That moron is about to be released after a plea deal.  He will be heading here, but the sooner we can ship the prick out back to the UK the better. (Maybe the Poms don't want the arsehole there either.)

His Wife and their kids are there.

I don't want that sanctimonious, narcissist, Messiah complex bastard here.

Aussie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:41pm:

That moron is about to be released after a plea deal.  He will be heading here, but the sooner we can ship the prick out back to the UK the better. (Maybe the Poms don't want the arsehole there either.) His Wife and their kids are there. I don't want that xsanctimonious, narcissist, Messiah comple bastard here.

There'd be no doubt the British government won't want him in the UK... What would the US have to say about that?

If we removed all sanctimonious, narcissistic, Messiah-complex Australian citizens from Australia, we'd need a pretty big boat.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 1:41pm: That moron is about to be released after a plea deal.  He will be heading here, but the sooner we can ship the prick out back to the UK the better. (Maybe the Poms don't want the arsehole there either.) His Wife and their kids are there. I don't want that xsanctimonious, narcissist, Messiah comple bastard here. There'd be no doubt the British government won't want him in the UK... What would the US have to say about that? If we removed all sanctimonious, narcissistic, Messiah-complex Australian citizens from Australia, we'd need a pretty big boat.

They will be finished with him as soon as he gets sentenced in that remote US Pacific Island, and flown off it.

After that, they will not give a stuff, and even if they did....deal done.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:56pm:

If we removed all sanctimonious, narcissistic, Messiah-complex Australian citizens from Australia, we'd need a pretty big boat.

Australia would be rid of Kevin Rudd and Scott Morrison.

Aussie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 2:09pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 1:56pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 1:41pm: That moron is about to be released after a plea deal.  He will be heading here, but the sooner we can ship the prick out back to the UK the better. (Maybe the Poms don't want the arsehole there either.) His Wife and their kids are there. I don't want that xsanctimonious, narcissist, Messiah comple bastard here. There'd be no doubt the British government won't want him in the UK... What would the US have to say about that? If we removed all sanctimonious, narcissistic, Messiah-complex Australian citizens from Australia, we'd need a pretty big boat. They will be finished with him as soon as he gets sentenced in that remote US Pacific Island, and flown off it. After that, they will not give a stuff, and even if they did....deal done.

So long as he isn't elevated to 'sainthood' having been 'martyred' in the cause of free speech.

The Australian government will likely impose restrictions on him now that he's a 'convicted crim'. The US will expect nothing less.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 2:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:09pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 1:56pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 1:41pm: That moron is about to be released after a plea deal.  He will be heading here, but the sooner we can ship the prick out back to the UK the better. (Maybe the Poms don't want the arsehole there either.) His Wife and their kids are there. I don't want that xsanctimonious, narcissist, Messiah comple bastard here. There'd be no doubt the British government won't want him in the UK... What would the US have to say about that? If we removed all sanctimonious, narcissistic, Messiah-complex Australian citizens from Australia, we'd need a pretty big boat. They will be finished with him as soon as he gets sentenced in that remote US Pacific Island, and flown off it. After that, they will not give a stuff, and even if they did....deal done. So long as he isn't elevated to 'sainthood' having been 'martyred' in the cause of free speech. The Australian government will likely impose restrictions on him now that he's a 'convicted crim'. The US will expect nothing less.

Of course he and his supporters will want him Sainted!  You watch.  The prick will flaunt himself around the place doing his best Jesus Christ impersonation of carrying a cross, agonising at some altar of ego for us.

The prick is nothing but a dime a dozen hacker, and he piggy backed off Chelsea Manning.

Bah Humbug.

The bloke really leaves a bad taste, always.

Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time.

Aussie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 2:22pm:

Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time.

Given he has now admitted to espionage, let's see if he's now considered a terrorist by the Australian government.

Aussie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 2:22pm:

Of course he and his supporters will want him Sainted!  You watch.  The prick will flaunt himself around the place doing his best Jesus Christ impersonation of carrying a cross, agonising at some altar of ego for us. The prick is nothing but a dime a dozen hacker, and he piggy backed off Chelsea Manning. Bah Humbug. The bloke really leaves a bad taste, always. Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time.

I wonder how much 60 Minutes will pay him for a reveal all interview?  :)

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 2:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:22pm: Of course he and his supporters will want him Sainted!  You watch.  The prick will flaunt himself around the place doing his best Jesus Christ impersonation of carrying a cross, agonising at some altar of ego for us. The prick is nothing but a dime a dozen hacker, and he piggy backed off Chelsea Manning. Bah Humbug. The bloke really leaves a bad taste, always. Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time. I wonder how much 60 Minutes will pay him for a reveal all interview?  :)

And the rest of them, but the moron has got nothing to say that we have not already heard.

I hope he is imposed upon by someone (maybe Albanese) to stay away from rubbish, but you watch...the prick will be all over the TV playing Jesus Christ incarnate.

Its gonna really piss me off.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 2:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:22pm: Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time. Given he has now admitted to espionage, let's see if he's now considered a terrorist by the Australian government.

Was he trying to inspire "terror"?

Aussie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 2:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:28pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:22pm: Of course he and his supporters will want him Sainted!  You watch.  The prick will flaunt himself around the place doing his best Jesus Christ impersonation of carrying a cross, agonising at some altar of ego for us. The prick is nothing but a dime a dozen hacker, and he piggy backed off Chelsea Manning. Bah Humbug. The bloke really leaves a bad taste, always. Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time. I wonder how much 60 Minutes will pay him for a reveal all interview?  :) And the rest of them, but the moron has got nothing to say that we have not already heard. I hope he is imposed upon by someone (maybe Albanese) to stay away from rubbish, but you watch...the prick will be all over the TV playing Jesus Christ incarnate. Its gonna really piss me off.

As an aside.

I remember a WW2 movie about an actual event.
There was French resistance man inside a little hut out in the French countryside
and when the door was busted down by German soldiers they
shot him within 2 seconds with their sub machine guns
while he was still transmitting Morse code on his illegal transmitter.

Julian is actually lucky to be alive - war is never fair.

Hi Aussie,
what do you think about plea bargains?

Isn't it a form of duress to plead guilty to something you haven't done just to get out of jail?

Julian didn't do it on US territory.

Reporting that Oz was bugging the Timor government, protected soldiers who shot prisoners or had Tax collecting abuses, can get jail. Robodebt rorts by Canberra are OK, don't complain.
Or ve send you den Gestapo.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 3:46pm:

Hi Aussie, what do you think about plea bargains? Isn't it a form of duress to plead guilty to something you haven't done just to get out of jail? Julian didn't do it on US territory.

Don't come to me for excuses for this bastard.  This whole saga would have been done and dusted years ago if he had dropped the Messiah thing.

He made this bed....he is bloody lucky the US have agreed to let him go without facing the full force of their Law.

This sets a very bad precedent...behave for years like a prima donna/diva cock head, thumb your nose at the Law, breach bail, and ultimately, and let's say it...because of political and expediency considerations, you'll escape facing the Law as you should.

You watch, when he gets to Australia, he will play/milk this for every cent he can get from a willing media, hungry for any story, no matter what.

He will sing that song you have just mentioned, "I am innocent, they made me confess to get out of Jail."

The truth is, the bastard should have gone to the USA, faced the Law, made the arguments you have mentioned and more, and then I may have had some sympathy for him.

Never, now.

He would never get away with it in Russia or China. Or the Third Reich.

chimera wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 4:10pm:

He would never get away with it in Russia or China. Or the Third Reich.

Or with me.

Aussie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 4:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 3:46pm: Hi Aussie, what do you think about plea bargains? Isn't it a form of duress to plead guilty to something you haven't done just to get out of jail? Julian didn't do it on US territory. Don't come to me for excuses for this bastard.  This whole saga would have been done and dusted years ago if he had dropped the Messiah thing. He made this bed....he is bloody lucky the US have agreed to let him go without facing the full force of their Law. This sets a very bad precedent...behave for years like a prima donna/diva cock head, thumb your nose at the Law, breach bail, and ultimately, and let's say it...because of political and expediency considerations, you'll escape facing the Law as you should. You watch, when he gets to Australia, he will play/milk this for every cent he can get from a willing media, hungry for any story, no matter what. He will sing that song you have just mentioned, "I am innocent, they made me confess to get out of Jail." The truth is, the bastard should have gone to the USA, faced the Law, made the arguments you have mentioned and more, and then I may have had some sympathy for him. Never, now.

Assange was very wrong to publish the names of people in Afghanistan
who had helped the Yanks during the war. (translators etc)
The Yanks had to act quickly and at great cost and considerable risk to life
to get those people out before the Taliban murdered them.

Assange was a very irresponsible journalist who was not just a whistleblower
but someone who published 100s of 1000s of unredacted secret documents
that were stolen from the USA.
He could have received the death penalty in court. 

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 4:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 4:08pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 3:46pm: Hi Aussie, what do you think about plea bargains? Isn't it a form of duress to plead guilty to something you haven't done just to get out of jail? Julian didn't do it on US territory. Don't come to me for excuses for this bastard.  This whole saga would have been done and dusted years ago if he had dropped the Messiah thing. He made this bed....he is bloody lucky the US have agreed to let him go without facing the full force of their Law. This sets a very bad precedent...behave for years like a prima donna/diva cock head, thumb your nose at the Law, breach bail, and ultimately, and let's say it...because of political and expediency considerations, you'll escape facing the Law as you should. You watch, when he gets to Australia, he will play/milk this for every cent he can get from a willing media, hungry for any story, no matter what. He will sing that song you have just mentioned, "I am innocent, they made me confess to get out of Jail." The truth is, the bastard should have gone to the USA, faced the Law, made the arguments you have mentioned and more, and then I may have had some sympathy for him. Never, now. Assange was very wrong to publish the names of people in Afghanistan who had helped the Yanks during the war. (translators etc) The Yanks had to act quickly and at great cost and considerable risk to life to get those people out before the Taliban murdered them. Assange was a very irresponsible journalist who was not just a whistleblower but someone who published 100s of 1000s of unredacted secret documents that were stolen from the USA. He could have received the death penalty in court.

And his shanagins/tantrums/childish behaviour have worked and allowed him to avoid facing the full force of US Law.

He had already been assured he would not been given a death sentence and that he would have the same rights (ie to the 1st Amendment) as a US Citizen would.

Politics.....politics.............politics.....that's it.

Biden gets a troublesome turd off his plate, and Albanese will claim credit.

Nah.

US treason is (1) “levying war” against the United States; or (2) “adhering to [the] enemies [of the United States], giving them aid and comfort.”
Trump gave Europe to Putin.

Apart from a Post I made and another Aussie made......not one little murmur about this on the Yank Forum.

Looks like it's a great big yawn to them.

Aussie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 4:46pm:

And his shanagins/tantrums/childish behaviour have worked and allowed him to avoid facing the full force of US Law. He had already been assured he would not been given a death sentence and that he would have the same rights (ie to the 1st Amendment) as a US Citizen would. Politics.....politics.............politics.....that's it. Biden gets a troublesome turd off his plate, and Albanese will claim credit. Nah.

But as a lawyer you should be thinking about how you would have got him off the charges.
A good lawyer can get his client out of anything.

Aussie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:41pm:

That moron is about to be released after a plea deal.  He will be heading here, but the sooner we can ship the prick out back to the UK the better. (Maybe the Poms don't want the arsehole there either.) His Wife and their kids are there.

Just heard on the radio that his wife & kids are here in Australia.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 5:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 4:46pm: And his shanagins/tantrums/childish behaviour have worked and allowed him to avoid facing the full force of US Law. He had already been assured he would not been given a death sentence and that he would have the same rights (ie to the 1st Amendment) as a US Citizen would. Politics.....politics.............politics.....that's it. Biden gets a troublesome turd off his plate, and Albanese will claim credit. Nah. But as a lawyer you should be thinking about how you would have got him off the charges. A good lawyer can get his client out of anything.

All 12 jurors, all 34 charges: "Guilty!".

https://mediaproxy.salon.com/width/1200/https://media2.salon.com/2024/05/donald_trump_todd_blanche_2149588156.jpg

'wife here in Australia.'
ahhh nothing's  a secret anymore

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 5:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 4:46pm: And his shanagins/tantrums/childish behaviour have worked and allowed him to avoid facing the full force of US Law. He had already been assured he would not been given a death sentence and that he would have the same rights (ie to the 1st Amendment) as a US Citizen would. Politics.....politics.............politics.....that's it. Biden gets a troublesome turd off his plate, and Albanese will claim credit. Nah. But as a lawyer you should be thinking about how you would have got him off the charges. A good lawyer can get his client out of anything.

Not once did/have I ever refused to act for even the most grubby, but I wonder what I would have done if that poo had ever crossed my Office threshold.

I probably would have taken him  on, but you would have never seen me in the Media pushing any propaganda which is all he ever had in his defence....loud noises from rent-a-crowd, and of course, his Messiah performance/act.

I would have been spending my time and his money on finding proper defences in Law, no matter how tenuous.  In the USA, you can toss up any and all sorts of bullshit, even challenge the right of the Prosecutor to prosecute.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 5:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 1:41pm: That moron is about to be released after a plea deal.  He will be heading here, but the sooner we can ship the prick out back to the UK the better. (Maybe the Poms don't want the arsehole there either.) His Wife and their kids are there. Just heard on the radio that his wife & kids are here in Australia.

Yes, she posted a piece to camera about a week ago foreshadowing this, but it was not released until today.

This has been meticulously orchestrated, and I'll bet Albanese has been up to his arsehole involved in it all.

Grrrrrrrrr......................

All you need is Judge Cannon to hear it about Secrets.
Protect Trump : Protect wikileaking.

Aussie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 5:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 5:03pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 4:46pm: And his shanagins/tantrums/childish behaviour have worked and allowed him to avoid facing the full force of US Law. He had already been assured he would not been given a death sentence and that he would have the same rights (ie to the 1st Amendment) as a US Citizen would. Politics.....politics.............politics.....that's it. Biden gets a troublesome turd off his plate, and Albanese will claim credit. Nah. But as a lawyer you should be thinking about how you would have got him off the charges. A good lawyer can get his client out of anything. Not once did/have I ever refused to act for even the most grubby, but I wonder what I would have done if that poo had ever crossed my Office threshold. I probably would have taken him  on, but you would have never seen me in the Media pushing any propaganda which is all he ever had in his defence....loud noises from rent-a-crowd, and of course, his Messiah performance/act. I would have been spending my time and his money on finding proper defences in Law, no matter how tenuous.  In the USA, you can toss up any and all sorts of bullshit, even challenge the right of the Prosecutor to prosecute.

It sets a precedent -
any journalist - even not one in the USA can be charged for publishing secret US documents.

chimera wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 5:24pm:

All you need is Judge Cannon to hear it about Secrets. Protect Trump : Protect wikileaking.

Yes, Cannon would be a ripper to have as a Judge in any espionage case, given her performance on the matter of Humpty and his gross breaches of the Espionage Act.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 4:31pm:

Assange was very wrong to publish the names of people in Afghanistan who had helped the Yanks during the war. (translators etc) The Yanks had to act quickly and at great cost and considerable risk to life to get those people out before the Taliban murdered them. Assange was a very irresponsible journalist who was not just a whistleblower but someone who published 100s of 1000s of unredacted secret documents that were stolen from the USA. He could have received the death penalty in court.

Assange is not,  nor has he ever been,  a journalist.   And he deserved everything he copped.

They should revoke his Australian citizenship

John Smith wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 6:44pm:

They should revoke his Australian citizenship

Impossible.

But, I wonder if his Wife and kids now claim Aussie citizenship? If not, I'd be far more ruthless than Dutton and I'd send his Wife and his kids back to the UK....and if the UK let's him in with them, that's on them.  If they don't, that too is on them.

Tough titties.

This moron has escaped Justice.

But, I suspect all this has already been worked out at high levels even into the Office of Albanese, conveniently.

I hope our Media probes deep.  I'll bet I'm right.

This stinks.

Same as David Hicks who was holding a rifle ready to leave from the airport in Afghanistan. There was stinking, rotten, government interference to get him away from the United States of Afghanistan. He should have been executed.

Just watched the Brother of Assange talking to Sarah Ferguson of ABC TV......

As I have already posted....this is all political.  Not legal.

"Separation of Powers," my arse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is a joke.

Latest from Reuters:

https://www.reuters.com/world/why-is-julian-assange-flying-remote-pacific-island-saipan-2024-06-25/

Why is Julian Assange flying to the remote Pacific island of Saipan?

By Lewis Jackson

June 25, 20246:12 PM GMT+10 Updated 2 hours ago

SYDNEY, June 25 (Reuters) - Better known for its sandy beaches and Second World War wrecks, the tropical Pacific island of Saipan will soon host the final act of Julian Assange's 14-year legal odyssey.
Assange is en route to a courtroom on the island where he is expected to plead guilty on Wednesday to a single criminal charge in a plea deal that will see him walk free and return home to Australia.
WHERE IS SAIPAN?
Saipan is the capital of the Northern Mariana Islands (NMI), a U.S. commonwealth in the western Pacific which begins roughly 70 km (44 miles) north of Guam and stretches across 14 islands.
Like territories such as Guam or Puerto Rico, the Northern Mariana Islands are part of the U.S. without the full status of a state.
The roughly 51,000 residents are U.S. citizens but cannot vote in presidential elections. Crucially, some, like Saipan, also host U.S. district courts.
Assange will appear in court at 9 a.m. local time on Wednesday (2300 GMT Tuesday)

https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/VJT199/history/20240625/1355Z/VTBD/PGSN


Julian's flight:


VistaJet 199

VJT199
Expected to depart in 4 hours 8 minutes

Bangkok, Thailand  to GSN Saipan Island, MP

Tuesday 25/06/2024
21:05 +07
Wednesday 26/06/2024
06:00 ChST

The flight will cost Julian A$750,000.
Why couldn't he go on a commercial flight?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/live/2024/jun/25/julian-assange-prison-release-live-updates-plea-deal-return-australia-wikileaks-leaves-uk#top-of-blog


She confirmed that they intend to launch a fundraising campaign, after chartering a flight to take him from the UK to Australia via Thailand and the Northern Mariana Islands had cost $500,000 (£393k / $750k AUD). She told Reuters:

It’s Australian policy that he will have to pay his own return flight so he’s had to charter a flight and so he will basically be in debt when he lands in Canberra. We’re going to launch an emergency fund to try to get this money so that we can pay the Australian government back for his freedom flight.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:11pm:

The flight will cost Julian A$750,000. Why couldn't he go on a commercial flight? https://www.theguardian.com/media/live/2024/jun/25/julian-assange-prison-release-live-updates-plea-deal-return-australia-wikileaks-leaves-uk#top-of-blog She confirmed that they intend to launch a fundraising campaign, after chartering a flight to take him from the UK to Australia via Thailand and the Northern Mariana Islands had cost $500,000 (£393k / $750k AUD). She told Reuters: It’s Australian policy that he will have to pay his own return flight so he’s had to charter a flight and so he will basically be in debt when he lands in Canberra. We’re going to launch an emergency fund to try to get this money so that we can pay the Australian government back for his freedom flight.

Anyone who gives one cent is an idiot.  This is now blatant grifting.

Maybe Albanese will write out a personal cheque to cover the lot, ey?

'Freedom Flight.'

And what is she saying...we have paid and they hope to pay it back to us by these means???????????

FMD.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:11pm:

The flight will cost Julian A$750,000. Why couldn't he go on a commercial flight? https://www.theguardian.com/media/live/2024/jun/25/julian-assange-prison-release-live-updates-plea-deal-return-australia-wikileaks-leaves-uk#top-of-blog She confirmed that they intend to launch a fundraising campaign, after chartering a flight to take him from the UK to Australia via Thailand and the Northern Mariana Islands had cost $500,000 (£393k / $750k AUD). She told Reuters: It’s Australian policy that he will have to pay his own return flight so he’s had to charter a flight and so he will basically be in debt when he lands in Canberra. We’re going to launch an emergency fund to try to get this money so that we can pay the Australian government back for his freedom flight.

why can't he get an economy flight on Qantas ??

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 8:11pm: The flight will cost Julian A$750,000. Why couldn't he go on a commercial flight? https://www.theguardian.com/media/live/2024/jun/25/julian-assange-prison-release-live-updates-plea-deal-return-australia-wikileaks-leaves-uk#top-of-blog She confirmed that they intend to launch a fundraising campaign, after chartering a flight to take him from the UK to Australia via Thailand and the Northern Mariana Islands had cost $500,000 (£393k / $750k AUD). She told Reuters: It’s Australian policy that he will have to pay his own return flight so he’s had to charter a flight and so he will basically be in debt when he lands in Canberra. We’re going to launch an emergency fund to try to get this money so that we can pay the Australian government back for his freedom flight. why can't he get an economy flight on Qantas ??

yes sir Nail - or with whoever flies to Saipan?

It is a tourist destination but it's mostly a US military base.

Aussie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:41pm:

That moron is about to be released after a plea deal.  He will be heading here, but the sooner we can ship the prick out back to the UK the better. (Maybe the Poms don't want the arsehole there either.) His Wife and their kids are there. I don't want that sanctimonious, narcissist, Messiah complex bastard here.

this isnt gonna happen you delusional f_cker hahaha

no one cares about your expert legal advice taxi driver man

Ten Pound Poms were British citizens who migrated to Australia and New Zealand after the Second World War.

the chimera post something actually contextual 2024 challenge

https://www.travelweekly.com.au/article/where-is-the-hell-is-saipan-and-what-does-it-have-to-do-with-julian-assange/
A quickie US court hearing. He better not hack their computers for nuke launch codes.

Jetstar does Saipan-Sydney $1,097. Ten quid for poms.

Good decision by Biden or whoever made it. It is well past time this was over.

Dnarever wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:45pm:

Good decision by Biden or whoever made it. It is well past time this was over.

Oh, right....so if you bugger with the system long enough as he has done, you get to walk free....for smacking the system, because people think 'it is well past time.'

The prick has not spent one second of time in prison for what he has done, apart from breaching his bail conditions.

He has escaped Justice because he played the game and the cult followed, and morons, in this case, including Albanese et al have cried boo hoo for the prick, selling that weak as piss snake oil about "its been too long."

It's been as long as it has been becasue of what Assange did evading the Law!

Nah.

It would have ended years ago if the churlish prick had faced the consequences of his actions.

Where is Manning these days?  Remind me?

I agree with aussie. bugger him. He should not have got away with it.

chimera wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:29pm:

Ten Pound Poms were British citizens who migrated to Australia and New Zealand after the Second World War.

They weighed ten pounds?  That's Austerity for ya ......

I had a few rellies - Scottish - the best .... my aunt married one.... he came here as a kid with his mother and brother., their dad was killed in WWI... one of those 'Pals' Battalions... Glasgow Tramways.... Black Watch...

Aussie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 9:04pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 8:45pm: Good decision by Biden or whoever made it. It is well past time this was over. Oh, right....so if you bugger with the system long enough as he has done, you get to walk free....for smacking the system, because people think 'it is well past time.' The prick has not spent one second of time in prison for what he has done, apart from breaching his bail conditions. He has escaped Justice because he played the game and the cult followed, and morons, in this case, including Albanese et al have cried boo hoo for the prick, selling that weak as piss snake oil about "its been too long." It's been as long as it has been becasue of what Assange did evading the Law! Nah. It would have ended years ago if the churlish prick had faced the consequences of his actions. Where is Manning these days?  Remind me?

u lose b1tch

Who knows, maybe the yanks will create a plane crash as assange is flying around.  :D :D

So... "President Rudd of Australia" has turned up in Saipan to walk alongside Assange into court!

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 8:04am:

So... "President Rudd of Australia" has turned up in Saipan to walk alongside Assange into court!

Well, he is the Australian Embassador to the US, so I suppose perhaps justifiable.

But, no doubt, it is grand-standing by a kindred spirit

As the Mafia (and owners of 1933 US gold eagle coins) learned a long time ago, once you're a target of the US Feds you are a target for life - generational if necessary - with no expense spared.

Had it not been for the embarrassment and damage that the US Feds' fixation on Assange has caused to the reputation of the US, and the ugly glare it focussed on the US Constitution's 1st Amendment (denied to all non-US citizens), Assange would still be in jail in the UK.

The Feds will be licking their wounds, eased only by Assange's now permanent status as a convicted enemy of the US.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-69145409


We've just seen footage of the Wikileaks founder walking through the doors of the court in Saipan
where he is expected to formalise his plea deal with the US shortly.

Assange was seen getting out of a car,
accompanied by Australia’s ambassador to the US and former prime minister Kevin Rudd.

He then walked into the building and was filmed going through security scanners.


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/25/0dcf85dd-a4a0-4d4e-b03d-61d54fbf5fe6.png


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/25/641aa3d8-59a2-43cb-9882-f4be4877cf03.jpg

What a weird coincidence that this happens a day before the debate between Biden and Trump?

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 8:14am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 8:04am: So... "President Rudd of Australia" has turned up in Saipan to walk alongside Assange into court! Well, he is the Australian EAmbassador to the US, so I suppose perhaps justifiable. But, no doubt, it is grand-standing by a kindred spirit

Fixed ;D

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 9:09am:

What a weird coincidence that this happens a day before the debate between Biden and Trump?

Yes.

It gives Biden an avenue to raise Trump's stance on Wikileaks which he claimed to love during his election campaign and then, when president, claimed he knew nothing about.

Trump got away with it due to the Yankist inherent attention span of a gnat.

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 8:14am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 8:04am: So... "President Rudd of Australia" has turned up in Saipan to walk alongside Assange into court! Well, he is the Australian Embassador to the US, so I suppose perhaps justifiable. But, no doubt, it is grand-standing by a kindred spirit

I'd bet Albanese got a proclamation from the "President's" office that he would be attending court with Assange in Saipan!

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 9:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:09am: What a weird coincidence that this happens a day before the debate between Biden and Trump? Yes. It gives Biden an avenue to raise Trump's stance on Wikileaks which he claimed to love during his election campaign and then, when president, claimed he knew nothing about. Trump got away with it due to the Yankist inherent attention span of a gnat.

It's all political.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 9:52am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:39am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:09am: What a weird coincidence that this happens a day before the debate between Biden and Trump? Yes. It gives Biden an avenue to raise Trump's stance on Wikileaks which he claimed to love during his election campaign and then, when president, claimed he knew nothing about. Trump got away with it due to the Yankist inherent attention span of a gnat. It's all political.

Of course.

The US obsession with Assange has become an own goal.

Now the world questions the worth of the 1st Amendment. Does the US stand by press freedom or is it just Yankist propaganda?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 9:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:52am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:39am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:09am: What a weird coincidence that this happens a day before the debate between Biden and Trump? Yes. It gives Biden an avenue to raise Trump's stance on Wikileaks which he claimed to love during his election campaign and then, when president, claimed he knew nothing about. Trump got away with it due to the Yankist inherent attention span of a gnat. It's all political. Of course. The US obsession with Assange has become an own goal. Now the world questions the worth of the 1st Amendment. Does the US stand by press freedom or is it just Yankist propaganda?

It's a sad day for whistleblowers all around the world.

Australia also prosecutes whistleblowers.  ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 10:04am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:57am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:52am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:39am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:09am: What a weird coincidence that this happens a day before the debate between Biden and Trump? Yes. It gives Biden an avenue to raise Trump's stance on Wikileaks which he claimed to love during his election campaign and then, when president, claimed he knew nothing about. Trump got away with it due to the Yankist inherent attention span of a gnat. It's all political. Of course. The US obsession with Assange has become an own goal. Now the world questions the worth of the 1st Amendment. Does the US stand by press freedom or is it just Yankist propaganda? It's a sad day for whistleblowers all around the world. Australia also prosecutes whistleblowers.  ::)

It's actually a great day for whistleblowers.

The Yankist commitment to free speech via the 1st Amendment has been questioned on the world stage - even staunch US allies have stood against the US, and for Assange, over this, even if they have huge problems with what he did.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 10:04am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:57am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:52am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:39am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:09am: What a weird coincidence that this happens a day before the debate between Biden and Trump? Yes. It gives Biden an avenue to raise Trump's stance on Wikileaks which he claimed to love during his election campaign and then, when president, claimed he knew nothing about. Trump got away with it due to the Yankist inherent attention span of a gnat. It's all political. Of course. The US obsession with Assange has become an own goal. Now the world questions the worth of the 1st Amendment. Does the US stand by press freedom or is it just Yankist propaganda? It's a sad day for whistleblowers all around the world. Australia also prosecutes whistleblowers.  ::)

that mcbride poof wasnt really a whistleblower he was trying to go after people who were

also look at him

https://the-riotact.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/IMG_5489-scaled-e1700095179619-1200x852.jpg

major poofter

he should be prosecuted for that alone

JC Denton wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 10:14am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 10:04am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:57am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:52am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:39am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:09am: What a weird coincidence that this happens a day before the debate between Biden and Trump? Yes. It gives Biden an avenue to raise Trump's stance on Wikileaks which he claimed to love during his election campaign and then, when president, claimed he knew nothing about. Trump got away with it due to the Yankist inherent attention span of a gnat. It's all political. Of course. The US obsession with Assange has become an own goal. Now the world questions the worth of the 1st Amendment. Does the US stand by press freedom or is it just Yankist propaganda? It's a sad day for whistleblowers all around the world. Australia also prosecutes whistleblowers.  ::) that mcbride poof wasnt really a whistleblower he was trying to go after people who were also look at him https://the-riotact.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/IMG_5489-scaled-e1700095179619-1200x852.jpg major poofter he should be prosecuted for that alone

poofter?

Not that .....      :-[

I would not want to be on board VJT199 for the next several hours.  I might relax if I was on it in about three hours.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-69145409

Summary

    Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has walked free from a US court after pleading guilty in a deal to end a years-long legal battle
    He faces no further prison time and is due to fly home to Australia, following the hearing held in the Northern Mariana Islands, a US territory
    Assange was pursued by US prosecutors for leaking a vast amount of secret military information, and had faced a long sentence in a high security prison
    Last week, he signed a deal with the US that would see him plead guilty to one espionage charge instead of the 18 he was originally facing
    He left the UK on Monday after spending five years in prison there fighting extradition to the US. Before that he spent seven years in the Ecuadorean embassy
    His wife, Stella Assange, told the BBC she was "elated" about his release

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 2:11pm:

I would not want to be on board VJT199 for the next several hours.  I might relax if I was on it in about three hours.

paranoid much

Who wants to bet he does the ground kissing thing when he puts his foot on Ngunnawal Land tonight?

He will go the full Messiah, a Second Coming, I'm sure.

Dunno if that includes kissing the ground.  That might be way too below his lofty God-like.

Will he say anything, or will he keep his mouth shut until he gets to discharge the TV and other Media contracts.

You can bet those contracts already exist.

None of this happened over-night and will have been very carefully planned/scripted.

We've already had a dose of the 'innocent' Assange from his two Lawyers outside the Court House...who paid for them being there......"He has only pleaded guilty to what he has done...received stuff from Manning and published it as a good journalist does.  He would never have pleaded guilty to anything he had not done."

A question.....(one of a zillion I'd like to ask the prick at a public venue) ..... why did he not offer to make that plea years ago?  Maybe he did, but I'll bet not.

This is gonna piss me off mightily.  We are going to see, "I fart perfume and I poo ice-cream for weeks."  The haughty, sanctimonious, holier than thou, "I am a persecuted Jesus," pompously self righteous, "I am a martyr for free speech," narcissist will be at full bloom.  The lofted head, the slow loping walk, the slow speech....the God pretence ....................................... agh!

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 3:26pm:

The haughty, sanctimonious, holier than thou,narcissist will be at full bloom.  The lofted head, the slow loping walk, the slow speech....the God pretence ....................................... agh!

That describes every senior politician, billionaire, megacompany CEO, social media 'star'...

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 3:26pm:

Who wants to bet he does the ground kissing thing when he puts his foot on Ngunnawal Land tonight? He will go the full Messiah, a Second Coming, I'm sure. Dunno if that includes kissing the ground.  That might be way too below his lofty God-like. Will he say anything, or will he keep his mouth shut until he gets to discharge the TV and other Media contracts. You can bet those contracts already exist. None of this happened over-night and will have been very carefully planned/scripted. We've already had a dose of the 'innocent' Assange from his two Lawyers outside the Court House...who paid for them being there......"He has only pleaded guilty to what he has done...received stuff from Manning and published it as a good journalist does.  He would never have pleaded guilty to anything he had not done." A question.....(one of a zillion I'd like to ask the prick at a public venue) ..... why did he not offer to make that plea years ago?  Maybe he did, but I'll bet not. This is gonna piss me off mightily.  We are going to see, "I fart perfume and I poo ice-cream for weeks."  The haughty, sanctimonious, holier than thou, "I am a persecuted Jesus," pompously self righteous, "I am a martyr for free speech," narcissist will be at full bloom.  The lofted head, the slow loping walk, the slow speech....the God pretence ....................................... agh!

So, you're not a fan of Mr. Assange?  :-/

What gave it away??????

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 4:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 3:26pm: The haughty, sanctimonious, holier than thou,narcissist will be at full bloom.  The lofted head, the slow loping walk, the slow speech....the God pretence ....................................... agh! That describes every senior politician, billionaire, megacompany CEO, social media 'star'...

....and Assange.

Aussie and Assange.
Who's a silly sausage?

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 3:26pm:

Who wants to bet he does the ground kissing thing when he puts his foot on Ngunnawal Land tonight? He will go the full Messiah, a Second Coming, I'm sure. Dunno if that includes kissing the ground.  That might be way too below his lofty God-like. Will he say anything, or will he keep his mouth shut until he gets to discharge the TV and other Media contracts. You can bet those contracts already exist. None of this happened over-night and will have been very carefully planned/scripted. We've already had a dose of the 'innocent' Assange from his two Lawyers outside the Court House...who paid for them being there......"He has only pleaded guilty to what he has done...received stuff from Manning and published it as a good journalist does.  He would never have pleaded guilty to anything he had not done." A question.....(one of a zillion I'd like to ask the prick at a public venue) ..... why did he not offer to make that plea years ago?  Maybe he did, but I'll bet not. This is gonna piss me off mightily.  We are going to see, "I fart perfume and I poo ice-cream for weeks."  The haughty, sanctimonious, holier than thou, "I am a persecuted Jesus," pompously self righteous, "I am a martyr for free speech," narcissist will be at full bloom.  The lofted head, the slow loping walk, the slow speech....the God pretence ....................................... agh!

What I told you that we are in the End Times and Julian is the Messiah?

What does Aussie Cossack have to say?
Alex Jones live:

https://madmaxworld.tv/watch?id=667b04d340522cbc0dcafc8e


He must be a Russian spy but
some of the things he says are true.
He forgot to mention:
how many people in Afghanistan had to be immediately rescued
by the US military after their names were published by Wikileaks?
They were people such as translators and spies working for the Yanks
who would have been murdered by the Taliban.

No End Times.

Well, unless Uncle Sam has SAMs around Mackay, NQ, those on board that plane will not be shot out of the sky.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 5:08pm:

No End Times.

The End Times are here:

Caged Journalists -   Julian was locked in tiny cage for over 5 years for telling the truth.

War in Israel. - what more proof after Gaza do we need?

plague - Covid-19 has caused a world wide catastrophe for over 3 years.
Now Monkeypox spread by homos as well as AIDS.

pestilence - locusts in Africa , mice plagues in Australia - the worst ever.
and even the bees are destroyed by Varroa mite with 1000s of hives being destroyed which will cause famine.

Pedophiles everywhere - even Prime Ministers and Presidents.

demons - many people are possessed.

floods - floods of Biblical proportions in Australia- worst in history.

famine - 1 billion people starving to death already -


earthquakes - Samoa - one of the largest ever eruptions,
                        - huge earthquake in Afghanistan.

war - Ukraine, Syria, Iran, Israel, Yemen - Taiwan soon.

homos everywhere - you only need to look and you see them.
They're on TV all the time - they have gay pride marches in the streets.

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 5:23pm:

Well, unless Uncle Sam has SAMs around Mackay, NQ, those on board that plane will not be shot out of the sky.

This is not Russia.
We're the good guys.

No End Times, idiot!

You have tried several times to show End Times are here, failed each time and now.

You are not a christian so why pretend to believe in a bit of scripture clearly written by someone on drugs.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 6:11pm:

No End Times, idiot! You have tried several times to show End Times are here, failed each time and now. You are not a christian so why pretend to believe in a bit of scripture clearly written by someone on drugs.

one such as I am
exposes the darkness without permission
or approval yes this work is not for the faint
hearted beloved ones ... and this is why and
from the energy in which I emanate in whom I am
as a humble servant in the divine
and sacred LIGHT as we continue
to monitor all thoughts word
and deed ,and so it is

namaste

Have to admit, I was unaware he had two sprogs.  Now I am, and it seems he pumped them in while he was in that Ecuadorian Embassy.

Mateys, if ever I get in the poo, I am heading for the nearest one of those!

Can you imagine the scene?  There is Assange plastering the walls of some room in the Embassy with his faeces, she romps into the room, says, "Nice ambiance," and humpty pumpty.

FMD.

Justice at work, ey?

Bobby
That's not English

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 2:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:22pm: Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time. Given he has now admitted to espionage, let's see if he's now considered a terrorist by the Australian government.

He was forced to admit espionage, to assuage the guilt of those exposed  for conducting US war crimes, and to have any chance of ever returning home.   

chimera wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 6:17pm:

Bobby That's not English

It's master light speak - it's a new language.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 6:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:28pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:22pm: Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time. Given he has now admitted to espionage, let's see if he's now considered a terrorist by the Australian government. He was forced to admit espionage, to assuage the guilt of those exposed  for conducting US war crimes, and to have any chance of ever returning home.

"Forced," my arse.  His Lawyers stood outside that Court House proclaiming that Assange would never admit to anything he did not do.

Why is he landing in Canberra?  Do you think it might be so that political mileage can be gained with/by greeters?

Does any Member of his Family reside there?  I think not.

Or, is the point that all the pollies are Canberra stuck because Parliament is sitting?

Will the prick be paraded on the floor of the House tomorrow?

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 6:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:28pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:22pm: Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time. Given he has now admitted to espionage, let's see if he's now considered a terrorist by the Australian government. He was forced to admit espionage, to assuage the guilt of those exposed  for conducting US war crimes, and to have any chance of ever returning home.

He freely admitted to what he did - receiving and publishing classified US military information.

He admitted that in doing so he violated the US Espionage Act.

His argument has always been that his right to free speech under the US Constitution's 1st Amendment protects him from prosecution under the Espionage Act, as it would for US citizens.

The US DoJ asserts that the 1st Amendment does not apply to non-US citizens - this is the core of the own goal that the US has kicked and will likely be the catalyst for a long debate about press freedom and the Constitution in the US.

Are all men (read: persons) created equal, or just US citizens?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 7:11pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:43pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:28pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:22pm: Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time. Given he has now admitted to espionage, let's see if he's now considered a terrorist by the Australian government. He was forced to admit espionage, to assuage the guilt of those exposed  for conducting US war crimes, and to have any chance of ever returning home.    He freely admitted to what he did - receiving and publishing classified US military information. He admitted that in doing so he violated the US Espionage Act. His argument has always been that his right to free speech under the US Constitution's 1st Amendment protects him from prosecution under the Espionage Act, as it would for US citizens. The US DoJ asserts that the 1st Amendment does not apply to non-US citizens - this is the core of the own goal that the US has kicked and will likely be the catalyst for a long debate about press freedom and the Constitution in the US. Are all men (read: persons) created equal, or just US citizens?

Ha! But you forget (likely did not know) that the US assured the UK High Court that Assange would be afforded a 1st Amendment defence just as much as it applied to a US Citizen.

Further....the PM of the Solomon Island was lauded in the House today and both Leaders kissed his toes, but neither would be with him in Melbourne tonight for SOO, when you would expect BOTH to be at such an event.

Am I right?

Albanese and Dutton will both be there to greet Assange at Canberra Airport...in less than 15 minutes?

Assange committed no crime.

Assange is not a US citizen.

No crime was committed in the USA.

The USA has no jurisdiction over Assange other than that which the UK and Sweden were coerced to impose on Assange.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 7:20pm:

Assange committed no crime. Assange is not a US citizen. No crime was committed in the USA. The USA has no jurisdiction over Assange other than that which the UK and Sweden were coerced to impose on Assange.

What a cockhead he is then, ey?  Pleaded guilty to a US crime.  Oh dear......

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 7:11pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:43pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:28pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:22pm: Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time. Given he has now admitted to espionage, let's see if he's now considered a terrorist by the Australian government. He was forced to admit espionage, to assuage the guilt of those exposed  for conducting US war crimes, and to have any chance of ever returning home.    He freely admitted to what he did - receiving and publishing classified US military information. He admitted that in doing so he violated the US Espionage Act.

But he doesn't admit  he is a criminal who committed a moral wrong. The US war-mongers  he exposed who carried out war crimes are the criminals.

Interestingly,  as Andrew Wilkie correctly pointed out, the US has behaved like an authoritarian state, in this case. 


Quote:

Are all men (read: persons) created equal, or just US citizens?

Another story: the people living in tents in US cities weren't created equal with Elon Musk.

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 7:17pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 7:11pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:43pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:28pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:22pm: Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time. Given he has now admitted to espionage, let's see if he's now considered a terrorist by the Australian government. He was forced to admit espionage, to assuage the guilt of those exposed  for conducting US war crimes, and to have any chance of ever returning home.    He freely admitted to what he did - receiving and publishing classified US military information. He admitted that in doing so he violated the US Espionage Act. His argument has always been that his right to free speech under the US Constitution's 1st Amendment protects him from prosecution under the Espionage Act, as it would for US citizens. The US DoJ asserts that the 1st Amendment does not apply to non-US citizens - this is the core of the own goal that the US has kicked and will likely be the catalyst for a long debate about press freedom and the Constitution in the US. Are all men (read: persons) created equal, or just US citizens? Ha! But you forget (likely did not know) that the US assured the UK High Court that Assange would be afforded a 1st Amendment defence just as much as it applied to a US Citizen.

They sure promised a lot in an attempt for the Pentagon to get its way - have Assange on US mainland soil.

The US Feds could not have the 1st Amendment apply to Assange as the focus would be on journalism itself and its protection under the Amendment.

Anyway, had he landed in the US mainland if the UK had given him up, charges against Assange would have sprung up like mushrooms.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 7:28pm:

Interestingly,  as Andrew Wilkie correctly pointed out, the US has behaved like an authoritarian state, in this case.

Yes, it did.

And its staunchest allies stood with Assange on this.

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 7:23pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 7:20pm: Assange committed no crime. Assange is not a US citizen. No crime was committed in the USA. The USA has no jurisdiction over Assange other than that which the UK and Sweden were coerced to impose on Assange. What a cockhead he is then, ey?  Pleaded guilty to a US crime.  Oh dear......

Corruption in the Swedish and UK political and judicial systems was the cause of Assange's problems.

He could not be tried until he returned to the USA so UK politicians and judges obliged Uncle Sam with the unlawful detention of Assange on trumped up charges.

The USA does not have lawful jurisdiction over foreigners acting outside the USA so it applies unlawful jurisdiction by kidnapping and unlawful transport of victims into US territory.

That is why the USA uses secret military courts because the action of detention of foreigners and kidnapping would not be acceptable to the US judicial system.

He's landed.


https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-69145409


Assange expects warm welcome in cold Canberra

Katy Watson

Reporting from Canberra

As we wait for the plane to land, the cameras are being set up and reporters have started to gather on the grass by the military base where Julian Assange is expected to arrive.

It’s a cold winter’s night in Canberra – the media keeping warm with gloves and bobble hats, keen to witness the arrival of Assange and the end of 14-year legal battle that saw a final epic dash across the world via a small Pacific island.

Julian Assange’s wife Stella and his father John are being driven by the government to meet him.

From there, they will return to their hotel – it’s not clear whether he will speak but the prime minister and Wikileaks are both planning press conferences.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 7:36pm:

He's landed. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-69145409 Assange expects warm welcome in cold Canberra Katy Watson Reporting from Canberra As we wait for the plane to land, the cameras are being set up and reporters have started to gather on the grass by the military base where Julian Assange is expected to arrive. It’s a cold winter’s night in Canberra – the media keeping warm with gloves and bobble hats, keen to witness the arrival of Assange and the end of 14-year legal battle that saw a final epic dash across the world via a small Pacific island. Julian Assange’s wife Stella and his father John are being driven by the government to meet him. From there, they will return to their hotel – it’s not clear whether he will speak but the prime minister and Wikileaks are both planning press conferences.

He has not landed. His plane was 800m altitude off landing, but then aborted.

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

He has not landed. His plane was 800m altitude off landing, but then aborted.

Bullshit - turn to ABC 24 now  - it's live

Ironic that Fidel Castro felt safer flying to the US to speak at the UN than Assange did at the thought of landing on US mainland soil.

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 7:36pm: He's landed. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-69145409 Assange expects warm welcome in cold Canberra Katy Watson Reporting from Canberra As we wait for the plane to land, the cameras are being set up and reporters have started to gather on the grass by the military base where Julian Assange is expected to arrive. It’s a cold winter’s night in Canberra – the media keeping warm with gloves and bobble hats, keen to witness the arrival of Assange and the end of 14-year legal battle that saw a final epic dash across the world via a small Pacific island. Julian Assange’s wife Stella and his father John are being driven by the government to meet him. From there, they will return to their hotel – it’s not clear whether he will speak but the prime minister and Wikileaks are both planning press conferences. He has not landed. His plane was 800m altitude off landing, but then aborted.

He's landed and if you followed his jet on radar feed, no plane came within at least 200Ks of its flight path.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 7:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 7:41pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 7:36pm: He's landed. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-69145409 Assange expects warm welcome in cold Canberra Katy Watson Reporting from Canberra As we wait for the plane to land, the cameras are being set up and reporters have started to gather on the grass by the military base where Julian Assange is expected to arrive. It’s a cold winter’s night in Canberra – the media keeping warm with gloves and bobble hats, keen to witness the arrival of Assange and the end of 14-year legal battle that saw a final epic dash across the world via a small Pacific island. Julian Assange’s wife Stella and his father John are being driven by the government to meet him. From there, they will return to their hotel – it’s not clear whether he will speak but the prime minister and Wikileaks are both planning press conferences. He has not landed. His plane was 800m altitude off landing, but then aborted. He's landed and if you followed his jet on radar feed, no plane came within at least 200Ks of its flight path.

He has now and I have been watching that plane from the moment it took off.

I think Ch 7 have secured Media rights with him.

Good.  No kissing the ground.  No pollies.  Yet.  Still...the defiant raised fist.  Convicted felon.  Ch 7 making all sorts of wank offerings.

They MUST have secured media rights.  It is pathetic.

If I ever get bunged into a high security prison in the UK, I hope I go to the place he was.  He has a great big gut, walks without any issue, and appears to have suffered SFA.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-69145409



Assange hugs wife after leaving plane.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/26/d26be54a-1906-4e02-83ca-6248a993a70f.jpg

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 7:58pm:

Good.  No kissing the ground.  Still...the defiant raised fist.  Convicted felon.

More like Mandela than a pope, then!

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 8:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 7:58pm: Good.  No kissing the ground.  Still...the defiant raised fist.  Convicted felon. More like Mandela than a pope, then!

He's like a Messiah.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 8:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 7:58pm: Good.  No kissing the ground.  Still...the defiant raised fist.  Convicted felon. More like Mandela than a pope, then!

Yeah, right.  He'll be the next Aussie PM no doubt.

Where is his step-father, Assange.

Perhaps deceased?

(Now, bugger off.  SOO on)

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 8:07pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 8:04pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 7:58pm: Good.  No kissing the ground.  Still...the defiant raised fist.  Convicted felon. More like Mandela than a pope, then! Yeah, right.  He'll be the next Aussie PM no doubt.

God forbid!

Great interview by ABC's 7.30 Sarah Ferguson, of MAGA- darling MT Greene; Marjorie has supported Assange for years because he "exposed lies of government".

The interview went well until Sarah attempted to change the subject to Trump.... the two ladies began sparring like prize fighters...Greene was feisty and held up well.

O dear, what confused bunnies we all are.

I might head to China, hope the government knows what it is doing, and shut up about politics.....

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 8:42pm:

Great interview by ABC's 7.30 Sarah Ferguson, of MAGA- darling MT Greene; Marjorie has supported Assange for years because he "exposed lies of government". The interview went well until Sarah attempted to change the subject to Trump.... the two ladies began sparring like prize fighters...Greene was feisty and held up well. O dear, what confused bunnies we all are. I might head to China, hope the government knows what it is doing, and shut up about politics.....

If you think Ferguson had her on to talk sweet, warm and cuddly about Assange, you might like a big steel bridge I have for sale in Sydney.

Green is a sitting duck.  Easy meat, you just have to offer her the right lure, as Ferguson did, and she came right in to the Interview, thinking Ferguson was a tame Aussie pussy.  She must not have seen Ferguson rip the arse out of "The Kraken."

Did it not also cross your mind that Green was espousing, lauding, championing the role of the media (Assange) in exposing stuff, yet when it came to her being asked questions about what she had been up to in the past and present, she sought to restrict the media?

I'll be posting that Interview on the Yank Forum as soon as iView has it up.

FMD.

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 9:16pm:

I'll be posting that Interview on the Yank Forum as soon as iView has it up.

What is the Yank forum?

chimera wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 4:47pm:

US treason is (1) “levying war” against the United States; or (2) “adhering to [the] enemies [of the United States], giving them aid and comfort.” Trump gave Europe to Putin.

You know, the reason why the United States were over in Iraq was because of the bs 9/11. The Bush Administration allowed a series of terrorist attacks to take place. This prompted the Americans to support a war in Iraq. Assange would not have had footage of American soldiers murdering Iraqis if the Americans were not there in the first place.

chimera wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 5:12pm:

'wife here in Australia.' ahhh nothing's  a secret anymore

The Wikileaks' founder's wife's details are found on Wikipedia. Stella is her name.

Ironic that, while Yankists rant about freedom as if they invented the idea, now, through the Assange fiasco, their governance system is lumbered with having jeopardised press freedom and smearing the presumed sanctity and protections of their Constitution's 1st Amendment.

In this, Yankists acted no differently than China's CCP with its security laws.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 10:16pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:16pm: I'll be posting that Interview on the Yank Forum as soon as iView has it up. What is the Yank forum?

A US Forum I hang out at.

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 6:53pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:43pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:28pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:22pm: Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time. Given he has now admitted to espionage, let's see if he's now considered a terrorist by the Australian government. He was forced to admit espionage, to assuage the guilt of those exposed  for conducting US war crimes, and to have any chance of ever returning home.    Why is he landing in Canberra?

I guess because it's our capital city, and half a dozen politicians - from Canberra - helped to get him home.

Would be weird if he landed in Adelaide   :-/

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 10:02am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:53pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:43pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:28pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:22pm: Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time. Given he has now admitted to espionage, let's see if he's now considered a terrorist by the Australian government. He was forced to admit espionage, to assuage the guilt of those exposed  for conducting US war crimes, and to have any chance of ever returning home.    Why is he landing in Canberra?  I guess because it's our capital city, and half a dozen politicians - from Canberra - helped to get him home. Would be weird if he landed in Adelaide   :-/

dubbo

Why would Albanese ring Assange, and more stupidly, make it public that he did?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 7:39am:

Ironic that, while Yankists rant about freedom as if they invented the idea, now, through the Assange fiasco, their governance system is lumbered with having jeopardised press freedom and smearing the presumed sanctity and protections of their Constitution's 1st Amendment. In this, Yankists acted no differently than China's CCP with its security laws.

Its the same everywhere.   In Australia, we jailed David McBride for exposing war crimes in Afghanistan.  And Witness K was convicted for exposing spying against the East Timor, in order to gain financial advantage for private companies like Woodside. 

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 8:21am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 10:16pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:16pm: I'll be posting that Interview on the Yank Forum as soon as iView has it up. What is the Yank forum? A US Forum I hang out at.

Can you post the link? Either here or in a private message to me.

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 12:01pm:

Why would Albanese ring Assange, and more stupidly, make it public that he did?

For the huge political capital it would earn him.

Why else?

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 12:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 7:39am: Ironic that, while Yankists rant about freedom as if they invented the idea, now, through the Assange fiasco, their governance system is lumbered with having jeopardised press freedom and smearing the presumed sanctity and protections of their Constitution's 1st Amendment. In this, Yankists acted no differently than China's CCP with its security laws. Its the same everywhere.   In Australia, we jailed David McBride for exposing war crimes in Afghanistan.  And Witness K was convicted for exposing spying against the East Timor, in order to gain financial advantage for private companies like Woodside.

There's a difference between leakers and publishers.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 12:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 12:01pm: Why would Albanese ring Assange, and more stupidly, make it public that he did? For the huge political capital it would earn him. Why else?

I think he has mis-read the room.

The former deputy PM cautiously welcomed developments that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange will plead guilty to a felony charge in a deal with the US justice department that will allow him to walk free. Joyce was part of the delegation to lobby US law makers over Julian Assange.

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 1:10pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 12:42pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 12:01pm: Why would Albanese ring Assange, and more stupidly, make it public that he did? For the huge political capital it would earn him. Why else? I think he has mis-read the room.

"A poll from earlier this month indicated a large majority of Australians - 71% - said the US and UK should be pressured to close Assange's case."

And:

Majority support for Assange’s release and return home

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 1:10pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 12:42pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 12:01pm: Why would Albanese ring Assange, and more stupidly, make it public that he did? For the huge political capital it would earn him. Why else? I think he has mis-read the room.

I doubt that.

The Assange fiasco became a David and Goliath saga years ago...

And everyone cheers a David.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 1:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 1:10pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 12:42pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 12:01pm: Why would Albanese ring Assange, and more stupidly, make it public that he did? For the huge political capital it would earn him. Why else? I think he has mis-read the room. "A poll from earlier this month indicated a large majority of Australians - 71% - said the US and UK should be pressured to close Assange's case." And: Majority support for Assange’s release and return home

What did that Poll say about how many ALP voters might not vote ALP because of this obvious political interference in the justice system of another Country?  Me included.

The ALP might bleed just enough former support from people like me to lose the next election.

Separation of Powers, my arse.

The US government chose to interfere with Mr A from Australia in UK.

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 1:25pm:

how many ALP voters might not vote ALP because of this obvious political interference in the justice system of another Country?

None.

No tears for Goliath.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG70LP4D5aA

The Australian media released footage of the Australian soldier killing Afghan insurgent. The Australian media were not called into question as committing espionage. Imagine the Afghanistan Taliban getting hold of the footage of this murder. It would be actual propaganda for the Taliban to use against Western forces.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 1:43pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 1:25pm: how many ALP voters might not vote ALP because of this obvious political interference in the justice system of another Country?  None. No tears for Goliath.

Notwithstanding, the US DoJ independently concluded that a political solution was the only way out once DoJ agents became convinced that the Australian political landscape had changed dramatically in favour of Assange's release.

As the US pivots towards the Asia-Pacific, it seems maintaining goodwill with Australia and Australians beat out the DoJ's (and the Pentagon's) obsession with Assange.

For their part, successive Whitehouse administrations wanted this ended years ago.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 2:02pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 1:43pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 1:25pm: how many ALP voters might not vote ALP because of this obvious political interference in the justice system of another Country?  None. No tears for Goliath. Notwithstanding, the US DoJ independently concluded that a political solution was the only way out once DoJ agents became convinced that the Australian political landscape had changed dramatically in favour of Assange's release. As the US pivots towards the Asia-Pacific, it seems maintaining goodwill with Australia and Australians beat out the DoJ's (and the Pentagon's) obsession with Assange. For their part, successive Whitehouse administrations wanted this ended years ago.

And is that the way they make their decisions....on political grounds?

A politician is not a judge.

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 2:17pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 1:43pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 1:25pm: how many ALP voters might not vote ALP because of this obvious political interference in the justice system of another Country?  None. No tears for Goliath. Notwithstanding, the US DoJ independently concluded that a political solution was the only way out once DoJ agents became convinced that the Australian political landscape had changed dramatically in favour of Assange's release. As the US pivots towards the Asia-Pacific, it seems maintaining goodwill with Australia and Australians beat out the DoJ's (and the Pentagon's) obsession with Assange. For their part, successive Whitehouse administrations wanted this ended years ago. And is that the way they make their decisions....on political grounds?

Depends on the stakes, I guess.

Why else do you think Bradley/Chelsea Manning's sentence was commuted?

chimera wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 2:23pm:

A politician is not a judge.

Oh really??!!

Judging state/national mood and political will is 90% of a politician's job.

Assange had no trial until yesterday.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/julian-assange-freed-live-updates-wikileaks-founder-returns-to-australia-20240627-p5jp40.html


A single bitcoin donation worth almost $740,000 has been made to Julian Assange’s cause,
covering the cost of his chartered jet.

Last night on TV. ABC 24 -

a spokesperson for him said that all names were redacted from the
100s of 1000s of documents released so no one's life was put in jeopardy.
The US Govt said the opposite.
Who do you believe?

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 2:49pm:

Last night on TV. ABC 24 - a spokesperson for him said that all names were redacted from the 100s of 1000s of documents released so no one's life was put in jeopardy. The US Govt said the opposite. Who do you believe?

The US Federal judge in Saipan accepted that no one was harmed in the making of this US fiasco.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 2:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:49pm: Last night on TV. ABC 24 - a spokesperson for him said that all names were redacted from the 100s of 1000s of documents released so no one's life was put in jeopardy. The US Govt said the opposite. Who do you believe? The US Federal judge in Saipan accepted that no one was harmed in the making of this US fiasco.

But I heard once that US soldiers had to go in and rescue
people in Afghanistan before they were murdered by the Taliban.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 2:55pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:53pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:49pm: Last night on TV. ABC 24 - a spokesperson for him said that all names were redacted from the 100s of 1000s of documents released so no one's life was put in jeopardy. The US Govt said the opposite. Who do you believe? The US Federal judge in Saipan accepted that no one was harmed in the making of this US fiasco. But I heard once that US soldiers had to go in and rescue people in Afghanistan before they were murdered by the Taliban.

Was there any evidence published, or was it just Pentagon propaganda?

Pompeo himself, mused aloud that it would be in US national interests for US agents to murder Assange.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 2:49pm:

Last night on TV. ABC 24 - a spokesperson for him said that all names were redacted from the 100s of 1000s of documents released so no one's life was put in jeopardy. The US Govt said the opposite. Who do you believe?

who cares

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 2:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:55pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:53pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:49pm: Last night on TV. ABC 24 - a spokesperson for him said that all names were redacted from the 100s of 1000s of documents released so no one's life was put in jeopardy. The US Govt said the opposite. Who do you believe? The US Federal judge in Saipan accepted that no one was harmed in the making of this US fiasco. But I heard once that US soldiers had to go in and rescue people in Afghanistan before they were murdered by the Taliban. Was there any evidence published, or was it just Pentagon propaganda? Pompeo himself, mused aloud that it would be in US national interests for US agents to murder Assange.

I dunno - I heard it on TV one night years ago.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 2:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:55pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:53pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:49pm: Last night on TV. ABC 24 - a spokesperson for him said that all names were redacted from the 100s of 1000s of documents released so no one's life was put in jeopardy. The US Govt said the opposite. Who do you believe? The US Federal judge in Saipan accepted that no one was harmed in the making of this US fiasco. But I heard once that US soldiers had to go in and rescue people in Afghanistan before they were murdered by the Taliban. Was there any evidence published, or was it just Pentagon propaganda? Pompeo himself, mused aloud that it would be in US national interests for US agents to murder Assange.

QCs are not in the habit of lying to the UK's High Court.

Link.

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 3:27pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:59pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:55pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:53pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:49pm: Last night on TV. ABC 24 - a spokesperson for him said that all names were redacted from the 100s of 1000s of documents released so no one's life was put in jeopardy. The US Govt said the opposite. Who do you believe? The US Federal judge in Saipan accepted that no one was harmed in the making of this US fiasco. But I heard once that US soldiers had to go in and rescue people in Afghanistan before they were murdered by the Taliban. Was there any evidence published, or was it just Pentagon propaganda? Pompeo himself, mused aloud that it would be in US national interests for US agents to murder Assange. QCs are not in the habit of lying to the UK's High Court. Link.

That article is ambiguous.


Quote:

"The US is aware of sources, whose redacted names and other identifying information was contained in classified documents published by Wikileaks, who subsequently disappeared, although the US can't prove at this point that their disappearance was the result of being outed by Wikileaks."

Were the names redacted by Assange or not?

Ummm would’t they be KCs now? Betty is gone after all and Chuck is on the throne, not?

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 3:27pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:59pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:55pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:53pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:49pm: Last night on TV. ABC 24 - a spokesperson for him said that all names were redacted from the 100s of 1000s of documents released so no one's life was put in jeopardy. The US Govt said the opposite. Who do you believe? The US Federal judge in Saipan accepted that no one was harmed in the making of this US fiasco. But I heard once that US soldiers had to go in and rescue people in Afghanistan before they were murdered by the Taliban. Was there any evidence published, or was it just Pentagon propaganda? Pompeo himself, mused aloud that it would be in US national interests for US agents to murder Assange. QCs are not in the habit of lying to the UK's High Court. Link.

Could they get into the habit of parroting "in good faith" what their masters demand of them, what the political situation demands or what serves in their opinion the 'greater good of the nation'?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 3:32pm:

Ummm would’t they be KCs now? Betty is gone after all and Chuck is on the throne, not?

He was QC at the time.   Many Barristers who were QCs kept the tag after she died.  Others went on to the KC thing.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 2:49pm:

Last night on TV. ABC 24 - a spokesperson for him said that all names were redacted from the 100s of 1000s of documents released so no one's life was put in jeopardy. The US Govt said the opposite. Who do you believe?

That's bullshit
I recall at the time he was interviewed about it and he said there was so much information going through wiki that he simply was unable to redact or even check it for names. It was that interview that first turned me against his cause. He's just a glory hound looking to get his name up in lights.

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 3:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:49pm: Last night on TV. ABC 24 - a spokesperson for him said that all names were redacted from the 100s of 1000s of documents released so no one's life was put in jeopardy. The US Govt said the opposite. Who do you believe? That's bullshit I recall at the time he was interviewed about it and he said there was so much information going through wiki that he simply was unable to redact or even check it for names. It was that interview that first turned me against his cause. He's just a glory hound looking to get his name up in lights.

It sounds like Assange's spokesperson is a liar.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 3:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 3:27pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:59pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:55pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:53pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:49pm: Last night on TV. ABC 24 - a spokesperson for him said that all names were redacted from the 100s of 1000s of documents released so no one's life was put in jeopardy. The US Govt said the opposite. Who do you believe? The US Federal judge in Saipan accepted that no one was harmed in the making of this US fiasco. But I heard once that US soldiers had to go in and rescue people in Afghanistan before they were murdered by the Taliban. Was there any evidence published, or was it just Pentagon propaganda? Pompeo himself, mused aloud that it would be in US national interests for US agents to murder Assange. QCs are not in the habit of lying to the UK's High Court. Link. Could they get into the habit of parroting "in good faith" what their masters demand of them, what the political situation demands or what serves in their opinion the 'greater good of the nation'?

While Lawyers do act in accordance with the instructions of their client, they will not parrot patent rubbish.  On this sort of issue, I'd expect that QC would have made the US establish some basis for the assertion, and he would not have told the High Court anything he had misgivings about being false.  It's a fine line.  We don't expect proof positive but if someone told me that today was Monday and they wanted me to tell a Court that, I'd at least check the calendar.

I've found the smoking gun:


https://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/sep/02/wikileaks-publishes-cache-unredacted-cables

WikiLeaks publishes full cache of unredacted cables

This article is more than 12 years old
Former media partners condemn WikiLeaks' decision
to make public documents identifying activists and whistleblowers.

WikiLeaks has published its full archive of 251,000 secret US diplomatic cables, without redactions, potentially exposing thousands of individuals named in the documents to detention, harm or putting their lives in danger.

The move has been strongly condemned by the five previous media partners – the Guardian, New York Times, El Pais, Der Spiegel and Le Monde – who have worked with WikiLeaks publishing carefully selected and redacted documents.

"We deplore the decision of WikiLeaks to publish the unredacted state department cables, which may put sources at risk," the organisations said in a joint statement.

"Our previous dealings with WikiLeaks were on the clear basis that we would only publish cables which had been subjected to a thorough joint editing and clearance process. We will continue to defend our previous collaborative publishing endeavour. We cannot defend the needless publication of the complete data – indeed, we are united in condemning it.

"The decision to publish by Julian Assange was his, and his alone."

Diplomats, governments, human rights charities and media organisations had urged WikiLeaks's founder, Assange, not to publish the full cache of cables without careful source protection.

The newly published archive contains more than 1,000 cables identifying individual activists; several thousand labelled with a tag used by the US to mark sources it believes could be placed in danger; and more than 150 specifically mentioning whistleblowers.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 3:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 3:37pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:49pm: Last night on TV. ABC 24 - a spokesperson for him said that all names were redacted from the 100s of 1000s of documents released so no one's life was put in jeopardy. The US Govt said the opposite. Who do you believe? That's bullshit I recall at the time he was interviewed about it and he said there was so much information going through wiki that he simply was unable to redact or even check it for names. It was that interview that first turned me against his cause. He's just a glory hound looking to get his name up in lights. It sounds like Assange's spokesperson is a liar.

Why?

What evidence was published that any names were released to the public?

It's been a gotcha used by the Pentagon for years to say that they can't release information corroborating their 'in harm's way' assertion - not even to the DoJ, eh!! The DoJ conceded to various courts that no one was killed or harmed by the leaks and no evidence of moving people out of harm's way due to the leaks has ever been provided to them by the Pentagon or the CIA.

All we have is the word of the Pentagon and the CIA whose seniors were apparently considering murdering Assange.

Ooops...see the Post by Bobby, just above yours.

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 3:55pm:

Ooops...see the Post by Bobby, just above yours.

he did put 1000s of people in jeopardy.

I watched ABC 24 news many months ago.

Someone said that US soldiers had to go on rescue missions in Afghanistan
to prevent people named by Assange from being murdered by the Taliban.
They had to act quickly and it was only that swift action that saved their lives.

'In its latest issue published today, New Idea said it was sorry it was not "alert to the possible ramifications" of running the story about Harry's secret tour of duty, which appeared in the magazine and on its website in January'
https://www.smh.com.au/national/new-idea-says-sorry-for-running-harry-story-20080310-gds4jo.html

sorry about all that, said Assange.

While Washington has often called Assange's actions reckless and claimed they put its agents at risk, the judge noted that the United States could not identify any personal victim from them.

"There's another significant fact - the government has indicated there is no personal victim here. That tells me the dissemination of this information did not result in any known physical injury," the judge said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-state-department-says-julian-assanges-actions-put-people-risk-2024-06-26/

The so-called rescue missions were 100% successful, eh! And Vietnam was actually a great US victory, no doubt!

Prisoners of the Australian army didn't get off so well. There is great concern for their well-being.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 5:26pm:

While Washington has often called Assange's actions reckless and claimed they put its agents at risk, the judge noted that the United States could not identify any personal victim from them. "There's another significant fact - the government has indicated there is no personal victim here. That tells me the dissemination of this information did not result in any known physical injury," the judge said. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-state-department-says-julian-assanges-actions-put-people-risk-2024-06-26/ The so-called rescue missions were 100% successful, eh! And Vietnam was actually a great US victory, no doubt!

And on the Vietnam theme, how many Afghani allies did the US abandon to their fate during and after its Saigon-style exit from Afghanistan?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 5:26pm:

While Washington has often called Assange's actions reckless and claimed they put its agents at risk, the judge noted that the United States could not identify any personal victim from them. "There's another significant fact - the government has indicated there is no personal victim here. That tells me the dissemination of this information did not result in any known physical injury," the judge said. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-state-department-says-julian-assanges-actions-put-people-risk-2024-06-26/ The so-called rescue missions were 100% successful, eh! And Vietnam was actually a great US victory, no doubt!

That the state department was able to pull them out REGARDLESS of Assange, is pure luck on his part. He was criminally reckless and had no qualms about endangering anyone else just to feed his own ego

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 5:50pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:26pm: While Washington has often called Assange's actions reckless and claimed they put its agents at risk, the judge noted that the United States could not identify any personal victim from them. "There's another significant fact - the government has indicated there is no personal victim here. That tells me the dissemination of this information did not result in any known physical injury," the judge said. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-state-department-says-julian-assanges-actions-put-people-risk-2024-06-26/ The so-called rescue missions were 100% successful, eh! And Vietnam was actually a great US victory, no doubt! That the state department was able to pull them out REGARDLESS of Assange, is pure luck on his part. He was criminally reckless and had no qualms about endangering anyone else just to feed his own ego

That the state department said it pulled them out...

As Robert Gates said of Wikileaks over a decade ago, 'None of what WikiLeaks published would be a surprise to any nation, nor would it be a deterrent from turning to the US. They turn to the US, and will continue to turn to the US, not because they trust us, but because they need us'.

Assange didn't recklessly expose the unbelievable, he revealed the obvious.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 5:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:50pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:26pm: While Washington has often called Assange's actions reckless and claimed they put its agents at risk, the judge noted that the United States could not identify any personal victim from them. "There's another significant fact - the government has indicated there is no personal victim here. That tells me the dissemination of this information did not result in any known physical injury," the judge said. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-state-department-says-julian-assanges-actions-put-people-risk-2024-06-26/ The so-called rescue missions were 100% successful, eh! And Vietnam was actually a great US victory, no doubt! That the state department was able to pull them out REGARDLESS of Assange, is pure luck on his part. He was criminally reckless and had no qualms about endangering anyone else just to feed his own ego That the state department said it pulled them out...

If they hadn't? Would Assange be willing to stand trial for manslaughter?

yes, he'd be acquitted.

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 8:03pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:54pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:50pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:26pm: While Washington has often called Assange's actions reckless and claimed they put its agents at risk, the judge noted that the United States could not identify any personal victim from them. "There's another significant fact - the government has indicated there is no personal victim here. That tells me the dissemination of this information did not result in any known physical injury," the judge said. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-state-department-says-julian-assanges-actions-put-people-risk-2024-06-26/ The so-called rescue missions were 100% successful, eh! And Vietnam was actually a great US victory, no doubt! That the state department was able to pull them out REGARDLESS of Assange, is pure luck on his part. He was criminally reckless and had no qualms about endangering anyone else just to feed his own ego That the state department said it pulled them out... If they hadn't? Would Assange be willing to stand trial for manslaughter?

Did they do it, save their assets?

They failed many Iraqi, Afghani and (historically) Vietnamese assets... Why would anyone believe that they saved, not only some assets, but 100% of them, because y'know, WikiLeaks?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 8:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 8:03pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:54pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:50pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:26pm: While Washington has often called Assange's actions reckless and claimed they put its agents at risk, the judge noted that the United States could not identify any personal victim from them. "There's another significant fact - the government has indicated there is no personal victim here. That tells me the dissemination of this information did not result in any known physical injury," the judge said. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-state-department-says-julian-assanges-actions-put-people-risk-2024-06-26/ The so-called rescue missions were 100% successful, eh! And Vietnam was actually a great US victory, no doubt! That the state department was able to pull them out REGARDLESS of Assange, is pure luck on his part. He was criminally reckless and had no qualms about endangering anyone else just to feed his own ego That the state department said it pulled them out... If they hadn't? Would Assange be willing to stand trial for manslaughter? Did they do it, save their assets? They failed many Iraqi, Afghani and (historically) Vietnamese assets... Why would anyone believe that they saved, not only some assets, but 100% of them, because y'know, WikiLeaks?

I doubt they saved them all

chimera wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 8:11pm:

yes, he'd be acquitted.

Bullshit.  I reckon the coward would spend another 10yr in asylum rather than face manslaughter charges

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 8:21pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 8:17pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 8:03pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:54pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:50pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:26pm: While Washington has often called Assange's actions reckless and claimed they put its agents at risk, the judge noted that the United States could not identify any personal victim from them. "There's another significant fact - the government has indicated there is no personal victim here. That tells me the dissemination of this information did not result in any known physical injury," the judge said. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-state-department-says-julian-assanges-actions-put-people-risk-2024-06-26/ The so-called rescue missions were 100% successful, eh! And Vietnam was actually a great US victory, no doubt! That the state department was able to pull them out REGARDLESS of Assange, is pure luck on his part. He was criminally reckless and had no qualms about endangering anyone else just to feed his own ego That the state department said it pulled them out... If they hadn't? Would Assange be willing to stand trial for manslaughter? Did they do it, save their assets? They failed many Iraqi, Afghani and (historically) Vietnamese assets... Why would anyone believe that they saved, not only some assets, but 100% of them, because y'know, WikiLeaks? I doubt they saved them all

They claim they did, or at least they must have, given the US State Department could not provide the details to various courts of a single asset who was killed or harmed.

Surely they weren't lying about something??!!

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 8:23pm:

Bullshit.  I reckon the coward would spend another 10yr in asylum rather than face manslaughter charges

'Voluntary manslaughter occurs when all the elements for murder are present, including an intention to kill or cause really serious harm, but the crime is reduced to manslaughter by reason of loss of control or diminished responsibility.'
He'd be acquitted.

In all likelihood, the US does not give a rat's arse about their assets overseas unless they are US citizens.

All the more reason that Australian governments should take it upon themselves to come to the rescue of Australian citizens, even at the risk of inconvenience to or in defiance of the US.

chimera wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 8:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 8:23pm: Bullshit.  I reckon the coward would spend another 10yr in asylum rather than face manslaughter charges 'Voluntary manslaughter occurs when all the elements for murder are present, including an intention to kill or cause really serious harm, but the crime is reduced to manslaughter by reason of loss of control or diminished responsibility.' He'd be acquitted.

Id say that Releasing the names of those assisting the US would in all likelihood see those named murdered.  He can't claim ignorance or that it was an accident. Besides,  it's not the point. He would never do it because he lacks a moral backbone. He spent 15yrs running from having to face lessor crimes. There is absolutely no way he'd man up about any more serious  crimes

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 11:08pm:

Id say that Releasing the names of those assisting the US would in all likelihood see those named murdered.  He can't claim ignorance or that it was an accident.

The US is ignorant of Smith's Law and didn't charge Ass with manslaughter. Afghanistan is 5,700km away from him and somebody else would do the murder (if it happened).  You need a man to be slaughtered for it to be manslaughter.
If police name a child sex-offender and he is shot, is the cop charged with manslaughter?

chimera wrote on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 4:05am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 11:08pm: Id say that Releasing the names of those assisting the US would in all likelihood see those named murdered.  He can't claim ignorance or that it was an accident. The US is ignorant of Smith's Law and didn't charge Ass with manslaughter. Afghanistan is 5,700km away from him and somebody else would do the murder (if it happened).  You need a man to be slaughtered for it to be manslaughter. If police name a child sex-offender and he is shot, is the cop charged with manslaughter?

So it's ok to get people killed as long as they are a long way away from you? Got it.

Wikileaks publication put lives at risk....?

Despite the US long track record of abandoning many of its foreign assets to their fate when it's done with them, somehow those named in Manning's leaked documents were all spared, such that the State Department could not and cannot provide the name of a single asset who was killed or injured due to Wikileaks' publications.

How is that possible?

The obvious answer is that the US State Department knew well in advance of the documents' publication what they contained, giving them ample time to ensure the safety of all US assets.

How could that have been?

Wikileaks provided the documents to the State Department well in advance of their publication.

John Smith wrote on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 6:12am:

So it's ok to get people killed as long as they are a long way away from you? Got it.

No you got nothing.  Read it again, repeat, wait 10 minutes then blink.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 8:40am:

Wikileaks publication put lives at risk....? Despite the US long track record of abandoning many of its foreign assets to their fate when it's done with them, somehow those named in Manning's leaked documents were all spared, such that the State Department could not and cannot provide the name of a single asset who was killed or injured due to Wikileaks' publications. How is that possible? The obvious answer is that the US State Department knew well in advance of the documents' publication what they contained, giving them ample time to ensure the safety of all US assets. How could that have been? Wikileaks provided the documents to the State Department well in advance of their publication.

Another pack of lies from the USA.

They have no evidence of any harm suffered so they create the lies that they protected people by making them invisible.

Watching US spokesmen in press conference performances exposes the US spox as the most evasive, devious liars ever.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 9:37am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 28th, 2024 at 8:40am: Wikileaks publication put lives at risk....? Despite the US long track record of abandoning many of its foreign assets to their fate when it's done with them, somehow those named in Manning's leaked documents were all spared, such that the State Department could not and cannot provide the name of a single asset who was killed or injured due to Wikileaks' publications. How is that possible? The obvious answer is that the US State Department knew well in advance of the documents' publication what they contained, giving them ample time to ensure the safety of all US assets. How could that have been? Wikileaks provided the documents to the State Department well in advance of their publication. Another pack of lies from the USA. They have no evidence of any harm suffered so they create the lies that they protected people by making them invisible. Watching US spokesmen in press conference performances exposes the US spox as the most evasive, devious liars ever.

I thought Uncle Sam was a good guy -
he wouldn't lie would he?

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 1:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 1:15pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 1:10pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 12:42pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 12:01pm: Why would Albanese ring Assange, and more stupidly, make it public that he did? For the huge political capital it would earn him. Why else? I think he has mis-read the room. "A poll from earlier this month indicated a large majority of Australians - 71% - said the US and UK should be pressured to close Assange's case." And: Majority support for Assange’s release and return home What did that Poll say about how many ALP voters might not vote ALP because of this obvious political interference in the justice system of another Country?  Me included. The ALP might bleed just enough former support from people like me to lose the next election. Separation of Powers, my arse.

Laura Tingle agrees with me, and publishes:

Link.

'White House National Security Communications advisor, John Kirby, who told journalists this week that "the White House was not involved in any way whatsoever in Julian Assange's case, and the decisions pursuant to that, to his sentencing and his repatriation back to [sic] Israel. That was a [Department of Justice] matter, and they're the only ones that can speak to it".

Why then did the Australan delegation only speak to Congress and not to a judge?

chimera wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 11:50am:

'White House National Security Communications advisor, John Kirby, who told journalists this week that "the White House was not involved in any way whatsoever in Julian Assange's case, and the decisions pursuant to that, to his sentencing and his repatriation back to [sic] Israel. That was a [Department of Justice] matter, and they're the only ones that can speak to it". Why then did the Australan delegation only speak to Congress and not to a judge?

They spoke to the DoJ. Why would they speak to a judge?

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 9:16pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 8:42pm: Great interview by ABC's 7.30 Sarah Ferguson, of MAGA- darling MT Greene; Marjorie has supported Assange for years because he "exposed lies of government". The interview went well until Sarah attempted to change the subject to Trump.... the two ladies began sparring like prize fighters...Greene was feisty and held up well. O dear, what confused bunnies we all are. I might head to China, hope the government knows what it is doing, and shut up about politics..... Did it not also cross your mind that Green was espousing, lauding, championing the role of the media (Assange) in exposing stuff, yet when it came to her being asked questions about what she had been up to in the past and present, she sought to restrict the media?

Of course Green is an AF/MAGA ideologue who will laud the media when it aligns with her ideology, and condemn the media (in this case, Ferguson asking about Trump)  when it doesn't.

Like I said - what confused bunnies we all are: John Smith (with whom I mostly agree on most things) hates Assange, whereas I love Assange because I hate war and the 'deep state's 'security'/secrecy apparatus; I'm definitely  NOT 'AF/MAGA', yet I like Greene's support of Assange  because we both hate the 'deep state' ...but for very, very different reasons.

Then you (Aussie) who claim  to vote ALP,  now critiicizes Albo for welcoming Asange back  - as per the Oz majority opinion including Barnaby Joyce (!).

Now you can see why China with its one-party meritocracy is looking good: the  "right" to vote in "free" democratic elections" amounts to a fraud visited upon electorates of confused, squabbling, self-interested bunnies (which we all are), with neither side capable of engendering common prosperity while the wealthy are laughing all the way to the bank.


I wonder if Assange is antiwar and pro a UNSC minus veto, to enforce rulings of an ICJ , thereby allowing for general disarmament other than permanent members of the UNSC)? 

Neanderthals like chimera of course won't have a bar of it, hence his ancient  "freedom or death"  ideology, life be damned.

Speaking to  a US judge would be interfering, but they didn't do that. It was all political:
'A cross-party delegation of Assange supporters travelled to the US to press the matter with Republican and Democratic lawmakers last year. Australian MPs signed an open letter that was published in the Washington Post.

Albanese raised the case directly with the US president, Joe
Biden, on an official visit to Washington in October 2023.'

That outreach was backed up three months later when Australia’s attorney general, Mark Dreyfus, visited Washington and raised it with his counterpart, Merrick Garland, who runs the Department of Justice.

John Smith wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 6:44pm:

They should revoke his Australian citizenship

Why would they do that when they won't even revoke temporary visas for non citizens/ illegal migrant criminals?

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 7:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 7:23pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 7:20pm: Assange committed no crime. Assange is not a US citizen. No crime was committed in the USA. The USA has no jurisdiction over Assange other than that which the UK and Sweden were coerced to impose on Assange. What a cockhead he is then, ey?  Pleaded guilty to a US crime.  Oh dear...... Corruption in the Swedish and UK political and judicial systems was the cause of Assange's problems. He could not be tried until he returned to the USA so UK politicians and judges obliged Uncle Sam with the unlawful detention of Assange on trumped up charges. The USA does not have lawful jurisdiction over foreigners acting outside the USA so it applies unlawful jurisdiction by kidnapping and unlawful transport of victims into US territory. That is why the USA uses secret military courts because the action of detention of foreigners and kidnapping would not be acceptable to the US judicial system.

Where were the US Military computer mainframes that were hacked into to gain the information that Wikileaks leaked????

If they were in the US then Assange committed the crime on US soil.

Is it not the same when foreign hackers breach govt, companies data bases here in Australia?

Doesn't the AFP/ASIO seek assistance from other countries police forces & intelligence agencies to bring those responsible to justice?


So the US had a right to seek Assanges extradition.

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 8:09pm:

Where is his step-father, Assange. Perhaps deceased? (Now, bugger off.  SOO on)

Yeah well what can you say about that result?

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 9:16pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 8:42pm: Great interview by ABC's 7.30 Sarah Ferguson, of MAGA- darling MT Greene; Marjorie has supported Assange for years because he "exposed lies of government". The interview went well until Sarah attempted to change the subject to Trump.... the two ladies began sparring like prize fighters...Greene was feisty and held up well. O dear, what confused bunnies we all are. I might head to China, hope the government knows what it is doing, and shut up about politics..... If you think Ferguson had her on to talk sweet, warm and cuddly about Assange, you might like a big steel bridge I have for sale in Sydney. Green is a sitting duck.  Easy meat, you just have to offer her the right lure, as Ferguson did, and she came right in to the Interview, thinking Ferguson was a tame Aussie pussy.  She must not have seen Ferguson rip the arse out of "The Kraken." Did it not also cross your mind that Green was espousing, lauding, championing the role of the media (Assange) in exposing stuff, yet when it came to her being asked questions about what she had been up to in the past and present, she sought to restrict the media? I'll be posting that Interview on the Yank Forum as soon as iView has it up. FMD.

Funnily I saw a clip of that ... Greene was having none of it ... & Ferguson got her arse ripped.

If you think Ferguson could dish up the same off topic shyte like Peccar does here bringing Trump into every post then you were mistaken.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 10:02am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:53pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:43pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:28pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:22pm: Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time. Given he has now admitted to espionage, let's see if he's now considered a terrorist by the Australian government. He was forced to admit espionage, to assuage the guilt of those exposed  for conducting US war crimes, and to have any chance of ever returning home.    Why is he landing in Canberra?  I guess because it's our capital city, and half a dozen politicians - from Canberra - helped to get him home. Would be weird if he landed in Adelaide   :-/

They may attend Parliament in Canberra but they are not necessarily "from" Canberra.

Albo is not from Canberra.

Rudd certainly isn't. Nor is he a politician.

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 12:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 7:39am: Ironic that, while Yankists rant about freedom as if they invented the idea, now, through the Assange fiasco, their governance system is lumbered with having jeopardised press freedom and smearing the presumed sanctity and protections of their Constitution's 1st Amendment. In this, Yankists acted no differently than China's CCP with its security laws. Its the same everywhere.   In Australia, we jailed David McBride for exposing war crimes in Afghanistan.  And Witness K was convicted for exposing spying against the East Timor, in order to gain financial advantage for private companies like Woodside.

You're not referring to that mincing twat Alexander Downer?  ;D

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 12:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 12:01pm: Why would Albanese ring Assange, and more stupidly, make it public that he did? For the huge political capital it would earn him. Why else?

You think? I thought it was another nail in his political careers coffin.

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 1:10pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 12:42pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 12:01pm: Why would Albanese ring Assange, and more stupidly, make it public that he did? For the huge political capital it would earn him. Why else? I think he has mis-read the room.

Again .... it seems to be his forte ever since he got the job.

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 3:36pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 3:32pm: Ummm would’t they be KCs now? Betty is gone after all and Chuck is on the throne, not? He was QC at the time.   Many Barristers who were QCs kept the tag after she died.  Others went on to the KC thing.

Did they also form a band?

Assange really has been the USs Boogie Man.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8jHcRg9-jI&ab_channel=RETROVISOR

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 11:05am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 10:02am: Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:53pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:43pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:28pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:22pm: Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time. Given he has now admitted to espionage, let's see if he's now considered a terrorist by the Australian government. He was forced to admit espionage, to assuage the guilt of those exposed  for conducting US war crimes, and to have any chance of ever returning home.    Why is he landing in Canberra?  I guess because it's our capital city, and half a dozen politicians - from Canberra - helped to get him home. Would be weird if he landed in Adelaide   :-/ They may attend Parliament in Canberra ...

Yep, and they were there at the time.

Makes perfect sense for him to land in Canberra.

Where would you suggest: Alice Springs?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 12:18pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 30th, 2024 at 11:05am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 10:02am: Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:53pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:43pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:28pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:22pm: Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time. Given he has now admitted to espionage, let's see if he's now considered a terrorist by the Australian government. He was forced to admit espionage, to assuage the guilt of those exposed  for conducting US war crimes, and to have any chance of ever returning home.    Why is he landing in Canberra?  I guess because it's our capital city, and half a dozen politicians - from Canberra - helped to get him home. Would be weird if he landed in Adelaide   :-/ They may attend Parliament in Canberra ... Yep, and they were there at the time. Makes perfect sense for him to land in Canberra. Where would you suggest: Alice Springs?

Close to where he intends to reside?

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 12:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2024 at 12:18pm: Gnads wrote on Jun 30th, 2024 at 11:05am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 10:02am: Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:53pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:43pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:28pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:22pm: Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time. Given he has now admitted to espionage, let's see if he's now considered a terrorist by the Australian government. He was forced to admit espionage, to assuage the guilt of those exposed  for conducting US war crimes, and to have any chance of ever returning home.    Why is he landing in Canberra?  I guess because it's our capital city, and half a dozen politicians - from Canberra - helped to get him home. Would be weird if he landed in Adelaide   :-/ They may attend Parliament in Canberra ... Yep, and they were there at the time. Makes perfect sense for him to land in Canberra. Where would you suggest: Alice Springs? Close to where he intends to reside?

He would want to thank the 6 politicians in Canberra first.

Of all the things to argue about in regards to Assange, where his plane landed seems to be the least important of all.

In fact, it's just not important.  A non-issue.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 12:25pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 30th, 2024 at 12:20pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2024 at 12:18pm: Gnads wrote on Jun 30th, 2024 at 11:05am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 10:02am: Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:53pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:43pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:28pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2024 at 2:22pm: Dunno what restrictions the Government can bung on him...he will be a free man having done his time. Given he has now admitted to espionage, let's see if he's now considered a terrorist by the Australian government. He was forced to admit espionage, to assuage the guilt of those exposed  for conducting US war crimes, and to have any chance of ever returning home.    Why is he landing in Canberra?  I guess because it's our capital city, and half a dozen politicians - from Canberra - helped to get him home. Would be weird if he landed in Adelaide   :-/ They may attend Parliament in Canberra ... Yep, and they were there at the time. Makes perfect sense for him to land in Canberra. Where would you suggest: Alice Springs? Close to where he intends to reside? He would want to thank the 6 politicians in Canberra first. Of all the things to argue about in regards to Assange, where his plane landed seems to be the least important of all. In fact, it's just not important.  A non-issue.

Well why did you bother responding to the question?