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Title: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on May 28th, 2024 at 12:00pm Netanyahu's deliberate slaughter of innocent women & children continues: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to continue the war against Hamas amid international condemnation of an air strike that killed scores of Palestinians in Rafah on Sunday. At least 45 people were killed, according to the Hamas-run health ministry, while hundreds more were treated for severe burns, fractures and shrapnel wounds. Speaking in the Israeli parliament, Mr Netanyahu said the strike was a “tragic mishap” but added: “I don’t intend to end the war before every goal has been achieved.” Netanyahu vows to continue war amid air strike condemnation Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) said on Monday that one of its facilities had received at least 28 dead people, including women and children, following the strike. It said it had treated another 180 wounded Palestinians, with most suffering from serious shrapnel wounds, fractures, traumatic injuries and burns. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on May 28th, 2024 at 12:09pm
It is amazing that world leaders are not rejecting Israeli lies.
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Aussie on May 28th, 2024 at 12:13pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 12:00pm:
The IDF are either incompetent or deliberate killers of civilians. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Aussie on May 28th, 2024 at 12:19pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 12:00pm:
Another: Link. Quote:
So, which is it, a precision attack on Hamas or a tragic mistake slaughtering refugees? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by aquascoot on May 28th, 2024 at 12:20pm
we must blame hamas for not releasing the hostages and surrendering
they are causing their own people to suffer |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on May 28th, 2024 at 12:28pm Aussie wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 12:13pm:
The IDF is a very sophisticated military machine - they don't have "mishaps" like that. This is another example of the deliberate slaughter of women and children. Hopefully Netanyahu will pay for his crimes one day. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Belgarion on May 28th, 2024 at 12:32pm
If HAMAS continues to hide behind civilians the this will be the result. The death of these innocents is the fault of all those who continue to give HAMAS a free pass for this tactic.
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on May 28th, 2024 at 12:38pm
Israeli Jews are genocidal murderers since before 1948.
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Aussie on May 28th, 2024 at 12:50pm aquascoot wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 12:20pm:
Who is telling the truth? The IDF who say it was an aimed attack on Hamas using precision weapons, or Netanyahu who says it was a mistake, a tragic error resulting in civilian deaths? Which is the smacking liar Mr Ed? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by UnSubRocky on May 28th, 2024 at 1:05pm
I was watching the recently released movie "Civil War" earlier today. That movie makes a good account of what fighting among civilians is really like. The casualties are mainly the innocent trying to live their lives.
Hamas are cowardly. If you use your own people as human shields whilst carrying out cowardly suicide bombings, it is unsurprising that you end up having more enemies (even on your own side) from the events. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on May 28th, 2024 at 1:16pm
How many more civilians is Hamas prepared to sacrifice? What IS Hamas's goal in this war? What do they want to achieve?
The ostracision and destruction of Israel. How? By sacrificing as many Palestinians as 'necessary' to achieve that goal. Do they have any other aims? No. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on May 28th, 2024 at 1:21pm Frank wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 1:16pm:
Israeli Jews are a global mishap. Hamas and the Palestinians have a right to resist. Israeli Jews are murderers and genocide perpetrators. Israeli Jews rejoice at every death of a Palestinian child. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on May 28th, 2024 at 1:52pm UnSubRocky wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 1:05pm:
Yes, Hamas are cowardly. They're animals. However, that doesn't excuse the IDF for deliberately targeting women and children. It's no mishap: the IDF have been deliberately slaughtering pregnant women, babies, and small children since day one. Why do forum members here continue to cheer on the genocide perpetrated by Netanyahu? Why can't they condemn both terrorist groups, as I do? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on May 28th, 2024 at 2:19pm aquascoot wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 12:20pm:
it's because of stupid people like you that netanynazi is allowed to get away with murder |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by buzzanddidj on May 28th, 2024 at 3:22pm Frank wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 1:16pm:
Not too many. Perhaps a restoration of the original borders of Israel and Palestine set down United Nations Resolution 181, resolution passed by the United Nations in 1947 calling for the partition of Palestine into Arab and Jewish states. Bearing in mind, at the time, the region was ALL an Arab region, with no fixed borders - but known as Palestine, from biblical times. The Palestinians had no say in this annexing - and this artificial state of Israel has been making land-grab after land-grab to be the very different Israel, we know today - from the original Israel of 1947 The artificial state could never be sustained, without the multi-billions of US foreign aid - and multi billions worth of 'state of the art' US made and supplied armaments . |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on May 28th, 2024 at 4:04pm buzzanddidj wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 3:22pm:
The Arabs responded to that resolution by attacking Israel. Then 75 years later, on October 7, they attacked Israel again, vowing to repeat it until there is only one Palestine, from the river to the sea. They are chanting that all over the world. Has all that escaped you?? The Palestinians are not interested in any 2 state solution. They have rejected all 6 options for it since 1948. They want to eliminate Israel. You can't have people like that as 'partners for peace." Don't be daft. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by freediver on May 28th, 2024 at 4:06pm Frank wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 1:16pm:
They share Aussie's goal of ethnically cleansing the middle east of its Jewish population. The only difference is that while Aussie is prepared to kill all the Jews in the middle east, plus another three million or so from elsewhere (he won't say where), he is not as eager as Hamas to kill Muslims in the process. He wants a nice, orderly, 'legal' ethnic cleansing. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on May 28th, 2024 at 4:15pm
no surprise to see fd once again supporting genocide
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Aussie on May 28th, 2024 at 5:28pm freediver wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 4:06pm:
No wonder Gandalf left this Forum. You continually and deliberately misrepresent what people post. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on May 28th, 2024 at 7:02pm Just to clarify, who fired the missile: Hamas or the IDF? "Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) said on Monday that one of its facilities had received at least 28 dead people, including women and children, following the strike." Were these innocent women and children slaughtered by a direct attack from Hamas or a direct attack from the IDF? I'm curious. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Aussie on May 28th, 2024 at 7:08pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 7:02pm:
freediver, Mr Ed, Frank.....anyone? Hello????? Anyone home? And: (a) was it an aimed deliberate attack using precision weapons as the IDF says it was; (b) was it an unintended mishap, a tragic mistake, as Netanyahu says it was? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on May 28th, 2024 at 7:22pm
The establishment of Israel is a tragic mistake.
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by buzzanddidj on May 28th, 2024 at 7:50pm Laugh till you cry wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 12:09pm:
In not such strong words - but stronger than Albanese has used, so far - Penny Wong said in The Senate today, very firmly, "This has got to STOP" . |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on May 28th, 2024 at 7:58pm Laugh till you cry wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 7:22pm:
There goes the 2 state solution bollocks. The Muslims will NEVER accept it, it is against everything in the Koran. Once Muslim, always Muslim. They will never give up. Not on Israel, not on Al Andalus, not on Braford, Greenacre, Auburn. Westerners simply have no sense at all about the cultural confidence of Islam. They are like Bbunny Bbwiyawn who thinks they are all like him, wishy-washy, impaired cockwombles in Maggie Smith hats and parasols, FFS! ;D ;D |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Aussie on May 28th, 2024 at 8:01pm buzzanddidj wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 7:50pm:
Yes, but freediver and the rest of the psychopathic genocide supporters here want it to keep going until they see a white flag from the defeated and the corpses of the remaining hostages. Meanwhile, the World has now seen what liars either the IDF or Netanyahu are. My money is on the international war criminal. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on May 28th, 2024 at 8:12pm Aussie wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 8:01pm:
They are not liars. You are. You are all despicable Hamas shills. No credibility. Imagine if your mother or sister was a Hamas hostage, you stupid bastards. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on May 28th, 2024 at 8:25pm Frank wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 8:12pm:
Its mass murder and genocide. The targeting of children and civilians is deliberate. ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on May 28th, 2024 at 8:28pm Frank wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 8:12pm:
If my mother or sister was a Hamas hostage, I still wouldn't want the IDF deliberately slaughtering pregnant women and babies. I guess I don't like seeing kids murdered, and you do. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on May 28th, 2024 at 8:49pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 8:28pm:
It is not 'deliberate', despicable, lying shhit. Hamas uses human shields. It is central to their strategy to have as many killed as possible, to dupe shhitheads like you. Their strategy is working on you, despicable, stinking unflushable turd. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on May 28th, 2024 at 10:04pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 8:28pm:
Many family members of those kidnapped are saying the same thing. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on May 28th, 2024 at 10:05pm
Frank, save yourself before its too late.
Netanyahu and Biden are already denounced as murderers. ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on May 28th, 2024 at 10:27pm freediver wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 4:06pm:
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on May 28th, 2024 at 10:35pm Aussie wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 12:19pm:
A tragic mistake - they missed the big bad boss guy they were aiming for - he left five minutes before... nobody's perfect... everyone is entitled to one little mistake... look what Hamass did on 7/10... just a small error of judgement by a group lead astray by poor intelligence ..... |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by buzzanddidj on May 28th, 2024 at 10:36pm Frank wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 8:49pm:
With American supplied technology and 'smart missiles' - you don't "accidently" flatten a refugee tent city, killing its occupants of civilian men, woman and children - with the assurance of Netanyahu's IDF that this was a safe zone. . |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Baronvonrort on May 28th, 2024 at 10:39pm Aussie wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 7:08pm:
(a) Yes they took out 2 Hamass leaders who were using women and children as human shields. Secondary explosions caused more damage, it's hard to predict what happens with secondary explosions when Hamas ammo cooks off. Quote:
Hamas launched missiles at Tel Aviv from Rafah before Israel responded. Quote:
(b)Standard procedure is for Israel to apologise before investigating. Netanyahu might not be up to date on every aspect of this war. Hamas fired rockets at Israel from Rafah how should Israel respond to this war crime? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Baronvonrort on May 28th, 2024 at 11:17pm buzzanddidj wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 10:36pm:
The precision weapon technology isn't American it comes from Israel who sell it to the US. We used Israeli technology in our FA18s for precision weapons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litening The US spent billions on Star Wars missile defence they couldn't get it to work. The Israelis figured it out and routinely shoot down missiles they know where they will land so they don't shoot down missiles that land in open fields. It wasn't in a safe zone where this happened the fake news are bullshitting. Did you know 900,000 people have left Rafah? ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Baronvonrort on May 28th, 2024 at 11:34pm Aussie wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 8:01pm:
Hamas are the bullshitters and leftists fall for the lies hook line and sinker. Did you know the UN revised death toll in Gaza did you hear about this in any news? Quote:
Muslims are allowed to lie they haven't been honest with anything in this war. Quote:
Muslims are allowed to lie and the idiot leftists fall for every lie hook line and sinker. :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on May 29th, 2024 at 12:24am
BaronVonrort is frantic and frenetic as his favorite death cult is exposed for mass murder and genocide as they daily murder scores of helpless unarmed children and women.
BaronVonrort, clean the blood from your hands and walk, no run, away from the death cult. BaronVonrort save yourself before its too late. The words you are republishing are all lies from the Hasbara cesspit of death. ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on May 29th, 2024 at 5:56am Frank wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 8:49pm:
Oh, but it is. From day one Israel has been deliberately targeting hospitals, pregnant women, babies, and children. It's part of their "nip it in the bud" genocide strategy. Hamas isn't hiding inside wombs and baby incubators. You're just making excuses for terrorists. These are deliberate, targeted attacks - there was no "mishap". |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Aussie on May 29th, 2024 at 7:43am Baronvonrort wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 10:39pm:
(b)Standard procedure is for Israel to apologise before investigating. Netanyahu might not be up to date on every aspect of this war. Hamas fired rockets at Israel from Rafah how should Israel respond to this war crime? [/quote] Right, so, Netanyahu lied. Fair enough. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Gordon on May 29th, 2024 at 10:04am
Placing rocket launchers next to a refugee encampment?
Keep goo Israel until Hamas is extinct https://www.tiktok.com/@prestonstew/video/7374067417774869806?_t=8mjw7hdyYq2&_r=1 |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by buzzanddidj on May 29th, 2024 at 10:07am Frank wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 4:04pm:
... and Israel is in the process of eliminating Palestine - or what's left of it. Netanyahu creamed his tzitzit on hearing of the Hamas terror attack. Here was his chance to completely rub out Palestine - and every last Palestinian man, women and child - in Netanyahu's Final Solution. With the blessing of the free world - or so he assumed He wouldn't even win an election in Israel, at the moment. He's obviously "on the nose" at home, as well. If I was a Palestinian, I wouldn't accept any two-state solution either Not with THOSE borders. In a final word on the refugee tent city missile attack, American technology and 'smart missiles' don't make "terrible mistakes" They could fire one from Tel Aviv for a successful hit, aimed at a postage stamp, in any Gazan town square. This was no "mistake" This was deliberate, strategic, pre-meditated murder . . . |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Gordon on May 29th, 2024 at 10:18am
Again
Hamas deliberately using hurting it's own people for pr https://www.tiktok.com/@prestonstew/video/7366762524198440234?_t=8mjx85GHw3O&_r=1 |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Gordon on May 29th, 2024 at 10:19am buzzanddidj wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 10:07am:
You're a dirty sex tourist who travels the world looking for cheap sex. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on May 29th, 2024 at 11:57am How many pregnant women and babies will Israel murder today? And how many more excuses will forum members make for their crimes? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on May 29th, 2024 at 12:01pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 11:57am:
Not enough to satisfy Fd, Gordons, Frank or Yaddas bloodlust |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on May 29th, 2024 at 12:05pm Gordon wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 10:19am:
Gordon is a supporter of mass murder and genocide. Israeli Jews are failing to defeat unarmed defenseless women and children while Gordon rejoices at the explosions of blood as children are murdered and maimed by Israeli Jews. Goron's stains will never wash off. Gordon cannot save himself even if he runs away from his death cult. ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by buzzanddidj on May 29th, 2024 at 12:17pm Gordon wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 10:18am:
I never go past tiktok.com in any reliable, factual news searches, either . |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on May 29th, 2024 at 1:26pm
Gordon loves hate and hates love.
Save yourself, Gordon, run from your death cult. ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on May 29th, 2024 at 1:29pm John Smith wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 12:01pm:
So - the women and babies are pregnant? Or the women or the babies are pregnant? You see, you must match your subject to your descriptor - otherwise you create a meaning you did not intend... so which is it? Are the women pregnant or the babies? We all know the propensities of Arabs etc under Mohamed's rules... but can you validate for us the scientific reality of pregnant babies? Is this an extension of the 'pregnant men' nonsense? ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Gordon on May 29th, 2024 at 1:33pm
Three Israeli soldiers killed as Hamas claims responsibility for attack on Kerem Shalom border crossing, shutting off humanitarian aid
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-06/kerem-shalom-border-crossing-missiles-israel-gaza-hamas/103807426 |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on May 29th, 2024 at 1:37pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 1:29pm:
How many babies will Israel murder today? How many pregnant women will Israel murder today? How many murders will satisfy forum members here. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on May 29th, 2024 at 1:44pm
Israeli soldiers are genocidal criminals and mass murderers and have earned their destiny.
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by buzzanddidj on May 29th, 2024 at 2:05pm Laugh till you cry wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 12:05pm:
He's also a "class A" geriatric homophobe, with a massive ego - under the delusion any self-respecting homo like myself, would be remotely interested in any tragic "old coot" like himself ? His obsession with anal sex goes deeper (pardon the pun) than even the bobby's does . |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Belgarion on May 29th, 2024 at 2:52pm
As you HAMAS Puppets are too stupid to understand any written argument, lets see if a drawing can help:
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on May 29th, 2024 at 2:54pm Belgarion wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 2:52pm:
Not quite. For that picture to be correct, the Israeli soldier's gun would be pointing down a bit. They are deliberately targeting babies, women, and small children. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by aquascoot on May 29th, 2024 at 3:14pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 2:54pm:
by "they" we assume you mean hamas :'( :'( :'( |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by buzzanddidj on May 29th, 2024 at 4:14pm Laugh till you cry wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 12:09pm:
It's HAPPENING - but it's never quit FAST enough. Not officially a "world leader" - I've been quite impressed by Penny Wong's performance, to date. If she holds such ambition - with a switch to the House of Government - she'd make a fine Labor leader and PM, one day. We should also remember, Hitler remained the world's "darling dictator" long after HIS Final Solution went into full swing, in the likes of Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen concentration camps. The British Monarchy were still "wining and dining" HIM, up until the minute HE declared war on Britain. There's something very "precious" with the Jews when it comes to any criticism - with world leaders TERRIFIED of the Jews kicking that old "anti-semite" can around. It's also noteworthy they hold a substancial voting bloc in "the west" . |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Belgarion on May 29th, 2024 at 4:34pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 2:54pm:
That is what you need to tell yourself to justify your support for these HAMAS terrorists. But deep down you know you are wrong. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by buzzanddidj on May 29th, 2024 at 4:43pm aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 3:14pm:
It's not been difficult to pick out members of the "Netanyahu Cheer Squad" They're the far-right posters with a lot of past form as Islamophobes and have dedicated their lives to hating ANYONE who is a Muslim . |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on May 29th, 2024 at 4:50pm Belgarion wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 4:34pm:
Not just wrong - lying to self.... for some it is anything to justify their unformed resentments and attack anything in society considered mainstream - Israel's democratic government is part of OUR mainstream ... Israel is an organised and cultured country unlike 'palestine' - so the twist for these people is to say that since they oppose our way of life, they must support Hamas murderers. It's a form of The Madness that has taken over the West.... it's early teenage rebellion taken to extremes in the hands of modern 'teachers' and then, due to the utter failure of parental guidance through this early teenage time - it extends into their adulthood. When you have kids - and they are still kids in mind (look at the adults around these days who are still kids in their 'thinking') who go from school to uni to top slot jobs etc - they have no real compass or grounding in simple realities... The same criticism has been leveled at our 'political class' - most of them have not one idea, though they try to claim they did it tough when they were kids etc. Straight from school, into the uni, student 'politics', join the party, get into the Unions or business (maybe) or more likely go for a 'staffer' position to learn the ropes and hold out for a gig in a seat .... money for life without ever turning a single sod of real work. I say these 'woke' kids with their murderous intent should be thrown out of universities as unsuitable and made to get their minds right before being allowed back. Imagine these little arseholes terrorising Jewish students in calm, quiet houses of reason, thought and learning... why are they not thrown out? :-? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by aquascoot on May 29th, 2024 at 5:36pm buzzanddidj wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 4:43pm:
most muslims are fine because they arent real muslims but real muslims who believe that they get 64 virgins for killing infidels, and who believe it is ok to take captured women as sex slaves (as muhamed did) and who think little girls should be shot in the head for going to school. those sort of muslims (the ones who arent fake). it is correct to hate on them |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on May 29th, 2024 at 5:55pm buzzanddidj wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 4:43pm:
What do you like about Islam? What Islam-shaed hole do you have in your existence? What aspects of it do you want in your life? The "toss the homo from the roof" bit or the "don't think, just memorise" bit? Or what? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on May 29th, 2024 at 6:11pm Belgarion wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 4:34pm:
over 35 000 dead, mostly women and children says he's absolutely spot on. If you need to lie to yourself to avoid having to face the fact that you support terrorists, you go for it. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on May 29th, 2024 at 6:19pm Belgarion wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 4:34pm:
I think you've mistaken me for someone else. I've condemned Hamas from day one, and continue to condemn them to this day. Similarly, I'm condemning Netanyahu and the IDF for deliberately targeting women and children. Deliberate targeting - no "mishap". You see, I condemn both sides for their terrorist activities. You, however, seem to think it's okay for Israel to commit war crimes. One must wonder why? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on May 29th, 2024 at 6:28pm John Smith wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 6:11pm:
Who was cowering behind them? Who put them in harm's way? Who attacked Israel knowing that there would be retaliation? Hamas. Muslim Jihad. Their aim IS maximum civilian causality. They are calculating, stageing it. THAT is the only 'weapon " they have, and rockets in schools, hospitals. You gullible idiots are the target audience, and being ignorant in its, you fall for it every time. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on May 29th, 2024 at 6:31pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 6:19pm:
Bollocks, turd. You "condemn" and then swiftly move on, never again to think of or mention Hamas or 7 October. You are a dishonest, absolutely low, despicable and spineless liar, manipulator, slimey, shifty swindler. You have no honest bone in your sorry body. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on May 29th, 2024 at 7:02pm
F**k 10/7. F**k the Israeli Jews.
Frank's world is disintegrating as Israeli Jews are killing Zionism and Judaism. Frank is frantic and frenetic as his death cult dissolves in front of his face. Israel is being destroyed from within and without as outside forces unite against the terrorist state of Israel. Israel's fear of the neighboring states uniting against Israel is being realized as Uncle Sam tires of trying to stimulate love of Israeli Jews. Run, Frank, before its too late. ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Dnarever on May 29th, 2024 at 7:41pm Quote:
If this were true you would think they would have fixed it by now, they have had similar mishaps about twice a week for about 10 months. I suspect they are telling lies ? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Setanta on May 29th, 2024 at 7:48pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 6:19pm:
Why are you not condemning Hamas in every post you make about Israel then? You only condemn Hamas when you are called on your dishonesty, making you even more dishonest. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Dnarever on May 29th, 2024 at 7:48pm Belgarion wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 4:34pm:
Nobody here has supported Hamas at all. People not supporting Palestinians being slaughtered in mass are not supporting Hamas at all - they are simply opposing Israel's atrocities in the genocide of the palestinian people. Most sane and sensible people oppose both the atrocities of Hamas and Israel. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by aquascoot on May 29th, 2024 at 7:55pm Laugh till you cry wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 7:02pm:
these 2 gents are bleeding from papercuts recieved whilst reading the excellent book "48 laws of power" law 15 is the one to concentrate on Overview of Law #15: Crush Your Enemy Totally Crush your enemy totally. Don’t go halfway with them or give them any options whatsoever. If you leave even one ember smoldering, it will eventually ignite. You can’t afford to be lenient. Principles of Law 15 History is replete with examples of leaders who defeated their enemies but left them alive out of mercy. Of course, the opponent always bided his time, becoming ever more resentful and determined, until he was strong enough to seek revenge. Your enemies feel nothing but animosity for you, and want to eliminate you. According to Law 15 of the 48 Laws of Power, the only way to have security and peace is to do to them what they would do to you. When you get the upper hand, don’t hesitate to deliver the final blow. This doesn’t necessarily mean killing them, but at minimum neutralizing them by totally eliminating their ability to fight back. In the old days, banishment often worked. For instance, in the 1930s, Chiang Kai-shek had almost decimated Mao Tse-tung‘s Communists, so he turned his attention to the invading Japanese instead. But over ten years, the Communists recovered and eventually routed Chiang’s army, forcing him to flee to Taiwan. He didn’t learn to follow Law 15: Crush Your Enemy Totally, and it cost him his power. You need to crush your enemy totally — don’t go halfway with them or give them any options whatsoever. Don’t negotiate — negotiation will undercut your victory. For your security, you must crush them. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Setanta on May 29th, 2024 at 7:56pm Dnarever wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 7:48pm:
Most sane and sensible people oppose the violence but understand Hamas is the instigator of said violence and Israel needs to disembowel the organisation at all costs or it will continue to offer up it's people to slaughter for a PR campaign... that 'tards will swallow. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Dnarever on May 29th, 2024 at 8:02pm Setanta wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 7:48pm:
The anti Hamas statements have been made. The Israeli atrocities are ongoing daily and very current with yet another deliberate massacre of innocent civilians this week. I doubt that you will find one single statement anywhere here supporting Hamas, it is all false accusations about people opposed to Israeli atrocities who are being called out on a position they clearly don't hold. To not support Hamas atrocities and to also not support Israel's mass ethnic cleansing is the only valid sensible position to hold. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Setanta on May 29th, 2024 at 8:05pm Dnarever wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 8:02pm:
Do you live in an echo chamber? :-/ |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Dnarever on May 29th, 2024 at 8:14pm Setanta wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 8:05pm:
Don't know what happened didnt think it was posted thought I was still editing. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on May 29th, 2024 at 8:17pm Laugh till you cry wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 7:02pm:
There's your Islamic future, kids. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on May 29th, 2024 at 8:20pm
The latest is that this was actually caused by secondary explosions from Hamas stored ordnance amongst all the civilians, when Israel bombed two assholes 100m away... got 'em, too, apparently.
That's two more down..................... |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on May 29th, 2024 at 8:22pm Dnarever wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 7:48pm:
Sooo.... What is your assessment of October 7? How would YOU respond to it? You mongs never say. You swiftly MOVE ON, the lying, spineless apologists you are. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on May 29th, 2024 at 8:24pm
So the anti-Israeli statements have been told as well - so they equally don't need repeating over and over?
You'd make a great feminist or Aboriginist, greg .... your logic is relentlessly skewed one way .... Now if Hamass would just give it up..... well - the Palestinian Authority under Israeli security is building flash homes for recently released terrorist convicts so they can assimilate into the modern world in a degree of comfort. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Belgarion on May 29th, 2024 at 8:55pm Dnarever wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 7:48pm:
By your criticism of Israeli tactics you are supporting HAMAS. All your criticism does is show HAMAS that their human shield tactics are working. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Dnarever on May 29th, 2024 at 8:55pm Frank wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 8:22pm:
Not by murdering 35,000 plus innocent people mostly women and children and creating generations of Hamas fighters looking for further revenge. Not by creating a 100 times greater threat to Israel. Not with the ethnic cleansing of innocent people. Not by lying to the world. not by perpetrating the type of genocide that they once faced (if anyone should know better). There is no solution in anything they have done it only increases their own risk. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Dnarever on May 29th, 2024 at 9:03pm Belgarion wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 8:55pm:
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A false claim used as propaganda by most aggressive nations looking for an excuse for their own poor choices. Israel have been using this excuse for over 30 years maybe double that. It is just standard text from the play book. The IDF have been caught telling lies for that many decades that it is no longer possible to tell if they occasionally tell the truth. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on May 29th, 2024 at 9:25pm Dnarever wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 8:55pm:
They are not innocent. They are not murdered. There is no efnik cleansing. No lies. No genocide. Killing the enemy IS the solution. Hamas IS the enemy. Kill them all. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on May 29th, 2024 at 9:40pm
It's mass murder, genocide, and lies by Israeli Jews.
The only rapes on 10/7 were the minds of the dupes that swallowed Israeli Jew lies. Israeli Jews in the IDF killed more Jews on 10/7 than Hamas did. ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Dnarever on May 29th, 2024 at 10:02pm Frank wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 9:25pm:
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Children babies and people who had nothing to do with any action are not innocent ? Really. Quote:
Deliberately killing people including babies and children who had nothing to do with this is not murder - sure - Didn't think it was possible to be that unsmart. Quote:
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on May 29th, 2024 at 10:17pm Frank wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 6:28pm:
It's you cowering behind them. Using them as your excuse to support terrorists. Except you're even more cowardly because you only ever do it from the safety of your basement. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on May 29th, 2024 at 10:20pm Setanta wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 7:56pm:
Instigator? Only if you ignore the 6000+ dead Palestinians in the 17 yrs prior to Oct . |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Dnarever on May 29th, 2024 at 10:46pm John Smith wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 10:20pm:
And if you ignore that between 30 and 80 innocents are killed for each Hamas member that they accidentally hurt. They are not even targeting Hamas members most of the time. Nobody would disagree with Israel going after Hamas but they are not. In fact their action is only going to increase numbers for Hamas in the next generations. They are hurting their own best interests. Besides it is known that Net n Yahoo had been supporting Hamas financially, The conflict before the war had been in his political best interests. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Dnarever on May 29th, 2024 at 10:54pm Frank wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 9:25pm:
This topic is about Israel admitting that they slaughtered 45 innocent people. They go on to lie about it being an accident. If it was an accident that have been having the same accident multiple times a week for about 8 months now, nobody believes that they are that incompetent that they have bombed the wrong areas by accident 500 + times. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Dnarever on May 29th, 2024 at 11:02pm John Smith wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 10:20pm:
Or ignore the 50 year imprisonment of the Palestinian people in the worlds biggest open air prison and the continued land theft for their illegal settlements. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Baronvonrort on May 29th, 2024 at 11:30pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 8:20pm:
Yes Gazans are saying to each other that is what happened. For propaganda they blame Israel when it's a war crime to hide military equipment among civilians. The leftards are silent on Hamas war crimes. Quote:
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on May 30th, 2024 at 5:42am
"You can actually see those 2ndary explosions in the video."
Yep - ammo going up - camera quickly moved off it... oops Mohamed - don't show the world that truth, In'sh'Allah!!! |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on May 30th, 2024 at 11:04am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 5:42am:
that's Israels cameramen. They blew up or got rid of all the journo's that criticised them |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on May 30th, 2024 at 11:11am Frank wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 9:25pm:
The women and children they slaughtered are not innocent? :-/ What about the babies? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by aquascoot on May 30th, 2024 at 11:31am greggerypeccary wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 11:11am:
its desirable in the eyes of the islamic ideology that they die. they are dying in a holy war and will go to islamic paradise . the children especially are blessed because they go to paradise before having ever sinned why would you deny them entry to paradise ? why are you imposing your western ideas on them ? educate yourself about the glorious islamic faith or shut your ignorant mouth |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on May 30th, 2024 at 12:06pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 11:11am:
How many babies do you want to see slaughtered? Is there a figure you have in mind that will satisfy your bloodlust? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by aquascoot on May 30th, 2024 at 12:40pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 12:06pm:
their own parents want them slaughtered ignoramus listen to the "making sense" podcast where sam harris interviews a nurse in gaza. she reports that when a hamas fighter comes in, people will GLADLY ask the staff to treat the jihadist in front of their own children , so the Jihadist can get back to doing allahs great work. you are an ignoramus who refuses to accept another cultures priorities you are actually a racist |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on May 30th, 2024 at 1:15pm Dnarever wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 8:55pm:
The question was not about what you wouldn't do, duck head. The question was : how would YOU respond? What woyld you DO? You duckwits never say. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on May 30th, 2024 at 1:20pm Frank wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 1:15pm:
or you're just not listening. Just target the terrorists. Surely it's not that difficult a concept for you to grasp is it? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on May 30th, 2024 at 1:58pm Frank wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 1:15pm:
My response would be to not deliberately target babies, pregnant women, and small children. Duh! ::) |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Daves2017 on May 30th, 2024 at 2:04pm buzzanddidj wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 3:22pm:
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Daves2017 on May 30th, 2024 at 2:05pm Daves2017 wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 2:04pm:
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on May 30th, 2024 at 2:33pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 1:58pm:
You are saying, again, what you would not do, turdwit. You would not do what you say Israel is doing. But what would you DO? How would YOU respond? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on May 30th, 2024 at 3:13pm Frank wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 2:33pm:
Take out Hamas. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on May 30th, 2024 at 3:17pm
Israeli Jews are murdering unarmed, defenseless women and children because they are easier to kill than Hamas Freedom fighters.
Israeli Jews have murdered more Israeli Jews than they have killed Hamas Freedom fighters. In fact, on 10/7 Israeli Jews murdered more Israeli Jews than Hamas did. ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by aquascoot on May 30th, 2024 at 4:56pm
they have red hands from painting post boxes which are super busy (now that millions of people are sending fan mail to the IDF )
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on May 30th, 2024 at 5:24pm Laugh till you cry wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 3:17pm:
Nailed it! |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Gordon on May 30th, 2024 at 8:44pm |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on May 30th, 2024 at 9:04pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 3:13pm:
How? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on May 30th, 2024 at 9:24pm
The idf are either targeting innocent civilians,
or they are the most incompetent, poorly trained army ever. Even the terrorists killing themselves can't get as many innocent civilians. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 14th, 2024 at 3:36pm
Old definition of chutzpah: Kill your parents, and ask the court for leniency because you're an orphan.
New definition: Imprison hostages in civilian homes, and complain because civilians die when they are rescued. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by aquascoot on Jun 14th, 2024 at 3:49pm Frank wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 3:36pm:
;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:54am
Hamas views civilian deaths not as a human tragedy but as a sign of strength. “Hamas despise those defeatist Palestinians that criticise the high number of civilian casualties,” said Abu Zuhri. “We lead our people to death … I mean, to war.”
As for Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar, he recently proclaimed that Palestinian deaths merely “infuse life into the veins of this nation, prompting it to rise to its glory and honour”. Palestinians, Hamas claims, “love martyrdom for the sake of Allah” and will continue to confront the “enemy until it vanishes from our entire land”. But it is not just the cult of death that is at issue. Rather, as a NATO report on Hamas’s use of human shields in Gaza argues, Hamas’s unparalleled willingness to jeopardise Palestinian lives “is based on an awareness of Israel’s desire to minimise collateral damage”. “If the Israel Defence Forces limits its use of military force in Gaza to avoid (that) damage,” says NATO, “Hamas will be less susceptible to Israeli attacks, and thereby able to protect its assets while continuing to fight.” Conversely, “If the IDF uses lethal force and causes an increase in civilian casualties, Hamas can utilise that as a lawfare tool: it can accuse Israel of committing war crimes, which could result in the imposition of a wide array of sanctions” – exactly as is now occurring. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/hamas-propaganda-wins-spell-disaster-for-mid-east/news-story/22ea8356724b8d15f01f3accc273b341 |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:56am Frank wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:54am:
Just like Israel |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 15th, 2024 at 11:10am |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 15th, 2024 at 4:28pm Frank wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:54am:
Hamas is, in other words, exploiting the fact that Israel is far more vulnerable to international law than it is. There is, in effect, no doubt that using civilians as human shields is a war crime. To take but one example, article 57(1) to the Geneva Conventions specifies that “the civilian population or individual civilians shall not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations, in particular in attempts to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield, favour or impede military operations”. But Hamas’s leaders are entirely unlikely to actually face war crimes proceedings, much less suffer any penalties for their conduct. On the contrary, says NATO, “Hamas uses the damage caused to civilians and civilian infrastructure as a justification to raise funds from donor nations”, directly or through NGOs, and “diverts the funds meant for reconstruction directly to its armed wing”. The fact that Israel, placed in a no-win situation, can be accused of unnecessarily harming civilians simply compounds the benefits Hamas derives. All that starkly bears out the conclusion two distinguished experts on the law of armed conflict, William Boothby and Wolff Heintschel von Heinegg, reach in The Law of War (2018). Far from “mitigating the evils of war”, they argue, the ever greater emphasis on avoiding civilian casualties has encouraged non-state combatants to “increasingly use civilian populations as shields or to otherwise favour their own military operations”. As a result, despite the best efforts of Western armed forces, “casualties among civilians in armed conflicts continue to rise unacceptably, both in absolute terms and as a proportion of total casualties” – with Hamas’s strategy, which other terrorist groups are sure to imitate, pushing the trend to an even higher level. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 15th, 2024 at 4:32pm
Moreover, Western societies – and most of all the so-called progressives – no longer exalt heroism; rather, they worship at the shrine of victimhood. No one has better understood that change, or more skilfully used the digital environment to take advantage of it, than Hamas.
It fully grasps the media’s insatiable demand for graphic footage: as Sinwar told an Italian journalist in 2018, “We make the headlines only with blood – no blood, no news.” To that end, it deploys “journalists” who, like Muhammad Wishah, Ismail Abu Omar and Mustafa Thuraya, double as senior Hamas operatives and stringers for, or employees of, Al Jazeera, to selectively record incidents in which there are civilian casualties, immediately transmitting them worldwide as “evidence” of Israeli atrocities. And by the time the IDF can correct the record, those claims have been echoed by scores of keffiyeh-clad radicals and given a degree of credibility by senior members of Western governments, including, on several occasions, our own. But Hamas also knows that not all of the world shares the West’s self-loathing addiction to victimhood – and it tailors its propaganda accordingly. Its reporting of the fighting at Gaza’s Al-Shifa Hospital – which Hamas used to store weapons, operate a command and control centre and hold hostages – is a case in point. In Arabic, its social media posts glorified the gunbattles, highlighting the “heroism” and “Jihadi spirit” of the fighters it had inside the hospital complex. In contrast, its English-language posts, which were predictably relayed by the ABC, simply denied that there were any Hamas gunmen at the hospital and portrayed the Israeli operation as a cruel assault on a purely civilian target. The trouble is that Hamas’s tactics work. Machiavelli, who regarded deliberate misinformation as an indispensable part of statesmanship and admired Ferdinand I of Spain and Pope Alexander VI for the effortless skill with which they lied, would scarcely have been surprised. Great pretenders, he wrote in The Prince, will invariably get the better of the simple-minded, and the astute deceiver will “always find someone who will allow himself to be deceived”. Machiavelli also thought a state whose rulers were vulnerable to being duped was doomed to be destroyed. Perhaps that is where we now are in the West. But the immediate tragedy is that the success of Hamas’s propaganda spells disaster for the people of the Middle East – including the people of Gaza. They truly are the casualties of lies that kill. And for so long as those lies are believed, the killing will never end. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/hamas-propaganda-wins-spell-disaster-for-mid-east/news-story/22ea8356724b8d15f01f3accc273b341 |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2024 at 4:47pm Frank wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 9:04pm:
Step 1: stop slaughtering innocent women, children, and babies. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 15th, 2024 at 4:51pm Quote:
Article 57(1) to the Geneva Conventions specifies that “the civilian population or individual civilians shall not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations, in particular in attempts to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield, favour or impede military operations”. But Hamas’s leaders are entirely unlikely to actually face war crimes proceedings, much less suffer any penalties for their conduct. On the contrary, says NATO, “Hamas uses the damage caused to civilians and civilian infrastructure as a justification to raise funds from donor nations”, directly or through NGOs, and “diverts the funds meant for reconstruction directly to its armed wing”. The fact that Israel, placed in a no-win situation, can be accused of unnecessarily harming civilians simply compounds the benefits Hamas derives. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2024 at 4:56pm Frank wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 4:51pm:
Yep, that's a good start. Deliberately target members of Hamas instead of deliberately targeting innocent women, children, and babies. I think it'll work. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 15th, 2024 at 5:12pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 4:56pm:
You did not read/comprehend the post about deliberate Hamas tactics and strategy of using human shields, did you, despicable, mindlessly repetitious, disgusting turd? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 15th, 2024 at 5:23pm
What was Hamas trying to achieve by 7 October? Please explain.
Maximum civilian Palestinian casualties in order to demonize Israel. Ah.... I see. Anything else? No. Got it. Ta. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2024 at 5:43pm Frank wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 5:12pm:
Nothing to do with shields. The IDF is deliberately targeting innocent women, children, and babies. Deliberately targeting, not hitting accidentally because they're in the way. They are deliberately targeting pregnant women and small children. Deliberately. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Belgarion on Jun 15th, 2024 at 5:50pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 5:43pm:
And you know this how? Because HAMAS says so? ::) https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/may/24/the-un-adjusted-its-gaza-fatality-reporting-heres/ |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2024 at 5:52pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 5:50pm:
By watching the IDF deliberately target innocent women, children, and babies. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 15th, 2024 at 5:55pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 5:43pm:
You are lying, as always, despicable shhit. Show us your evidence, dickheaddle - you are always big on evidence about election stealing, disgusting, hypocritical turd. Show us your evidence. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2024 at 5:58pm Frank wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 5:55pm:
The fact that the IDF is deliberately targeting innocent women, children, and babies is all the |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 15th, 2024 at 8:21pm
So no evidence, just the usual lying, despicable, repulsive gweggy shhit.
Stinky, skin crawling liar. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2024 at 8:44pm Frank wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 8:21pm:
Do you think they are so incompetent that they killed approximately 25000 women and children by accident? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 15th, 2024 at 8:52pm John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 8:44pm:
Article 57(1) to the Geneva Conventions specifies that “the civilian population or individual civilians shall not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations, in particular in attempts to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield, favour or impede military operations”. But Hamas’s leaders are entirely unlikely to actually face war crimes proceedings, much less suffer any penalties for their conduct. On the contrary, says NATO, “Hamas uses the damage caused to civilians and civilian infrastructure as a justification to raise funds from donor nations”, directly or through NGOs, and “diverts the funds meant for reconstruction directly to its armed wing”. The fact that Israel, placed in a no-win situation, can be accused of unnecessarily harming civilians simply compounds the benefits Hamas derives. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2024 at 8:58pm
Now don't be scared to say dogshit forbrains, are they targeting civilians, or are they incompetent?
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:23pm John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 8:58pm:
They are targeting Hamas. Hamas uses human shields precisely to dupe idiots like you. Is Hamas using civilians as human shields? Yes. Is that a war crime? Yes? Are you a thick *&^*ing idiot, thicko Smiff? Yes. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by wombatwoody on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:30pm Frank wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 4:04pm:
There you go again, repeating the same lies. Don't you ever learn? http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1671444180/1078#1078 |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Setanta on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:34pm wombatwoody wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:30pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Jan 20th, 2024 at 12:42am:
You should have stopped there. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by wombatwoody on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:42pm Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:34pm:
They had every right to do so. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:43pm Frank wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:23pm:
So they're incompetent. I haven't shot a gun in about 5 years and I still couldn't hit that many woman and children if I was aiming for someone else if I tried. Settled then, the idf are incompetent murderers. Glad you finally got that out. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by wombatwoody on Jun 15th, 2024 at 10:01pm John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:43pm:
Frank can't see beyond what the MSM tells him. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 16th, 2024 at 9:57am John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:43pm:
Well, why attack a heavily armed incompetent country, then? What was the purpose? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 16th, 2024 at 9:59am John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:43pm:
Well, why attack a heavily armed incompetent country, then? What was the purpose? Your stupidity doesn't make sense either way, thicko. One minute it's deliberate, the next minute it's incompetence. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:31am Frank wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:23pm:
No. The IDF is deliberately targeting women and children. This has been explained to you already. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 16th, 2024 at 11:27am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:31am:
I though t it was incompetence, despicable liar. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on Jun 16th, 2024 at 11:56am Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 11:27am:
No, you said it was because they are incompetent. ::) |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 16th, 2024 at 12:05pm John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:43pm:
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Belgarion on Jun 16th, 2024 at 2:04pm
The useful fools are tying themselves in knots to justify their support of terrorists. They have no evidence, only the anti Israel propaganda spewed by the compliant media that accepts everything HAMAS says at face value.
They cannot face the fact that they are responsible for civilian deaths in Gaza. That their support justifies the terrorists human shield tactics. Their blinkered ideology has stifled any ability to asses the situation objectively and they cheerfully parade their ignorance and hatred for all to see. ::) |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 16th, 2024 at 2:15pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 2:04pm:
Belgarion is another useless idiot blaming the victims for their deaths. Belgarion's concept implies that the 1200 Israeli Jews who died on 10/7 were responsible for their own deaths. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on Jun 16th, 2024 at 2:23pm Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 12:05pm:
That's what you said. You agreed that they killed approx. 25000 women and children because they were aiming for hamas. You said it wasn't deliberate targeting of those women and children. Don't run away now. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 16th, 2024 at 3:56pm Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 11:27am:
Deliberately targeting women, children, and babies when the enemy is Hamas is incompetence, don't you agree? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by aquascoot on Jun 16th, 2024 at 4:59pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 2:04pm:
100 % correct |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 16th, 2024 at 5:47pm aquascoot wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 4:59pm:
Jewish Israel is a terrorist state that murders people because nobody stops them. Israeli Jews don't need an excuse to commit mass murder and genocide. Its an Israeli Jewish sport. Israeli Jews even murder other Israeli Jews with impunity. ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by aquascoot on Jun 16th, 2024 at 6:06pm
as long as thats the blood of the enemy , not a problem
israels leaders responsibility is to Make sure not one more IDF soldier dies then neccessary he is morally required to make them destroy the enemy at minimal risk to his soldiers so blast the hell out of enemy positions before risking the shedding of one drop of IDF blood. to not do so would indicate an incompetant leader |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 16th, 2024 at 6:08pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 3:56pm:
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 16th, 2024 at 6:09pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 3:56pm:
Well, why attack a heavily armed incompetent country, then? What was the purpose? Your stupidity doesn't make sense either way, despicable, lying turd. One minute it's deliberate, the next minute it's incompetence. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on Jun 16th, 2024 at 7:12pm Quote:
Cause they're terrorists. They never make sense. Doesn't mean that the idf has to emulate them |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:26pm John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 7:12pm:
So you surrender to their demands because they are terrorists, because they make no sense, because they hide behind their own 'civilians' who elected them, because they ar es as stupid, immoral, bloody stupid as you? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:31pm Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:26pm:
No one ever suggested surrendering to anyone's demands. What are you, retarded? What was said was that the idf shouldn't become worse terrorists |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:53pm John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:31pm:
So killing terrorists is worse than being terrorists. Sounds like one of your 'ideas', thicko. Terrorists attacked Israel. Israel fights back. Israel is terrorist. No wonder you are the thicko in Chief, thicko. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by wombatwoody on Jun 16th, 2024 at 9:44pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 2:04pm:
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1714668349 |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:06pm Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 8:53pm:
Killing, deliberately, about 25000 women and children makes you worse than terrorists you dumbarse. No other terrorist organisation has ever managed to kill so many innocents. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:26pm |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:27pm John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:06pm:
Is that number of those killed in the last 12 months? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 16th, 2024 at 11:26pm aquascoot wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 6:06pm:
There has been a river of Israeli-Jewish IDF blood. The river is widening every day. Israeli Jews have been hiding the true number of Israeli-Jewish casualties including many that have loss of limbs and serious internal injuries. ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by aquascoot on Jun 17th, 2024 at 5:21am John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:06pm:
care to comment on the fire bombing of tokyo, hamburg or dresden john ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on Jun 17th, 2024 at 6:37am UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:27pm:
About 34 000 dead, almost 25k of them are women and children. Numbers are from the UN |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on Jun 17th, 2024 at 6:41am aquascoot wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 5:21am:
Different era horseboy. Back then if you're bomb landed within a few hundred metres of your target you were lucky. These days they have the ability to target something the size of a dinner plate from kilometres away, and hit within inches of what they were aiming at. There is no excuse for murdering so many innocents. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 17th, 2024 at 9:18am John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 6:37am:
So we can conclude that 9,000 Hamas fighters were hiding among their 25,000 women and children??? Despicable. The Palestinian numbers are unreliable and unverifiable. They include deaths caused by Palestinian rockets falling within Gaza and natural and accidental deaths. Nor do they specify how many Hamas fighters have been killed since there is no clear distinction between Hamas and the rest of Gazans. What is The Hamas strategy and aim? Why did Hamas attack Israel on 7 October and what are they still fighting for? Please explain. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 17th, 2024 at 10:21am
I condemn the genocide by Israeli Jews and Genocide Joe Biden.
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:21am Frank wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 9:18am:
No. The IDF deliberately targeted the women & children. They weren't targeting Hamas fighters. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Belgarion on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:24am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:21am:
Show us the proof greggy..You have a copy if IDF standing orders that says 'Target the children' perhaps? Or just your innate prejudice? ::) |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:30am Belgarion wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:24am:
The thousands of dead women & children are proof that the IDF is deliberately targeting women & children. Why do you support these acts of terrorism? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Belgarion on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:42am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:30am:
You have nothing but your own prejudice...sad really. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:47am Belgarion wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:42am:
I have the undeniable fact that thousands of women & children are dead as a direct result of the IDF targeting them. Why do you support these war crimes? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by aquascoot on Jun 17th, 2024 at 12:24pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:47am:
what war crimes? the israeli government and military command have a duty to preserve life the life of THEIR soldiers. they dont owe the enemy anything except high explosives ::) ::) |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 17th, 2024 at 12:49pm John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 6:37am:
So, it is in the last 12 months? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 17th, 2024 at 12:53pm aquascoot wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 12:24pm:
Israeli Jews are committing mass murder and genocide. The enemy of Israeli Jews are unarmed, peaceful children and women. Israeli Jews have conducted scientific studies that children and women are the best victims because they don't shoot back. Israeli Jews don't like fighting Hamas fighters because they shoot back. ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 17th, 2024 at 1:29pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:47am:
It's bollocks, turd, far from 'undeniable fact'. Civilians are not 'targeted' by the IDF. By Hamas, yes, evidently. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 17th, 2024 at 1:31pm
20,000+ dead Palestinian children and women would disagree with Frank.
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 17th, 2024 at 1:47pm Frank wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 1:29pm:
Both Hamas and the IDF are deliberately targeting innocent civilians. They are both terrorist organisations. Why can't you condemn them both for their war crimes? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 17th, 2024 at 1:51pm aquascoot wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 12:24pm:
The IDF is deliberately targeting women (preferably pregnant), small children, and babies. That's a war crime in anyone's language. You are - once again - defending criminals. 'NEW YORK, Jun 13 (IPS) - A United Nations commission tasked with conducting an in-depth investigation of Israeli military actions in the occupied Palestinian territories has concluded that Israel's government is responsible for multiple war crimes and crimes against humanity in the Gaza Strip, including "extermination," torture, forcible transfer, and the use of starvation as a weapon of warfare.' |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 18th, 2024 at 9:46am
As Amnesty International has noted, “significant areas within the 365sq km of territory are not residential, and conducting hostilities or launching munitions from these areas presents a lower risk of endangering Palestinian civilians”.
Yet only a trivial share of Hamas’s attacks are launched from less densely populated areas; instead, they virtually all originate in the residential parts of the major urban centres. And Hamas has gone even further than that, deliberately choosing facilities such as schools, childcare centres and hospitals – which are typically in or adjacent to housing complexes – as shelters for weapons and combatants, launching pads for drones and rockets, and command and control centres. In part, Hamas’s reliance on human shields reflects its deeply entrenched cult of death. Hamas views civilian deaths not as a human tragedy but as a sign of strength. “Hamas despise those defeatist Palestinians that criticise the high number of civilian casualties,” said Abu Zuhri. “We lead our people to death … I mean, to war.” “We have the Israelis right where we want them,” Sinwar said in a recent message to Hamas officials seeking to broker an agreement with Qatari and Egyptian officials. In dozens of messages – reviewed by The Wall Street Journal – that Sinwar has transmitted to ceasefire negotiators, Hamas compatriots outside Gaza and others, he’s shown a cold disregard for human life and made clear he believes Israel has more to lose from the war than Hamas. The messages were shared by multiple people with differing views of Sinwar. Even without a lasting truce, Sinwar believes Netanyahu has few options other than occupying Gaza and getting bogged down fighting a Hamas-led insurgency for months or years. It is an outcome that Sinwar foreshadowed six years ago when he first became leader in the Gaza Strip. Hamas might lose a war with Israel, but it would cause an Israeli occupation of more than two million Palestinians. “For Netanyahu, a victory would be even worse than a defeat,” Sinwar told an Italian journalist writing in 2018 in an Israeli daily, Yedioth Ahronoth. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 18th, 2024 at 9:52am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 1:51pm:
The commission report also says: 12. Hamas military wing, other Palestinian armed groups and civilians attacked distinct civilian targets in at least 24 localities, as well as public spaces and outdoor festivals. In these sites militants systematically moved from house to house setting homes on fire, shooting into private and public shelters, and removing people from hiding places, killing, injuring and abducting civilians to Gaza. The Commission investigated six distinct attacks in Be’eri and eight attacks in Nir Oz, each involving multiple victims, largely from the same families. 13. In Be’eri, 105 civilians were killed (63 men and 42 women) by members of the military wings of Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) as well as by civilians from Gaza. In addition, 31 civilians (13 men and 18 women) were abducted to the Gaza Strip. Attackers entered the kibbutz and shot at residents, cars, pets and houses, killing and injuring, setting houses on fire and abducting people to Gaza. In one case, a nine-month-old baby girl, was shot and killed while hiding with her mother in their safe room in Be’eri. In another case, at least four people were taken out of their homes and killed at the perimeter of the Be’eri, likely while being transferred to Gaza. 14. In Nir Oz, 46 civilians were killed (33 men and 13 women) by members of the military wings of Hamas and the PIJ, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, the armed wing of the Palestinian Mujahideen Movement and the armed wing of the Popular Resistance Committees. Palestinian civilians also participated in these killings. Seventy-two residents of the kibbutz (37 men and 35 women) were abducted to Gaza. In one case, a 79-year-old woman and her 12-year-old autistic granddaughter from Nir Oz were killed close to the perimeter fence with Gaza, allegedly because they were slowing down the retreat of their captors. In another case, a 70-year-old woman and her 73-year-old husband were attacked while out for a walk in the kibbutz. The woman was killed, while her partner was abducted to Gaza where he died in captivity. 15. Many Israeli families suffered a multigenerational impact with several members either killed or abducted to Gaza. In one case in Be’eri, a 48-year-old woman and her two teenage daughters were killed, while the father was abducted to Gaza. In Nir Oz, a family of five was hiding in their safe room when militants broke into the room, shot and killed both parents, and set fire to their home, which resulted in the killing of their three children from smoke suffocation. The children’s grandmother was shot dead in a different safe room in the kibbutz. In another case from Nir Oz, an entire family was abducted to Gaza, including both parents, a four-year-old boy and a 9-month-old baby. Two of the children’s grandparents were also killed in the attack and their bodies were found near the Gaza border. 16. Of 3,000 young people at the Nova music festival in Re'im, 364 attendees (including 215 men and 136 women) were killed by members of the military wing of Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups, while around 40 others were abducted to Gaza. Victims were killed at the site of the main festival while attempting to hide under the festival stage, in portable public toilets, inside parked cars and in garbage containers. In one case, a man hid by a parked silver car, when Hamas militants shot him to death. Many of those killed were shot while running through a field east of the Nova site, trying to escape. Others were killed while hiding in stationary cars and in public shelters along road 232 where they sought refuge. Survivors in shelters reported lying for hours under piles of bodies waiting for first responders to arrive. 17. The Commission investigated the killing of civilians in four public shelters (near Re’im, Be’eri and Alumim). In all four locations, militants attacked the shelters using grenades and machine gun fire, shooting at any person attempting to escape. In a shelter near Re’im, the Commission found that militants also used a rocket propelled grenade. Militants abducted civilians to Gaza from the Re’im shelter, all of whom were suffering from serious injuries. The similar pattern of attack against these and other public shelters suggests that the attackers planned the modalities of the attacks in advance. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 18th, 2024 at 10:00am
90. In relation to the attack of 7 October in Israel, the Commission concludes on reasonable grounds that members of the military wings of Hamas and of other Palestinian armed groups, as well as Palestinian civilians who were directly participating in the hostilities, deliberately killed, injured, mistreated, took hostages and committed SGBV against: civilians, including Israeli citizens and foreign nationals; and members of the ISF, including soldiers considered hors de combat, in many locations in southern Israel. These actions constitute war crimes and violations and abuses of IHL and IHRL. J
91. The Commission concludes that civilians were intentionally targeted, that the attack was premeditated and planned over a significant period, reflecting a high degree of organisation and coordination, and implemented in several locations at or about the same time. The attacks were led and coordinated by Hamas and implemented by the military wings of Hamas and six other Palestinian factions, with the participation of some Palestinian civilians. 92. Members of the military wing of Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups abducted primarily Israeli people as hostages to Gaza, without regard for age or gender, to use them in negotiations with the Israeli authorities. Some abductees were shot at and in some cases killed. Many abductions were carried out with significant physical, mental and sexual violence and degrading and humiliating treatment, including in some cases parading the abductees. 93. Israeli children were subjected to physical and emotional mistreatment on 7 October. In addition to those who were killed and injured, many children lost one or both parents. Many children witnessed the killings of their parents and siblings and were also filmed for propaganda purposes by Palestinian armed groups who published videos depicting young Israeli children in vulnerable positions. The Commission finds it particularly egregious that children were targeted for abduction, several of them taken alone. 94. The Commission concludes that members of the military wing of Hamas and Palestinian armed groups targeted women, including by wilful killings, abductions, and physical, mental and sexual abuse. These crimes were deliberate and, in several cases, enforced with violence, intentionally causing great suffering and serious injury to the victims. The Commission particularly notes that women were subjected to GBV during the course of their execution or abduction. Women and women’s bodies were used as victory trophies by male perpetrators and the abduction, violence and humiliation of women, were put on public display, either on the streets of the Gaza Strip or online. 95. The Commission identified patterns indicative of sexual violence in several locations and concludes that Israeli women were disproportionally subjected to these crimes. The attack on 7 October enabled perpetrators to commit SGBV and this violence was not isolated but perpetrated in similar ways in several locations and by multiple Palestinian perpetrators. The Commission did not find credible evidence, however, that militants received orders to commit sexual violence and so it was unable to make conclusions on this issue. However, inflammatory language and disbelief around sexual violence, observed with both parties, risks silencing and discrediting survivors, further exacerbating trauma and stigmatization. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Dnarever on Jun 18th, 2024 at 10:07am Frank wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 9:52am:
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Yes 100% correct which is the reason that sane people are critical of the atrocities committed by both Hamas and Israel. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Dnarever on Jun 18th, 2024 at 10:08am
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 18th, 2024 at 10:12am Dnarever wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 10:07am:
Well, throbbo here, and thousands around Aust r alia stand with Hamarse. Diversity is our strength, innit. What would life be like without vibrants? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 18th, 2024 at 12:56pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 10:07am:
Correct. Both groups should be condemned for their war crimes and terrorist activity. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on Jun 18th, 2024 at 1:20pm
Frank somehow thinks his terrorists are better than hamas' terrorists :D :D :D :D
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 18th, 2024 at 1:27pm John Smith wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
Indeed. Frank subscribes to the quote from a Gerald Seymour novel: "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter". But sometimes a terrorist is just a terrorist. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 18th, 2024 at 3:13pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 12:56pm:
And THEN what?? Move on to Trump? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 18th, 2024 at 3:44pm Frank wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 3:13pm:
He'll be sentenced soon. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Dnarever on Jun 18th, 2024 at 4:52pm Frank wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 3:13pm:
Trump has nothing much to do with anything. A convicted criminal who is also an insurrectionist. Why would the Republicans put forward a contestant who is ineligible to be President. Trump is finished he just doesn't know it yet. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by aquascoot on Jun 18th, 2024 at 7:30pm John Smith wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
have the idf cut the achilles tendons of teenage girls so they cant run away and then raped them so they cant go to mussie paradise ? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 18th, 2024 at 7:56pm aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 7:30pm:
We don't know. We know for an absolute certainty though that they deliberately target pregnant women, babies, and small children. They deliberately set out to slaughter them. Your argument is "That's fine by me, just as long as they don't cut the achilles tendons of teenage girls so they cant run away and then raped them". Wow. You are one sick puppy. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on Jun 18th, 2024 at 7:57pm aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 7:30pm:
They've done worse |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 18th, 2024 at 8:02pm John Smith wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 7:57pm:
Scoot's argument is "Hamas have committed worse war crimes than the IDF, therefore the IDF should not be criticised". That's a very sick mind right there. It's his whole mindset. MAGA/Scoot, et al."Sure, Trump raped a woman but he didn't cut her throat afterwards so he really shouldn't be given a hard time". Sick, sick individuals. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on Jun 18th, 2024 at 8:07pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 8:02pm:
Hamas hasn't blown up about 25000 women and children. Even before Oct, the idf had murdered thousands of Palestinians, non combatants, and kidnapped over 70 children. The idf are worse than hamas. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by aquascoot on Jun 18th, 2024 at 8:15pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 7:56pm:
having you call me a sick puppy makes me feel a warm glow of legitimate self esteem :) :) |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by John Smith on Jun 18th, 2024 at 8:18pm Quote:
I actually believe you there. You get your jollies thinking of all those dead women and children |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 18th, 2024 at 8:20pm John Smith wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 8:07pm:
For the sake of the argument I'm willing to give scoot the benefit of the doubt and concede that Hamas are worse than the IDF. That doesn't mean that Netanyahu shouldn't be condemned and prosecuted for his war crimes. Scoot sees things in black & white - his beliefs are based along partisan and ideological lines, not rational thinking, facts, and reason. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 18th, 2024 at 8:32pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 8:02pm:
Not at all, despicable lying unclean shhit. Not at all. You are stupid and dishonest. Israel WAS attacked on 7 October. Fact. Hamas AND Palestinian "civilians" murdered and monstered hundreds and thousands in the most monstrous, inhuman manner. Fact. MY instinct would be to wipe the all out. Yet Israel pulls its punches, it halts operations to let aid to go through. Again and again. If the roles were reversed Hamas would have nuked a Jewish enclave like Gaza decades ago. I am in awe of Israeli restraint. Amazing. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 18th, 2024 at 9:41pm
Israel was not attacked on 10/7.
The Hamas action was a defensive act against occupation and attacks by the terrorist state Israel. ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Dnarever on Jun 19th, 2024 at 1:28am John Smith wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 7:57pm:
They have both done really bad things. The IDF are well known for their propaganda much of what they claim has been done by Hamas is not true. The truth is bad enough mind you. With the IDF's history it is impossibly to tell if what they say is true or not. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by aquascoot on Jun 19th, 2024 at 6:48am Dnarever wrote on Jun 19th, 2024 at 1:28am:
meanwhile the left believe the stories from the "hamas minitry of health" ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Jun 19th, 2024 at 7:38am Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 9:41pm:
Poor demented old fool.... got the silly grin.... clean out the last strongholds - make sure they resist arrest sufficiently.... then pack all these protestors up and get them to work with pick and shovel fixing the place for the Gazans... a little bit of hard work on the front porch never hurt nobody.... now put your backs into it boys and girls - only another eleven hours to sunset.... water bucket dipped from the horse trough will be around at ten and two ... |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Jun 19th, 2024 at 7:41am Frank wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 8:32pm:
... and so far the 'leadership', safe from the fighting.... continues to make public appearances and whining in the UN to the idiot's gallery there.... why are those in Turkey not under arrest? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 19th, 2024 at 10:03am
The 10/7 'incident' was a defensive act to protect Palestinians from being murdered by Israeli Jews as a process of murder and genocide that Israeli Jews have committed since 1948 and before.
Israeli Jews are committing mass murder and genocide. ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 19th, 2024 at 10:11am Frank wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 8:32pm:
Israel is deliberately targeting women, children, and babies and you're in awe. Oh dear ::) |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Bobby. on Jun 19th, 2024 at 10:26am
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/18/politics/blinken-confirms-pause-heavy-bombs-israel/index.html
Blinken confirms US is still pausing a shipment of heavy bombs to Israel as Netanyahu increases pressure on admin Published 2:24 PM EDT, Tue June 18, 2024 US Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Tuesday confirmed an ongoing pause on a shipment of heavy bombs to Israel as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sought to ratchet up public pressure on the Biden administration over “withholding weapons.” The Biden administration is “continuing to review one shipment that President Biden has talked about with regard to 2,000-pound bombs because of our concerns about their use in a densely populated area like Rafah. That remains under review,” Blinken said at a news conference at the US State Department. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 19th, 2024 at 11:10am Bobby. wrote on Jun 19th, 2024 at 10:26am:
Indeed. They want them so they can deliberately target women and children. It's the IDF modus operandi. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 19th, 2024 at 12:04pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19th, 2024 at 10:11am:
@DouglasKMurray : “If you protest for Palestinians, but didn't protest for the real genocide in Sudan 🇸🇩, or didn't protest when Assad in Syria 🇸🇾 killed in a decade 6 times the number of people killed in all wars of Israel and its enemies during 75 years, you are an antisemite.” https://x.com/DrEliDavid/status/1803155859545227497 |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 19th, 2024 at 12:06pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19th, 2024 at 11:10am:
As Amnesty International has noted, “significant areas within the 365sq km of territory are not residential, and conducting hostilities or launching munitions from these areas presents a lower risk of endangering Palestinian civilians”. Yet only a trivial share of Hamas’s attacks are launched from less densely populated areas; instead, they virtually all originate in the residential parts of the major urban centres. And Hamas has gone even further than that, deliberately choosing facilities such as schools, childcare centres and hospitals – which are typically in or adjacent to housing complexes – as shelters for weapons and combatants, launching pads for drones and rockets, and command and control centres. In part, Hamas’s reliance on human shields reflects its deeply entrenched cult of death. Hamas views civilian deaths not as a human tragedy but as a sign of strength. “Hamas despise those defeatist Palestinians that criticise the high number of civilian casualties,” said Abu Zuhri. “We lead our people to death … I mean, to war.” |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 19th, 2024 at 12:10pm Frank wrote on Jun 19th, 2024 at 12:04pm:
By Frank's principles Israeli Jews are antisemites and Jews in general are antisemites. Frank is a true disciple of superJew Dershowitz who said Jews are the worst antisemites. Do I condemn Hamas? F**K NO! ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 19th, 2024 at 8:14pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 19th, 2024 at 12:10pm:
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Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 19th, 2024 at 8:15pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 19th, 2024 at 12:10pm:
Funny how you use images of white people for your message, darkie throbbo. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 19th, 2024 at 8:26pm Frank wrote on Jun 19th, 2024 at 8:15pm:
The strategy is getting into Frank's head. Israeli Jews are committing mass murder and genocide in Gaza. ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 19th, 2024 at 8:30pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 19th, 2024 at 12:10pm:
Funny how you use images of white people for your message, darkie throbbo. |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 19th, 2024 at 8:41pm Frank wrote on Jun 19th, 2024 at 8:30pm:
Frank, your full-body erection is softening as the atrocities committed by Israeli Jews offend your bloodthirsty hawkishness and Fran's mawkishness struggles for survival. ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 19th, 2024 at 8:54pm
So how swarthy and dark are you, throbbo?
And why do you use white people's images? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 19th, 2024 at 8:59pm
White people kill more unarmed defenseless civilians than colored people do.
These two geriatric murderous genocidal maniacs will arouse Frank. ![]() |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Frank on Jun 19th, 2024 at 9:09pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 19th, 2024 at 8:59pm:
So how dark and swarthy are you, throbbo? Don't be shy. You are NOT ashamed to be a darkie, are you? Are you? |
Title: Re: "Mishap", my arse! Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 19th, 2024 at 9:38pm Frank wrote on Jun 19th, 2024 at 9:09pm:
I don't want to arouse you, Frank. |
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