Australians will have to make do with mentally regurgitating past failures of Ukraine offensives and delusions that they are winning.

The next issue appears to be that Ukrainians are unlikely to spend much flying time in F16s (if they arrive) because they don't have the technicians capable of keeping them flying.

No soup for you, Zelensky.

Sorry darlings. Keep fantasizing.

https://www.rt.com/news/600928-nato-aid-ukraine-offensive/


Quote:

No new Ukrainian offensive this year despite NATO aid – NYT Some of the arms pledged to Kiev are yet to be produced, according to the newspaper No new Ukrainian offensive this year despite NATO aid – NYT NATO officials do not expect Kiev to mount a new attempt to push back Russian troops this year, despite billions of dollars worth of new weapons pledged by member states, the New York Times reported on Thursday. Kiev was promised more missiles, armored vehicles, and munitions this week at a NATO summit in Washington, and the US and its allies signed a long-term pledge of assistance. But it will take months and years before the weapons are delivered, considering that some of them are yet to be manufactured, the newspaper said. Speaking on condition of anonymity, one senior NATO official told the Times that the aid puts Kiev on the path to a new offensive next year. Another one said Ukrainian troops would remain on the defensive for at least six more months. ...

It's a stalemate like the Western front in 1917.
It wasn't till the Yanks arrived and kicked the Germans out that WW1 ended.
https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/1918-victory


Maybe it will be the same for Ukraine?

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2024 at 10:52pm:

It's a stalemate like the Western front in 1917. It wasn't till the Yanks arrived and kicked the Germans out that WW1 ended. https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/1918-victory Maybe it will be the same for Ukraine?

Kick the Krauts in the crotch?

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 12^th, 2024 at 10:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2024 at 10:52pm: It's a stalemate like the Western front in 1917. It wasn't till the Yanks arrived and kicked the Germans out that WW1 ended. https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/1918-victory Maybe it will be the same for Ukraine? Kick the Krauts in the crotch?

The Yanks will have to arrive in Ukraine as part of NATO -
a coalition of the willing - and kick the Russians out.
Ukraine can't do it on its own with one arm tied behind its back.
They are not allowed to fire rockets and missiles more than 100km into Russia.
Dopey Biden told them that.

Meanwhile - Russia has open season on Ukraine's cities -
targeting a kids hospital on Monday in Kyiv.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2024 at 11:03pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 12th, 2024 at 10:57pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2024 at 10:52pm: It's a stalemate like the Western front in 1917. It wasn't till the Yanks arrived and kicked the Germans out that WW1 ended. https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/1918-victory Maybe it will be the same for Ukraine? Kick the Krauts in the crotch? The Yanks will have to arrive in Ukraine as part of NATO - a coalition of the willing - and kick the Russians out.

not happening

JC Denton wrote on Jul 12^th, 2024 at 11:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2024 at 11:03pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 12th, 2024 at 10:57pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2024 at 10:52pm: It's a stalemate like the Western front in 1917. It wasn't till the Yanks arrived and kicked the Germans out that WW1 ended. https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/1918-victory Maybe it will be the same for Ukraine? Kick the Krauts in the crotch? The Yanks will have to arrive in Ukraine as part of NATO - a coalition of the willing - and kick the Russians out. not happening

Who knows what Trump and NATO will do?

NATO may prefer to fight the Russians in Ukraine rather than on their own soil.

New York is under attack.

https://understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Toretsk%20Battle%20Map%20Draft%20July%2012%2C%202024.png

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2024 at 11:10pm:

JC Denton wrote on Jul 12th, 2024 at 11:05pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2024 at 11:03pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 12th, 2024 at 10:57pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2024 at 10:52pm: It's a stalemate like the Western front in 1917. It wasn't till the Yanks arrived and kicked the Germans out that WW1 ended. https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/1918-victory Maybe it will be the same for Ukraine? Kick the Krauts in the crotch? The Yanks will have to arrive in Ukraine as part of NATO - a coalition of the willing - and kick the Russians out. not happening Who knows what Trump and NATO will do? NATO may prefer to fight the Russians in Ukraine rather than on their own soil.

no one wants to kill everyone on earth over a place the media told us we should care about for some reason in 2022

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