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Message started by Bobby. on Jun 8th, 2024 at 2:43pm

Title: More CO2 better?
Post by Bobby. on Jun 8th, 2024 at 2:43pm

Apparently more CO2 would be better for the world -
CO2 was much higher in the distant past -
at least according to this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLnQo8l-BHc


Title: Re: More CO2 better?
Post by Bobby. on Jun 8th, 2024 at 2:44pm

However -

There is no doubt about it -
we shouldn't be pumping billion of tons of CO2, soot and methane into the atmosphere.
I was hoping that Thorium molten salt reactors would be the answer -
or maybe fusion reactors -
or maybe drilling deep holes into the Earth's crust for geothermal energy -
but there seems to be too many problems that scientists have not overcome yet.
In the meantime Australia's carbon footprint is tiny compared
to countries like China.
Look at this table of who is building coal fired power stations:


Title: Re: More CO2 better?
Post by lee on Jun 8th, 2024 at 3:19pm
Methane apparently Global Warming potential of 86 times CO2. But that is predicated on equal volumes of Methane and CO2. Meanwhile CO2  - 520ppm (million) and Methane measured in parts per billion. Also methane is measured in labs in DRY Air, something that is not available in the atmosphere. Water vapour completely masks methane, which decomposes rapidly.

"Methane is reported as a “dry air mole fraction”, defined as the number of molecules of methane divided by the total number of molecules in the sample, after water vapor has been removed. "

https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends_ch4/

https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-atmospheric-concentrations-greenhouse-gases

Title: Re: More CO2 better?
Post by Bobby. on Jun 9th, 2024 at 9:04pm

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/jun/08/peter-dutton-accused-of-trying-to-rip-up-australias-commitment-to-paris-climate-agreement

Peter Dutton accused of trying to ‘rip up’ Australia’s commitment to Paris climate agreement

Opposition leader reportedly told News Corp he would oppose the legislated 2030 emissions target – a 43% cut compared with 2005 levels – at the next election


Peter Dutton has been accused of planning to break Australia’s commitment to the landmark Paris climate agreement after he said he would reject the country’s 2030 greenhouse gas reduction target.

The opposition leader reportedly told the Weekend Australian that he would oppose the legislated 2030 emissions target – a 43% cut compared with 2005 levels – at the next election but remain committed to reaching net zero emissions by 2050.

Dutton also reportedly conceded that the Coalition’s commitment to introduce nuclear power in Australia would not lead to plants being built before 2040, a point made by experts, and critics who have accused the opposition of planning to delay action to address the climate crisis.
   
The opposition leader said he would do more to promote the use of gas, a fossil fuel. He was quoted as saying there was “no sense in signing up to targets you don’t have any prospect of achieving”.

The News Corp story did not mention departmental projections that last year suggested the country was likely to make a 42% cut by 2030 based on an assessment of existing and announced policies. The government said it showed the 43% target was within reach.

Climate diplomacy experts said Dutton’s position could break Australia’s 2015 commitment to the Paris agreement, under which nearly 200 countries said they would aim to limit global heating to well below 2C and attempt to limit it to 1.5C above preindustrial levels.

The Paris deal, agreed with the Coalition was in power, says countries will progressively increase their commitments, and that pledges will reflect a nation’s “highest possible ambition”.
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Erwin Jackson, the policy director with the Investor Group on Climate Change and an observer at international climate negotiations since the 1990s, said the Paris agreement was “absolutely clear” that countries could not backslide on emissions targets.



Title: Re: More CO2 better?
Post by Bobby. on Jun 9th, 2024 at 9:05pm

WOW!! Australian party vows to LEAVE Paris Agreement!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKsxnWla6Bc


Title: Re: More CO2 better?
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 9th, 2024 at 9:16pm
Trees also covered much of the Earth, too, Bobby.

Title: Re: More CO2 better?
Post by Ajax on Jun 9th, 2024 at 11:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 9:05pm:
WOW!! Australian party vows to LEAVE Paris Agreement!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKsxnWla6Bc


He has my vote.

Anthropogenic Global warming is a myth and will be used as the vehicle to usher in communism to the masses.

Yes we contribute but now where near what those stupid computer models are saying.

I feel sorry for the youth, they are headed to serfdom with their own applause.

Title: Re: More CO2 better?
Post by Bobby. on Jun 10th, 2024 at 8:37pm
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