This claim - that Israel is deliberately targeting women and children - has become something of a mindless chant from our racists here lately. As far as I can tell, not a single piece of evidence has been presented to support the claim. It appears to follow 'logically' from the fact that they are Jewish, every time a civilian gets killed in the war - a war which Hamas is deliberately dragging into the most heavily populated areas of Gaza.

This is happening in at least a dozen threads. The people doing the chanting are:

LTYC
Aussie
John Smith
Greg
buzzanddidj

There are plenty of other fairly absurd conspiracy theories also getting around. It seems that as soon as Jews are involved, a surprising number of people are gullible enough to believe anything they read on the internet. Some examples:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1706934335

This can add a few more people to the list:
Mothra
wombatwoody
thegreatdivide
dnarever

Thanks for the acknowledgment of my position.

Israeli Jews are committing mass murder and genocide against children and women of Palestine.

Israeli Jews don't want to fight Hamas freedom fighters because they shoot back at Israeli Jews.

Israeli Jews are deliberately murdering children and women.

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freediver wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 12:30pm:

This claim - that Israel is deliberately targeting women and children - has become something of a mindless chant from our racists here lately. As far as I can tell, not a single piece of evidence has been presented to support the claim. It appears to follow 'logically' from the fact that they are Jewish, every time a civilian gets killed in the war - a war which Hamas is deliberately dragging into the most heavily populated areas of Gaza. This is happening in at least a dozen threads. The people doing the chanting are: LTYC Aussie John Smith Greg buzzanddidj There are plenty of other fairly absurd conspiracy theories also getting around. It seems that as soon as Jews are involved, a surprising number of people are gullible enough to believe anything they read on the internet. Some examples: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1706934335 This can add a few more people to the list: Mothra wombatwoody

Would you buy a used war from any of those people?  I still utterly fail to see why so many have such a range of 'issues' with Jewish people... it astounds me that they think not one thing of the brutal massacre of such people but whine endlessly when the attackers are hunted down and put their own people in the way.  It's just one step away from putting all Jewish people in ghettoes.  Pure madness.

I have Jewish ancestry, but know nothing about it really - I don't hate anyone, even Muslims as a group - just their assholes among them...  if the head dress fits ...... well - pack your bags and go back to where the Israelis can get you .... PLEASE!!

LTYC is nothing but a troll - he actually thinks this is fun.  Just ignore him... he'll come back at that one soon.... he's terrified that I've got his number..... unlike FTLW though - we don't yet have his address, photo and full name...... he's a very low priority target... 

Gon'mo for him one day... I like the one on the left - boundaries still to be fully organised along with barriers to escape from Abestine - check points for those willing to work or study - chance to bathe in the ocean with the crocs....

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Ohh look, the IDF's stooge is at it again ::) ::) ::)

Do you have any evidence to back up your conspiracy theories John, other than the fact that they are Jewish?

freediver wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 7:57am:

Do you have any evidence to back up your conspiracy theories John, other than the fact that they are Jewish?

35000 dead, mostly women and children, not evidence enough FD? How many have to die before you pull your head out of your arse?

Don't be shy now, give a number of how many have to die before you stop pretending it's all accidental? 100000? 500000? all of them?

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35000 dead, mostly women and children, not evidence enough FD?

No it isn't John. That number comes from Hamas, is not verified, and includes combatants. It is not evidence of anything, other than that there is another war.

Hamas' strategy is to start wars they have no hope of winning, then deliberately drag those wars into the most heavily populated areas of Gaza. You do not need another Jewish conspiracy theory to explain the outcome, which is why only terrorists and internet racists feel the need to invent them or take them seriously.

Why are you so gullible?

freediver wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 8:10am:

No it isn't John.

Absolutely it is


freediver wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 8:10am:

That number comes from Hamas, is not verified

Bullshit. Human Rights watch has verified the numbers.

Now that we've got that out of the way FD, how many have to die before you decide it's not accidental? What will it take? Do you really have to see every last palestinain dead before you'll admit it's genocide?

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Human Rights watch has verified the numbers.

Can you provide a link and a quote?


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how many have to die before you decide it's not accidental?

I agree with you that it is not an accident. It is a deliberate and intentional strategy by Hamas to repeatedly start wars they have no hope of winning then drag those wars into the most heavily populated areas of Gaza. They welcome death.

Hamas chief reportedly looks forward to high civilian death toll in Rafah

https://www.thejc.com/news/world/hamas-chief-reportedly-looks-forward-to-high-civilian-death-toll-in-rafah-p7ky3m2j


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Hamas chief Yahya Sinwar has sent a message to exiled members of the terror group saying he would welcome an Israeli assault on Rafah because the high number of civilian casualties would intensify worldwide pressure on Israel, a report from the Wall Street Journal said on Thursday.

Hamas Covenant 1988

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp


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Article Eight: Allah is its target, the Prophet is its model, the Koran its constitution: Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.

John Smith wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 9:48pm:

Quote: What if they hide behind their mothers skirts while lobbing rockets at Israel? You don't take the shot.  No one said it was supposed to be easy.

Do you ever feel like a witless puppet for the terrorists John?

freediver wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 8:25am:

Can you provide a link and a quote?

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Critics often criticise the MoH for being administered by Hamas, implying that its figures are not to be trusted. However, the World Health Organization (WHO) stated on Tuesday that it has full confidence in the MoH’s numbers. MoH statistics have also been verified by Human Rights Watch and used by the United States Department of State in past conflicts and as recently as March 2023, despite US President Joe Biden questioning those numbers without evidence.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/14/has-the-un-really-said-fewer-people-were-killed-by-israel-in-gaza

freediver wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 8:25am:

It is a deliberate and intentional strategy by Hamas to repeatedly start wars they have no hope of winning then drag those wars into the most heavily populated areas of Gaza. They welcome death.

What a load of bollocks. Do you beat your family members because they made you do it?  :D :D

John Smith wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 8:39am:

freediver wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 8:25am: Can you provide a link and a quote? Quote: Critics often criticise the MoH for being administered by Hamas, implying that its figures are not to be trusted. However, the World Health Organization (WHO) stated on Tuesday that it has full confidence in the MoH’s numbers. MoH statistics have also been verified by Human Rights Watch and used by the United States Department of State in past conflicts and as recently as March 2023, despite US President Joe Biden questioning those numbers without evidence. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/14/has-the-un-really-said-fewer-people-were-killed-by-israel-in-gaza

According to that article, you were lying. Again.

freediver wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 8:42am:

John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 8:39am: freediver wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 8:25am: Can you provide a link and a quote? Quote: Critics often criticise the MoH for being administered by Hamas, implying that its figures are not to be trusted. However, the World Health Organization (WHO) stated on Tuesday that it has full confidence in the MoH’s numbers. MoH statistics have also been verified by Human Rights Watch and used by the United States Department of State in past conflicts and as recently as March 2023, despite US President Joe Biden questioning those numbers without evidence. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/14/has-the-un-really-said-fewer-people-were-killed-by-israel-in-gaza According to that article, you were lying. Again.

Whats the matter fd? Did you just realise how gullible you are? How much you've been played for a fool by the IDF?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Even when I start a thread about internet racists spreading lies about Jews on behalf of a terrorist organisation, you feel compelled to respond with more lies about the Jews. And apparently you think it is funny.

Why is that John?

;D ;D ;D

go away FD, I've already shown you up for the absolute fool you are. Pretending you still have a clue isn't going to help you.

I wonder if Greg also thinks it is funny to spread these lies about Jews.

John Smith wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 8:43am:

freediver wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 8:42am: John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 8:39am: freediver wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 8:25am: Can you provide a link and a quote? Quote: Critics often criticise the MoH for being administered by Hamas, implying that its figures are not to be trusted. However, the World Health Organization (WHO) stated on Tuesday that it has full confidence in the MoH’s numbers. MoH statistics have also been verified by Human Rights Watch and used by the United States Department of State in past conflicts and as recently as March 2023, despite US President Joe Biden questioning those numbers without evidence. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/14/has-the-un-really-said-fewer-people-were-killed-by-israel-in-gaza According to that article, you were lying. Again. Whats the matter fd? Did you just realise how gullible you are? How much you've been played for a fool by the IDF?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

There is nothing about "deliberately" here.


On the other hand, every murder and rape by Gazans on 7 October was deliberate.

John Smith wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 9:48pm:

Quote: What if they hide behind their mothers skirts while lobbing rockets at Israel? You don't take the shot.  No one said it was supposed to be easy.

John have you ever made demands this stupid of anyone who was not Jewish?

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There is nothing about "deliberately" here.

So you think they are that incompetent that they accidentally killed over 35000, mostly women and children?

You must be confusing them with the Danes.

What makes you think it is mostly women and children John?

freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 6:53pm:

What makes you think it is mostly women and children John?

the hamas "ministry of health" :D :D :D :D :D

freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 6:53pm:

What makes you think it is mostly women and children John?

Unlike you,  I've read reports on the subject

John Smith wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 8:59pm:

freediver wrote on May 31st, 2024 at 6:53pm: What makes you think it is mostly women and children John? Unlike you,  I've read reports on the subject

What kind of "reports"?

I read the article you provided. According to it, you are lying. Again. About the Jews.

freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 9:48pm:

John Smith wrote on May 31st, 2024 at 8:59pm: freediver wrote on May 31st, 2024 at 6:53pm: What makes you think it is mostly women and children John? Unlike you,  I've read reports on the subject What kind of "reports"? I read the article you provided. According to it, you are lying. Again. About the Jews.

You didn't read shit, or don't understand what you are reading.  Either way it's your problem. 

John Smith wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 8:59pm:

freediver wrote on May 31st, 2024 at 6:53pm: What makes you think it is mostly women and children John? Unlike you,  I've read reports on the subject

  ;D ;D :D :D

You sound like Bbwian.

Israeli political and military leaders stated in public that they wanted to murder all Palestinians.

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Frank wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 10:40pm:

John Smith wrote on May 31st, 2024 at 8:59pm: freediver wrote on May 31st, 2024 at 6:53pm: What makes you think it is mostly women and children John? Unlike you,  I've read reports on the subject   ;D ;D :D :D You sound like Bbwian.

Yes, I did notice that he often makes you look like a fool too

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 10:49pm:

Israeli political and military leaders stated in public that they wanted to murder all Palestinians.

Fd will get excited at that picture

John Smith wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 10:01pm:

freediver wrote on May 31st, 2024 at 9:48pm: John Smith wrote on May 31st, 2024 at 8:59pm: freediver wrote on May 31st, 2024 at 6:53pm: What makes you think it is mostly women and children John? Unlike you,  I've read reports on the subject What kind of "reports"? I read the article you provided. According to it, you are lying. Again. About the Jews. You didn't read shit, or don't understand what you are reading.  Either way it's your problem.

What kind of "reports" John? Can you quote them?

Why do you feel compelled to spread these lies about the Jews on behalf of a terrorist organisation?

freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 7:40am:

What kind of "reports" John? Can you quote them?

various news articles. You can find them just as easily as I can

Israeli Jewish leaders publicly stated they intended to murder every Palestinian.

They are murdering children, babies, geriatrics, paraplegics, women, and everybody who doesn't have the means to shoot back.

Israeli Jews have destroyed every hospital, building, University, school, bakery, Mosque, Church, and every building of community importance.

Israeli Jews have even murdered Israeli Jews and the parents of the victims are too fearful to complain or protest.

Its mass murder, its Genocide, its the absence of humanity in Israeli Jews.

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Israeli Jewish leaders publicly stated they intended to murder every Palestinian.

Can you quote them?

freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 10:53am:

Quote: Israeli Jewish leaders publicly stated they intended to murder every Palestinian. Can you quote them?

By the way, Israeli Jews are now being investigated for use of systematic rape against Palestinians since 1948 and before.

There are a few below. The Amelek reference is a historical reference where the Jews committed genocide against another ethnic group.

Please don't thank me.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-south-africa-genocide-hate-speech-97a9e4a84a3a6bebeddfb80f8a030724


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With the ground offensive getting underway in late October, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu cited the Bible in a televised address: “You must remember what Amalek has done to you.” Amalekites were persecutors of the biblical Israelites, and a biblical commandment says they must be destroyed. South Africa argued that the remarks showed Israel’s intent to commit genocide against Palestinians. Netanyahu denied that this week and said he was referring to Amalek as a way to describe Hamas and its attack. Two days after the Hamas attack, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said Israel was “fighting human animals,” in announcing a complete siege on Gaza. Deputy Knesset speaker Nissim Vaturi from the ruling Likud party wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter, that Israelis had one common goal, “erasing the Gaza Strip from the face of the earth.” Israeli Heritage Minister Amichay Eliyahu, from the far-right Jewish Power party, suggested that Israel drop a nuclear bomb on Gaza and said there were “no uninvolved civilians” in the territory. Israeli soldiers caught on video made similar remarks as they sang and danced in the early days of Israel’s ground offensive. On Oct. 7, a journalist wrote on X that Gaza should become “a slaughterhouse” if the roughly 250 people taken hostage by Hamas were not returned. Military officials and two Israeli pop singers are also cited by South Africa for making inflammatory comments. “The language of systemic dehumanization is evident here,” lawyer Tembeka Ngcukaitobi said for South Africa in remarks before the court. “Genocidal utterances are therefore not out in the fringes. They are embodied in state policy.”

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Israeli Jewish leaders publicly stated they intended to murder every Palestinian.

So they never actually said this?

freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 12:00pm:

Quote: Israeli Jewish leaders publicly stated they intended to murder every Palestinian. So they never actually said this?

They did say that however, I am not prepared to spend countless hours searching for quotes some of which have probably been removed because of censorship of media.

FleaDriver knows they said this and he knows that is their intention if they could get away with it.

Israeli Jews are committing mass murder and genocide against Palestinians and have murdered other Israeli Jews with impunity.

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Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 12:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 12:00pm: Quote: Israeli Jewish leaders publicly stated they intended to murder every Palestinian. So they never actually said this? They did say that however, I am not prepared to spend countless hours searching for quotes some of which have probably been removed because of censorship of media. FleaDriver knows they said this and he knows that is their intention if they could get away with it. Israeli Jews are committing mass murder and genocide against Palestinians and have murdered other Israeli Jews with impunity.

Sounds like a Jewish conspiracy. Stating things publicly then covering it up with trickery.

If that is really their intention, why do you think they haven't done it?

Here are some victims:

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Why do you think they stated it publicly if their intention was to cover up their secret agenda? Do you think it is a grand conspiracy to make internet racists look stupid?

If their intention really is to murder every Palestinian, why do you think they haven't done it?

freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 1:26pm:

Why do you think they stated it publicly if their intention was to cover up their secret agenda? Do you think it is a grand conspiracy to make internet racists look stupid? If their intention really is to murder every Palestinian, why do you think they haven't done it?

Too many witnesses.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 1:28pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 1:26pm: Why do you think they stated it publicly if their intention was to cover up their secret agenda? Do you think it is a grand conspiracy to make internet racists look stupid? If their intention really is to murder every Palestinian, why do you think they haven't done it? Too many witnesses.

So you think they are going to wait until no-one is looking?

Some Jews are averting their eyes to the mass murder and genocide. Others are cheering and demanding total extermination.

Ozpolitic Jews are rejoicing at every death of a child.

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freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 1:29pm:

So you think they are going to wait until no-one is looking?

why do you think he kicked out the media :D :D

https://time.com/6979208/israel-gaza-death-toll/


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In war zones, the percentage of civilians killed can vary widely. Studies have shown that more civilians die during fighting in urban areas. In a U.N. Security Council report titled, "Protection of civilians in armed conflict”, the U.N. examined the rate of civilian casualties in populated areas during conflicts in the year 2021. It found that 89 percent of deaths in urban areas were civilians. In non-urban areas that year, the civilian death rate fell to 10 percent.

Given that Hamas is restricting combat almost exclusively to urban areas, the evidence is entirely consistent with Israel not deliberately targeting civilians. It demonstrates both that Israel has in fact achieved a much lower percentage of civilian dead than is typical for urban combat, and that Hamas' strategy is designed to maximise civilian casualties. Israel cannot change Hamas' military strategy, but it can and does minimise civilian casualties within the limitations imposed by Hamas.

Hi, I think the debate has now move passed "If Israel is deliberately targeting civilians."

The debate is now that Palestinian civilian are actually legitimate targets for military action because they support hamas.

That is according to most right wing supporters of Israel. 

Israel's objectives change as their lies are exposed.

Israeli Jews are the rapists and baby decapitators.

Israeli Jews have murdered Israeli Jews with impunity. The victims' Jewish mothers even praised the Jewish murderers. That's absolute depravity and insanity.

Stats dont lie. 

As of 27/04/2024, the Israel defence force have dropped 75 000 tonnes of explosives / bombs over gaza.

Each 10000 to 120000 is equivalent to one nuclear bomb used in Hiroshima. 

So, to date, at least, 7 to 8 nuclear bomb worth of explosive used in Gaza. 

Any one with a brain can tell that this is type of indiscriminate killing.   The aim is to make Gaza non habitable, in order to drive the population out.  Even Blind Freddy can see that.

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 3:07pm:

Stats dont lie.  As of 27/04/2024, the Israel defence force have dropped 75 000 tonnes of explosives / bombs over gaza. Each 10000 to 120000 is equivalent to one nuclear bomb used in Hiroshima.  So, to date, at least, 7 to 8 nuclear bomb worth of explosive used in Gaza.  Any one with a brain can tell that this is type of indiscriminate killing.   The aim is to make Gaza non habitable, in order to drive the population out.  Even Blind Freddy can see that.

Well, the Allies dropped 2.7 million tons of explosives on Germany in WWII.

Frank wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 4:03pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 3:07pm: Stats dont lie.  As of 27/04/2024, the Israel defence force have dropped 75 000 tonnes of explosives / bombs over gaza. Each 10000 to 120000 is equivalent to one nuclear bomb used in Hiroshima.  So, to date, at least, 7 to 8 nuclear bomb worth of explosive used in Gaza.  Any one with a brain can tell that this is type of indiscriminate killing.   The aim is to make Gaza non habitable, in order to drive the population out.  Even Blind Freddy can see that. Well, the Allies dropped 2.7 million tons of explosives on Germany in WWII.

Lets do some math then. 

The figure is actually 2.7 million tonnes of explosives used over Europe.  1.35 million tonnes over Germany.   World war 2 lasted 6 years.

Area of Gaza is 360 square km.    Area of Germany is roughly 1000 times larger than that.   And if you use the same concentration of bombs, per area.... it would mean that over just 6 months of conflict, Israel dropped equivalent of 75 million tonnes of explosives if Gaza is size of Germany. 

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 12:30pm:

Hi, I think the debate has now move passed "If Israel is deliberately targeting civilians."

No it hasn't. The idiots are still chanting that claim.


tickleandrose wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 3:07pm:

Any one with a brain can tell that this is type of indiscriminate killing.

So not deliberate targeting then?

The evidence is clear. Many UN agencies have reported the crimes of Israeli Jews.

Israeli Jews are committing mass murder and genocide of Palestinians.

The US, EU, UK, France, and Germany are directly complicit in the murder, the supply of weapons and munitions they know will be used for genocide, and for providing political cover for Israel.

The Global public is turning against the perpetrators and the accomplices of this crime.

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BREAKING:

It is being reported up to 100 Palestinians have been killed due to a strike on a school in Gaza sheltering displaced residents.

I’m really getting fed up with this ridiculous lie that Israel is deliberately targeting civilians. First of all, they are not and never have. It’s no secret that Hamas and Hezbollah use civilians as human shields. They situate their weapons, planning and intelligence centres, command and control centres, hideouts for senior militants, etc in civilian areas such as apartment buildings and schools and hospitals in the hope that Israel won’t attack those targets and if they do, they’ll cop a lot of flak for doing so. We’ve seen this when Israeli special forces infiltrated a hospital in Gaza and carried out a surgical mission to eliminate a terrorist in the hospital. They took great risks to their own personnel to ensure civilians were not harmed when it would’ve been easier to just level the hospital with a bunch of 2000lb bombs. When they have bombed civilian areas, they’ve warned civilians in advance of the impending strike, as we saw last week, in order to minimise the risk to civilians. It’s not the fault of Israel that Hamas and Hezbollah use apartment buildings as launch sites for their rockets or storage sites for their weapons and ammunition. Are the Israelis to just leave those sites untouched and allow them to kill Israeli citizens without fear of retaliation?

Please stop persisting with this ridiculous lie. Anyone who does just looks like a freaking moron who will believe anything they’re told, just like the MAGA freaks.

Israeli Jews are targeting civilians and are committing mass murder and genocide.

The civilized world must act against Israel to stop the genocide.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 7^th, 2024 at 3:07pm:

Israeli Jews are targeting civilians and are committing mass murder and genocide. The civilized world must act against Israel to stop the genocide.

A year ago today, Hamas infiltrated the border and killed more than 1,200 people and kidnapped over 250 - some of which have since been murdered while being held captive in deplorable conditions. These people were simply at a music festival and were completely defenceless. On the other hand, Israel warns civilians to leave before they launch air strikes in areas where they could be harmed. Your ridiculous argument holds no water, so stop persisting with such a ludicrous and blatant lie.

Innocent Palestinian CHILD, a 14 year old, shot dead.
All he tried to do was stab a Jew.  :'( :'( can't even do that without the Jews responding with force.  :'( :'(


https://x.com/EretzIsrael/status/1846159463142588720

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 7^th, 2024 at 3:05pm:

First of all, they are not and never have

so they are that incompetent that they accidentally killed 40 000 people? Got it.

Mass murder and genocide is being perpetrated by Israeli Jews.

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https://i.ibb.co/zGJj9dK/tomato-fight-la-tomatina-festival-in-spain-v0-mybws1lq0fld1.jpg

Israeli Jews are guilty of mass murder, genocide, and crimes of occupation.

The ICJ determinations on genocide are due soon.

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When will Arabs love their children more then they hate Jews?