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Message started by Daves2017 on Sep 19th, 2024 at 9:33pm

Title: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Daves2017 on Sep 19th, 2024 at 9:33pm
With record breaking immigration under the Albo labor party the primary reason for the growth.

Goodbye Albo, goodbye Wong

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 19th, 2024 at 9:47pm


Too many people - the land of confusion:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGMTGkhWrLM

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Aurora Complexus on Sep 19th, 2024 at 10:00pm
So you're for Small Australia. Fewer people, but richer, and defending all that land with US weapons bought off the shelf.

No. Geography is destiny. Australia is part of Asia, and if we can't breed up then we need immigrants.

And it seems we can't breed up. Bruce doesn't like Shiela "that way." Bruce wants to spend all his time on his import business, and Shiela has her nail salon.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 19th, 2024 at 10:08pm

Aurora Complexus wrote on Sep 19th, 2024 at 10:00pm:
So you're for Small Australia. Fewer people, but richer, and defending all that land with US weapons bought off the shelf.

No. Geography is destiny. Australia is part of Asia, and if we can't breed up then we need immigrants.

And it seems we can't breed up. Bruce doesn't like Shiela "that way." Bruce wants to spend all his time on his import business, and Shiela has her nail salon.




I must have dreamed a thousand dreams
Been haunted by a million screams
But I can hear the marching feet
They're moving into the street

Now, did you read the news today?
They say the danger has gone away
But I can see the fire's still alight
They're burning into the night

There's too many men, too many people
Making too many problems
And there's not much love to go around

Can't you see this is the land of confusion?

This is the world we live in
And these are the hands we're given
Use them and let's start trying
To make it a place worth living in

Oh, Superman, where are you now?
When every thing's gone wrong somehow?
Men of steel, these men of power
I'm losing control by the hour

This is the time, this is the place
So we look for the future
But there's not much love to go around
Tell me why this is the land of confusion

This is the world we live in
And these are the hands we're given
Use them and let's start trying
To make it a place worth living in

I remember long ago
When the sun was shining
And all the stars were bright all through the night
In the wake up this madness, as I held you tight
So long ago

I won't be coming home tonight
My generation will put it right
We're not just making promises
That we know we'll never keep

There's too many men, too many people
Making too many problems
And there's not much love to go around
Can't you see this is the land of confusion?

Now, this is the world we live in
And these are the hands we're given
Use them and let's start trying
To make it a place worth fighting for

This is the world we live in
And these are the names we're given
Stand up and let's start showing
Just where our lives are going to

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by UnSubRocky on Sep 20th, 2024 at 8:09am

Aurora Complexus wrote on Sep 19th, 2024 at 10:00pm:
So you're for Small Australia. Fewer people, but richer, and defending all that land with US weapons bought off the shelf.

No. Geography is destiny. Australia is part of Asia, and if we can't breed up then we need immigrants.

And it seems we can't breed up. Bruce doesn't like Shiela "that way." Bruce wants to spend all his time on his import business, and Shiela has her nail salon.


Australia could have 100 million people living on the mainland alone. However, if it was not for the fact that Prime Minister Albanese wants to constrict the funding to regional and rural Australia in favour of his latte sipping mugs in Shidney. Lah-Dee-Dah.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by UnSubRocky on Sep 20th, 2024 at 8:10am
Bobby, tell us what you really think...

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Laugh till you cry on Sep 20th, 2024 at 9:52am
... and rising relentlessly while the Australian birth rate declines.

Population growth without services and infrastructure growth makes all Australians poorer.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by tickleandrose on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:03am
Immigration will be more important as time goes on.   Australia is a service related economy, and we are heading into an ageing crisis.   Studies have showed that by 2050, the proportion of those aged over 65 will be 25% (we are currently pushing 22%).   And the proportion of younger and tax producing population is decreasing.    Already nursing homes, and aged care support services are under funded and under staffed.   Without immigration of younger population, we simply cannot sustain. 

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Daves2017 on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:06am
So it’s Rudds /Labor big Australia  idea or die choice?

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by MeisterEckhart on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:14am

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:03am:
Immigration will be more important as time goes on.   Australia is a service related economy, and we are heading into an ageing crisis.   Studies have showed that by 2050, the proportion of those aged over 65 will be 25% (we are currently pushing 22%).   And the proportion of younger and tax producing population is decreasing.    Already nursing homes, and aged care support services are under funded and under staffed.   Without immigration of younger population, we simply cannot sustain. 

Exactly.

Without immigration, Australia's infrastructure, its health system and its economy would be in terminal decline.

Sir Niall Ferguson has run counter-factual models of British society if Britain had had low immigration since the 90s... The outcomes? If anyone thinks they are bad now, it would have been exponentially worse without immigration.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by tickleandrose on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:18am
I think at the end of the day, it is really the structure of our government.    If, today, Australia is a manufacturing powerhouse, and we innovate into automation.  With our vast resources, then yes, we can definitively sustain with a lower population and an ageing population. 

However, we are free market capitalist economy.   So companies are always looking for more profits.  And this means, lower input cost, or higher price.   And with our major competitors in Europe and Asia advancing at break neck speed, we have long gave up our manufacturing base.  We also stopped funding research and innovation during Howard, and Lib Abbott Turnbull and Morrison government.  So now, we cant compete.  The only thing we have is the service sector and mining export. 

Mining boom is peaking out, and we did not want the mining tax. 

Service sectors requires... well... people to service them.  And so... if we have an ageing population, we wont be able to sustain these service sectors without immigration.   For example. sure, you can replace a taxi driver with an automated car.  But you cant replace a professor with a computer.    And you cant replace doctors, and nurses with robots. 

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by MeisterEckhart on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:41am

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:18am:
you cant replace doctors, and nurses with robots. 

Not yet, at least...

Although remote, online medical examinations are already a thing.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Dnarever on Sep 20th, 2024 at 11:56am

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:18am:
you cant replace doctors, and nurses with robots. 


Through my life I have seen all sorts of statements like this made and they all happened.

People historically said you can't and they did.

I worked in a company that was interested in developing AI - they said you couldn't just 5 or 6 years ago.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by tickleandrose on Sep 20th, 2024 at 1:51pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 11:56am:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:18am:
you cant replace doctors, and nurses with robots. 


Through my life I have seen all sorts of statements like this made and they all happened.

People historically said you can't and they did.

I worked in a company that was interested in developing AI - they said you couldn't just 5 or 6 years ago.


And Also Mister

I am not sure if technology has advanced to this level yet, for a complete take over.  Perhaps for day to day, black and white issues, then yes.   But what if something is a bit more grey.    For example, if an elderly patient come in with fractured hip.  Then, instinctively, its preparing for surgery for hip replacement.   But, what if the patient already have a terminal illness, and only has days to live any way.   And there are thousands of different senarios , each with different human factors, I just dont think robots would be able to replace this. 

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Sep 20th, 2024 at 1:52pm
You can't replace valid living space with suckyscrapers ... you can't take any more farming land for suckyscrapers or housing either.... building more 'feeder' 'satellite' 'dormitory' townships such as they tried around Campbelltown leading to drug suburbs and outlawry, will founder on lack of jobs, lack of infrastructure, and sheer inability to get to work on over-priced 'private' trains and roads....

People can only afford to pay for travel daily from Goulburn to the city to work before the cost reduces them to near poverty.  I've known people who tried to commute Newcastle to Sydney... Newcastle always was a dead hole anyway, even with the industries lording it over the clean air...

All the insanities are coming home to roost.... and I'm still here to say - I TOLD YOU SO!!

We don't need more people who don't even begin to fit in... we need a pause and a full re-structure before we take one more step down that road.  Start by voting out your PC political types... get real ones in...

Hang on - secede from the large states NOW - newer and smaller states more in line with their people....
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Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by UnSubRocky on Sep 20th, 2024 at 7:07pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:03am:
Immigration will be more important as time goes on.   Australia is a service related economy, and we are heading into an ageing crisis.   Studies have showed that by 2050, the proportion of those aged over 65 will be 25% (we are currently pushing 22%).   And the proportion of younger and tax producing population is decreasing.    Already nursing homes, and aged care support services are under funded and under staffed.   Without immigration of younger population, we simply cannot sustain. 


You will just have to learn how to retire at 80. 45 for me is the new 25.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 20th, 2024 at 7:16pm

Labor's Immigration Crisis: Is High Migration Driving Australians into Homelessness?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yG_n8MHqaU

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Daves2017 on Sep 20th, 2024 at 8:41pm
It’s the Howard/ Rudd big Australian plan.

Rest the develop world has cornered our leaders to accept their non desirable and as a petty country on    the world stage to save face they have agreed.

It’s simple as .

How else can I prime minister explain away being paid more than the American president?

Do as we told, rich get richer , poor poorer, Australia so far this millennium.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:25pm

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 8:41pm:
It’s the Howard/ Rudd big Australian plan.

Rest the develop world has cornered our leaders to accept their non desirable and as a petty country on    the world stage to save face they have agreed.

It’s simple as .

How else can I prime minister explain away being paid more than the American president?

Do as we told, rich get richer , poor poorer, Australia so far this millennium.



This is London now - it's what the Labor party wants here:

Video  50 seconds.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/166/408/322/playable/ff88a2c9143692d4.mp4

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by MeisterEckhart on Sep 21st, 2024 at 8:38am

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 8:41pm:
It’s the Howard/ Rudd big Australian plan.

Rest the develop world has cornered our leaders to accept their non desirable and as a petty country on    the world stage to save face they have agreed.

It’s simple as .

How else can I prime minister explain away being paid more than the American president?

Do as we told, rich get richer , poor poorer, Australia so far this millennium.

Across the West and in East Asia. the population is in serious decline, and in some cases, in terminal decline.

Yet we all still want our standard of living to remain high and our 'stuff' readily available and cheap.

We want our infrastructure to continue to improve, our health system to remain 'the envy of the world', and our income to jest get better and better.

What we're not prepared to do, is have kids at a rate commensurate with all of the above being locally sustainable.

If not immigration to manage the problem... Then what?

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by aquascoot on Sep 21st, 2024 at 9:55am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 21st, 2024 at 8:38am:

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 8:41pm:
It’s the Howard/ Rudd big Australian plan.

Rest the develop world has cornered our leaders to accept their non desirable and as a petty country on    the world stage to save face they have agreed.

It’s simple as .

How else can I prime minister explain away being paid more than the American president?

Do as we told, rich get richer , poor poorer, Australia so far this millennium.

Across the West and in East Asia. the population is in serious decline, and in some cases, in terminal decline.

Yet we all still want our standard of living to remain high and our 'stuff' readily available and cheap.

We want our infrastructure to continue to improve, our health system to remain 'the envy of the world', and our income to jest get better and better.

What we're not prepared to do, is have kids at a rate commensurate with all of the above being locally sustainable.

If not immigration to manage the problem... Then what?



bit of a ponzi scheme there meister

if you visit the outer suburbs, there are no hospitals, no new public transport,
just endless rows of dog box housing and people doing service jobs to service all the social problems that come from this barren existence

and our standard of living was so high because of cheap fossil fuels

period

20 litres of deisel enable me to do the work of 100 men doing manual labour for a week

take away cheap energy and standards of living will plummett.

victorians may die of the cold next winter
mains gas will not be available
and you just try and make bricks,concrete, timber, tiles, stainless steel without cheap fossil fuel power.

the costs have doubled in the last 5 years and so will the cost of new housing


its a simple choice

burn coal like china and india (our coal by the way)

or accept a lower standard of living

pretty simple choice for me

i love the stoic life

but for a fat sloppy entitled fecker in the burbs..he wants his air con, his netflix, his home deliveries, his cheap sugary foods , his bulk billing, his free public hospital, his free nursing home


tough titties..he aint gunna get it  :D :D

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Gnads on Sep 21st, 2024 at 10:25am

Aurora Complexus wrote on Sep 19th, 2024 at 10:00pm:
So you're for Small Australia. Fewer people, but richer, and defending all that land with US weapons bought off the shelf.

No. Geography is destiny. Australia is part of Asia, and if we can't breed up then we need immigrants.

And it seems we can't breed up. Bruce doesn't like Shiela "that way." Bruce wants to spend all his time on his import business, and Shiela has her nail salon.


27 million people on the 2nd driest continent in the world is more than enough. So that's not "small Australia" ... Big Australia like the 2030 renewables & zero emissions targets is not practical or attainable.

In case you haven't noticed we are in a cost of living & housing crisis. As well as increased homelessness as a result.

We can't house anymore migrants ... especially since Albanese has bought in nearly a million in his term of office with that forecast to have increased to 1.6 million by the end of 2025 into 2026.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Gnads on Sep 21st, 2024 at 10:27am

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:03am:
Immigration will be more important as time goes on.   Australia is a service related economy, and we are heading into an ageing crisis.   Studies have showed that by 2050, the proportion of those aged over 65 will be 25% (we are currently pushing 22%).   And the proportion of younger and tax producing population is decreasing.    Already nursing homes, and aged care support services are under funded and under staffed.   Without immigration of younger population, we simply cannot sustain. 



You'd be another all for a Soylent Green solution to our aging population?

Don't forget your turn is coming.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Gnads on Sep 21st, 2024 at 10:30am

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 7:07pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:03am:
Immigration will be more important as time goes on.   Australia is a service related economy, and we are heading into an ageing crisis.   Studies have showed that by 2050, the proportion of those aged over 65 will be 25% (we are currently pushing 22%).   And the proportion of younger and tax producing population is decreasing.    Already nursing homes, and aged care support services are under funded and under staffed.   Without immigration of younger population, we simply cannot sustain. 


You will just have to learn how to retire at 80. 45 for me is the new 25.


What to support bludging mugs like you?

You've already retired ... never held a steady job, have dependency & mental health issues.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by MeisterEckhart on Sep 21st, 2024 at 10:33am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 21st, 2024 at 9:55am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 21st, 2024 at 8:38am:

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 8:41pm:
It’s the Howard/ Rudd big Australian plan.

Rest the develop world has cornered our leaders to accept their non desirable and as a petty country on    the world stage to save face they have agreed.

It’s simple as .

How else can I prime minister explain away being paid more than the American president?

Do as we told, rich get richer , poor poorer, Australia so far this millennium.

Across the West and in East Asia. the population is in serious decline, and in some cases, in terminal decline.

Yet we all still want our standard of living to remain high and our 'stuff' readily available and cheap.

We want our infrastructure to continue to improve, our health system to remain 'the envy of the world', and our income to jest get better and better.

What we're not prepared to do, is have kids at a rate commensurate with all of the above being locally sustainable.

If not immigration to manage the problem... Then what?



bit of a ponzi scheme there meister

if you visit the outer suburbs, there are no hospitals, no new public transport,
just endless rows of dog box housing and people doing service jobs to service all the social problems that come from this barren existence

and our standard of living was so high because of cheap fossil fuels

period

20 litres of deisel enable me to do the work of 100 men doing manual labour for a week

take away cheap energy and standards of living will plummett.

victorians may die of the cold next winter
mains gas will not be available
and you just try and make bricks,concrete, timber, tiles, stainless steel without cheap fossil fuel power.

the costs have doubled in the last 5 years and so will the cost of new housing


its a simple choice

burn coal like china and india (our coal by the way)

or accept a lower standard of living

pretty simple choice for me

i love the stoic life

but for a fat sloppy entitled fecker in the burbs..he wants his air con, his netflix, his home deliveries, his cheap sugary foods , his bulk billing, his free public hospital, his free nursing home


tough titties..he aint gunna get it  :D :D

Politics is primarily local and contemporary.

Nobody is interested in economic salvation prophesied to be delivered in 50 years...

All want to be assured that sustained prosperity is at hand!

Remember 'Populate or Perish'? Australia has been populating by adoption since 1788.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Sep 21st, 2024 at 6:15pm
Replacement of mass immigration with a more sensible policy... starting with a halt until such time as the nation stabilises.... and the people get their say.

Our feudal overlords in politics are way out of control... time to rein them in.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by UnSubRocky on Sep 24th, 2024 at 6:08am

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 8:41pm:
It’s the Howard/ Rudd big Australian plan.

Rest the develop world has cornered our leaders to accept their non desirable and as a petty country on    the world stage to save face they have agreed.

It’s simple as .

How else can I prime minister explain away being paid more than the American president?

Do as we told, rich get richer , poor poorer, Australia so far this millennium.


New migrants just moved up here. They saw how Caucasian the region was at the time. Then they moved back south. Perhaps we should start lowering the migration rates to pre-Labor levels, so that us Aussies can have a chance to breed.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by UnSubRocky on Sep 24th, 2024 at 6:46am

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 21st, 2024 at 6:15pm:
Replacement of mass immigration with a more sensible policy... starting with a halt until such time as the nation stabilises.... and the people get their say.

Our feudal overlords in politics are way out of control... time to rein them in.


As the covid isolation policies have shown us, if we cut migration down to a bare minimum, we lose Australian productivity. If we increase emigration, we maintain Australian productivity.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by MeisterEckhart on Sep 24th, 2024 at 8:11am

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 6:08am:
Perhaps we should start lowering the migration rates to pre-Labor levels, so that us Aussies can have a chance to breed.

What? They've driven you out of your native mating dongas?

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by UnSubRocky on Sep 24th, 2024 at 11:24am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 8:11am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 6:08am:
Perhaps we should start lowering the migration rates to pre-Labor levels, so that us Aussies can have a chance to breed.

What? They've driven you out of your native mating dongas?


No. The Asians usually stick to themselves. We have seen an uptick in rural and regional Aussies having babies. There might be a bit of a population collapse in Brisbane by 2032.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by UnSubRocky on Sep 24th, 2024 at 11:39am

Gnads wrote on Sep 21st, 2024 at 10:30am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 7:07pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:03am:
Immigration will be more important as time goes on.   Australia is a service related economy, and we are heading into an ageing crisis.   Studies have showed that by 2050, the proportion of those aged over 65 will be 25% (we are currently pushing 22%).   And the proportion of younger and tax producing population is decreasing.    Already nursing homes, and aged care support services are under funded and under staffed.   Without immigration of younger population, we simply cannot sustain. 


You will just have to learn how to retire at 80. 45 for me is the new 25.


What to support bludging mugs like you?

You've already retired ... never held a steady job, have dependency & mental health issues.


Work commitments are about 30 hours a week. That is 2 hours prior to work for preparation. One hour after work to wind down. Then it is my usual work hours of 3 to 5 hours a day anywhere from 3 to 6 days a week. So, I could be working 10 hours a week. Or I could be working up to 30 hours a week.

The most work I have done in a 24 hour period is about 15 hours. So, that is 15 + 2 hours preparation + 1.5 hours for lunch and a break + 1 hour wind down before I went to bed. That was a 19 hour day. I got paid the 15 hours. I slept the 6 hours and then did a 4 hour shift the next day. Best pay I have ever gotten since the year 2010.

However, because of my health concerns (which have only abated in the last month or so), I had to wind back my hours until I snapped out of my "self-medication" issues. By the time I finish my leave, I should have lost the remainder of my obesity.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by tickleandrose on Sep 24th, 2024 at 12:20pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 7:07pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:03am:
Immigration will be more important as time goes on.   Australia is a service related economy, and we are heading into an ageing crisis.   Studies have showed that by 2050, the proportion of those aged over 65 will be 25% (we are currently pushing 22%).   And the proportion of younger and tax producing population is decreasing.    Already nursing homes, and aged care support services are under funded and under staffed.   Without immigration of younger population, we simply cannot sustain. 


You will just have to learn how to retire at 80. 45 for me is the new 25.


Yes, we are doing that by increasing the retirement age.  However, this is not always possible with every profession, esp those with higher physical demand. 

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by tickleandrose on Sep 24th, 2024 at 12:26pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 21st, 2024 at 10:27am:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:03am:
Immigration will be more important as time goes on.   Australia is a service related economy, and we are heading into an ageing crisis.   Studies have showed that by 2050, the proportion of those aged over 65 will be 25% (we are currently pushing 22%).   And the proportion of younger and tax producing population is decreasing.    Already nursing homes, and aged care support services are under funded and under staffed.   Without immigration of younger population, we simply cannot sustain. 



You'd be another all for a Soylent Green solution to our aging population?

Don't forget your turn is coming.


But Gnads, this is how it works.   Even with the liberals, they would not stop immigration all together.  They merely put a hypothetical ceiling number with no real policy to ensure how that number is going to be enforced.   That is the reality.   We are a service based economy with an Ageing population.   Service economy need people to service and to supply those services.    There is no green, blue, or red ways to get around it. 

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 24th, 2024 at 1:49pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 12:26pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 21st, 2024 at 10:27am:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:03am:
Immigration will be more important as time goes on.   Australia is a service related economy, and we are heading into an ageing crisis.   Studies have showed that by 2050, the proportion of those aged over 65 will be 25% (we are currently pushing 22%).   And the proportion of younger and tax producing population is decreasing.    Already nursing homes, and aged care support services are under funded and under staffed.   Without immigration of younger population, we simply cannot sustain. 



You'd be another all for a Soylent Green solution to our aging population?

Don't forget your turn is coming.


But Gnads, this is how it works.   Even with the liberals, they would not stop immigration all together.  They merely put a hypothetical ceiling number with no real policy to ensure how that number is going to be enforced.   That is the reality.   We are a service based economy with an Ageing population.   Service economy need people to service and to supply those services.    There is no green, blue, or red ways to get around it. 



We definitely need immigration but it has to be controlled
in the numbers and types of people we let in.




Immigration

Labor's Housing Crisis: Stripping Australians of Homeownership – One Nation Fights Back

Jump to 1:18 -

out of all the people they imported only 1,800 were qualified tradies
from 737,000 people  2022/ 2023


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07A88HUY-oQ

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by tickleandrose on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 1:49pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 12:26pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 21st, 2024 at 10:27am:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:03am:
Immigration will be more important as time goes on.   Australia is a service related economy, and we are heading into an ageing crisis.   Studies have showed that by 2050, the proportion of those aged over 65 will be 25% (we are currently pushing 22%).   And the proportion of younger and tax producing population is decreasing.    Already nursing homes, and aged care support services are under funded and under staffed.   Without immigration of younger population, we simply cannot sustain. 



You'd be another all for a Soylent Green solution to our aging population?

Don't forget your turn is coming.


But Gnads, this is how it works.   Even with the liberals, they would not stop immigration all together.  They merely put a hypothetical ceiling number with no real policy to ensure how that number is going to be enforced.   That is the reality.   We are a service based economy with an Ageing population.   Service economy need people to service and to supply those services.    There is no green, blue, or red ways to get around it. 



We definitely need immigration but it has to be controlled
in the numbers and types of people we let in.




Immigration

Labor's Housing Crisis: Stripping Australians of Homeownership – One Nation Fights Back

Jump to 1:18 -

out of all the people they imported only 1,800 were qualified tradies
from 737,000 people  2022/ 2023


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07A88HUY-oQ

It is easy for the minor parties to try to isolate all the issues impacting Australia on immigration, and this time housing crisis. 

The housing crisis that is facing Australia today is multifactorial, it stems from decades of economic policies of successive labor and liberal government across Federal, state and local council levels. 

I can guarantee you can stop immigration tomorrow, and  or import 1 million tradies, you would still have a housing crisis on hand. 

Don’t listen to One Nation.   Their policy won’t fix Australia.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Laugh till you cry on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:24pm
Australia is being over-populated.

There will be moaning and whining when droughts hit and water becomes scarce.

Coming to a suburb near you:


Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:33pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:20pm:
It is easy for the minor parties to try to isolate all the issues impacting Australia on immigration, and this time housing crisis. 

The housing crisis that is facing Australia today is multifactorial, it stems from decades of economic policies of successive labor and liberal government across Federal, state and local council levels. 

I can guarantee you can stop immigration tomorrow, and  or import 1 million tradies, you would still have a housing crisis on hand. 

Don’t listen to One Nation.   Their policy won’t fix Australia.



Bullshit - only Pauline can fix the problem.
It will only get a lot worse under nutcase Albo.
Dutton would only be a little better.


Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by John Smith on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:56pm
The irony is that all the bigots crying about immigration are the ones who most need the immigrants to wipe their arses for them because they are unable to do it for themsleves :D :D :D

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:58pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:56pm:
The irony is that all the bigots crying about immigration are the ones who most need the immigrants to wipe their arses for them because they are unable to do it for themsleves :D :D :D



If you wanted to build houses why -

out of all the people they imported only 1,800 were qualified tradies
from 737,000 people  2022/ 2023.

Albo is a halfwit -  he is unfit to be the PM.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by John Smith on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:01pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:58pm:
out of all the people they imported only 1,800 were qualified tradies



how many should they import goober?

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:03pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:58pm:
out of all the people they imported only 1,800 were qualified tradies



how many should they import goober?



Address me by my proper name -  sir brave Bobby.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by tickleandrose on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:33pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:20pm:
It is easy for the minor parties to try to isolate all the issues impacting Australia on immigration, and this time housing crisis. 

The housing crisis that is facing Australia today is multifactorial, it stems from decades of economic policies of successive labor and liberal government across Federal, state and local council levels. 

I can guarantee you can stop immigration tomorrow, and  or import 1 million tradies, you would still have a housing crisis on hand. 

Don’t listen to One Nation.   Their policy won’t fix Australia.



Bullshit - only Pauline can fix the problem.
It will only get a lot worse under nutcase Albo.
Dutton would only be a little better.

If you look at One Nation’s major donors, they are from Property Real estate and construction.  Right wing businessmen.  Hotels, and retail service sectors.  Those sectors all require a larger Australia to function.    Money talks. 

In 2022, One nation directed preference to labour in five seats in QLD and Tasmania, because of liberal preference for Jackie Lambie in Tasmania.   Self interest more than what their voters would have preferred.

At least with the other parties, like Katter, Nationals, and even Clive Palmer, their position is consistent.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:22pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:33pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:20pm:
It is easy for the minor parties to try to isolate all the issues impacting Australia on immigration, and this time housing crisis. 

The housing crisis that is facing Australia today is multifactorial, it stems from decades of economic policies of successive labor and liberal government across Federal, state and local council levels. 

I can guarantee you can stop immigration tomorrow, and  or import 1 million tradies, you would still have a housing crisis on hand. 

Don’t listen to One Nation.   Their policy won’t fix Australia.



Bullshit - only Pauline can fix the problem.
It will only get a lot worse under nutcase Albo.
Dutton would only be a little better.

If you look at One Nation’s major donors, they are from Property Real estate and construction.  Right wing businessmen.  Hotels, and retail service sectors.  Those sectors all require a larger Australia to function.    Money talks. 

In 2022, One nation directed preference to labour in five seats in QLD and Tasmania, because of liberal preference for Jackie Lambie in Tasmania.   Self interest more than what their voters would have preferred.

At least with the other parties, like Katter, Nationals, and even Clive Palmer, their position is consistent.



Whatever -

isn't it obvious that Albo couldn't organise a chook raffle in a pub?

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:22pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:33pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:20pm:
It is easy for the minor parties to try to isolate all the issues impacting Australia on immigration, and this time housing crisis. 

The housing crisis that is facing Australia today is multifactorial, it stems from decades of economic policies of successive labor and liberal government across Federal, state and local council levels. 

I can guarantee you can stop immigration tomorrow, and  or import 1 million tradies, you would still have a housing crisis on hand. 

Don’t listen to One Nation.   Their policy won’t fix Australia.



Bullshit - only Pauline can fix the problem.
It will only get a lot worse under nutcase Albo.
Dutton would only be a little better.

If you look at One Nation’s major donors, they are from Property Real estate and construction.  Right wing businessmen.  Hotels, and retail service sectors.  Those sectors all require a larger Australia to function.    Money talks. 

In 2022, One nation directed preference to labour in five seats in QLD and Tasmania, because of liberal preference for Jackie Lambie in Tasmania.   Self interest more than what their voters would have preferred.

At least with the other parties, like Katter, Nationals, and even Clive Palmer, their position is consistent.



Whatever -

isn't it obvious that Albo couldn't organise a chook raffle in a pub?


Dunno.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:31pm
Greggy,
if Albo wanted to build houses he wouldn't have imported only 1,800 tradies
out of over 737,000 people  2022/ 2023.

He is stuffing everything up - he can't do his job properly and we are all suffering from it.
He's hopeless and if he was honest he would apologise and resign.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by tickleandrose on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:35pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:31pm:
Greggy,
if Albo wanted to build houses he wouldn't have imported only 1,800 tradies
out of over 737,000 people  2022/ 2023.

He is stuffing everything up - he can't do his job properly and we are all suffering from it.
He's hopeless and if he was honest he would apologise and resign.


But Bobby, the immigration visas for 2022 and possibly 2023 would probably had being already granted by start of 2022, which at the time, we were still under the Morrison government.   Labor's housing policy is still at the senate stage.... 

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:37pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:31pm:
Greggy,
if Albo wanted to build houses he wouldn't have imported only 1,800 tradies
out of over 737,000 people  2022/ 2023.

He is stuffing everything up - he can't do his job properly and we are all suffering from it.
He's hopeless and if he was honest he would apologise and resign.


But Bobby, the immigration visas for 2022 and possibly 2023 would probably had being already granted by start of 2022, which at the time, we were still under the Morrison government.   Labor's housing policy is still at the senate stage.... 



Yeah right - blame ScoMo.   ::)


Albo is in charge - he can't blame ScoMo forever.    ::)

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by John Smith on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:52pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:58pm:
out of all the people they imported only 1,800 were qualified tradies



how many should they import goober?



Address me by my proper name -  sir brave Bobby.




afraid your stupidity will shine through again? If so I should tell you that it's to late.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 24th, 2024 at 4:00pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:58pm:
out of all the people they imported only 1,800 were qualified tradies



how many should they import goober?



Address me by my proper name -  sir brave Bobby.




afraid your stupidity will shine through again? If so I should tell you that it's to late.




John,
you're barely literate and you're trying to mix it with academics.    ::)



https://www.grammarly.com/blog/to-too/

To vs. too: What’s the difference?

The difference between to and too is how they’re used. While both are homonyms (they are pronounced the same), their usage and meanings are very different.

    to is a preposition, as in “Let’s go to the mall.”
    too is an adverb that means “also,” as in “I’ll go to the mall too!”



Examples of to vs. too

    I plan to explore the Bermuda Triangle.
    This song is dedicated to Mika, with love.
    Shana would like to play one more round of poker.
    The Frisbee didn’t go far—maybe one to three yards.
    Jamie didn’t want any more tea; it was too sweet for them.
    I want to see the mountains and the ocean too.
    We wanted to go by ourselves, but our parents came too.
    Even though she’d made a final push to win the marathon, it was too little too late.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by John Smith on Sep 24th, 2024 at 5:58pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 4:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:58pm:
out of all the people they imported only 1,800 were qualified tradies



how many should they import goober?



Address me by my proper name -  sir brave Bobby.




afraid your stupidity will shine through again? If so I should tell you that it's to late.




John,
you're barely literate and you're trying to mix it with academics.    ::)



https://www.grammarly.com/blog/to-too/

To vs. too: What’s the difference?

The difference between to and too is how they’re used. While both are homonyms (they are pronounced the same), their usage and meanings are very different.

    to is a preposition, as in “Let’s go to the mall.”
    too is an adverb that means “also,” as in “I’ll go to the mall too!”



Examples of to vs. too

    I plan to explore the Bermuda Triangle.
    This song is dedicated to Mika, with love.
    Shana would like to play one more round of poker.
    The Frisbee didn’t go far—maybe one to three yards.
    Jamie didn’t want any more tea; it was too sweet for them.
    I want to see the mountains and the ocean too.
    We wanted to go by ourselves, but our parents came too.
    Even though she’d made a final push to win the marathon, it was too little too late.


you're so predictable, I knew that would be your response. ;D ;D

Anything to avoid answering the question ehh goober

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 24th, 2024 at 6:16pm


Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Sep 24th, 2024 at 6:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:31pm:
Greggy,
if Albo wanted to build houses he wouldn't have imported only 1,800 tradies
out of over 737,000 people  2022/ 2023.

He is stuffing everything up - he can't do his job properly and we are all suffering from it.
He's hopeless and if he was honest he would apologise and resign.


The aim is to stuff everything up - it's the old colonialist way of reducing a culture down to the basics of survival in order to dominate it and then re-create it in your own image.

In this case/his case, Albo is attached by a mental lesion to the internationalism of man - all are equal etc... all cultures, individuals, and so forth ... and Australia - being of the First World though rather low in ranking - MUST be brought down to ruin and then re-built in the image the internationalists wish it to be.... equal to the lower forms of culture and civilisation, some of which are based on insanity.

It is, in effect a form of Fascism/Stalinism, wherein those in 'power' totally feel entitled, like some Feudal king/lord etc, to rule over all as they wish using Divine Right.

To attain this end anything will do - and that is why you see this clinging to the vastly outworn victimhood of 'feminism' and similar and this never-ending 'voice' nonsense already voted out but having become The Living Dead Voice, and why you have the likes of Wong praising terrorists while booting fellow democracies in the arse, as that cartoon posted by Nemo so aptly showed.

As a nation/country/culture/civilisation .... we desperately need to get rid of this style of government of an elite dictating to all others, especially when it is clear that this self-appointed elite is both stupid and insane.

Power To The People!  Right On!

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 24th, 2024 at 6:31pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:31pm:
Greggy,
if Albo wanted to build houses he wouldn't have imported only 1,800 tradies
out of over 737,000 people  2022/ 2023.

He is stuffing everything up - he can't do his job properly and we are all suffering from it.
He's hopeless and if he was honest he would apologise and resign.


The aim is to stuff everything up - it's the old colonialist way of reducing a culture down to the basics of survival in order to dominate it and then re-create it in your own image.

In this case/his case, Albo is attached by a mental lesion to the internationalism of man - all are equal etc... all cultures, individuals, and so forth ... and Australia - being of the First World though rather low in ranking - MUST be brought down to ruin and then re-built in the image the internationalists wish it to be.... equal to the lower forms of culture and civilisation, some of which are based on insanity.

It is, in effect a form of Fascism/Stalinism, wherein those in 'power' totally feel entitled, like some Feudal king/lord etc, to rule over all as they wish using Divine Right.

To attain this end anything will do - and that is why you see this clinging to the vastly outworn victimhood of 'feminism' and similar and this never-ending 'voice' nonsense already voted out but having become The Living Dead Voice, and why you have the likes of Wong praising terrorists while booting fellow democracies in the arse, as that cartoon posted by Nemo so aptly showed.

As a nation/country/culture/civilisation .... we desperately need to get rid of this style of government of an elite dictating to all others, especially when it is clear that this self-appointed elite is both stupid and insane.

Power To The People!  Right On!



Hi Grappler,
Albo is just incompetent - it's that simple.
I wouldn't trust him to run a Milk Bar.


Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Sep 24th, 2024 at 7:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 6:31pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:31pm:
Greggy,
if Albo wanted to build houses he wouldn't have imported only 1,800 tradies
out of over 737,000 people  2022/ 2023.

He is stuffing everything up - he can't do his job properly and we are all suffering from it.
He's hopeless and if he was honest he would apologise and resign.


The aim is to stuff everything up - it's the old colonialist way of reducing a culture down to the basics of survival in order to dominate it and then re-create it in your own image.

In this case/his case, Albo is attached by a mental lesion to the internationalism of man - all are equal etc... all cultures, individuals, and so forth ... and Australia - being of the First World though rather low in ranking - MUST be brought down to ruin and then re-built in the image the internationalists wish it to be.... equal to the lower forms of culture and civilisation, some of which are based on insanity.

It is, in effect a form of Fascism/Stalinism, wherein those in 'power' totally feel entitled, like some Feudal king/lord etc, to rule over all as they wish using Divine Right.

To attain this end anything will do - and that is why you see this clinging to the vastly outworn victimhood of 'feminism' and similar and this never-ending 'voice' nonsense already voted out but having become The Living Dead Voice, and why you have the likes of Wong praising terrorists while booting fellow democracies in the arse, as that cartoon posted by Nemo so aptly showed.

As a nation/country/culture/civilisation .... we desperately need to get rid of this style of government of an elite dictating to all others, especially when it is clear that this self-appointed elite is both stupid and insane.

Power To The People!  Right On!



Hi Grappler,
Albo is just incompetent - it's that simple.
I wouldn't trust him to run a Milk Bar.


Yes - but he's an excellent ventriloquist's dummy for his ultra-socialist handlers.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 24th, 2024 at 7:46pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 7:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 6:31pm:
Hi Grappler,
Albo is just incompetent - it's that simple.
I wouldn't trust him to run a Milk Bar.


Yes - but he's an excellent ventriloquist's dummy for his ultra-socialist handlers.



He's like a travel agent who books 100 families into only 75 hotel rooms.

I'll tell you what -
many people on this forum will still vote for him - go figure?    :o

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 24th, 2024 at 8:54pm
Did AnAl say he would reduce numbers of immigrants?


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Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 24th, 2024 at 8:57pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 8:54pm:
Did AnAl say he would reduce numbers of immigrants?



The rumors are that we have up to 12 people living in a one bedroom flat -
all around Australia but mainly in the big cities.

Rents have skyrocketed and so have property prices.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Sep 24th, 2024 at 9:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 7:46pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 7:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 6:31pm:
Hi Grappler,
Albo is just incompetent - it's that simple.
I wouldn't trust him to run a Milk Bar.


Yes - but he's an excellent ventriloquist's dummy for his ultra-socialist handlers.



He's like a travel agent who books 100 families into only 75 hotel rooms.

I'll tell you what -
many people on this forum will still vote for him - go figure?    :o


Lemmings.  There's nobody to vote for on the mainland.  I converse with Lambie on things and try to keep her nose straight.

Albo is the most blind dunderhead 'leader' we've had for a long time - and that's saying something.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 24th, 2024 at 9:32pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 9:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 7:46pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 7:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 6:31pm:
Hi Grappler,
Albo is just incompetent - it's that simple.
I wouldn't trust him to run a Milk Bar.


Yes - but he's an excellent ventriloquist's dummy for his ultra-socialist handlers.



He's like a travel agent who books 100 families into only 75 hotel rooms.

I'll tell you what -
many people on this forum will still vote for him - go figure?    :o


Lemmings.  There's nobody to vote for on the mainland.  I converse with Lambie on things and try to keep her nose straight.

Albo is the most blind dunderhead 'leader' we've had for a long time - and that's saying something.



We need a section 25 like the USA where the leader can be removed
on the grounds of mental incompetence.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Aurora Complexus on Sep 24th, 2024 at 10:06pm

No we really don't.

The PM can be removed by A MAJORITY OF HIS/HER PARTY CAUCUS.

There is no advantage to allowing the Cabinet to remove the PM.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Aurora Complexus on Sep 24th, 2024 at 10:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 7:46pm:
many people on this forum will still vote for him - go figure?    :o


It's not that hard to figure. Immigration is not the most important issue.

It may suit you to blame housing prices, rent, and grocery prices on "too many people" but frankly the failure in the private sector. Capitalists are fleecing you (and immigrants) and they're afraid of what happens if Albo gets angry.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Sep 25th, 2024 at 4:09pm
Anyway - Albo is a very dangerous man after the mold of Himmler - superficially a weakling etc .. no 'chin' - but with the wave of a silk hankie he can destroy the lives of millions.  Adhering to Apartheid and politics of division and exclusion are guaranteed ways to savagely disadvantage any social group targeted, just like the Gypsies, Jews etc under the Nazi regime.

When you chop a specified group out of professions etc...... what is the difference?

When they came for the men in the offices - you said nothing....
When they came for the men in teaching - you said nothing ....
When they came for the men in all workplaces - you said nothing ...
When they came for the men in educational institutions and courses - you said nothing ...
When they came for the men in their own homes - you said nothing ...
When they came for those not ethnic - you said nothing ..
When they came for the non-Blacks - you said nothing ....
When they came for the straight people - you said nothing....

Now they've come for you all - there's nobody but me to say anything ..... and like frogs boiled - you haven't even noticed it.... go lodge a complaint with some 'Human Rights Commission' the next time you are racially vilified or discriminated against... watch them look at you in amazement, and laugh after you've left.  Go claim some land your ancestors once walked over..... you'll be thrown on the street or put in an asylum.  If you are less fortunate - and it may well come to this - you may go on a list of malcontents, same as occurred with the NSW Police for those who came forward with complaints at the Royal Commission..... and will be dealt with at leisure  later....

These social science maniacs, lead off by the feminists, are the most dangerous people on earth - and they are fattening off the best paddocks, abusing our allies and responsibilities in the Middle East, while destroying lives here by the thousand.

The future of children raised in Tent City should be interesting to view.  Worse than houso upbringing.... thrown in with all kinds, ten square feet per person, flimsy security of property and such ... it won't be just one big outback barbecue (where have we heard that before) in that particular Mau Mau country.

Bet most of them turn out anti-social and petty criminals for life.

Justice is coming.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by John Smith on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:39pm
time for your meds again old man ::)

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:43pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:39pm:
time for your meds again old man ::)


Just grab yourself a glass of wine and keep treading water mentally - you'll be fine...

They're eating the dogs
They're eating the cats
They're eating the pets
Of the people
Of Strathfield....


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Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by John Smith on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:45pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:43pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:39pm:
time for your meds again old man ::)


Just grab yourself a glass of wine and keep treading water mentally - you'll be fine...


ohh i know i'll be fine. Geriatric old fools like you are dying out. I'll be here long after you're all gone ;D

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Gnads on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:39am

John Smith wrote on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:45pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:43pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:39pm:
time for your meds again old man ::)


Just grab yourself a glass of wine and keep treading water mentally - you'll be fine...


ohh i know i'll be fine. Geriatric old fools like you are dying out. I'll be here long after you're all gone ;D


;D Who says? Been looking into your crystal ball or star gazing? More like navel gazing.

It's a relatively short journey & you're well on your way to being a geriatric old fool, you're already the fool part.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by mothra on Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:00am

Gnads wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:39am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:45pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:43pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:39pm:
time for your meds again old man ::)


Just grab yourself a glass of wine and keep treading water mentally - you'll be fine...


ohh i know i'll be fine. Geriatric old fools like you are dying out. I'll be here long after you're all gone ;D


;D Who says? Been looking into your crystal ball or star gazing? More like navel gazing.

It's a relatively short journey & you're well on your way to being a geriatric old fool, you're already the fool part.


Get your hand off it, Gonads. he may often be on your side but even you have to admit, surely, that Crappler is wandering aimlessly in yonder paddock.

Seriously, the guy isn't all there.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by UnSubRocky on Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:02am

John Smith wrote on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:39pm:
time for your meds again old man ::)


I think he does need some medication. But perhaps he needs to self-medicate.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by John Smith on Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:12am

Gnads wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:39am:
Grin Who says?



says me ... you can tell that by the name on my post

FYI, you;'re not that far behind him, in both the demented and the approaching death bed stages

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Gnads on Sep 26th, 2024 at 12:53pm

mothra wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:00am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:39am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:45pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:43pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:39pm:
time for your meds again old man ::)


Just grab yourself a glass of wine and keep treading water mentally - you'll be fine...


ohh i know i'll be fine. Geriatric old fools like you are dying out. I'll be here long after you're all gone ;D


;D Who says? Been looking into your crystal ball or star gazing? More like navel gazing.

It's a relatively short journey & you're well on your way to being a geriatric old fool, you're already the fool part.


Get your hand off it, Gonads. he may often be on your side but even you have to admit, surely, that Crappler is wandering aimlessly in yonder paddock.

Seriously, the guy isn't all there.


The bloke isn't any further gone than you.

Oh & btw I'll put my hand on it whenever I like ...

it's the only thing I can truly call my own.

Everything else has been appropriated by women & lunatic minorities :P

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Gnads on Sep 26th, 2024 at 12:55pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:12am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:39am:
Grin Who says?



says me ... you can tell that by the name on my post

FYI, you;'re not that far behind him, in both the demented and the approaching death bed stages



So? as I pointed out to you you're not far behind in relative terms.

As far as being demented - people in glass houses ... must ardent looney leftoids are.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by John Smith on Sep 26th, 2024 at 1:06pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 12:55pm:
So?



so you agree that you're demented.

Anything else after that are just the ravings of a mad man.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Gnads on Sep 26th, 2024 at 1:29pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 1:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 12:55pm:
So?



so you agree that you're demented.

Anything else after that are just the ravings of a mad man.


You believe what you will ... you have a weird  manipulative imagination where you read into things what ever pops into la tua stupida testa.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by John Smith on Sep 26th, 2024 at 1:30pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 1:29pm:
You believe what you will ... you have a weird  manipulative imagination where you read into things what ever pops into la tua stupida testa. 



also known as the truth


Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Gnads on Sep 26th, 2024 at 2:12pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 1:30pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 1:29pm:
You believe what you will ... you have a weird  manipulative imagination where you read into things what ever pops into la tua stupida testa. 



also known as the truth


There you go again. ;D

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by buzzanddidj on Sep 26th, 2024 at 7:41pm

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 19th, 2024 at 9:33pm:
With record breaking immigration under the Albo labor party the primary reason for the growth.



Immigration into Australia had a slight 'correction' last year, to cover the drop in numbered, over the COVID19 exclusion - and those that left the country over the same timeframe.

Immigration intake will return to schedule, and has commenced returning to schedule, over the 24/25 financial year.

Australia NEEDS immigration to combat the falling birth rate
- and aging population issues,
to stop an increasing reliance on welfare, overtaking tax receipts.

An increased population increases retail spending, by the BILLIONS - a benefit to ALL aspects of the economy.
This correction is widely acknowledged as the reason the Australian economy has not gone into recession.

If immigration intake were made up from Americans, Canadians, New Zealanders and the British - any increase in number wouldn't create so much as a ripple from Peter Dutton, "Dopey Dan" Tehan, Michael Sukkar, Jane Hume, Agnes Taylor,
Michaelia"the loon" Cash and rest of the LibNat 'government in exile' - not forgetting the LibNat Policy Development Team - aka SKY TV Late Night News vlog
(AKA "the bat-sh!t-crazy hours")

So It's PAINFULLY clear where all this xenophobia surrounding Islamic, black immigration and refugees is coming from.

I has NOTHING to do with water surety, housing - and too many cars on the road

... though an open door to xenophobia, RACISTS and RACISM has been opened - pure and simple, but don't expect any admissions




Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:19pm

We definitely need immigration but it has to be controlled
in the numbers and types of people we let in.



Immigration

Labor's Housing Crisis: Stripping Australians of Homeownership – One Nation Fights Back

Jump to 1:18 -

out of all the people they imported only 1,800 were qualified tradies
from 737,000 people  2022/ 2023


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07A88HUY-oQ

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Setanta on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:23pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 7:41pm:
Australia NEEDS immigration to combat the falling birth rate
- and aging population issues,
to stop an increasing reliance on welfare, overtaking tax receipts.


Are you doing your bit or leaving it up to immigration to cover your lack of offspring?

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:48pm

Setanta wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:23pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 7:41pm:
Australia NEEDS immigration to combat the falling birth rate
- and aging population issues,
to stop an increasing reliance on welfare, overtaking tax receipts.


Are you doing your bit or leaving it up to immigration to cover your lack of offspring?



He can't reproduce - he's a homo.    :-[

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Setanta on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:48pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:23pm:
[quote author=buzzanddidj link=1726745613/75#75 date=1727343693]
Australia NEEDS immigration to combat the falling birth rate
- and aging population issues,
to stop an increasing reliance on welfare, overtaking tax receipts.


Are you doing your bit or leaving it up to immigration to cover your lack of offspring?



He can't reproduce - he's a homo.    :-[/quote]

Sorry, I missed /s thing, didn't I?

So are poofs part of the problem or the solution Bobby?

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 26th, 2024 at 9:12pm

Setanta wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:48pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:23pm:
[quote author=buzzanddidj link=1726745613/75#75 date=1727343693]
Australia NEEDS immigration to combat the falling birth rate
- and aging population issues,
to stop an increasing reliance on welfare, overtaking tax receipts.


Are you doing your bit or leaving it up to immigration to cover your lack of offspring?



He can't reproduce - he's a homo.    :-[/quote]

Sorry, I missed /s thing, didn't I?

So are poofs part of the problem or the solution Bobby?



The problem.

Too many people - too many people making too many problems -
and not much love to around -  the land of confusion:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGMTGkhWrLM


Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Aurora Complexus on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:35pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:43pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:39pm:
time for your meds again old man ::)


Just grab yourself a glass of wine and keep treading water mentally - you'll be fine...

They're eating the dogs
They're eating the cats
They're eating the pets
Of the people
Of Strathfield....


Strathfield is a very interesting example. Any place near a railroad station is a good investment, and Strathfield isn't just  a railroad station, it's a rail hub.

Buy and hold. Don't just whinge about white people who sold up and now regret it.

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Aurora Complexus on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:54pm

Setanta wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:48pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:23pm:
[quote author=buzzanddidj link=1726745613/75#75 date=1727343693]
Australia NEEDS immigration to combat the falling birth rate
- and aging population issues,
to stop an increasing reliance on welfare, overtaking tax receipts.


Are you doing your bit or leaving it up to immigration to cover your lack of offspring?



He can't reproduce - he's a homo.    :-[/quote]

Sorry, I missed /s thing, didn't I?

So are poofs part of the problem or the solution Bobby?


Poofs are part of the solution. Poofs (and lesbians) adopt children no-one else wants. Sometimes they 'commission' children from women who aren't interested in raising children. In both cases they help increase the born population.

But in my opinion, the real heros as immigrants having children. The children do start out with foreign ideology, and in a few cases this is pathological: they become violently opposed to Australian values. But that is outweighed by parental urges to be good in school, to enter a profession, or in some cases to be successful by hard work rather than qualifications.

Remember how we despised the Vietnamese as bums and drug dealers? Nothing about Vietnam was good, the Vietnamese were bums fleeing a failed state. But they took the opportunity, and raised their children well. Now if you need a surgeon or a radiologist, chances are their parents were Vietnamese.

It is so for all nationalities. Everyone wants the best for their children, and it's Australian bums who expect the least. Get a job in the Port Kembla steelworks, and you're OK by me. Don't you dare get a job selling cosmetics.

Immigrants have to be more open minded. So on the one hand we have second generation immigrants committing crime, and on the other hand immigrants training to be doctors or lawyers. "Doing what daddy did" or "doing what mommy did" aren't really options.

Try being a rice farmer in Australia. Or try being a cattle herder. Unless you have billions of dollars, it's not going to go well.



Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by John Smith on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:08am

Setanta wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:59pm:
So are poofs part of the problem or the solution Bobby?



are you asking goober because of his first hand experience

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Bobby. on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:14am

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:08am:

Setanta wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:59pm:
So are poofs part of the problem or the solution Bobby?



are you asking goober because of his first hand experience



All I know is that they bum chum each other's stinking butt holes.




Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by John Smith on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:56am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:14am:
All I know is that they bum chum each other's stinking butt holes.


Just a suggestion, but maybe you should stop putting your nose down there!

Title: Re: Australian population hits 27 million.
Post by Gnads on Sep 27th, 2024 at 5:47pm

Aurora Complexus wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:54pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:48pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:23pm:
[quote author=buzzanddidj link=1726745613/75#75 date=1727343693]
Australia NEEDS immigration to combat the falling birth rate
- and aging population issues,
to stop an increasing reliance on welfare, overtaking tax receipts.


Are you doing your bit or leaving it up to immigration to cover your lack of offspring?



He can't reproduce - he's a homo.    :-[/quote]

Sorry, I missed /s thing, didn't I?

So are poofs part of the problem or the solution Bobby?


Poofs are part of the solution. Poofs (and lesbians) adopt children no-one else wants. Sometimes they 'commission' children from women who aren't interested in raising children. In both cases they help increase the born population.

But in my opinion, the real heros as immigrants having children. The children do start out with foreign ideology, and in a few cases this is pathological: they become violently opposed to Australian values. But that is outweighed by parental urges to be good in school, to enter a profession, or in some cases to be successful by hard work rather than qualifications.

Remember how we despised the Vietnamese as bums and drug dealers? Nothing about Vietnam was good, the Vietnamese were bums fleeing a failed state. But they took the opportunity, and raised their children well. Now if you need a surgeon or a radiologist, chances are their parents were Vietnamese.

It is so for all nationalities. Everyone wants the best for their children, and it's Australian bums who expect the least. Get a job in the Port Kembla steelworks, and you're OK by me. Don't you dare get a job selling cosmetics.

Immigrants have to be more open minded. So on the one hand we have second generation immigrants committing crime, and on the other hand immigrants training to be doctors or lawyers. "Doing what daddy did" or "doing what mommy did" aren't really options.

Try being a rice farmer in Australia. Or try being a cattle herder. Unless you have billions of dollars, it's not going to go well.


Infertile hetrosexual couples do that to.

I think they out number poofs.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/couple-offered-son-to-paedophiles-20130630-2p5eg.html

https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/couple-pimped-their-adopted-sons-out-to-pedophile-ring-report/


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