When all else fails, just make up random sh!t and hope like hell it sticks...

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/15/politics/fact-check-trump-harris-military-draft/index.html

This isn't a new tactic.

Can we call it a tactic? Seems a stretch.

Trumpism is predicated on the assumption that its supporters are blood-simple.

It's not a result of 'postmodern extremism' in itself such that anyone can be manipulated by blatant misinformation... it's just that blood-simple meatheadism is a feature of American society.

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Now he's just making random sh!t up!!!

What do you mean 'now'? Where have you been the last 5 years?

John Smith wrote on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 8:30am:

Quote: Now he's just making random sh!t up!!! What do you mean 'now'? Where have you been the last 5 years?

I really mean since the debate...

JD just admitted he was making up stories about the Cats and Dogs thing,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1fCuqp3HYI

"The American media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump a I start talking about cat memes. If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do"

Translation: “Trump and I will lie and say anything to get elected, even if innocent people are hurt.”

https://twitter.com/i/status/1834585071875158502
                      ..... unconfirmed reports from a highly placed insider who cannot be named are coming in of an armed hold-up at the Springfield dog and cat pound........ according to reports three armed and unidentifed men approached the front gate armed and forced the old lady volunteer to open the gates and give them the cage keys.... so far local authorities have counted up to five hundred animals stolen ....  people of Springfield and surrounding areas are advised to stay indoors and not to confront anyone seen with a sack of cats or leading a horde of dogs..... dog walkers are advised to curtail their activities for the foreseeable future ............and citizens are requested to report any signs of unusual barbecues or open fires, particularly in the refo end of town .............................

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 10:53am:

JD just admitted he was making up stories about the Cats and Dogs thing, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1fCuqp3HYI "The American media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump a I start talking about cat memes. If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do" Translation: “Trump and I will lie and say anything to get elected, even if innocent people are hurt.”

https://www.mmm-online.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/08/JD-Vance-Quality-Meats-UWP-CUS.jpg

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 10:53am:

JD just admitted he was making up stories about the Cats and Dogs thing, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1fCuqp3HYI "The American media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump a I start talking about cat memes. If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do" Translation: “Trump and I will lie and say anything to get elected, even if innocent people are hurt.”

Sadly, there are still millions of people who will vote for these two oxygen thieves no matter how low they go.

so what?

trump just likes to riff

its when he is at his best and in flow and entertaining

its no different to that uncle we all have who tells big stories

no one fact checks old crazy uncle

people kinda like the guy and his amusing anecdotes

leftie intellectuals (hilary, nancy, liz warren, wong, plibosek) are like that lemon lipped old scalding aunty everyone hated

that whiney self absorbed. holier then thow, frigid mole

is harris such a person?

can she riff and free associate and amuse?

maybe

in which case she wins.

if she starts lecturing the electorate the way many women of the left do, she will quickly lose the support of the masses

aquascoot wrote on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 12:25pm:

so what? trump just likes to riff its when he is at his best and in flow and entertaining its no different to that uncle we all have who tells big stories no one fact checks old crazy uncle people kinda like the guy and his amusing anecdotes leftie intellectuals (hilary, nancy, liz warren, wong, plibosek) are like that lemon lipped old scalding aunty everyone hated that whiney self absorbed. holier then thow, frigid mole is harris such a person? can she riff and free associate and amuse? maybe in which case she wins. if she starts lecturing the electorate the way many women of the left do, she will quickly lose the support of the masses

The only difference of course is "that uncle we all have who tells big stories" doesn't have access to nuclear missile launch codes and the ability to start World War 3.

As for the rest of your boring word salad, I might get around to addressing that when I wake up agai..... zzzzzzz...

aquascoot wrote on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 12:25pm:

so what? trump just likes to riff

Tell that to the schools receiving bomb threats, the hospitals going into lockdown and the innocent immigrants, in the US legally, who are now at risk just living their daily lives.

But "so what?" right?

Who cares so long as it wins him votes?

aquascoot wrote on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 12:25pm:

no one fact checks old crazy uncle

no one votes for him to be the president either you dumbrse ::)

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 11:18am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:53am: JD just admitted he was making up stories about the Cats and Dogs thing, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1fCuqp3HYI "The American media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump a I start talking about cat memes. If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do" Translation: “Trump and I will lie and say anything to get elected, even if innocent people are hurt.” Sadly, there are still millions of people who will vote for these two oxygen thieves no matter how low they go.

Sad, but true.

And yes, they are true oxygen thieves.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSvBGTOXwAA9bzd.jpg

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 10:53am:

JD just admitted he was making up stories about the Cats and Dogs thing, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1fCuqp3HYI "The American media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump a I start talking about cat memes. If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do" Translation: “Trump and I will lie and say anything to get elected, even if innocent people are hurt.”

Oh ja, and loving it. There he is, Yale law graduate, published author and VP candidate, admitting he's telling fibs.

But what fibs, eh? These aren't sabre-rattling fibs of the WMD kind, these are lies targeting refugees, the most voiceless and vulnerable group in America. Families the US has offered temporary asylum to save their lives.

And there we have it. JD just admitted he lied to exploit them for political purposes. All those lies told by "witnesses" - a top-down plot. All those memes posted by Bobi and the old boy - fake. Their entire agenda - exposed.

JD has just admitted that he wasn't speaking on behalf of his constituents at all. Those lies were started by his own office, in collaboration with white supremacist social media influencers, neo-Nazis like Laura Loomer. A gen-u-wine, top-down, Deep Fake conspiracy.

JD knows the base, a gun-toting extremists who regularly do the Leader's work by trolling the enemy, making death threats and creating bomb scares. They target judges, witnesses, government employees and public health officials. JD's not being irresponsible, this is deliberate: a coordinated fear campaign targeting the most vulnerable people in America.

And here, on the other side of the world, the Bobis, the old boys and Sir Nails join in. So now we know, this is how it goes.

JD said.

FD wrote on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

And here, on the other side of the world, the Bobis, the old boys and Sir Nails join in. So now we know, this is how it goes. JD said.

We are well aware that JD fabricated these stories, and we know they originated and were perpetuated by literal Nazis, 4chan, and the likes of Bobi and Nail, who continue to spread these falsehoods.

All the official sources, from local government to the police, have confirmed that there are no credible reports of such incidents occurring. This leaves only the Nazis and conspiracy theorists asserting that it’s happening, and yet, that seems to be enough for Bobi and Nail?

It certainly does not reflect well on them...

aquascoot wrote on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 12:25pm:

so what? trump just likes to riff its when he is at his best and in flow and entertaining its no different to that uncle we all have who tells big stories no one fact checks old crazy uncle people kinda like the guy and his amusing anecdotes leftie intellectuals (hilary, nancy, liz warren, wong, plibosek) are like that lemon lipped old scalding aunty everyone hated that whiney self absorbed. holier then thow, frigid mole is harris such a person? can she riff and free associate and amuse? maybe in which case she wins. if she starts lecturing the electorate the way many women of the left do, she will quickly lose the support of the masses

Your DL's "riffs" typically come from a teleprompter. In this case, his eating-the-dogs riff was rehearsed and recited. It's writer, Laura Loomer, was seen getting off the plane with him prior to the debate, her script in hand.

You've got to get it out there, she told him. They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats, they're stealing your pets. Say it like that.

So he did. As soon as those words came out of his mouth, he lost the debate. Anybody who would make such a ludicrous claim in a debate shows how desperate they are. Worse, this wasn't any old debate, this was a presidential debate - a contest for the leadership of the United States of America.

Putin is said to have laughed his head off. Foreign leaders will be referencing it for years. It's possibly worse than his bleach injection comments. It's up there with saying he'd tell Putin to invade fellow NATO members - that undermined the treaty itself.

This one undermines American law. A potential US president spreading lies about people America has granted asylum, undermining US policy and immediately putting their lives at risk from his own base - it's as desperate as it gets.

Now, you don't need me to tell you how awful this is. You support immigration. Immigrants, you say, are a valuable source of labour, particularly those from developing countries, who value their opportunities, career options and education for their kids. You don't notice skin colour, anymore than you notice hair or eye colour. So how could you possibly think that a candidate who tells such lies is credible?

He's even doubled down. Not only are Americans' pets at risk, some of them may even be cannibals. DL is going on Truth Social to tell Americans that they're not safe in bed at night. He says the people you value as aspirational, hardworking migrants are out to steal the American people in the middle of the night and take them home to eat. 

He's made this the central issue of his campaign. Just think, he's so triggered by having his lie make him look like a complete fool, he's ignoring his advisers and the focus-group tested polling on the cost of living. He's ignoring the pleas of Republican Congresspeople and Senators to get back to kitchen table issues like inflation. He's so triggered by the backlash to his lie, he's decided to bunker down and turn his campaign into a white supremacist call to arms.

So there you have it. The Superior Man bounces out of bed with a plan, fixes upon his goal, sets his course and advances. Full steam ahead, steady as she goes.

You were right to have dumped DL in the first place.

Ron D for 2028, no?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 3:24pm:

FD wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 3:13pm: And here, on the other side of the world, the Bobis, the old boys and Sir Nails join in. So now we know, this is how it goes. JD said. We are well aware that JD fabricated these stories, and we know they originated and were perpetuated by literal Nazis, 4chan, and the likes of Bobi and Nail, who continue to spread these falsehoods. All the official sources, from local government to the police, have confirmed that there are no credible reports of such incidents occurring. This leaves only the Nazis and conspiracy theorists asserting that it’s happening, and yet, that seems to be enough for Bobi and Nail? It certainly does not reflect well on them...

Just so. Everybody knows that the ship is sinking, everybody knows that the captain lied.

We knew all this, it was just good to hear JD own up to it.

Bobi, Sir Nail, the old boy and their confused, on-and-off-again apologist collaborators. They're caught in the trap.

Everybody knows.

FD wrote on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 4:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 12:25pm: so what? trump just likes to riff its when he is at his best and in flow and entertaining its no different to that uncle we all have who tells big stories no one fact checks old crazy uncle people kinda like the guy and his amusing anecdotes leftie intellectuals (hilary, nancy, liz warren, wong, plibosek) are like that lemon lipped old scalding aunty everyone hated that whiney self absorbed. holier then thow, frigid mole is harris such a person? can she riff and free associate and amuse? maybe in which case she wins. if she starts lecturing the electorate the way many women of the left do, she will quickly lose the support of the masses Your DL's "riffs" typically come from a teleprompter. In this case, his eating-the-dogs riff was rehearsed and recited. It's writer, Laura Loomer, was seen getting off the plane with him prior to the debate, her script in hand. You've got to get it out there, she told him. They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats, they're stealing your pets. Say it like that. So he did. As soon as those words came out of his mouth, he lost the debate. Anybody who would make such a ludicrous claim in a debate shows how desperate they are. Worse, this wasn't any old debate, this was a presidential debate - a contest for the leadership of the United States of America. Putin is said to have laughed his head off. Foreign leaders will be referencing it for years. It's possibly worse than his bleach injection comments. It's up there with saying he'd tell Putin to invade fellow NATO members - that undermined the treaty itself. This one undermines American law. A potential US president spreading lies about people America has granted asylum, undermining US policy and immediately putting their lives at risk from his own base - it's as desperate as it gets. Now, you don't need me to tell you how awful this is. You support immigration. Immigrants, you say, are a valuable source of labour, particularly those from developing countries, who value their opportunities, career options and education for their kids. You don't notice skin colour, anymore than you notice hair or eye colour. So how could you possibly think that a candidate who tells such lies is credible? He's even doubled down. Not only are Americans' pets at risk, some of them may even be cannibals. DL is going on Truth Social to tell Americans that they're not safe in bed at night. He says the people you value as aspirational, hardworking migrants are out to steal the American people in the middle of the night and take them home to eat.  He's made this the central issue of his campaign. Just think, he's so triggered by having his lie make him look like a complete fool, he's ignoring his advisers and the focus-group tested polling on the cost of living. He's ignoring the pleas of Republican Congresspeople and Senators to get back to kitchen table issues like inflation. He's so triggered by the backlash to his lie, he's decided to bunker down and turn his campaign into a white supremacist call to arms.

You are fantasizing again. Is gweggy holding your... er... hand?

FD wrote on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 4:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 12:25pm: so what? trump just likes to riff its when he is at his best and in flow and entertaining its no different to that uncle we all have who tells big stories no one fact checks old crazy uncle people kinda like the guy and his amusing anecdotes leftie intellectuals (hilary, nancy, liz warren, wong, plibosek) are like that lemon lipped old scalding aunty everyone hated that whiney self absorbed. holier then thow, frigid mole is harris such a person? can she riff and free associate and amuse? maybe in which case she wins. if she starts lecturing the electorate the way many women of the left do, she will quickly lose the support of the masses Your DL's "riffs" typically come from a teleprompter. In this case, his eating-the-dogs riff was rehearsed and recited. It's writer, Laura Loomer, was seen getting off the plane with him prior to the debate, her script in hand. You've got to get it out there, she told him. They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats, they're stealing your pets. Say it like that. So he did. As soon as those words came out of his mouth, he lost the debate. Anybody who would make such a ludicrous claim in a debate shows how desperate they are. Worse, this wasn't any old debate, this was a presidential debate - a contest for the leadership of the United States of America. Putin is said to have laughed his head off. Foreign leaders will be referencing it for years. It's possibly worse than his bleach injection comments. It's up there with saying he'd tell Putin to invade fellow NATO members - that undermined the treaty itself. This one undermines American law. A potential US president spreading lies about people America has granted asylum, undermining US policy and immediately putting their lives at risk from his own base - it's as desperate as it gets. Now, you don't need me to tell you how awful this is. You support immigration. Immigrants, you say, are a valuable source of labour, particularly those from developing countries, who value their opportunities, career options and education for their kids. You don't notice skin colour, anymore than you notice hair or eye colour. So how could you possibly think that a candidate who tells such lies is credible? He's even doubled down. Not only are Americans' pets at risk, some of them may even be cannibals. DL is going on Truth Social to tell Americans that they're not safe in bed at night. He says the people you value as aspirational, hardworking migrants are out to steal the American people in the middle of the night and take them home to eat.  He's made this the central issue of his campaign. Just think, he's so triggered by having his lie make him look like a complete fool, he's ignoring his advisers and the focus-group tested polling on the cost of living. He's ignoring the pleas of Republican Congresspeople and Senators to get back to kitchen table issues like inflation. He's so triggered by the backlash to his lie, he's decided to bunker down and turn his campaign into a white supremacist call to arms. So there you have it. The Superior Man bounces out of bed with a plan, fixes upon his goal, sets his course and advances. Full steam ahead, steady as she goes. You were right to have dumped DL in the first place. Ron D for 2028, no?

Well said.

That'll trigger 'em.

Nah - they're doing takeaway...

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