedly, when Israel does strike, they usually give ample warning for civilians to leave because they know Hamas and Hezbollah use civilians as human shields. Your argument fails on every single level and ignores cold, hard facts.

Title: Re: France urges halt to arms deliveries to Israel
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 6th, 2024 at 5:04pm
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