Going with the Dolphin from byd.

Absolutely love the brand and it's rise.

Love the car, it's just so zipped!

Couldn't care less if I save the environment at all. Just into the whole revolution away from combustion old motors.

Not a very lot has really changed under the bonnet since first Ford.

I appreciate cheaper options are on the horizon but it's tax time for me.

See you all at traffic lights!

In my rear view mirror 😁

If a 6 hour charge and ~350 range suits you then do it.

I wish I'd held off a little longer on our 2 car upgrades, both Toyota Hybrids.

Getting ~3L per 100kms is great, but it would have been nice if they were at least plug in hybrids if not full EV.

Lots of positive reasons for it, but not being tempted by buy a chocky @ the servo would be great.

the dolphin is sweet
seal is a little more classy
byd are the best battery manufacturors
after sales is an issue
i think eagers holden have the contract for brisbane and they know very little about them

let us know what you think

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 10:32am:

If a 6 hour charge and ~350 range suits you then do it. I wish I'd held off a little longer on our 2 car upgrades, both Toyota Hybrids. Getting ~3L per 100kms is great, but it would have been nice if they were at least plug in hybrids if not full EV. Lots of positive reasons for it, but not being tempted by buy a chocky @ the servo would be great.

Yes, that limited range makes it okay for city use only.  Bung it on the charger overnight when required.

I have been a passenger in the Tesla Dual Motor.  Nice bells and whistles, absolutely stunning, mind blowing acceleration, but....it's really is not much more than a very expensive fast off the mark, golf cart.

My next major car purchase, hopefully will be the Prado plug in hybrid.

I don't care if the electric range is low, it will be enough for most of my daily driving.

Unless something more interesting comes along

I had a ride in a Detroit Electric car years ago and also in some of today’s offerings, but for sheer driving pleasure I’ll stick with my 1949 2.5 Riley saloon.

Gordon wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

My next major car purchase, hopefully will be the Prado plug in hybrid. I don't care if the electric range is low, it will be enough for most of my daily driving. Unless something more interesting comes along

Good on you
I have no idea what I may get next.
I have a problem of getting rid of a car that suits me perfectly well

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 5:25pm:

I had a ride in a Detroit Electric car years ago and also in some of today’s offerings, but for sheer driving pleasure I’ll stick with my 1949 2.5 Riley saloon.

Yeah, I'll get an EV when they bring out manual versions.

A good friend of mine has a BYD - it's a sweet ride.

He drives it to Albany, which is 400km away.

He recharges at Williams, which is about half way.

I've done the drive with him, and the BYD is a lovely smooth ride - I have no complaints.

But for me, I still need a gas-guzzling combustion engine when I'm the driver.

I'm sure I'll go electric one day, but not today.

What turns me off an EV is limited range of travel, and needing to find a charge station, and in our travels we look at them and see “out of order” so I says to the hubby…and if an EV needed charging and this is out of order… what then?
Also, it’s how long re-charging takes when driving out and about.
Some are fast charging… some are not.
And if you come across a charging hub for charge, and others are there before you… there’s the waiting game.
Bring some reading material while you wait.
If it were just driving around local and easy to charge at home, then maybe I will get one, but not yet.
Funny how Hertz in the USA are getting rid of all their car hire EVs because of high repair/maintenance costs.
I also heard the value of EVs have dropped a lot….

“The average car loses 14 per cent of its value in its first two years, according to new research that says the average electric car plunges by 42 per cent over the same period.11”

I'm happy with my 2.7l DOHC diesel turbo V6 - gives 937 km to the tank (74 l) and is smooth as and pretty non-smelly.  Less emissions per tank than the fuels burned to charge your lecco ... I also hear the building cost is huge on those things.

Not against them on principle, but I just don't see them as practical for what I need a vehicle for.

ADDS:-  On the long flat open runs out Peccary's way it would be even better on fuel.

Thanks everyone for your input.

Grapple it's definitely horse's for courses and I could still be swayed by a Mazda 2 for my city commute but I really love cars.

Money suckin things they are and normally I'm shy on new technology but.

Its  a whole new motor and power source and it's fun like driving a little sport golf cart and in traffic that's fun.

I'm also really interested in the electrical motor and drive train.

I won't say any more because apparently I drone on and quite boring.

It's a money were my mouth is shock for friends 😁

On a more general note, remember to assume that everything the salesman tells you is a lie. Even the petty stuff where you cannot think of any good reason he might have to lie to you, he is lying because he is too lazy to find out the correct answer to your question.

freediver wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 8:14am:

On a more general note, remember to assume that everything the salesman tells you is a lie. Even the petty stuff where you cannot think of any good reason he might have to lie to you, he is lying because he is too lazy to find out the correct answer to your question.

Indeed.

And that goes double for real estate agents.

Maybe triple.

All cars depreciate, some more than others.

Your BYD depreciation will be huge.

Factor that in amd you'll be way ahead with an ICE Toyota or Mazda

freediver wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 8:14am:

On a more general note, remember to assume that everything the salesman tells you is a lie. Even the petty stuff where you cannot think of any good reason he might have to lie to you, he is lying because he is too lazy to find out the correct answer to your question.

I remember wanting to remove a spoiler from the back of a Commodore when ordering a new one way back when.

Salesman said no problem, the boys can do that.  Got near the end of the process and the Sales manager called me saying it wasn't possible because there is a law requiring eye-level brake lights, which was incorporated into the spoiler and they have to install what I'd call a cyclops in the back window for an additional 3K that they weren't willing to absorb.

They handled it very poorly and the initial salesman after getting caught in the bugger up left me a threatening voicemail as if I'd done something wrong haha.

Needless to say, cancelled the order, got the deposit back after a threatening letter from my lawyer and I've been buying Toyota ever since.

Eye level brake lights? I think they made that one up.

freediver wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 1:13pm:

Eye level brake lights? I think they made that one up.

It sounded made up, but it's been a requirement since like 1989. 

I'm using "eye level break lights" but it's probably more accurate to call it "a central high mounted stop lamp" and it's an ADR requirement.

freediver wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 1:13pm:

Eye level brake lights? I think they made that one up.

Good idea.

Side Note:-  " Re: going to buy an elect... " ... looks like:-  'Going to buy an election' in a State election year.

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 12:56am:

Going with the Dolphin from byd. Absolutely love the brand and it's rise. Love the car, it's just so zipped! Couldn't care less if I save the environment at all. Just into the whole revolution away from combustion old motors. Not a very lot has really changed under the bonnet since first Ford. I appreciate cheaper options are on the horizon but it's tax time for me. See you all at traffic lights! In my rear view mirror 😁

If what you're saying is true...

then you're a DH. plain & simple.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:16pm:

A good friend of mine has a BYD - it's a sweet ride. He drives it to Albany, which is 400km away. He recharges at Williams, which is about half way. I've done the drive with him, and the BYD is a lovely smooth ride - I have no complaints. But for me, I still need a gas-guzzling combustion engine when I'm the driver. I'm sure I'll go electric one day, but not today.

Goodo ... more Chinese shyte.

Sophia wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 8:43pm:

What turns me off an EV is limited range of travel, and needing to find a charge station, and in our travels we look at them and see “out of order” so I says to the hubby…and if an EV needed charging and this is out of order… what then? Also, it’s how long re-charging takes when driving out and about. Some are fast charging… some are not. And if you come across a charging hub for charge, and others are there before you… there’s the waiting game. Bring some reading material while you wait. If it were just driving around local and easy to charge at home, then maybe I will get one, but not yet. Funny how Hertz in the USA are getting rid of all their car hire EVs because of high repair/maintenance costs. I also heard the value of EVs have dropped a lot…. “The average car loses 14 per cent of its value in its first two years, according to new research that says the average electric car plunges by 42 per cent over the same period.11”

Because of battery life & replacement costs 2nd hand EVs aren't worth shyte.

If people think going EV is saving the planet then they are deluded numpties.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 1:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 21st, 2024 at 1:13pm: Eye level brake lights? I think they made that one up. It sounded made up, but it's been a requirement since like 1989.  I'm using "eye level break lights" but it's probably more accurate to call it "a central high mounted stop lamp" and it's an ADR requirement.

So how do they put that on a sedan?

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 8:53pm:

I'm happy with my 2.7l DOHC diesel turbo V6 - gives 937 km to the tank (74 l) and is smooth as and pretty non-smelly.  Less emissions per tank than the fuels burned to charge your lecco ... I also hear the building cost is huge on those things. Not against them on principle, but I just don't see them as practical for what I need a vehicle for. ADDS:-  On the long flat open runs out Peccary's way it would be even better on fuel.

Brand, year & model graps ... if you would?

A 2.7ltr diesel turboV6 that gets 937 klms on 74 ltrs?

Sorry mate ... I don't believe ya.

I've got a 2008 Nissan 4 cyl 2.5 turbo common rail diesel 4x4 with an 80 ltr tank that's never done better than 540 klms.

Excuse my skepticism. 

Gnads wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 6:42pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 20th, 2024 at 8:53pm: I'm happy with my 2.7l DOHC diesel turbo V6 - gives 937 km to the tank (74 l) and is smooth as and pretty non-smelly.  Less emissions per tank than the fuels burned to charge your lecco ... I also hear the building cost is huge on those things. Not against them on principle, but I just don't see them as practical for what I need a vehicle for. ADDS:-  On the long flat open runs out Peccary's way it would be even better on fuel. Brand, year & model graps ... if you would? A 2.7ltr diesel turboV6 that gets 937 klms on 74 ltrs? Sorry mate ... I don't believe ya. I've got a 2008 Nissan 4 cyl 2.5 turbo common rail diesel 4x4 with an 80 ltr tank that's never done better than 540 klms. Excuse my skepticism.

Grappler's fantasies are heading for a head-on collision with Gordon's fantasies. A lot of sh!t would be shed in such an incident.

Grappler has been a welfare recipient all his life.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/27/2f/71/272f717064006105e2cf99221466ca4e.jpg

freediver wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 6:40pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 21st, 2024 at 1:27pm: freediver wrote on Jun 21st, 2024 at 1:13pm: Eye level brake lights? I think they made that one up. It sounded made up, but it's been a requirement since like 1989.  I'm using "eye level break lights" but it's probably more accurate to call it "a central high mounted stop lamp" and it's an ADR requirement. So how do they put that on a sedan?

The light on the rear dashboard

Well I didn't drive away happy, in fact I didn't drive away at all.

Arrived a hour late for my appointment ( I blame the government but actually the females in my house are the culprits).

The " experience centre" was super busy but I still receive excellent customer service and was fully advise of wait times ,etc.

Females loved the car ( I was already sold) so the confirmation was positive.

Still waiting we enjoyed the cup cakes offered, did I mention the customer service was excellent just totally overwhelmed?

Daughter became ill after two hours so I politely said we had to leave and agreement that they would contact me.

On the way home I rang the local Toyota and asked about the yarris, again, quality honest customer service and was told a 6 to 12 month waiting list😳

I'll check in with my local Mazda dealer next week.

Any negative thoughts about Honda?

Note I'm very vibe orientation.

If it's not right I've learnt walk. It's a gut feeling thing for me.

I was pleasantly surprised at the level of customer service I received at both byd and Toyota.

Sales people only have two hands, just like the rest of us

If you are keen to get it faster, ring around the local dealerships. I was told the same thing about stock levels by Mitsubishi - nothing available, price will go up with the next model, order ASAP etc. Then I rang around and found two dealers with the vehicle I wanted in stock, and negotiated $2000 off from one of them.

Excellent advice, thankyou.

They will be very polite and 'helpful' to you, while lying through their teeth. Those cupcakes are a poor substitute for the truth.

If it's your first dive into the idea perhaps confirm your actually residential power supply specifications first is my suggestion. You can go through the EV selection process of car on car comparison all you like but charging them at home requires a certain level of power that may surprise you.

I just went through a whole process here in WA that turned into such a costly reality I canned the whole idea of Solar Power installation altogether.

It all came down to Amperage: I have a granny flat and main house which the gov wants more of to help with the housing crisis and introduced special easy approval for over here in WA as part of the solution. When it comes to power supply however, that effectively means the big drawers are doubled up. Two ovens, two hotplates, two hot-water systems, multiple split systems air cons etc. It turns out that the new regs from Western Power over here, insist all new solar installs or changes to existing systems, require supply restriction via installation of 63 Amp Circuit Breaker at the main switch. This meant adding an EV charger and or Pool Heat pump could never happen on my forcibly newly reduced 63Amps standard residential system supply, if I installed the solar system.. I had 3 electricians and Western Power confirm the reality. I had no choice but to can the whole idea unless I included a high cost power upgrade (many thousands) that had problematic phase load splitting requirements anyway and Western Power themselves advised me to cancel the Solar install.

It's an interesting conundrum whereby leaders want everyone ditching gas etc and going all electric, including charging EVs at home, and putting more homes on one supply line etc, whilst concomitantly reducing the amount of electrical supply you can have!!

Grappler's economy rate on fantasy road trips is 1 thought per 100 km of fantasy using either fantasy electric or "diesel".

Gordon hardly ever appears in Grappler's rear view mirror.

Always a good idea to get two dealers to complete against each other. Many years ago, I think 2007, the Ford Territory ghia was ticketed at $56k each.  I was buying 2 for the company so I had an advantage,  but I just went back and forth from one to the other until I got down to 46k each. Both dealers knew what i was doing.

I also got nearly 10k back in gst that month from it so I was up 30k.

^ this all excellent advice, particular about charging from home.

I really appreciate everyone's input and advice  8-)

How big are the batteries, and do they attract sharks?   :-/

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 7:17pm:

^ this all excellent advice, particular about charging from home. I really appreciate everyone's input and advice  8-)

I wouldn't buy a Chinese car.

Never buy the first model of any car they all have problems which are fixed when car is updated.
Manufacturers upgrade dodgey parts when those who fix them point out the problems.

freediver wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 6:40pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 21st, 2024 at 1:27pm: freediver wrote on Jun 21st, 2024 at 1:13pm: Eye level brake lights? I think they made that one up. It sounded made up, but it's been a requirement since like 1989.  I'm using "eye level break lights" but it's probably more accurate to call it "a central high mounted stop lamp" and it's an ADR requirement. So how do they put that on a sedan?

Top of the rear window.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/06/24/nolte-almost-half-of-u-s-electric-car-owners-regret-purchase/

Almost Half of U.S. Electric Car Owners Regret Purchase .

Breitbart, LOL!

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:01am:

Breitbart, LOL!

they quote a survey from here:

https://executivedigest.sapo.pt/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Mobility-Consumer-Pulse-2024_Overview.pdf



forgiven

namaste

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