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Message started by Bobby. on May 15th, 2024 at 3:17pm

Title: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Bobby. on May 15th, 2024 at 3:17pm
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-15/riots-rock-france-new-caledonia-over-voting-reform/103848752

France sends more police and seeks talks to quell New Caledonia riots


Dubravka Voloder, Stephen Dziedzic and Jenny Cai with wires

Posted 1h ago


    In short:

France has sent extra police to try to quell riots in New Caledonia, after an eruption of violence this week in protest against plans to allow more people to take part in local elections.

    Violence continued despite a night-time curfew on Tuesday that banned public gatherings.

    What's next? The French National Assembly adopted the constitutional reform late on Tuesday, but it would still have to pass a second round to become law.

France has sent extra police squadrons to quell riots on the Pacific island of New Caledonia after the French Pacific archipelago was rocked by a night of rioting against a controversial voting reform that has angered pro-independence forces.

Shots were fired at security forces, vehicles torched and shops looted in the rioting — the worst such violence in New Caledonia since deadly unrest in the 1980s.

More than 130 people were arrested, according to the French high commission of the republic in New Caledonia.

The proposed reforms would allow French residents who have lived in New Caledonia for 10 years to vote in provincial elections — a move local leaders fear will dilute the vote of pro-independence Indigenous Kanaks.

According to French media, the French National Assembly adopted the constitutional reform late on Tuesday local time, but it would still have to pass a second round to become law.

Kanak journalist Andre Qaeze said the situation remained tense in the capital, Noumea.

"The French government, they are very specialised. They have the means, they have guns, they have the cars."

"This evening, there is a plane which will arrive from Paris with soldiers, they are arriving to help the police forces to try to stop all this violence."

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Bobby. on May 15th, 2024 at 3:19pm
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/15/new-caledonia-protests-law-constitution-changes

One business group said about 30 shops, factories and other sites in and around the capital Noumea had been set ablaze, while an AFP journalist saw burned-out cars and the smoking remains of tyres and wooden pallets littering the streets.

Firefighters said they had received about 1,500 calls overnight and responded to 200 blazes.


New Caledonia protests: Macron urges calm as 130 arrested amid anger over voting change

Unrest flares as lawmakers in France support increasing the number of French nationals eligible to cast ballots in the territory’s elections.

Protests against the changes turned violent on Monday night, with shots fired at security forces, vehicles torched and shops looted in the worst unrest the French overseas territory has seen since the 1980s.

In response, authorities deployed a heavy security contingent, imposed a curfew, banned public gatherings and closed the main airport.

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Jasin on May 15th, 2024 at 3:25pm
Racism by Kanaks against white Caldoches will be next.

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Bobby. on May 15th, 2024 at 3:27pm

Jasin wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 3:25pm:
Racism by Kanaks against white Caldoches will be next.



White people are not safe in New Caledonia:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-15/riots-rock-france-new-caledonia-over-voting-reform/103848752
The Australian federal government said it was monitoring
the situation closely and advised Australian travellers to
exercise a "high degree of caution" in Noumea
and avoid demonstrations and public gatherings.

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Bobby. on May 15th, 2024 at 3:33pm
Kanaks:




https://indigenouspeoplenet.wordpress.com/2023/03/28/mythologies-of-the-kanak-people/

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on May 15th, 2024 at 3:35pm
We need a few warriors who look like that here... o the right side of history.

Oh - I get it - you can't allow that other tribe across there to vote as well!!!  Lot of that going around...

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Bobby. on May 15th, 2024 at 3:57pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 3:35pm:
We need a few warriors who look like that here... o the right side of history.

Oh - I get it - you can't allow that other tribe across there to vote as well!!!  Lot of that going around...



The natives are causing trouble again.

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Bobby. on May 15th, 2024 at 6:37pm
Latest news ABC 24.

3 people murdered in the violence so far.    :o

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Jasin on May 15th, 2024 at 6:39pm

Bobby. wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 3:33pm:
Kanaks:




https://indigenouspeoplenet.wordpress.com/2023/03/28/mythologies-of-the-kanak-people/

They look like Philipinos - are you sure they're 'Melanesian' Kanaks?

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Frank on May 15th, 2024 at 7:23pm
Imagine whites rioting in Europe, Australia, North America against giving the vote to non white immigrants.

Brown people rioting - good.
White people rioting for the same - wacism.


Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Bobby. on May 15th, 2024 at 10:14pm

Jasin wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 6:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 3:33pm:
Kanaks:




https://indigenouspeoplenet.wordpress.com/2023/03/28/mythologies-of-the-kanak-people/

They look like Philipinos - are you sure they're 'Melanesian' Kanaks?



I'm not sure -
I thought they were Polynesians?

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Jasin on May 15th, 2024 at 10:25pm
No. Kanaks are Melanesians (like Papuans). New Caledonia is part of Melanesia, not Polynesia (or Micronesia).
Kanaks are Coconuts or Fuzzy-wuzzies. Polynesians are Pineapples.
Kanaks have Negroid in them. Polynesians have Mongoloid in them. Kanaks are Black. Polynesians are Yellow.

Indians are Caucasoid. Even the Dravidians.
They have 'wavy' hair follicles.
Mongoloids have 'straight' hair follicles
Negroids have 'curly' hair follicles.
Even a European with very curly or very straight looking hair actually has 'wavy' hair follicles - proven by microscopes.

That's why the Tasmanian Aborigines looked more like Papuans because the Negrito Aborigines were here long before the Indian looking Carpentarian Aborigines from 40,000 years ago, with their 'wavy' hair Caucasoid look.

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Bobby. on May 15th, 2024 at 10:53pm
Hi JaSin,
but some of them look like Maoris.   :-/

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Jasin on May 15th, 2024 at 10:56pm
I'm sure a lot of Polynesians have moved there in the last 50 years, as they have here. There's even Polynesians in Port Moresby. But the indigenous or first peoples were the Melanesians.

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Bobby. on May 16th, 2024 at 3:03pm

Jasin wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 10:56pm:
I'm sure a lot of Polynesians have moved there in the last 50 years, as they have here. There's even Polynesians in Port Moresby. But the indigenous or first peoples were the Melanesians.



sure.

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Bobby. on May 16th, 2024 at 3:04pm
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-16/france-declares-state-of-emergency-on-new-caledonia-amid-riots/103853654

    In short: France has declared a state of emergency in the Pacific territory of New Caledonia.

    Riots have taken hold after the French parliament supported voting reforms for the territory earlier this week.

    A police officer has become the fourth person to die amid the unrest after being shot.

France has declared a state of emergency in the Pacific territory of New Caledonia, after four people including a police officer were killed in riots over voting reform in the French-ruled archipelago.

The move came as the French government confirmed an additional 500 members of the French national police and Gendarmerie were being sent there to try and quell the violence.

The state of emergency will last 12 days and give authorities additional powers to ban gatherings and forbid people from moving around.

The last time France imposed such measures on one of its overseas territories was in 1985, also in New Caledonia, the Interior Ministry said.

Rioters torched vehicles and businesses and looted stores, prompting extra police to be sent from France to support the 1,800 already there.

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Gnads on May 16th, 2024 at 5:27pm

Bobby. wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 3:33pm:
Kanaks:




https://indigenouspeoplenet.wordpress.com/2023/03/28/mythologies-of-the-kanak-people/



You dickhead that photo is not of New Caledonian Kanaks ...

that photo is of Sth American Indigenous tribal people. ::) It's in the wrong section regarding New Caledonia.

There are other tribal people around the world that use "Kanak" as their name.

Kanaks of New Caledonia are Melanesian ... they were one of the Pacific Islands peoples Blackbirded into QLD for the Sugar Plantations/Farms as indentured(called slave) labour.

Melanesian like Papuans, Solomon Islanders, people from Vanuatu and Fiji.

You should learn to tell the difference.

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Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Gnads on May 16th, 2024 at 5:30pm

Jasin wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 6:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 3:33pm:
Kanaks:




https://indigenouspeoplenet.wordpress.com/2023/03/28/mythologies-of-the-kanak-people/

They look like Philipinos - are you sure they're 'Melanesian' Kanaks?


They're not Filipinos either .. they're Sth American Indians.

Booby wouldn't have a clue .... you?  ;D

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Gnads on May 16th, 2024 at 5:31pm

Bobby. wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 10:14pm:

Jasin wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 6:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 3:33pm:
Kanaks:




https://indigenouspeoplenet.wordpress.com/2023/03/28/mythologies-of-the-kanak-people/

They look like Philipinos - are you sure they're 'Melanesian' Kanaks?



I'm not sure -
I thought they were Polynesians?


Dickhead ... Kanaks are Melanesian

And the photo looks nothing like Polynesians either.

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Gnads on May 16th, 2024 at 5:32pm

Bobby. wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 10:53pm:
Hi JaSin,
but some of them look like Maoris.   :-/


Do not.

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Bobby. on May 16th, 2024 at 5:34pm

Gnads wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 5:30pm:

Jasin wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 6:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 3:33pm:
Kanaks:




https://indigenouspeoplenet.wordpress.com/2023/03/28/mythologies-of-the-kanak-people/

They look like Philipinos - are you sure they're 'Melanesian' Kanaks?


They're not Filipinos either .. they're Sth American Indians.

Bobby wouldn't have a clue .... you?  ;D



It says they are and there are many pics:


Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Gnads on May 16th, 2024 at 6:14pm

Bobby. wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 5:34pm:

Gnads wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 5:30pm:

Jasin wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 6:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 3:33pm:
Kanaks:




https://indigenouspeoplenet.wordpress.com/2023/03/28/mythologies-of-the-kanak-people/

They look like Philipinos - are you sure they're 'Melanesian' Kanaks?


They're not Filipinos either .. they're Sth American Indians.

Bobby wouldn't have a clue .... you?  ;D



It says they are and there are many pics:




Out of all the pics you had to choose from you picked the wrong one.

Why? ...... because you wouldn't know Arthur from Martha.

In case it has escaped you not everything listed on the internet is true.

Your photo was of Central/ Sth American native peoples.

Out of all the ones there you picked the only non applicable ring-in.  ;D

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Bobby. on May 16th, 2024 at 9:00pm

Gnads wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 6:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 5:34pm:

Gnads wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 5:30pm:

Jasin wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 6:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 3:33pm:
Kanaks:




https://indigenouspeoplenet.wordpress.com/2023/03/28/mythologies-of-the-kanak-people/

They look like Philipinos - are you sure they're 'Melanesian' Kanaks?


They're not Filipinos either .. they're Sth American Indians.

Bobby wouldn't have a clue .... you?  ;D



It says they are and there are many pics:




Out of all the pics you had to choose from you picked the wrong one.

Why? ...... because you wouldn't know Arthur from Martha.

In case it has escaped you not everything listed on the internet is true.

Your photo was of Central/ Sth American native peoples.

Out of all the ones there you picked the only non applicable ring-in.  ;D



They all look the same to me.

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Gnads on May 17th, 2024 at 9:39am

Bobby. wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 9:00pm:

Gnads wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 6:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 5:34pm:

Gnads wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 5:30pm:

Jasin wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 6:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 3:33pm:
Kanaks:




https://indigenouspeoplenet.wordpress.com/2023/03/28/mythologies-of-the-kanak-people/

They look like Philipinos - are you sure they're 'Melanesian' Kanaks?


They're not Filipinos either .. they're Sth American Indians.

Bobby wouldn't have a clue .... you?  ;D



It says they are and there are many pics:




Out of all the pics you had to choose from you picked the wrong one.

Why? ...... because you wouldn't know Arthur from Martha.

In case it has escaped you not everything listed on the internet is true.

Your photo was of Central/ Sth American native peoples.

Out of all the ones there you picked the only non applicable ring-in.  ;D



They all look the same to me.



Now now....thats wacist.

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Bobby. on May 17th, 2024 at 2:38pm
https://ictnews.org/news/violence-rages-in-new-caledonia-2-indigenous-among-dead

posted 7 hours ago:

French authorities in New Caledonia and the interior ministry in Paris said
five people, including two police officers, were killed
after protests earlier this week over voting reforms pushed by President Emmanuel Macron's government turned deadly.

At least 60 members of the security forces were injured
and 214 people were arrested

over clashes with police, arson and looting Thursday, the territory's top French official, High Commissioner Louis Le Franc, said.

"Everything is being done to restore order and calm that Caledonians deserve," French Prime Minister Gabriel Attal said after a meeting at the Elysee presidential palace in Paris.

He said that in addition to 1,700 security forces troops that have already been deployed to help police, 1,000 more are on the way but the situation "remains very tense, with looting, riots, arson and attacks, which are unbearable and unspeakable."

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by thegreatdivide on May 17th, 2024 at 2:53pm
Why are Kanaks (indigenous N. Caledonians) fighting one another (as opposed to fighting the French 'oppressor')?

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Bobby. on May 17th, 2024 at 3:00pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
Why are Kanaks (indigenous N. Caledonians) fighting one another (as opposed to fighting the French 'oppressor')?



Are they?
I thought it was the Kanaks versus the cops?

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by thegreatdivide on May 17th, 2024 at 3:20pm

Bobby. wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 3:00pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
Why are Kanaks (indigenous N. Caledonians) fighting one another (as opposed to fighting the French 'oppressor')?



Are they?
I thought it was the Kanaks versus the cops?


Ah...thanks, I haven't been following the situation closely.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/16/why-are-protests-against-france-raging-in-new-caledonia#:~:text=What%20prompted%20the%20riots%3F,a%20vote%20of%20351%20%E2%80%93%20153.

After France occupied the territory in 1853, Paris purposefully populated it with French citizens, meaning Kanak communities now make up only 40 percent of the population, while the Caldoches – local people of mostly French descent – make up about 25 percent. The rest of the population is made up of newer French arrivals, people from the French island territory of Wallis and Futuna and from Tahiti, as well as a mix of people from Indonesia, Vietnam and other Asian countries.

This week’s changes would add thousands of these newer French arrivals – at least 40,000 have arrived since 1998 according to official figures – to the country’s electoral list, which Indigenous groups say will undermine their push for self-rule.


Ah, the same old story, the colonizer wants to retain his sovereignty.

But local Kanak  businesses and property are no doubt damaged in the riots as well.



Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Bobby. on May 17th, 2024 at 3:59pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 3:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 3:00pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
Why are Kanaks (indigenous N. Caledonians) fighting one another (as opposed to fighting the French 'oppressor')?



Are they?
I thought it was the Kanaks versus the cops?


Ah...thanks, I haven't been following the situation closely.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/16/why-are-protests-against-france-raging-in-new-caledonia#:~:text=What%20prompted%20the%20riots%3F,a%20vote%20of%20351%20%E2%80%93%20153.

After France occupied the territory in 1853, Paris purposefully populated it with French citizens, meaning Kanak communities now make up only 40 percent of the population, while the Caldoches – local people of mostly French descent – make up about 25 percent. The rest of the population is made up of newer French arrivals, people from the French island territory of Wallis and Futuna and from Tahiti, as well as a mix of people from Indonesia, Vietnam and other Asian countries.

This week’s changes would add thousands of these newer French arrivals – at least 40,000 have arrived since 1998 according to official figures – to the country’s electoral list, which Indigenous groups say will undermine their push for self-rule.


Ah, the same old story, the colonizer wants to retain his sovereignty.

But local Kanak  businesses and property are no doubt damaged in the riots as well.



Correct.
I have a feeling that the Kanaks are a lot better off under French rule
than a failed, primitive society as they would have been without them.
Ungrateful natives.

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Sophia on May 17th, 2024 at 6:58pm
Been there twice, last time was 2018.
Such an expensive place. A pair of plain rubber nothing special thongs was $40!
What’s happening to visiting tourists? I saw something about them being stuck there and can’t get out.
A hen’s party for one.
Actually I’m surprised at the level of protesting going on there. I never would have thought it to happen there and at the level of destruction.



Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Bobby. on May 17th, 2024 at 8:54pm

Sophia wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 6:58pm:
Been there twice, last time was 2018.
Such an expensive place. A pair of plain rubber nothing special thongs was $40!
What’s happening to visiting tourists? I saw something about them being stuck there and can’t get out.
A hen’s party for one.
Actually I’m surprised at the level of protesting going on there. I never would have thought it to happen there and at the level of destruction.



I was at the airport there once - that's all.
I wanted to go there one day for a holiday but yes the prices were too expensive for everything:
hotels, food, shopping etc.

Title: Re: Kanaks on rampage in New Caledonia.
Post by Gnads on May 18th, 2024 at 6:19am

thegreatdivide wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
Why are Kanaks (indigenous N. Caledonians) fighting one another (as opposed to fighting the French 'oppressor')?


Even though you said you weren't following the story..... how on earth did that idea even enter your head?

French oppressors ey?  ::)

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