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Message started by Bobby. on Jun 11th, 2024 at 6:47am

Title: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by Bobby. on Jun 11th, 2024 at 6:47am
How Corporate Greed and Political Corruption Are COSTING AUSSIE'S BILLIONS!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAhF5oirM7k

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by Bobby. on Jun 11th, 2024 at 6:53am
https://federal.governmentcareer.com.au/news/gas-regimes-miss-billions

Analysts say Australia is effectively giving away more
than half of its gas reserves for free.






A new report by The Australia Institute shows multinational corporations are exporting liquefied natural gas (LNG) without paying any royalties.

This practice has substantial financial implications, as it involves a significant portion of the nation’s critical gas resources.

According to the Australian Government’s Future Gas Strategy, gas is deemed “critical” to the economy. However, the gas from six of the country’s ten LNG export facilities - comprising four in Western Australia and both in the Northern Territory - pays no royalties at either state or federal levels.

These royalty-free operations account for 56 per cent of Australia’s LNG export capacity.

The financial impact is enormous. Over the past four years, the total value of LNG exports is estimated at $265 billion.

Out of this, LNG produced from royalty-free gas was valued at $149 billion.
Essentially, Australia has given away gas worth $149 billion
to these companies without any financial return.


The Western Australian facilities alone contributed to $111 billion of this total.

The Australia Institute highlights the disparity in contributions from the gas industry compared to other sectors.

For instance, in the financial year 2020-21, major oil and gas corporations like Woodside, Exxon, Shell, Chevron, Inpex, and APLNG reported a collective income of $34 billion but paid no income tax. Despite a revenue surge to $56.3 billion in 2021-22, only $454 million was paid in company taxes.

By contrast, other resource sectors such as iron ore contribute significantly more.

The iron ore industry paid over $10 billion in royalties to the Western Australian Government alone in 2021-22.

International comparisons paint a stark picture too. Qatar, which produces 50 per cent more oil and gas than Australia, receives six times more in government revenue from its oil and gas industry. Norway, exporting less gas but more oil, expects tax revenue from its oil and gas sector to reach an astounding AU$127 billion in 2023 alone.

The Australia Institute suggests that the billions of dollars in forgone revenue could be better utilised.

These funds could be channelled into a sovereign wealth fund similar to Norway’s or invested in enhancing public infrastructure such as schools, hospitals, and renewable energy projects, thereby increasing living standards and productivity across Australia.

To address this issue, the experts recommend a comprehensive inquiry into the management of Australia’s gas resources, and the imposition of royalties on all gas produced in Australia.

While the gas industry reaps enormous profits, the Australian community sees little return from its non-renewable resources.

The potential benefits from proper management and fair taxation of these resources could significantly enhance national wealth and public services, promoting a more equitable distribution of Australia’s natural resource wealth.

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 11th, 2024 at 9:58am
There is an unofficial tax on resources. It is imposed out of public view and scrutiny on corporations and goes straight into the pockets of politicians and powerful officials.

The public is misinformed on resource corporations so that the cash flow to the dishonorable, unworthy recipients is not exposed.

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by John Smith on Jun 11th, 2024 at 10:00am
They need to nationalise all of our minerals

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by lee on Jun 11th, 2024 at 12:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 6:53am:
For instance, in the financial year 2020-21, major oil and gas corporations like Woodside, Exxon, Shell, Chevron, Inpex, and APLNG reported a collective income of $34 billion but paid no income tax. Despite a revenue surge to $56.3 billion in 2021-22, only $454 million was paid in company taxes.



You do realise taxes come from profits? It costs billions for a new well.


Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by lee on Jun 11th, 2024 at 12:39pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 10:00am:
They need to nationalise all of our minerals


And so Government should accept sovereign risk? Dry wells etc?

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 11th, 2024 at 12:49pm
Imagine if Australia had double the oil reserves of Saudi Arabia. We would have the Americans rock up to Australia and simply ask us for the oil. No need to conduct an expensive war for the sake of give us our 'freedom'.

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by Bobby. on Jun 11th, 2024 at 1:13pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 12:49pm:
Imagine if Australia had double the oil reserves of Saudi Arabia. We would have the Americans rock up to Australia and simply ask us for the oil. No need to conduct an expensive war for the sake of give us our 'freedom'.



The Australian Govts are dickheads -
they give away our wealth to multi national companies
and heavily tax the poorest people.

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 11th, 2024 at 1:43pm
I'm not heavily taxed.

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by Bobby. on Jun 11th, 2024 at 2:04pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 1:43pm:
I'm not heavily taxed.



Everyone pays - and we pay more than we should.

Imagine if  $149 billion was taken off our tax bills?


Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 11th, 2024 at 2:08pm

lee wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 12:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 6:53am:
For instance, in the financial year 2020-21, major oil and gas corporations like Woodside, Exxon, Shell, Chevron, Inpex, and APLNG reported a collective income of $34 billion but paid no income tax. Despite a revenue surge to $56.3 billion in 2021-22, only $454 million was paid in company taxes.



You do realise taxes come from profits? It costs billions for a new well.



It costs a lot less to own a politician who can deliver public money for a new well.

A new well does not cost $billions. 10s of $ million is the max.

If new wells cost $billions each, all of the civilizations would be using donkeys for transport.

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by lee on Jun 11th, 2024 at 2:43pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 2:08pm:
If new wells cost $billions each, all of the civilizations would be using donkeys for transport.


So you don't understand the power of fuel vs donkeys? Why am I not surprised? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://corporate.exxonmobil.com/-/media/global/files/annual-report/2022-financial-and-operating-data---final.pdf

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by John Smith on Jun 11th, 2024 at 7:51pm

lee wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 12:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 10:00am:
They need to nationalise all of our minerals


And so Government should accept sovereign risk? Dry wells etc?


Why would they?  :D

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by lee on Jun 11th, 2024 at 8:12pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
Why would they?



So they will only nationalise once it proves profitable? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by John Smith on Jun 11th, 2024 at 10:24pm

lee wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 8:12pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
Why would they?



So they will only nationalise once it proves profitable? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Copy Norway's model if that'll help you Lee. I know you struggle.

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by lee on Jun 12th, 2024 at 12:48pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 10:24pm:
Copy Norway's model if that'll help you Lee.



Oh only when concessions expire. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And you of course "know" when the concessions expire? ;)

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 12th, 2024 at 2:23pm
Uncle Sam thanks Australia for its generosity.

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by John Smith on Jun 12th, 2024 at 6:04pm

lee wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 12:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 10:24pm:
Copy Norway's model if that'll help you Lee.



Oh only when concessions expire. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And you of course "know" when the concessions expire? ;)


You realise that you are retarded, right?

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by lee on Jun 12th, 2024 at 6:06pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 6:04pm:
You realise that you are retarded, right?


Is that supposed to be a great comeback? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by John Smith on Jun 12th, 2024 at 6:11pm

lee wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 6:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 6:04pm:
You realise that you are retarded, right?


Is that supposed to be a great comeback? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


No, it's a realisation. All this time I thought you were somewhat rational, but it turns out you're an absolute retard


Moderator comment:

Stop your abuse.

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2024 at 6:16pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 2:23pm:
Uncle Sam thanks Australia for its generosity.



Who do we give the gas to?

Japan?, China?

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by lee on Jun 12th, 2024 at 7:06pm
Poor Guido. Just can't help himself. Doesn't even know about Australia's "concessions". ;)

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by John Smith on Jun 12th, 2024 at 7:30pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 6:11pm:

lee wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 6:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 6:04pm:
You realise that you are retarded, right?


Is that supposed to be a great comeback? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


No, it's a realisation. All this time I thought you were somewhat rational, but it turns out you're an absolute retard


Moderator comment:

Stop your abuse.



What's the matter idiot,  you have no rules about diagnosing people.  Only Aussies board does.  My comment isn't abuse, it's a diagnosis

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2024 at 7:35pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 7:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 6:11pm:

lee wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 6:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 6:04pm:
You realise that you are retarded, right?


Is that supposed to be a great comeback? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


No, it's a realisation. All this time I thought you were somewhat rational, but it turns out you're an absolute retard


Moderator comment:

Stop your abuse.



What's the matter idiot,  you have no rules about diagnosing people.  Only Aussies board does.  My comment isn't abuse, it's a diagnosis



You have ASPD so you can't help it.   ::)

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by lee on Jun 12th, 2024 at 7:40pm
"Norway plans to nationalise gas pipelines when concessions expire"

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/norway-plans-take-ownership-most-gas-pipelines-2028-2023-04-28/

Statoil a Norway partly privatised company. So not really nationalised at all.

"Although Statoil was partly privatised in 2001, the core elements of the model regulating the Norwegian oil sector are intact. The model has been reformed, but it still provides the state with a dominant role both in regulating and operating the Norwegian oil sector. "

https://www.sv.uio.no/arena/english/research/publications/arena-working-papers/2001-2010/2002/wp02_34.htm

Socialism underpinned by capitalism. ::)

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by John Smith on Jun 12th, 2024 at 10:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 7:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 7:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 6:11pm:

lee wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 6:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 6:04pm:
You realise that you are retarded, right?


Is that supposed to be a great comeback? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


No, it's a realisation. All this time I thought you were somewhat rational, but it turns out you're an absolute retard


Moderator comment:

Stop your abuse.



What's the matter idiot,  you have no rules about diagnosing people.  Only Aussies board does.  My comment isn't abuse, it's a diagnosis



You have ASPD so you can't help it.   ::)


Anti stupid people disorder? Yes, that's why I don't like you or lee

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2024 at 10:34pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 10:30pm:
Anti stupid people disorder? Yes, that's why I don't like you or lee


ASPD  -


https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1617167598/0#0


Antisocial Personality Disorder

Antisocial personality disorder, like other personality disorders, is a longstanding pattern of behavior and experience that impairs functioning and causes distress.

By definition, people with antisocial personality disorder don't follow society's norms, are deceitful and intimidating in relationships, and are inconsiderate of the rights of others.
People with this type of personality may take part in criminal activity. But if they do, they are not sorry for their hurtful deeds. They can be impulsive, reckless and sometimes violent. This disorder is far more common and more apparent in men than women.

People with antisocial personality disorder generally do not value "playing by the rules." They do so only if they are threatened with punishment.

This attitude leads to a tendency to exploit others. They take advantage of the fairness or softheartedness of others, and they feel indifferent toward or even contemptuous of their victims.

A person with this disorder has little, if any, ability to be intimate with another person. Any lasting relationships are likely to involve some degree of abuse or neglect.

Title: Re: Australia gives away $149 billion in free gas
Post by Bobby. on Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:35pm

I reckon we could have changed over to 90% of vehicles running on our own gas
if we would have put our minds to it.
Instead we closed petrol refineries and imported petrol.
We could have been an energy independent country.
The politicians are all traitors - they don't act in our best interests.
They are acting for foreign entities.
What should the penalty be for a traitor?

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