Australian Politics Forum
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl
Member Run Boards >> Fringe >> JFK assassination
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1724588735

Message started by Bobby. on Aug 25th, 2024 at 10:25pm

Title: JFK assassination
Post by Bobby. on Aug 25th, 2024 at 10:25pm
The Ministry of Truth:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/08/24/jfk-assassination-records-trump-release/





Democrats FBI Media Outraged - Trump vowed to release all remaining JFK files. What could they contain? - by Kyle Melnick (Washington Post) 24 Aug 2024 - Some Speculate That Israel and LBJ Organized The Assassination - After independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. suspended his campaign and endorsed Donald Trump on Friday, the Republican nominee pledged that if he’s elected to the White House, he will release all the documents related to the 1963 assassination of Kennedy’s uncle.

“This is a tribute in honor of Bobby,” Trump said at a Friday evening rally in the Phoenix area. “I will establish a new independent presidential commission on assassination attempts, and they will be tasked with releasing all of the remaining documents pertaining to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.”

For decades after the killing, many documents related to the event were withheld from the public, spurring conspiracy theories.

The Warren Commission, which was created a week after John F. Kennedy’s death in November 1963, said that gunman Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in Dallas. But others have continued to question whether Oswald worked with Soviet, Cuban or CIA agents. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told a New York radio station last year that he believes the CIA was involved in his uncle’s murder.

Congress passed a law more than three decades ago intended to put to rest questions about the assassination by declassifying relevant records, but there remain more than 3,000 documents that still contain redactions, according to the National Archives and Records Administration, leaving some researchers puzzled.

When were the documents supposed to be released?

Title: Re: JFK assassination
Post by Bobby. on Aug 25th, 2024 at 10:25pm
cont

The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992 declared that all the documents about the assassination should be made publicly available by October 2017. However, the law allowed U.S. officials to postpone the release of documents if they thought national security and privacy concerns outweighed the public interest in disclosure.

Roughly 320,000 documents were identified and slated to be declassified after the law passed.

The law was signed the year after the release of director Oliver Stone’s political thriller “JFK,” a fictional portrayal of a New Orleans district attorney who found evidence of a conspiracy behind Kennedy’s death.

What documents remain hidden?

U.S. officials have cited privacy and national security concerns multiple times for postponing the release of some documents.

When he was president in 2017, Trump announced that he planned to publicly disclose the remaining documents but ultimately delayed the release of some files for national security reasons, saying they would be released by October 2021. In 2018, Trump authorized the disclosure of 19,045 documents, many of which contained redactions.

In October 2021, President Joe Biden also postponed the planned release of the documents, citing delays prompted by the coronavirus pandemic.

“Temporary continued postponement is necessary to protect against identifiable harm to the military defense, intelligence operations, law enforcement, or the conduct of foreign relations that is of such gravity that it outweighs the public interest in immediate disclosure,” Biden said at the time.

Biden released more than 13,000 documents in the following years, but in June 2023, he announced that he had made his “final certification” on files to be released, transferring his power to disclose documents to U.S. agencies.

Gerald Posner, who wrote the 1993 Kennedy assassination book “Case Closed,” said he isn’t sure whether Trump will follow through on his promise if he’s elected in November.

“You had an opportunity to do it, you said you were going to do it, and you didn’t do it,” Posner said about Trump. “Now, with the RFK Jr. endorsement, maybe that’s a quid pro quo, and maybe this time he’ll actually do it.”


Title: Re: JFK assassination
Post by Bobby. on Aug 25th, 2024 at 10:26pm
cont.

What revelations have been gleaned from documents released in recent years?
Tens of thousands of documents were released between 2018 and last year. The last large batch of released documents came in December 2022, when Biden disclosed 13,173 documents.

Jefferson Morley, the editor of the JFK Facts newsletter, said a few revelations have arisen from those releases. The documents showed that some CIA employees didn’t believe Oswald acted alone, Morley said, and a counterintelligence official tried to “wait out” the Warren Commission’s investigation by denying it information about Oswald.

Posner, however, said that many of the recently released documents haven’t revealed a smoking gun, and he doubts the remaining documents will either.

“Some of the biggest headlines that have been pulled from the JFK files the last four or five years are what I call tabloid stories about stories that were actually old,” Posner said.

Some of the documents released since 2022 shed light on Oswald’s actions in the months before the assassination. One document from June 1962 indicated that Oswald might have been on the CIA’s radar more than a year before Kennedy’s assassination. Another said the CIA intercepted a call Oswald made in October 1963 from Mexico City to the Soviet Embassy there, wanting someone in the building “to send a tele-gram for him to Washington.”

Last summer, a newly unredacted copy of a document named the CIA employee who intercepted Oswald’s mail before Kennedy’s murder.

What could we learn from the remaining files?

Morley and Posner said they believe the remaining documents might show that the CIA was aware of Oswald before the assassination.

Morley said the evidence released so far leads him to suspect Kennedy’s opponents in the CIA might’ve been working with Oswald and the remaining documents could prove or disprove that theory. Posner said he thinks Oswald acted alone and the remaining documents might show the CIA failed to report him to the FBI before the assassination.

A CIA spokesperson told The Washington Post in 2022 that the agency was not withholding information about Oswald or the assassination.



Title: Re: JFK assassination
Post by Bobby. on Aug 25th, 2024 at 10:26pm
cont.

“CIA believes all substantive information known to be directly related to Oswald has been released,” the spokesperson said. “The few remaining redactions protect CIA employee names, sources, locations, and CIA tradecraft.”

Even if all the Kennedy documents are released, Posner said he doesn’t think the conspiracy theories will end.

“Let’s say it doesn’t add to any evidence of a conspiracy in the case,” Posner said about the unreleased information. “People believing in conspiracy will say, ‘Well, see, there you go. They destroyed the real documents.’”

Despite their differences about what they think happened on Nov. 22, 1963, in Dallas’s Dealey Plaza, both Posner and Morley hope to see the records fully released.

“Is there a smoking gun in there? You know, this is not about a smoking gun,” Morley said. “This is about the law that says all of the government’s JFK records should be made public by October 2017. We’re seven years past that blown deadline.”

Title: Re: JFK assassination
Post by Bobby. on Aug 25th, 2024 at 10:30pm
Looks like the Ministry of Truth will never release all the files.

What are they hiding after 61 years?

Joe Biden was 21 when it happened.

Title: Re: JFK assassination
Post by Rockys Revenge on Aug 29th, 2024 at 12:55pm
Joe Biden had nothing to do with the shooting, Blubby.

Title: Re: JFK assassination
Post by Rockys Revenge on Aug 29th, 2024 at 1:00pm
Joe Biden had dark hair, at age 21. The second shooter had blond hair.

Joe Biden in the 1960s

Why don't you ever accept the word of people who witnessed what was going on at Elm Street?

Title: Re: JFK assassination
Post by Bobby. on Aug 29th, 2024 at 1:04pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 29th, 2024 at 1:00pm:
Joe Biden had dark hair, at age 21. The second shooter had blond hair.

Joe Biden in the 1960s

Why don't you ever accept the word of people who witnessed what was going on at Elm Street?


Who was on the grassy knoll?

Title: Re: JFK assassination
Post by Rockys Revenge on Aug 29th, 2024 at 1:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 29th, 2024 at 1:04pm:
Who was on the grassy knoll?


Blond haired male, mid 20s. Fired the fatal shot. As witnessed by friends of my great-uncle in the United States.

Title: Re: JFK assassination
Post by Jovial Monk on Aug 29th, 2024 at 1:46pm
Whi says anybody was there?

Title: Re: JFK assassination
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 29th, 2024 at 4:23pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 29th, 2024 at 1:46pm:
Whi says anybody was there?


Monk... My great-uncle was in the support team that resupplied those in New Guinea. I have a dvd on "Kokoda". My great uncle was featured as having pushed the supplies to the soldiers in WW2.

Long story short... my great uncle made friends with the US Navy personnel who were stationed in my township. They kept in touch with the each other through the years. Some WW2 veterans were watching the parade on November 22, 1963. They said that witnesses saw a blond man, beatnik hairstyle, firing a small calibre rifle from a distance of 200 metres from where the president was hit. The lady said that the sniper "no scoped" the fatal shot on the president.

Title: Re: JFK assassination
Post by Jovial Monk on Aug 29th, 2024 at 4:34pm
Interesting. That what the investigation said?

Title: Re: JFK assassination
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 29th, 2024 at 5:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 29th, 2024 at 1:04pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 29th, 2024 at 1:00pm:
Joe Biden had dark hair, at age 21. The second shooter had blond hair.

Joe Biden in the 1960s

Why don't you ever accept the word of people who witnessed what was going on at Elm Street?


Who was on the grassy knoll?


The assassin...

Title: Re: JFK assassination
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 29th, 2024 at 5:15pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 29th, 2024 at 4:34pm:
Interesting. That what the investigation said?


There was probably about 100 witnesses. One lady that stuck her head around the corner to see what was what, told her friends. They did a group think about what happened. They were threatened by police to not tell any more.

Watch Farenheit 9/11. You will understand.

Title: Re: JFK assassination
Post by freediver on May 23rd, 2026 at 11:04am
This Topic was moved here from Fringe by freediver.

Australian Politics Forum » Powered by YaBB 2.5.2!
YaBB Forum Software © 2000-2026. All Rights Reserved.