What do you all think of this?

Possible the largest forum in Australia called Whirlpool is heavily moderated.

Example:

https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/wp_rules#wp_pointlessposting


"Religious" debates

Note: this section DOES NOT exclusively refer to debates about religion.

"Religious" debates are so called because they have a lot in common with (but are not necessarily) discussions of religion and politics. These consist largely of people expressing strongly held personal beliefs about things that can't be proven — supposedly in the interest of agreeing on the best way to do something important, whether it's attaining eternal peace, governing effectively, imposing morality upon others, or determining which gaming console is superior.

And, like most such debates, they rarely result in anyone involved changing their point of view. Aside from being unproductive and ultimately pointless, these arguments consume inordinate amounts of moderator's efforts and erode the value of this open discussion environment.

Examples of "Religious" topics include:

    Mac vs PC (vs Linux, etc)
    XBox vs PlayStation (vs Wii, etc)
    Android vs iOS (vs Windows Phone 7, etc)
    Holden vs Ford (vs Toyota, etc)
    Auto vs Manual transmissions
    Atheism vs Agnosticism vs Religion
    Evolution denialism
    Climate change denialism
    Automotive – ICE vs EV

Threads which seek to unproductively perpetuate any of these debates will be closed or removed.

Before you complain about a thread being closed or deleted due to a 'Religious Debate' ruling, its probably worth your time reading and understanding this excellent article from youarenotsosmart on how marketing companies manipulate us.

Sounds reasonable to me Bobby.

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 10:05am:

Sounds reasonable to me Bobby.

yes - that does to me too.

However there is a very long page of rules there:

https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/wp_rules#wp_pointlessposting

Does Whirlpool crack down on the doxxing and trolling you do here, Booby?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 10:11am:

Does Whirlpool crack down on the doxxing and trolling you do here, Booby?

You wouldn't last 5 posts on Whirlpool.    ::)

It reminds me a bit of why I created a separate board for federal politics. Otherwise the whole forum would be taken over by cheerleaders for the major parties shouting slogans at each other.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 10:15am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 10:11am: Does Whirlpool crack down on the doxxing and trolling you do here, Booby? You wouldn't last 5 posts on Whirlpool.    ::)

I was fairly active on Whirlpool at one stage, never moderated. You?

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 10:20am:

It reminds me a bit of why I created a separate board for federal politics. Otherwise the whole forum would be taken over by cheerleaders for the major parties shouting slogans at each other.

Many of the rules sound like you could have written them -
it's even in your style of writing. 

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 10:28am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 10:15am: Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 10:11am: Does Whirlpool crack down on the doxxing and trolling you do here, Booby? You wouldn't last 5 posts on Whirlpool.    ::) I was fairly active on Whirlpool at one stage, never moderated. You?

I got into trouble many times going off topic when the actual topic
was not clearly defined.
If people reply - then you can end up with a dozen posts or more
in a row deleted and then get the blame for it.   :-[

So you were moderated, not really surprising given your behavior here!

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 10:36am:

So you were moderated, not really surprising given your behavior here!

You'd be banned for trolling:

https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/wp_rules#wp_pointlessposting

Why is "Trolling" bad?

The main goal of "trolling" is to incite an emotional or knee-jerk response from other posters. This response is typically in the form of:

• a personal attack;
• a repeat of previous points/posts; or
• an emotional outburst.

Such posts and the responses they generate tend to undermine the friendly atmosphere of WP, and often result in long running feuds between (what can only be described as) factions loyal to one side or the other.

Nicknames

Use of nicknames for a user or public figure adds nothing to a discussion and is frequently used as a form of trolling, especially in political and sports related threads.

Such posts will be removed until the nickname is edited to be an appropriate name for the individual. Appropriate names include a reasonable shortening of the name or names used extensively by the person themselves, but not beyond this.


Anatomy of a Troll

Trolling is perhaps the hardest thing to detect with any accuracy, simply because it really is in the eye of the beholder. However, experience has shown us that trolls tend to follow set patterns of behaviour. For example, trolls:

• Post to get emotional responses from other posters.
• Always post the same tired responses in response to the same tired topics.
• Never answer questions directed at them.
• Never justify their position.
• Always demand documentary evidence from others to support their assertions, while offering none in return.
• Always disappear if their bluff is called.

From a moderator perspective, if a post serves no purpose other than to upset others, then there is a good chance that the poster is trolling. The next question we look at is whether the poster meant to troll, or not. That is where moderators will look at the poster's user history to determine what is "normal behaviour" for the user.

Hmm.

If OzPolitic had the same rules as Whirlpool and they were enforced there would probably be no more than about half a dozen posters left unbanned here.

:)

Carl D wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 10:54am:

Hmm. If OzPolitic had the same rules as Whirlpool and they were enforced there would probably be no more than about half a dozen posters left unbanned here. :)

Very true -  Whirlpool is ridiculous.

Whirlpool is fine.

Booby posted:

Quote:

Why is "Trolling" bad? The main goal of "trolling" is to incite an emotional or knee-jerk response from other posters. This response is typically in the form of: • a personal attack; • a repeat of previous points/posts; or

Both of those you do.

HM times have you mentioned “Roaring 40s?” “Blanket/jumper for Socks?” etc etc?

A few bans would have improved your behavior HEAPS!

You just dislike discipline being applied to you, Bobby.  You dislike rules applied to you.  Witness your foolish performance in the Defence Forum.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Booby has narcissistic tendencies.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 1:10pm:

You just dislike discipline being applied to you, Bobby.  You dislike rules applied to you.  Witness your foolish performance in the Defence Forum.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

I remember - it's all recorded:
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1698655992/0#0



Bobby. wrote on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 6:53pm:

Conversation transferred here because Brian threatened to ban me for winning the argument. Brian Ross wrote on Oct 30th, 2023 at 2:00pm: Bobby. wrote on Oct 29th, 2023 at 8:15pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 29th, 2023 at 6:00pm: AUKUS nuclear submarine deal triggers accusations over cost and construction ::) We can't afford those subs. The whole idea is ridiculous. Don't you have a conspiracy you can peddle somewhere else, Bobby?  Australia can collectively afford these boats. It has been explained to you many times. Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 1:45pm:

Booby has narcissistic tendencies.

No that's you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiayFIBYIW0

LOL, no it is you alright.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 9:46am:

What do you all think of this? Possible the largest forum in Australia called Whirlpool is heavily moderated. Example: https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/wp_rules#wp_pointlessposting "Religious" debates Note: this section DOES NOT exclusively refer to debates about religion. "Religious" debates are so called because they have a lot in common with (but are not necessarily) discussions of religion and politics. These consist largely of people expressing strongly held personal beliefs about things that can't be proven — supposedly in the interest of agreeing on the best way to do something important, whether it's attaining eternal peace, governing effectively, imposing morality upon others, or determining which gaming console is superior. And, like most such debates, they rarely result in anyone involved changing their point of view. Aside from being unproductive and ultimately pointless, these arguments consume inordinate amounts of moderator's efforts and erode the value of this open discussion environment. Examples of "Religious" topics include:     Mac vs PC (vs Linux, etc)     XBox vs PlayStation (vs Wii, etc)     Android vs iOS (vs Windows Phone 7, etc)     Holden vs Ford (vs Toyota, etc)     Auto vs Manual transmissions     Atheism vs Agnosticism vs Religion     Evolution denialism     Climate change denialism     Automotive – ICE vs EV Threads which seek to unproductively perpetuate any of these debates will be closed or removed. Before you complain about a thread being closed or deleted due to a 'Religious Debate' ruling, its probably worth your time reading and understanding this excellent article from youarenotsosmart on how marketing companies manipulate us.

That article is here:

https://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/05/19/fanboyism-and-brand-loyalty/

You can do tests for narcissistic personality disorder, Booby, e.g:

https://blossomup.co/lp/personality-test

But you are definitely a narcissist.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 11:00am:

Carl D wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 10:54am: Hmm. If OzPolitic had the same rules as Whirlpool and they were enforced there would probably be no more than about half a dozen posters left unbanned here. :) Very true -  Whirlpool is ridiculous.

Well, that wasn't actually the point I was trying to make but nevermind...

Links from other sites that severely criticise Whirlpool:


https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/682787?page=1

https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/2r64gm/what_sort_of_people_run_and_moderate_the_forums/

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/799563?page=2

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/421505

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 10:32am:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 10:20am: It reminds me a bit of why I created a separate board for federal politics. Otherwise the whole forum would be taken over by cheerleaders for the major parties shouting slogans at each other. Many of the rules sound like you could have written them - it's even in your style of writing.

freediver could not write even one sentence of that.

I never knew the place existed.  So....I'll go register.

A zillion topics none of which I could give a flying flamingo about.  Waste of time.

Aussie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 5:52pm:

A zillion topics none of which I could give a flying flamingo about.  Waste of time.

But you can't see the best part called ITN -  in the news -

until you have a certain number of posts.

Carl D wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 5:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 11:00am: Carl D wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 10:54am: Hmm. If OzPolitic had the same rules as Whirlpool and they were enforced there would probably be no more than about half a dozen posters left unbanned here. :) Very true -  Whirlpool is ridiculous. Well, that wasn't actually the point I was trying to make but nevermind...

LOL! Arguing with a narcissist won’t get you far!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Aussie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 5:52pm:

A zillion topics none of which I could give a flying flamingo about.  Waste of time.

Apparently all of the 'exciting' topics are in the In The News section.

But it's 'hidden' unless you have become a Forum Regular.


Quote:

Forum Regular — 400 posts and 6 months membership or 200 posts and 1 year membership.

I've been a member there for 6 years and I have 198 posts... I only need another 2 to gain access but I'm not in any hurry, I've only made one or two posts there in the last 12 months.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 5:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 5:52pm: A zillion topics none of which I could give a flying flamingo about.  Waste of time. But you can't see the best part called ITN -  in the news - until you have a certain number of posts.

FMD.....why would I bother being involved in what is offered to newbies to get to something worth talking about.

Nah.  It can do without me.

How come you never got anyone from there to enlist at the sewerage cemetery?

Did Goober get banned from Whirlpool?

Aussie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 6:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 5:58pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 5:52pm: A zillion topics none of which I could give a flying flamingo about.  Waste of time. But you can't see the best part called ITN -  in the news - until you have a certain number of posts. FMD.....why would I bother being involved in what is offered to newbies to get to something worth talking about. Nah.  It can do without me. How come you never got anyone from there to enlist at the sewerage cemetery?

Never thought of it.
I hardly ever posted there except when I had technical problems with computers.
It was good way to get answers.

You are banned from Whirlpool, right Goober?

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 4:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 1:10pm: You just dislike discipline being applied to you, Bobby.  You dislike rules applied to you.  Witness your foolish performance in the Defence Forum.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) I remember - it's all recorded: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1698655992/0#0 Bobby. wrote on Oct 30th, 2023 at 6:53pm: Conversation transferred here because Brian threatened to ban me for winning the argument. Brian Ross wrote on Oct 30th, 2023 at 2:00pm: Bobby. wrote on Oct 29th, 2023 at 8:15pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 29th, 2023 at 6:00pm: AUKUS nuclear submarine deal triggers accusations over cost and construction ::) We can't afford those subs. The whole idea is ridiculous. Don't you have a conspiracy you can peddle somewhere else, Bobby?  Australia can collectively afford these boats. It has been explained to you many times. Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

"Winning"  means you have to have some facts backing your argument. Appears that you don't, Bobby.  Your banning will stay in place until you apologise and admit your error in assuming these boats will send us broke.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Booby never apologises, a sign of narcissistic personality disorder.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 9:46am:

What do you all think of this? Possible the largest forum in Australia called Whirlpool is heavily moderated. Example: https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/wp_rules#wp_pointlessposting

I am glad you posted this, Bobby. It is another website that I can bookmark to visit.

The rules are quite reasonable. There is no need to have posters posting pointlessly, to just to get their post count up. I think regular posters here at OzPol and PolAnimal do that for the sake of boasting their post count numbers.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 6:16pm:

"Winning"  means you have to have some facts backing your argument. Appears that you don't, Bobby.  Your banning will stay in place until you apologise and admit your error in assuming these boats will send us broke.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

It's all rebutted at the link I gave  -
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1698655992/0#0
We are already over $1 trillion in debt.

We'll get only 8 subs for $368 billion.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 1:10pm:

You just dislike discipline being applied to you, Bobby.  You dislike rules applied to you.  Witness your foolish performance in the Defence Forum.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Speaking of pointless posting, there is Brian and his repetitive memes of contempt for other posters. Particularly his yawning emojis and "tsk, tsk" responses. That would have you off the board at whirlpool, methinks.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 1:10pm: You just dislike discipline being applied to you, Bobby.  You dislike rules applied to you.  Witness your foolish performance in the Defence Forum.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) Speaking of pointless posting, there is Brian and his repetitive memes of contempt for other posters. Particularly his yawning emojis and "tsk, tsk" responses. That would have you off the board at whirlpool, methinks.

Brian wouldn't last 5 posts there - a bit like Monk.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 6:30pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 6:28pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 1:10pm: You just dislike discipline being applied to you, Bobby.  You dislike rules applied to you.  Witness your foolish performance in the Defence Forum.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) Speaking of pointless posting, there is Brian and his repetitive memes of contempt for other posters. Particularly his yawning emojis and "tsk, tsk" responses. That would have you off the board at whirlpool, methinks. Brian wouldn't last 5 posts there - a bit like Monk.

Unless you three made a conscientious effort to abide by the rules, none of you would last 5 posts there. Maybe if you were not to interact with each other, you would survive a lot longer.

I am not banned and was never moderated at Whirlpool but Booby got banned from there. Rather than admit being banned Booby starts a thread saying Whirlpool is heavily moderated, typical narcissistic behaviour.

Carl D wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 6:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 5:52pm: A zillion topics none of which I could give a flying flamingo about.  Waste of time. Apparently all of the 'exciting' topics are in the In The News section. But it's 'hidden' unless you have become a Forum Regular. Quote: Forum Regular — 400 posts and 6 months membership or 200 posts and 1 year membership. I've been a member there for 6 years and I have 198 posts... I only need another 2 to gain access but I'm not in any hurry, I've only made one or two posts there in the last 12 months.

Please post some links to here and invite people over.

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 9:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 6:03pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 5:52pm: A zillion topics none of which I could give a flying flamingo about.  Waste of time. Apparently all of the 'exciting' topics are in the In The News section. But it's 'hidden' unless you have become a Forum Regular. Quote: Forum Regular — 400 posts and 6 months membership or 200 posts and 1 year membership. I've been a member there for 6 years and I have 198 posts... I only need another 2 to gain access but I'm not in any hurry, I've only made one or two posts there in the last 12 months. Please post some links to here and invite people over.

But that is not permitted:


https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/wp_rules#wp_pointlessposting


Non-Commercial Advertising
Promoting your stuff is not permitted

Using Whirlpool to promote other sites (be it your own site, or that of a friend, etc) or a specific "user space" on a third-party site (such as youtube, flickr, discord, blogspot etc), is not acceptable

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 10:15am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 10:11am: Does Whirlpool crack down on the doxxing and trolling you do here, Booby? You wouldn't last 5 posts on Whirlpool.    ::)

They don't tolerate the sorts of lies and baseless claims and conspiracies that are the backbone of everything you post Bobby.  You would instantly lose access to their ITN section.

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 9:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 6:03pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 5:52pm: A zillion topics none of which I could give a flying flamingo about.  Waste of time. Apparently all of the 'exciting' topics are in the In The News section. But it's 'hidden' unless you have become a Forum Regular. Quote: Forum Regular — 400 posts and 6 months membership or 200 posts and 1 year membership. I've been a member there for 6 years and I have 198 posts... I only need another 2 to gain access but I'm not in any hurry, I've only made one or two posts there in the last 12 months. Please post some links to here and invite people over.

I don't think you want that sort of attention.

You'd be inviting people with the motivation and means to cancel this place because of the blatant racism you champion on here.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

I am not banned and was never moderated at Whirlpool but Booby got banned from there. Rather than admit being banned Booby starts a thread saying Whirlpool is heavily moderated, typical narcissistic behaviour.

I had to take a break from there in 2017.  I was banned for a short time not because of my posts, but the reactions I'd get from other people.

Turns out debunking the bullshit claims of others and triggering them into attacking you, creating a lot of work for the mods even though they didn't ever have to moderate my posts (unless I quote replied someone that they did have to mod) was enough for them to give me a break.

At least it was never death threats like here, but people would often get personal which would require the mods to step in.

People don't like their opinions being challenged by facts and reason, especially those who relied on conspiracies and lies to support a certain orange individual, they always lash out.

Seems the mods over there needed a safe space too.

But that was only temporary and I cooled off and let those nutters be over there.

Too bad they're not so lucky here.

Whirlpool is really good when you need tech info on just about any topic as there are so many people on there.

I still have ITN access but the forum is a joke and I read it sometimes but never post. Some mods there are OK, most are just stupid and delete stuff they don't even understand.

An example, when Neville Wran died, I posted, I guess Frazer farted. It got deleted, and I got a weeks suspension. When I got back I got into it with the mod and showed him several references how that was one of the most common jokes about him back in the day... What happened when Frazer farted, Neville Wran...

Gordon wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 8:53am:

Whirlpool is really good when you need tech info on just about any topic as there are so many people on there. I still have ITN access but the forum is a joke and I read it sometimes but never post. Some mods there are OK, most are just stupid and delete stuff they don't even understand. An example, when Neville Wran died, I posted, I guess Frazer farted. It got deleted, and I got a weeks suspension. When I got back I got into it with the mod and showed him several references how that was one of the most common jokes about him back in the day... What happened when Frazer farted, Neville Wran...

Ok, that's actually pretty good haha.

But wtf...

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 8:25am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 10:15am: Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 10:11am: Does Whirlpool crack down on the doxxing and trolling you do here, Booby? You wouldn't last 5 posts on Whirlpool.    ::) They don't tolerate the sorts of lies and baseless claims and conspiracies that are the backbone of everything you post Bobby.  You would instantly lose access to their ITN section.

The ITN section doesn't even allow anyone to discuss issues that are discussed here:

https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/wp_rules#wp_pointlessposting

In the News Etiquette

Given the potentially emotive nature of many of the threads created here,
it's worth reiterating – no racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, or hate-based discussions.

This is the simple test – if it's a generalisation based on race, gender, religion, age, sexual-preference, etc., and there's not empirical, citable evidence to support that position (anecdotal evidence isn't good enough), it's inappropriate. Reword it to get rid of the offensiveness, or it will be deleted.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 11:29am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 8:25am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 10:15am: Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 10:11am: Does Whirlpool crack down on the doxxing and trolling you do here, Booby? You wouldn't last 5 posts on Whirlpool.    ::) They don't tolerate the sorts of lies and baseless claims and conspiracies that are the backbone of everything you post Bobby.  You would instantly lose access to their ITN section. The ITN section doesn't even allow anyone to discuss issues that are discussed here: https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/wp_rules#wp_pointlessposting In the News Etiquette Given the potentially emotive nature of many of the threads created here, it's worth reiterating – no racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, or hate-based discussions. This is the simple test – if it's a generalisation based on race, gender, religion, age, sexual-preference, etc., and there's not empirical, citable evidence to support that position (anecdotal evidence isn't good enough), it's inappropriate. Reword it to get rid of the offensiveness, or it will be deleted.

And unlike here, they enforce their rules.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 11:52am:

And unlike here, they enforce their rules.

Whirlpool is only good for discussion of things like computer problems.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 12:01pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 11:52am: And unlike here, they enforce their rules. Whirlpool is only good for discussion of things like computer problems.

It depends.  If you want a sanitised factual discussion, with no conspiracies, personal attacks or discrimination, or even jokes, then WP is great.

Most people here can't post within those guide rails though.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 8:28am:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 9:33pm: Carl D wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 6:03pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2024 at 5:52pm: A zillion topics none of which I could give a flying flamingo about.  Waste of time. Apparently all of the 'exciting' topics are in the In The News section. But it's 'hidden' unless you have become a Forum Regular. Quote: Forum Regular — 400 posts and 6 months membership or 200 posts and 1 year membership. I've been a member there for 6 years and I have 198 posts... I only need another 2 to gain access but I'm not in any hurry, I've only made one or two posts there in the last 12 months. Please post some links to here and invite people over. I don't think you want that sort of attention. You'd be inviting people with the motivation and means to cancel this place because of the blatant racism you champion on here.

Yeah - we've got to put a stop to that Black Supremacism - being the First Invaders is nothing special...

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 12:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 12:01pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 11:52am: And unlike here, they enforce their rules. Whirlpool is only good for discussion of things like computer problems. It depends.  If you want a sanitised factual discussion, with no conspiracies, personal attacks or discrimination, or even jokes, then WP is great. Most people here can't post within those guide rails though.

https://i.imgur.com/4DLuaqu.gif

Well - you'd know......

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 12:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 12:01pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 11:52am: And unlike here, they enforce their rules. Whirlpool is only good for discussion of things like computer problems. It depends.  If you want a sanitised factual discussion, with no conspiracies, personal attacks or discrimination, or even jokes, then WP is great. Most people here can't post within those guide rails though.

No - when it says -

Quote:

Given the potentially emotive nature of many of the threads created here, it's worth reiterating – no racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, or hate-based discussions.

It implies that a topic cannot even be discussed because some
people may become emotional.
What's the point of having a forum then? -
is it just an echo chamber for woke idiots?

You DID get banned from Whirlpool, right Booby?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

You DID get banned from Whirlpool, right Bobby?

I was banned many times from Whirlpool.

It's only a good place to discuss computers.

That is what it is there for.

It amazes me how quickly you can reply, Bobby. You must have been refreshing the page on this topic every 30 seconds, awaiting a response.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

You DID get banned from Whirlpool, right Booby?

Looking for a new washing machine - this bastard thing hasn't been rinsing properly and I've been getting furious itching from ankles at night... madness....

Oh - not that kind of Whirlpool .... twixt Scylla and Charybdis!!  No - not that one either.... buggar.

OzPol allows the truth even when it hurts .... jeez - I just post links for discussion and it's like the prelude to an advance on the Western Front from some dorks here...

Here's some bait:-  Keffirs Kill Kroc - wildlife slaughter by First Invaders....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/remote-town-exacts-ultimate-revenge-after-crocodile-killed-their-dogs/ar-BB1o84xB?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=96f999ee21c248628fe8c2ae2ded6da6&ei=15&sc=shoreline

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 1:42pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 12:36pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 12:01pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 11:52am: And unlike here, they enforce their rules. Whirlpool is only good for discussion of things like computer problems. It depends.  If you want a sanitised factual discussion, with no conspiracies, personal attacks or discrimination, or even jokes, then WP is great. Most people here can't post within those guide rails though. https://i.imgur.com/4DLuaqu.gif Well - you'd know......

You would get banned pretty quickly.  Your dishonest and discriminatory posts to compensate for all the things that have left you unfulfilled with life wouldn't be accepted there.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 2:03pm:

OzPol allows the truth even when it hurts .... jeez - I just post links for discussion and it's like the prelude to an advance on the Western Front from some dorks here... Here's some bait:-  Keffirs Kill Kroc - wildlife slaughter by First Invaders.... https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/remote-town-exacts-ultimate-revenge-after-crocodile-killed-their-dogs/ar-BB1o84xB?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=96f999ee21c248628fe8c2ae2ded6da6&ei=15&sc=shoreline

In the rare times you do post the truth, or not some race-bait hate fest, nobody cares.

It's just when you show your true colours and call for things like segregation and genocide that normal human beings take issue.

I stay around here because I get exposed to ideas and ways of thinking that are rare to find on the open internet.

Most people would not sign their name to the crap posted here. 

Never been banned at Whirlpool.
Though I've banned quite a few.  :-*

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 1:45pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 12:36pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 12:01pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 11:52am: And unlike here, they enforce their rules. Whirlpool is only good for discussion of things like computer problems. It depends.  If you want a sanitised factual discussion, with no conspiracies, personal attacks or discrimination, or even jokes, then WP is great. Most people here can't post within those guide rails though. No - when it says - Quote: Given the potentially emotive nature of many of the threads created here, it's worth reiterating – no racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, or hate-based discussions. It implies that a topic cannot even be discussed because some people may become emotional. What's the point of having a forum then? - is it just an echo chamber for woke idiots?

Could it be that Whirlpool is afraid of Govt laws around hate speech?
In that case are the moderators unpaid servants for Big Brother?
Is there a right to free speech in Australia?
Elon Musk refused to be censored by the Australian Govt.
and the case was dropped.


https://www.afr.com/technology/esafety-drops-case-against-musk-s-x-over-bishop-stabbing-video-20240605-p5jjf0

Jun 5, 2024

Australia’s eSafety Commissioner Julie Inman Grant has defended her decision to challenge Elon Musk’s X Corp in court after abandoning legal action over the billionaire’s refusal to take down footage of a stabbing at a Sydney church.

Ms Inman Grant said she had made a “strategic decision” to end the Federal Court proceedings, which sought penalties and a permanent injunction to force X to remove footage of bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel being attacked.

X owner Elon Musk has had a win in the Australian courts. Bloomberg

Mr Musk’s team called the decision “a victory for free speech” and the social media site had objected to the “global removal of content that does not violate X’s rules” claiming a win in a test case for the eSafety Commissioner’s powers.

“This case has raised important questions on how legal powers can be used to threaten global censorship of speech, and we are heartened to see that freedom of speech has prevailed,” X’s Global Government Affairs account posted.

The decision to issue the removal notices will now be examined by the Administrative Appeals Tribunal (AAT).

I believe it's the moral duty of forums to allow everyone to have their say.

If their arguments are false then they will brought down with logic not censorship.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 3:48pm:

I believe it's the moral duty of forums to allow everyone to have their say. If their arguments are false then they will brought down with logic not censorship.

In theory, but you're assuming you're dealing with good-faith actors in a reasoned debate, which is rare in this place.

And the use of outright racial slurs serves no purpose other than to push racism, condoned by the entire mod team being unwilling to enforce the forum rules.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 3:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 3:48pm: I believe it's the moral duty of forums to allow everyone to have their say. If their arguments are false then they will brought down with logic not censorship. In theory, but you're assuming you're dealing with good-faith actors in a reasoned debate, which is rare in this place. And the use of outright racial slurs serves no purpose other than to push racism, condoned by the entire mod team being unwilling to enforce the forum rules.

There are 2 sides to this.
People use the term "racist" all to easily.

You can say - "I don't like mass, uncontrolled immigration"

and sure as hell - someone will say " you're a racist"

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 4:01pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 3:52pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 3:48pm: I believe it's the moral duty of forums to allow everyone to have their say. If their arguments are false then they will brought down with logic not censorship. In theory, but you're assuming you're dealing with good-faith actors in a reasoned debate, which is rare in this place. And the use of outright racial slurs serves no purpose other than to push racism, condoned by the entire mod team being unwilling to enforce the forum rules. There are 2 sides to this. People use the term "racist" all to easily. You can say - "I don't like mass, uncontrolled immigration" and sure as hell - someone will say " you're a racist"

It's all about context.

I don't think anyone likes mass uncontrolled migration.

Which is why we don't have that.

And you can take issue with legal migration numbers too. 

Where it starts to get problematic is when all problems get exclusively blamed on immigration or the individual immigrants to the exclusion of all other factors.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 3:48pm:

I believe it's the moral duty of forums to allow everyone to have their say.

You idiot .... How many are banned or have been banned from your forum  :D :D :D :D

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 4:01pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 3:52pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 3:48pm: I believe it's the moral duty of forums to allow everyone to have their say. If their arguments are false then they will brought down with logic not censorship. In theory, but you're assuming you're dealing with good-faith actors in a reasoned debate, which is rare in this place. And the use of outright racial slurs serves no purpose other than to push racism, condoned by the entire mod team being unwilling to enforce the forum rules. There are 2 sides to this. People use the term "racist" all to easily. You can say - "I don't like mass, uncontrolled immigration" and sure as hell - someone will say " you're a racist" It's all about context. I don't think anyone likes mass uncontrolled migration. Which is why we don't have that. And you can take issue with legal migration numbers too.  Where it starts to get problematic is when all problems get exclusively blamed on immigration or the individual immigrants to the exclusion of all other factors.

That wasn't my point.

You get called a racist for almost anything these days.

John Smith wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 3:48pm: I believe it's the moral duty of forums to allow everyone to have their say. You idiot .... How many are banned or have been banned from your forum  :D :D :D :D

You wouldn't last on Whirlpool.
All you do is go around calling everyone a moron or an idiot.    ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 3:48pm:

I believe it's the moral duty of forums to allow everyone to have their say. If their arguments are false then they will brought down with logic not censorship.

That's a bit silly Bobby. There are lots of forums with a very narrow target audience and subject matter. They can restrict discussion however they like, and doing so no doubt makes many forums more useful.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:36pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 5:24pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 4:01pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 3:52pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 3:48pm: I believe it's the moral duty of forums to allow everyone to have their say. If their arguments are false then they will brought down with logic not censorship. In theory, but you're assuming you're dealing with good-faith actors in a reasoned debate, which is rare in this place. And the use of outright racial slurs serves no purpose other than to push racism, condoned by the entire mod team being unwilling to enforce the forum rules. There are 2 sides to this. People use the term "racist" all to easily. You can say - "I don't like mass, uncontrolled immigration" and sure as hell - someone will say " you're a racist" It's all about context. I don't think anyone likes mass uncontrolled migration. Which is why we don't have that. And you can take issue with legal migration numbers too.  Where it starts to get problematic is when all problems get exclusively blamed on immigration or the individual immigrants to the exclusion of all other factors. That wasn't my point. You get called a racist for almost anything these days.

Don't let the experience here cloud your judgment.

For most people called racist here, they say and advocate for racist things.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 5:28pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 3:48pm: I believe it's the moral duty of forums to allow everyone to have their say. You idiot .... How many are banned or have been banned from your forum  :D :D :D :D You wouldn't last on Whirlpool. All you do is go around calling everyone a moron or an idiot.    ::)

Unlike you,  I've never been banned at whirlpool. 
Now answer the question,  how many have you banned over the years?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif

John Smith wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 7:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 5:37pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 5:28pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 3:48pm: I believe it's the moral duty of forums to allow everyone to have their say. You idiot .... How many are banned or have been banned from your forum  :D :D :D :D You wouldn't last on Whirlpool. All you do is go around calling everyone a moron or an idiot.    ::) Unlike you,  I've never been banned at whirlpool.  Now answer the question,  how many have you banned over the years?

I was never banned from there either. Have been banned twice from Twitter—just used the other account I had created. My stalker there, using info Booby supplied to Dubyne has not been banned despite the doxxing and stalking.

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 3:48pm: I believe it's the moral duty of forums to allow everyone to have their say. If their arguments are false then they will brought down with logic not censorship. That's a bit silly Bobby. There are lots of forums with a very narrow target audience and subject matter. They can restrict discussion however they like, and doing so no doubt makes many forums more useful.

That's true.
Whirlpool should have stayed with only technical matters such
as how to fix computer problems not
ventured into the latest news and current affairs.
They can't handle the truth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvypKtPhRU0

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 8:54pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 6:35pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 3:48pm: I believe it's the moral duty of forums to allow everyone to have their say. If their arguments are false then they will brought down with logic not censorship. That's a bit silly Bobby. There are lots of forums with a very narrow target audience and subject matter. They can restrict discussion however they like, and doing so no doubt makes many forums more useful. That's true. Whirlpool should have stayed with only technical matters such as how to fix computer problems not ventured into the latest news and current affairs. They can't handle the truth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvypKtPhRU0

Their goal is to stick to the truth in a reasonable way.

No petty personal attacks, focus on the facts etc.  They don't platform bullshit pushed as fact.

I think that's why most people feel that it's censorship.  The truth and what you can support with facts and evidence matters there.

It doesn't here.  You can say what ever you like.

You can post a news story that say one thing, then claim it supports whatever belief you're trying to push even if it doesn't or entirely debunks it, then personally attack anyone who calls you out by simply reading what you posted.

And lob death threats too.

Plus the racial slurs.  A lot of people stick around because of the racial slurs and the freedom and support to use them.

Whirlpool is not for them.

Quote:

The truth and what you can support with facts and evidence matters there.

Not really. It is for asking for and sharing opinions on products. I've never seen anyone get asked to prove what they say.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 7:58am:

Their goal is to stick to the truth in a reasonable way. No petty personal attacks, focus on the facts etc.  They don't platform bullshit pushed as fact. I think that's why most people feel that it's censorship.  The truth and what you can support with facts and evidence matters there. It doesn't here.  You can say what ever you like. You can post a news story that say one thing, then claim it supports whatever belief you're trying to push even if it doesn't or entirely debunks it, then personally attack anyone who calls you out by simply reading what you posted. And lob death threats too. Plus the racial slurs.  A lot of people stick around because of the racial slurs and the freedom and support to use them. Whirlpool is not for them.

Name these racists on Ozpolitic -  out them.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 1:53pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 7:58am: Their goal is to stick to the truth in a reasonable way. No petty personal attacks, focus on the facts etc.  They don't platform bullshit pushed as fact. I think that's why most people feel that it's censorship.  The truth and what you can support with facts and evidence matters there. It doesn't here.  You can say what ever you like. You can post a news story that say one thing, then claim it supports whatever belief you're trying to push even if it doesn't or entirely debunks it, then personally attack anyone who calls you out by simply reading what you posted. And lob death threats too. Plus the racial slurs.  A lot of people stick around because of the racial slurs and the freedom and support to use them. Whirlpool is not for them. Name these racists on Ozpolitic -  out them.

Brian.

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 1:53pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 7:58am: Their goal is to stick to the truth in a reasonable way. No petty personal attacks, focus on the facts etc.  They don't platform bullshit pushed as fact. I think that's why most people feel that it's censorship.  The truth and what you can support with facts and evidence matters there. It doesn't here.  You can say what ever you like. You can post a news story that say one thing, then claim it supports whatever belief you're trying to push even if it doesn't or entirely debunks it, then personally attack anyone who calls you out by simply reading what you posted. And lob death threats too. Plus the racial slurs.  A lot of people stick around because of the racial slurs and the freedom and support to use them. Whirlpool is not for them. Name these racists on Ozpolitic -  out them. Brian.

;D



Is it racist to link to videos like this?

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/162/560/062/playable/692f5c04471a7c0c.mp4

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 1:53pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 7:58am: Their goal is to stick to the truth in a reasonable way. No petty personal attacks, focus on the facts etc.  They don't platform bullshit pushed as fact. I think that's why most people feel that it's censorship.  The truth and what you can support with facts and evidence matters there. It doesn't here.  You can say what ever you like. You can post a news story that say one thing, then claim it supports whatever belief you're trying to push even if it doesn't or entirely debunks it, then personally attack anyone who calls you out by simply reading what you posted. And lob death threats too. Plus the racial slurs.  A lot of people stick around because of the racial slurs and the freedom and support to use them. Whirlpool is not for them. Name these racists on Ozpolitic -  out them.

Freediver, Frank, Gordon et al.

You left out—Booby!

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 2:28pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 2:08pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 1:53pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 7:58am: Their goal is to stick to the truth in a reasonable way. No petty personal attacks, focus on the facts etc.  They don't platform bullshit pushed as fact. I think that's why most people feel that it's censorship.  The truth and what you can support with facts and evidence matters there. It doesn't here.  You can say what ever you like. You can post a news story that say one thing, then claim it supports whatever belief you're trying to push even if it doesn't or entirely debunks it, then personally attack anyone who calls you out by simply reading what you posted. And lob death threats too. Plus the racial slurs.  A lot of people stick around because of the racial slurs and the freedom and support to use them. Whirlpool is not for them. Name these racists on Ozpolitic -  out them. Brian. ;D Is it racist to link to videos like this? https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/162/560/062/playable/692f5c04471a7c0c.mp4

Also Aussie. He wants to kill 10 million Jews as part of his final solution for peace in the middle east.

freediver wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 8:40am:

Also Aussie. He wants to kill 10 million Jews as part of his final solution for peace in the middle east.

Does he? - wow - is he a Nazi?

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 8:51am:

freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:40am: Also Aussie. He wants to kill 10 million Jews as part of his final solution for peace in the middle east. Does he? - wow - is he a Nazi?

Not sure. He doesn't like to talk about it.

freediver wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 8:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:51am: freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:40am: Also Aussie. He wants to kill 10 million Jews as part of his final solution for peace in the middle east. Does he? - wow - is he a Nazi? Not sure. He doesn't like to talk about it.

So you made it up again?

Geez, what a thing to say!

John Smith wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 9:13am:

freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:57am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:51am: freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:40am: Also Aussie. He wants to kill 10 million Jews as part of his final solution for peace in the middle east. Does he? - wow - is he a Nazi? Not sure. He doesn't like to talk about it. So you made it up again?

No. He said he would be happy to kill 10 million Jews. It's the bit about whether he is a Nazi that he does not like to talk about.

freediver wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 9:21am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 9:13am: freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:57am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:51am: freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:40am: Also Aussie. He wants to kill 10 million Jews as part of his final solution for peace in the middle east. Does he? - wow - is he a Nazi? Not sure. He doesn't like to talk about it. So you made it up again? No. He said he would be happy to kill 10 million Jews. It's the bit about whether he is a Nazi that he does not like to talk about.

Quote me saying that.

Aussie wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 10:01am:

freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 9:21am: No. He said he would be happy to kill 10 million Jews. It's the bit about whether he is a Nazi that he does not like to talk about. Quote me saying that.

EXHIBIT A



Aussie wrote on May 4^th, 2018 at 9:29pm:

freediver wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 9:11pm: Aussie wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 9:09pm: freediver wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 9:04pm: So how many deaths on that battleground would it take to make you change your mind about this being a good idea for world peace? Would 1 million do it? Not my problem.  If an existing citizen of that artificially created State of Israel, after it is moved to Tasmania, elects to stay where they are.....and stateless.......that is their bed to lie in. How many times do you want me to say that before you actually 'get' it? How about ten million? Would you happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews in order to bring about your final solution for world peace? If ten million citizens (or even one) elect to stay in a land stateless, meaningless, a landscape .....after the State of Israel was moved......yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter. Horse/water.

Quote me saying this you Moron!


Quote:

He said he would be happy to kill 10 million Jews.

FD,

Quote:

Would you happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews

Aussie,

Quote:

yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter.

( Aussie wouldn't last long on Whirlpool   :-[    )

Quote me saying this you, Moron:


Quote:

He said he would be happy to kill 10 million Jews.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 10:54am:

FD, Quote: Would you happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews Aussie, [quote]yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter.

( Aussie wouldn't last long on Whirlpool   :-[    )[/quote]

Aussie has lasted years on the Yank forum that is also highly moderated, too much so for BO who got booted. YOU got banned from Whirlpool.

Aussie wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 11:03am:

Quote me saying this you, Moron: Quote: He said he would be happy to kill 10 million Jews.

You said it Aussie.
Now the jury must decide.

Guilty or not guilty.

Poll started.

You said it Aussie.
Now the jury must decide.

Guilty or not guilty  of being happy to kill 10 million Jews.

FD,

Quote:

Would you happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews

Aussie,

Quote:

yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter.

Aussie wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 11:03am:

Quote me saying this you, Moron: Quote: He said he would be happy to kill 10 million Jews.

I said that Aussie.

freediver wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 11:32am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 11:03am: Quote me saying this you, Moron: Quote: He said he would be happy to kill 10 million Jews. I said that Aussie.

Correct,  I did not say I would be happy to kill 10 million Jews.

Aussie wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 11:40am:

freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 11:32am: Aussie wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 11:03am: Quote me saying this you, Moron: Quote: He said he would be happy to kill 10 million Jews. I said that Aussie. Correct,  I did not say I would be happy to kill 10 million Jews.

Bullshit.

FD,

Quote:

Would you happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews

Aussie,

Quote:

yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter.

freediver wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 9:21am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 9:13am: freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:57am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:51am: freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:40am: Also Aussie. He wants to kill 10 million Jews as part of his final solution for peace in the middle east. Does he? - wow - is he a Nazi? Not sure. He doesn't like to talk about it. So you made it up again? No. He said he would be happy to kill 10 million Jews. It's the bit about whether he is a Nazi that he does not like to talk about.

No, you made it up. It's your modus operandi,  always pretending others have said something they didn't.

John Smith wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 11:54am:

freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 9:21am: John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 9:13am: freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:57am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:51am: freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:40am: Also Aussie. He wants to kill 10 million Jews as part of his final solution for peace in the middle east. Does he? - wow - is he a Nazi? Not sure. He doesn't like to talk about it. So you made it up again? No. He said he would be happy to kill 10 million Jews. It's the bit about whether he is a Nazi that he does not like to talk about. No, you made it up. It's your modus operandi,  always pretending others have said something they didn't.

Aussie did say it:


yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 12:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 11:54am: freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 9:21am: John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 9:13am: freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:57am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:51am: freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:40am: Also Aussie. He wants to kill 10 million Jews as part of his final solution for peace in the middle east. Does he? - wow - is he a Nazi? Not sure. He doesn't like to talk about it. So you made it up again? No. He said he would be happy to kill 10 million Jews. It's the bit about whether he is a Nazi that he does not like to talk about. No, you made it up. It's your modus operandi,  always pretending others have said something they didn't. Aussie did say it: yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter.

Your quote does not match what you pretended he said.

Aussie wrote on May 4^th, 2018 at 9:29pm:

freediver wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 9:11pm: Aussie wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 9:09pm: freediver wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 9:04pm: So how many deaths on that battleground would it take to make you change your mind about this being a good idea for world peace? Would 1 million do it? Not my problem.  If an existing citizen of that artificially created State of Israel, after it is moved to Tasmania, elects to stay where they are.....and stateless.......that is their bed to lie in. How many times do you want me to say that before you actually 'get' it? How about ten million? Would you happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews in order to bring about your final solution for world peace? If ten million citizens (or even one) elect to stay in a land stateless, meaningless, a landscape .....after the State of Israel was moved......yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter. Horse/water.

Quote where I said, I am happy to kill 10 million Jews, Moron # 2.

Aussie wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 3:41pm:

Quote where I said, I am happy to kill 10 million Jews, Moron # 2.

Not those exact words but so damn close it doesn't matter:

FD,

Quote:

Would you happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews

Aussie,

Quote:

yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter.

Anyway Aussie  -

are you an anti-Semite?

Are you a racist?

Are you a Nazi?

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 3:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 3:41pm: Quote where I said, I am happy to kill 10 million Jews, Moron # 2. Not those exact words but so damn close it doesn't matter: FD, Quote: Would you happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews Aussie, [quote]yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter.

Anyway Aussie  -

are you an anti-Semite?

Are you a racist?

Are you a Nazi?[/quote] 

Are you a moron?

Aussie wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 3:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 3:45pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 3:41pm: Quote where I said, I am happy to kill 10 million Jews, Moron # 2. Not those exact words but so damn close it doesn't matter: FD, Quote: Would you happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews Aussie, [quote]yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter. Anyway Aussie  - are you an anti-Semite? Are you a racist? Are you a Nazi?

 

Are you a moron?
[/quote]


No - I'm the Ozpolitic public prosecutor.

Now - answer the questions.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 3:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 3:51pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 3:45pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 3:41pm: Quote where I said, I am happy to kill 10 million Jews, Moron # 2. Not those exact words but so damn close it doesn't matter: FD, Quote: Would you happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews Aussie, [quote]yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter. Anyway Aussie  - are you an anti-Semite? Are you a racist? Are you a Nazi?   Are you a moron?

No - yes. I'm the Ozpolitic public prosecutor.

Now - answer the questions.[/quote]

Fixed it for you

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 10:54am:

FD, Quote: Would you happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews Aussie, [quote]yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter.

( Aussie wouldn't last long on Whirlpool   :-[    )[/quote]

That's hardly the same thing.

He's supporting people making a choice, not saying he'd kill them.

He's not even advocating for them to forcibly be there.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 6:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:54am: FD, Quote: Would you happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews Aussie, [quote]yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter. ( Aussie wouldn't last long on Whirlpool   :-[    )

That's hardly the same thing.

He's supporting people making a choice, not saying he'd kill them.

He's not even advocating for them to forcibly be there.[/quote]


But Aussie would happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews .

He said YES.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 6:31pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 6:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:54am: FD, Quote: Would you happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews Aussie, [quote]yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter. ( Aussie wouldn't last long on Whirlpool   :-[    ) That's hardly the same thing. He's supporting people making a choice, not saying he'd kill them. He's not even advocating for them to forcibly be there.

But Aussie would happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews .

He said YES.[/quote]

He also said yes, Bobby IS an idiot

No, not idiot, 'moron.'

Aussie wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 7:23pm:

No, not idiot, 'moron.'

https://www.ozpolitic.com/articles/logical-fallacies.html#ad%20hominem


ad hominem


"You are an idiot, therefore you are wrong."

An ad hominem (short for argumentum ad hominem) is a personal attack. It is by far the most common logical fallacy encountered in online forums. It carries the assumption that by discrediting your opponent, you are also discrediting their argument. However, this would lead to the absurd situation that an argument is correct if one person uses it, and false if another uses it. Inexperienced debaters often fall for this and feel the need to defend their reputation against a troll, otherwise it will invalidate the point they are trying to make in the eyes of others.

It is not a logical fallacy when applied to you, idiot! Bloody doxxer!

Aussie wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 11:03am:

Quote me saying this you, Moron: Quote: He said he would be happy to kill 10 million Jews.

Don't ask people to quote you somewhere on the forum of something you seem to deny writing. It is an invitation for people to say you did write something like that. This also provokes other posters to rumour that you had written it.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 11:19am:

Poll started. You said it Aussie. Now the jury must decide. Guilty or not guilty  of being happy to kill 10 million Jews.

In today's socio-political climate, typing this as a question might have this website receive a lot of backlash.

Where is Aussie when you need him?

I want to see him showing remorse.    :)

Bobby. wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 8:02am:

Where is Aussie when you need him? I want to see him showing remorse.    :)

I like this trend, can we start doing this for those who've been advocating for the genocide or segregation of Indigenous Australians?

Or do we not actually care and just want to go after Aussie?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 8:17am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 8:02am: Where is Aussie when you need him? I want to see him showing remorse.    :) I like this trend, can we start doing this for those who've been advocating for the genocide or segregation of Indigenous Australians? Or do we not actually care and just want to go after Aussie?

No one is going after Aussie -
we are helping him seek salvation.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 8:41am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 8:17am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 8:02am: Where is Aussie when you need him? I want to see him showing remorse.    :) I like this trend, can we start doing this for those who've been advocating for the genocide or segregation of Indigenous Australians? Or do we not actually care and just want to go after Aussie? No one is going after Aussie - we are helping him seek salvation.

Why only Aussie?

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 10:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 11:03am: Quote me saying this you, Moron: Quote: He said he would be happy to kill 10 million Jews. Don't ask people to quote you somewhere on the forum of something you seem to deny writing. It is an invitation for people to say you did write something like that. This also provokes other posters to rumour that you had written it.

Fact is I did not say it, and I don't give a flying flamingo what other posters gossip about.  I asked for a direct quote, knowing that it could never produced, because I never said that typical FD mendacious, out of context, cherry picking and isolating word/s sentences, misquoting.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 10:26am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 8:41am: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 8:17am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 8:02am: Where is Aussie when you need him? I want to see him showing remorse.    :) I like this trend, can we start doing this for those who've been advocating for the genocide or segregation of Indigenous Australians? Or do we not actually care and just want to go after Aussie? No one is going after Aussie - we are helping him seek salvation. Why only Aussie?

Your salvation is sought as well:


https://i.ibb.co/m8Zsg8R/A9864a8f7a7d52d9-1.jpg

Aussie wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 10:27am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:35pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 11:03am: Quote me saying this you, Moron: Quote: He said he would be happy to kill 10 million Jews. Don't ask people to quote you somewhere on the forum of something you seem to deny writing. It is an invitation for people to say you did write something like that. This also provokes other posters to rumour that you had written it. Fact is I did not say it, and I don't give a flying flamingo what other posters gossip about.  I asked for a direct quote, knowing that it could never produced, because I never said that typical FD mendacious, out of context, cherry picking and isolating word/s sentences, misquoting.

All you have to do when this sort of allegation takes place is to deny having said it. I could probably assume that Bobby is trying to lawyer you into a confession. Asking for proof that you did something wrong is similar to conceding that you have done something wrong. And the subject matter would be enough to have someone, who hocks up phlegm before he speaks, to write sternly worded letters to some ombudsman.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:05pm:

All you have to do when this sort of allegation takes place is to deny having said it. I could probably assume that Bobby is trying to lawyer you into a confession. Asking for proof that you did something wrong is similar to conceding that you have done something wrong. And the subject matter would be enough to have someone, who hocks up phlegm before he speaks, to write sternly worded letters to some ombudsman.

EXHIBIT A



Aussie wrote on May 4^th, 2018 at 9:29pm:

freediver wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 9:11pm: Aussie wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 9:09pm: freediver wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 9:04pm: So how many deaths on that battleground would it take to make you change your mind about this being a good idea for world peace? Would 1 million do it? Not my problem.  If an existing citizen of that artificially created State of Israel, after it is moved to Tasmania, elects to stay where they are.....and stateless.......that is their bed to lie in. How many times do you want me to say that before you actually 'get' it? How about ten million? Would you happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews in order to bring about your final solution for world peace? If ten million citizens (or even one) elect to stay in a land stateless, meaningless, a landscape .....after the State of Israel was moved......yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter. Horse/water.

Is Aussie calling himself a horse there?

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 7:03pm:

Is Aussie calling himself a horse there?

Dunno - he wrote  "Horse/water."


ummm -
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
How does that fit in to the topic?

Aussie:
Quote:

If ten million citizens (or even one) elect to stay in a land stateless, meaningless, a landscape .....after the State of Israel was moved......yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter. Horse/water.

Can you confirm or deny that this is what you said, Aussie? And if you did write that, can you explain it for a dummy like me to understand what was the context?

Bobby. wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 7:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:03pm: Is Aussie calling himself a horse there? Dunno - he wrote  "Horse/water." ummm - You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. How does that fit in to the topic?

Hes saying that some Jews are just plain stupid

John Smith wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 7:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:42pm: freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:03pm: Is Aussie calling himself a horse there? Dunno - he wrote  "Horse/water." ummm - You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. How does that fit in to the topic? Hes saying that some Jews are just plain stupid

OK - are you sure he wasn't on the VB?

Bobby. wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 7:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:44pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:42pm: freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:03pm: Is Aussie calling himself a horse there? Dunno - he wrote  "Horse/water." ummm - You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. How does that fit in to the topic? Hes saying that some Jews are just plain stupid OK - are you sure he wasn't on the VB?

Just like I'm not sure you're playing with some homos erectus. Highly likely,  but I'm not there so I can't be sure

John Smith wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 7:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:42pm: freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:03pm: Is Aussie calling himself a horse there? Dunno - he wrote  "Horse/water." ummm - You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. How does that fit in to the topic? Hes saying that some Jews are just plain stupid

For not wanting to get on Aussie's train?

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:44pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:42pm: freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:03pm: Is Aussie calling himself a horse there? Dunno - he wrote  "Horse/water." ummm - You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. How does that fit in to the topic? Hes saying that some Jews are just plain stupid For not wanting to get on Aussie's train?

Would Aussie offer them a free shower too?

Bobby. wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 9:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 9:24pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:44pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:42pm: freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:03pm: Is Aussie calling himself a horse there? Dunno - he wrote  "Horse/water." ummm - You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. How does that fit in to the topic? Hes saying that some Jews are just plain stupid For not wanting to get on Aussie's train? Would Aussie offer them a free shower too?

Are you referring to the Zyklon B type of shower?

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:44pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:42pm: freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:03pm: Is Aussie calling himself a horse there? Dunno - he wrote  "Horse/water." ummm - You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. How does that fit in to the topic? Hes saying that some Jews are just plain stupid For not wanting to get on Aussie's train?

Most likely genetics

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:44pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:42pm: freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:03pm: Is Aussie calling himself a horse there? Dunno - he wrote  "Horse/water." ummm - You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. How does that fit in to the topic? Hes saying that some Jews are just plain stupid For not wanting to get on Aussie's train?

How long have you been thinking of Aussie in a shower?

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 9:37pm: freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 9:24pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:44pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:42pm: freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:03pm: Is Aussie calling himself a horse there? Dunno - he wrote  "Horse/water." ummm - You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. How does that fit in to the topic? Hes saying that some Jews are just plain stupid For not wanting to get on Aussie's train? Would Aussie offer them a free shower too? Are you referring to the Zyklon B type of shower?

yeah - like the ones at Auschwitz.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 7:44pm:

Aussie: Quote: If ten million citizens (or even one) elect to stay in a land stateless, meaningless, a landscape .....after the State of Israel was moved......yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter. Horse/water. Can you confirm or deny that this is what you said, Aussie? And if you did write that, can you explain it for a dummy like me to understand what was the context?

No, get Bobby to show you the entire context.

Do you know how links work Aussie?

What difference do you think the context makes? Is there a context in which you think happily killing ten million Jews is OK by normal people?

Aussie wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 8:59am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:44pm: Aussie: Quote: If ten million citizens (or even one) elect to stay in a land stateless, meaningless, a landscape .....after the State of Israel was moved......yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter. Horse/water. Can you confirm or deny that this is what you said, Aussie? And if you did write that, can you explain it for a dummy like me to understand what was the context? No, get Bobby to show you the entire context.

I only need you to confirm or deny that you wrote this. It looks pretty bad, no matter the context of your previous post to that.

This is not a case of being taken out of context. You cannot do a Hilary Clinton, for example "I believe in White's supremacy" and have the context of the message misinterpreted. You have implicitly stated that people who refuse to move could be subjected to slaughter.

What is your actual argument?

How many times do I have to post the full text?


EXHIBIT A



Aussie wrote on May 4^th, 2018 at 9:29pm:

freediver wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 9:11pm: Aussie wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 9:09pm: freediver wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 9:04pm: So how many deaths on that battleground would it take to make you change your mind about this being a good idea for world peace? Would 1 million do it? Not my problem.  If an existing citizen of that artificially created State of Israel, after it is moved to Tasmania, elects to stay where they are.....and stateless.......that is their bed to lie in. How many times do you want me to say that before you actually 'get' it? How about ten million? Would you happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews in order to bring about your final solution for world peace? If ten million citizens (or even one) elect to stay in a land stateless, meaningless, a landscape .....after the State of Israel was moved......yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter. Horse/water.

If these people choose to stay there and meet this end because they do, isn't that their choice though?

I just find it hard to believe that many of those who would defend someone wanting to send the army in to kill all Indigenous Australians in Alice Springs or defend those advocating for segregation, concentration camps and the removal of all Indigenous people from Australia would now, all of a sudden find the notion of supporting a people's choice to stay in a location that is putting their lives at risk is a bridge too far.

Especially when they're the pull yourself up by your boot straps, personal responsibility crowd.

It seems more and more around here it's who is doing the talking that's the problem, not what's being said.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 12:58pm:

How many times do I have to post the full text? EXHIBIT A Aussie wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 9:29pm: freediver wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 9:11pm: Aussie wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 9:09pm: freediver wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 9:04pm: So how many deaths on that battleground would it take to make you change your mind about this being a good idea for world peace? Would 1 million do it? Not my problem.  If an existing citizen of that artificially created State of Israel, after it is moved to Tasmania, elects to stay where they are.....and stateless.......that is their bed to lie in. How many times do you want me to say that before you actually 'get' it? How about ten million? Would you happily precipitate the slaughter of ten million Jews in order to bring about your final solution for world peace? If ten million citizens (or even one) elect to stay in a land stateless, meaningless, a landscape .....after the State of Israel was moved......yes, they made their bed, even if it be slaughter. Horse/water.

It seems like a reasonable position.  Who is Aussie to tell these people what to do, if they've chosen to stay in a land that will put their lives at risk, they made their bed, horse to water etc.

What is the alternative?

Should they be forced to move? Forced to take actions they don't want to?

How about being forced to wear a mask, or forced into lockdown?  What about being forced to get a vaccine?

I thought forcing people to do things was bad?

Like I said, it seems more and more it's less about what is said, but who says it, at least when those who are complaining aren't being consistent and flip-flopping all over the place.

From what I understand, this was all over a hypothetical, of the state of Israel being moved to Tasmania and the people being supported there, rather than on the land that is currently disputed and likely to be in the top 2 frontrunners for the cause of WWIII.

The west should support the people, not the place?

Or have I got this all wrong?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 1:05pm:

It seems like a reasonable position.  Who is Aussie to tell these people what to do, if they've chosen to stay in a land that will put their lives at risk, they made their bed, horse to water etc. What is the alternative? Should they be forced to move? Forced to take actions they don't want to? How about being forced to wear a mask, or forced into lockdown?  What about being forced to get a vaccine? I thought forcing people to do things was bad? Like I said, it seems more and more it's less about what is said, but who says it, at least when those who are complaining aren't being consistent and flip-flopping all over the place. From what I understand, this was all over a hypothetical, of the state of Israel being moved to Tasmania and the people being supported there, rather than on the land that is currently disputed and likely to be in the top 2 frontrunners for the cause of WWIII. The west should support the people, not the place? Or have I got this all wrong?

The Jews were offered Madagascar but they declined  -
they wanted the holy lands - nothing less.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan

Maybe the Christians should take Israel again?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar


The Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon,
mainly known as the Knights Templar,
was a French military order of the Catholic faith,
and one of the wealthiest and most popular military orders in Western Christianity. They were founded c. 1119,
headquartered on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem,
and existed for nearly two centuries during the Middle Ages.

Officially endorsed by the Roman Catholic Church by such decrees as the papal bull Omne datum optimum of Pope Innocent II, the Templars became a favoured charity throughout Christendom and grew rapidly in membership and power. The Templar knights, in their distinctive white mantles with a red cross, were among the most skilled fighting units of the Crusades. They were prominent in Christian finance; non-combatant members of the order, who made up as much as 90% of their members,[2][3] managed a large economic infrastructure throughout Christendom.[4] They developed innovative financial techniques that were an early form of banking,[5][6] building a network of nearly 1,000 commanderies and fortifications across Europe and the Holy Land.[7]

Quote:

From what I understand, this was all over a hypothetical, of the state of Israel being moved to Tasmania

Yes.  I am moving the State of Israel, just as artificially as it was created in the late 40s by the West to solve the dilemma of what to do with all the displaced European Jews post WW2.


Quote:

and the people being supported there,

I am moving the State of Israel to Tasmania, and the people in the currently geographically situated State of Israel can choose between staying where they are, or moving with the State of Israel to Tasmania, where all the neighbours do NOT want to obliterate it.


Quote:

rather than on the land that is currently disputed and likely to be in the top 2 frontrunners for the cause of WWIII.

There ya go!


Quote:

The west should support the people, not the place? Or have I got this all wrong?

When the State of Israel moves to Tasmania, and the people who choose to go with it also move to Tasmania, there, in Tasmania, the State of (Tasmania) Israel and ALL the people there get ALL the support the State of Israel currently gets from the West, lock, stock and barrel.  I can't imagine any of the current Tasmanian 'natives' complaining.  The economy etc there now will go through the roof, instantly!

The people who choose to stay geographically where the former State of Israel artificially existed, surrounded by hostile neighbours in a Stateless area, will have to fend for themselves.

Tasmania is three times larger than the currently situated State of Israel.  Plenty of room.

Horse/water.

Aussie,

Quote:

When the State of Israel moves to Tasmania

Will Monk approve that?

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 2:12pm:

Aussie, Quote: When the State of Israel moves to Tasmania Will Monk approve that?

He'll have no choice, just like the locals in the late 40s had no choice when the State of Israel was plonked where it was plonked.

But I doubt neither he, nor any existing Tasmanian local would be anything other than absolutely delighted.  His and their wealth will go through the roof!

And, no downside.  Not one negative.

.

Aussie wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 2:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 2:12pm: Aussie, Quote: When the State of Israel moves to Tasmania Will Monk approve that? He'll have no choice, just like the locals in the late 40s had no choice when the State of Israel was plonked where it was plonked. But I doubt neither he, nor any existing Tasmanian local would be anything other than absolutely delighted.  His and their wealth will go through the roof! And, no downside.  Not one negative.

Monk lives too close to Antarctica.
he lives in the roaring 40s -  (he is at -43 degrees latitude) -
the vast circumpolar currents and winds that encircle the world in the Southern ocean.
Nowhere else in the world comes close to the harsh climate of the roaring 40s.
He lives there with a tropical dog called Socks.

Aussie wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 2:09pm:

Quote: From what I understand, this was all over a hypothetical, of the state of Israel being moved to Tasmania Yes.  I am moving the State of Israel, just as artificially as it was created in the late 40s by the West to solve the dilemma of what to do with all the displaced European Jews post WW2. [quote]and the people being supported there,

I am moving the State of Israel to Tasmania, and the people in the currently geographically situated State of Israel can choose between staying where they are, or moving with the State of Israel to Tasmania, where all the neighbours do NOT want to obliterate it.


Quote:

rather than on the land that is currently disputed and likely to be in the top 2 frontrunners for the cause of WWIII.

There ya go!


Quote:

The west should support the people, not the place? Or have I got this all wrong?

When the State of Israel moves to Tasmania, and the people who choose to go with it also move to Tasmania, there, in Tasmania, the State of (Tasmania) Israel and ALL the people there get ALL the support the State of Israel currently gets from the West, lock, stock and barrel.  I can't imagine any of the current Tasmanian 'natives' complaining.  The economy etc there now will go through the roof, instantly!

The people who choose to stay geographically where the former State of Israel artificially existed, surrounded by hostile neighbours in a Stateless area, will have to fend for themselves.

Tasmania is three times larger than the currently situated State of Israel.  Plenty of room.

Horse/water.[/quote]

So it has nothing to do with wanting to kill Jews, but instead, in this hypothetical, accepting the choice made by those who stay behind and their fate which they've chosen is their own?

Aussie wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 2:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 2:12pm: Aussie, Quote: When the State of Israel moves to Tasmania Will Monk approve that? He'll have no choice, just like the locals in the late 40s had no choice when the State of Israel was plonked where it was plonked. But I doubt neither he, nor any existing Tasmanian local would be anything other than absolutely delighted.  His and their wealth will go through the roof! And, no downside.  Not one negative.

Unfortunately, people  put "culture" above rationality, and Israelites are strongly culturally attached to the 'Wailing Wall' in Jerusalem

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 2:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 2:09pm: Quote: From what I understand, this was all over a hypothetical, of the state of Israel being moved to Tasmania Yes.  I am moving the State of Israel, just as artificially as it was created in the late 40s by the West to solve the dilemma of what to do with all the displaced European Jews post WW2. [quote]and the people being supported there, I am moving the State of Israel to Tasmania, and the people in the currently geographically situated State of Israel can choose between staying where they are, or moving with the State of Israel to Tasmania, where all the neighbours do NOT want to obliterate it. [quote]rather than on the land that is currently disputed and likely to be in the top 2 frontrunners for the cause of WWIII.

There ya go!


Quote:

The west should support the people, not the place? Or have I got this all wrong?

When the State of Israel moves to Tasmania, and the people who choose to go with it also move to Tasmania, there, in Tasmania, the State of (Tasmania) Israel and ALL the people there get ALL the support the State of Israel currently gets from the West, lock, stock and barrel.  I can't imagine any of the current Tasmanian 'natives' complaining.  The economy etc there now will go through the roof, instantly!

The people who choose to stay geographically where the former State of Israel artificially existed, surrounded by hostile neighbours in a Stateless area, will have to fend for themselves.

Tasmania is three times larger than the currently situated State of Israel.  Plenty of room.

Horse/water.[/quote]

So it has nothing to do with wanting to kill Jews, but instead, in this hypothetical, accepting the choice made by those who stay behind and their fate which they've chosen is their own?
[/quote]

Yes, and that is what I said, but the mendacious freediver (and the feckless moron Bobby) chose to totally mischaracterise what I said.  FD's doing so (deliberately mischaracterising what people actually have said) lead to the departure of Gandalf.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 2:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 2:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 2:12pm: Aussie, Quote: When the State of Israel moves to Tasmania Will Monk approve that? He'll have no choice, just like the locals in the late 40s had no choice when the State of Israel was plonked where it was plonked. But I doubt neither he, nor any existing Tasmanian local would be anything other than absolutely delighted.  His and their wealth will go through the roof! And, no downside.  Not one negative. Unfortunately, people  put "culture" above rationality, and Israelites are strongly culturally attached to the 'Wailing Wall' in Jerusalem

Really?

Okay, I'll bung a new wailing wall at the Salamanca Markets.  Means more dollars for the locals.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 2:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 2:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 2:12pm: Aussie, Quote: When the State of Israel moves to Tasmania Will Monk approve that? He'll have no choice, just like the locals in the late 40s had no choice when the State of Israel was plonked where it was plonked. But I doubt neither he, nor any existing Tasmanian local would be anything other than absolutely delighted.  His and their wealth will go through the roof! And, no downside.  Not one negative. Monk lives too close to Antarctica. he lives in the roaring 40s -  (he is at -43 degrees latitude) - the vast circumpolar currents and winds that encircle the world in the Southern ocean. Nowhere else in the world comes close to the harsh climate of the roaring 40s. He lives there with a tropical dog called Socks.

Will you stop smacking lying about where I live?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 2:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 2:09pm: Quote: From what I understand, this was all over a hypothetical, of the state of Israel being moved to Tasmania Yes.  I am moving the State of Israel, just as artificially as it was created in the late 40s by the West to solve the dilemma of what to do with all the displaced European Jews post WW2. [quote]and the people being supported there, I am moving the State of Israel to Tasmania, and the people in the currently geographically situated State of Israel can choose between staying where they are, or moving with the State of Israel to Tasmania, where all the neighbours do NOT want to obliterate it. [quote]rather than on the land that is currently disputed and likely to be in the top 2 frontrunners for the cause of WWIII.

There ya go!


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The west should support the people, not the place? Or have I got this all wrong?

When the State of Israel moves to Tasmania, and the people who choose to go with it also move to Tasmania, there, in Tasmania, the State of (Tasmania) Israel and ALL the people there get ALL the support the State of Israel currently gets from the West, lock, stock and barrel.  I can't imagine any of the current Tasmanian 'natives' complaining.  The economy etc there now will go through the roof, instantly!

The people who choose to stay geographically where the former State of Israel artificially existed, surrounded by hostile neighbours in a Stateless area, will have to fend for themselves.

Tasmania is three times larger than the currently situated State of Israel.  Plenty of room.

Horse/water.[/quote]

So it has nothing to do with wanting to kill Jews, but instead, in this hypothetical, accepting the choice made by those who stay behind and their fate which they've chosen is their own?
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It is hypothetical because Aussie will never get what he wants.

Just like a modern Nazi only "hypothetically" wants to build gas chambers.


Aussie wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 2:46pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 2:33pm: So it has nothing to do with wanting to kill Jews, but instead, in this hypothetical, accepting the choice made by those who stay behind and their fate which they've chosen is their own? Yes, and that is what I said, but the mendacious freediver (and the feckless moron Bobby) chose to totally mischaracterise what I said.  FD's doing so (deliberately mischaracterising what people actually have said) lead to the departure of Gandalf.

You want to eradicate the Jews from the middle east. 10 million of them dying in the process is just a meaningless technicality of your final solution.

I think Unsub is right—you are trying to find out where I live!

(The moron Booby I mean, not Sad.)

Come on people - it's time to vote - only 18 hours to go.

Is Aussie guilty or not guilty?

Bobby lives at 38°S. He is so close to the roaring forties that he feels the effects moreso than a sheltered by a mountainous plateau Jovial Monk at 40+°S

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 4:54pm:

Bobby lives at 38°S. He is so close to the roaring forties that he feels the effects moreso than a sheltered by a mountainous plateau Jovial Monk at 40+°S

Monk lives near Hobart - so he's about 43 degrees South.

Tassie is just a tiny dot in the vast Southern ocean -
it gets the full roaring 40s treatment.

You are an idiot, a liar and a doxxer, Booby.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 4:57pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 4:54pm: Bobby lives at 38°S. He is so close to the roaring forties that he feels the effects moreso than a sheltered by a mountainous plateau Jovial Monk at 40+°S Monk lives near Hobart - so he's about 43 degrees South. Tassie is just a tiny dot in the vast Southern ocean - it gets the full roaring 40s treatment.

Devonport to Hobart is a 280km drive by road. So, everywhere is nearby Hobart. I live near Emerald (270km west of here). I don't consider the weather conditions the same here as I do in Emerald. Should I call Emerald a tropical region because it sits just south of the Tropic of Capricorn?

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 5:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 4:57pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 4:54pm: Bobby lives at 38°S. He is so close to the roaring forties that he feels the effects moreso than a sheltered by a mountainous plateau Jovial Monk at 40+°S Monk lives near Hobart - so he's about 43 degrees South. Tassie is just a tiny dot in the vast Southern ocean - it gets the full roaring 40s treatment. Devonport to Hobart is a 280km drive by road. So, everywhere is nearby Hobart. I live near Emerald (270km west of here). I don't consider the weather conditions the same here as I do in Emerald. Should I call Emerald a tropical region because it sits just south of the Tropic of Capricorn?

There's little Tassie at 5 O'clock.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334780781/figure/fig1/AS:11431281251399489@1718219766856/Geography-of-the-Southern-Ocean-and-the-locations-of-regions-and-sectors-often-chosen-to.png