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Title: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2024 at 9:15pm
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2024/04/politics/trump-campaign-promises-dg/
Promises Donald Trump has made so far in his campaign for a second term By Piper Hudspeth Blackburn, Abby Turner, Will Mullery and Kenneth Uzquiano, CNN Published April 20, 2024 Immigration Trump has made immigration and the border a central campaign issue, successfully pressuring Republicans to reject a major bipartisan border deal last month and making a trip to the southern border on February 29, where he touted his previous hard-line immigration policies. In a Des Moines Register op-ed published roughly a week before winning the Iowa caucuses in January, Trump vowed to use the “Alien Enemies Act to remove known or suspected gang members, drug dealers, or cartel members from the United States.” “We will shift massive portions of federal law enforcement to immigration enforcement — including parts of the DEA, ATF, FBI, and DHS,” he wrote. In a video posted on Truth Social in late February before his border visit, Trump also promised to “carry out the largest domestic deportation operation in American history.” We will shift massive portions of federal law enforcement to immigration enforcement — including parts of the DEA, ATF, FBI, and DHS.” After the Israel-Hamas war began last October, Trump also promised to terminate the visas of “Hamas’ sympathizers.” “We’ll get them off our college campuses, out of our cities and get them the hell out of our country, if that’s OK with you,” he added. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2024 at 9:16pm Drug cartels The former president has also made waging “war” on drug cartels a priority for his second term. If elected, Trump said in his November 2022 campaign announcement that he would ask Congress to ensure that drug smugglers and human traffickers can receive the death penalty for their “heinous acts.” Trump also vowed to “take down” drug cartels by imposing naval embargos on cartels, cutting off cartels’ access to global financial systems and using special forces within the Department of Defense to damage the cartels’ leadership. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2024 at 9:17pm Justice system Trump has promised to use the Department of Justice to attack critics and former allies. In several videos and speeches, the former president also laid out plans to gut the current justice system by firing “radical Marxist prosecutors that are destroying America.” “I will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the United States of America, Joe Biden, and the entire Biden crime family,” Trump said in June 2023 remarks. “I will totally obliterate the Deep State.” Trump said in a campaign video last year that he would reinstate a 2020 executive order to remove “rogue” bureaucrats and propose a constitutional amendment for term limits on members of Congress. I will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the United States of America, Joe Biden, and the entire Biden crime family.” |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2024 at 9:17pm
Crime
Trump said in two February 2023 campaign videos that if “Marxist” prosecutors refuse to charge crimes and surrender “our cities to violent criminals,” he “will not hesitate to send in federal law enforcement to restore peace and public safety.” Trump added that he would instruct the Department of Justice to open civil rights investigations into “radical left” prosecutors’ offices that engaged in racial enforcement of the law, encourage Congress to use their legal authority over Washington, DC, to restore “law and order” and overhaul federal standards of disciplining minors to address rising crimes like carjackings. Addressing policies made in what Trump calls the “Democrats’ war on police,” the former president vowed in a campaign video that he would pass a “record investment” to hire and retrain police, strengthen protections like qualified immunity, increase penalties for assaulting law enforcement officers and deploy the National Guard when local law enforcement “refuses to act.” The former president added that he would require law enforcement agencies that receive money from his funding investment or the Department of Justice to use “proven common sense” measures such as stop-and-frisk. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2024 at 9:18pm
Foreign policy
Trump has continued his attacks against member countries of NATO, a European and North American defense alliance. At a South Carolina rally last month, Trump said he would not abide by the alliance’s collective-defense clause and would encourage Russia to do “whatever the hell they want” if a member country didn’t meet spending guidelines. “NATO was busted until I came along,” Trump said. “I said, ‘Everybody’s gonna pay.’ They said, ‘Well, if we don’t pay, are you still going to protect us?’ I said, ‘Absolutely not.’ They couldn’t believe the answer.” The former president has also previously pledged to end the war in Ukraine, though he’s offered no details on how he would do so. “Shortly after I win the presidency, I will have the horrible war between Russia and Ukraine settled,” Trump said at a New Hampshire campaign event last year, adding in another speech that it would take him “no longer than one day” to settle the war if elected. NATO was busted until I came along. I said, ‘Everybody’s gonna pay.’ They said, ‘Well, if we don’t pay, are you still going to protect us?’ I said, ‘Absolutely not.’” |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2024 at 9:20pm Economy Trump has promised to extend the cuts from his 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, notably the TCJA’s individual income tax breaks. The former president has also talked about reducing the corporate tax rate from the current 21% to 15%. “I will make the Trump tax cuts the largest tax cut in history,” the former president said last month at the Black Conservative Federation’s Honors Gala in South Carolina. “We’ll make it permanent and give you a new economic boom.” I will make the Trump tax cuts the largest tax cut in history.” Trump has also pledged to repeal Biden’s tax hikes, “immediately tackle” inflation and end what he called Biden’s “war” on American energy production. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2024 at 9:21pm Trade At the same rally in South Carolina, Trump pledged to impose “stiff penalties on China and other trade abusers.” “It’s called you screw us, and we screw you,” Trump said. Under his proposed “Trump Reciprocal Trade Act,” the former president said if other countries impose tariffs on the US, the country would impose “a reciprocal, identical” tariff right back. It was the same pledge Trump made in a campaign video in 2023: to impose the same tariffs that other countries may impose on the US on those countries. The goal, the former president said then, is to get other countries to drop their tariffs. It’s called you screw us, and we screw you.” As part of a larger strategy to bring jobs back into the US, Trump also said he would implement his so-called “America First” trade agenda if elected. By setting universal baseline tariffs on a majority of foreign goods, the former president said Americans would see taxes decrease as tariffs increase. His proposal also includes a four-year plan to phase out all Chinese imports of essential goods, as well as stopping China from buying up America and stopping the investment of US companies in China. Trump also said in February that he would consider imposing a tariff upward of 60% on all Chinese imports if he’s reelected. The former president has particularly focused on China, vowing in a January 2023 campaign video to restrict Chinese ownership of US infrastructure such as energy, technology, telecommunications and natural resources. Trump also said he would force the Chinese to sell current holdings that may put national security at risk. “Economic security is national security,” he said. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by John Smith on Apr 26th, 2024 at 9:26pm
Has he given up on the wall? ;D
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Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2024 at 9:28pm John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2024 at 9:26pm:
Trump also promised to “carry out the largest domestic deportation operation in American history.” He's gunna send back 20 million of them across the Southern border. What more do you want? |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by John Smith on Apr 26th, 2024 at 9:35pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2024 at 9:28pm:
But he didn't say what he was sending 20m off into Mexico Goober. I reckon it's out of his sneakers or his bible. Which one do you think he's talking about? |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2024 at 10:07pm John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2024 at 9:35pm:
I can't find it just now. I did see that figure once. However: https://www.afr.com/world/north-america/how-immigration-turned-into-a-political-headache-for-biden-20240229-p5f8rz Mar 1, 2024 More than 9 million illegal immigrants have crossed the border since Biden took office, heaping pressure on housing, jobs, hospitals and schools and triggering a spate of 33,000 migrant crimes in 2023 according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 26th, 2024 at 10:08pm
last time he promised to pay off the debt in his term.
he increased it by 30% |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2024 at 10:26pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 26th, 2024 at 10:08pm:
All people can do is pray that this time he'll keep his election promises. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 26th, 2024 at 10:29pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 26th, 2024 at 10:08pm:
Well, there is that, but last time he promised to build a big, beautiful wall from coast to shining coast, "this big, with steel reinforcement, can't go over it, can't go under it", he settled on 26 miles worth of steel slats instead. Last time he promised to end child trafficking, he decided to wish Ghislaine Maxwell well. But yes, as Bobby says, he's promised to extend his 2016 tax cuts. You know, the same cuts set to cynically expire at the end of his second term, which he failed to win. On crime, Bobby, that's nice. Prosecute it. Problem is, he's committed so many he's already been prosecuted himself. Perhaps he'd prefer to go soft on crime, it's hard to say. Has he ruled out pardoning himself in 2025 yet, Bobby? Cheers. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2024 at 10:36pm Karnal wrote on Apr 26th, 2024 at 10:29pm:
Karnal, You wanted to know his promises - I posted some of them from here: https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2024/04/politics/trump-campaign-promises-dg/ is that still not good enough for you? |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 27th, 2024 at 1:46am Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2024 at 10:36pm:
What do you think, Bobby? He failed on his promises the first time round. Every last one. If you can think of a single core promise he delivered on, I'll eat my hat. Now, that's what we call a failed former president. The promises you've posted here are ridiculous. He's promising to revoke every Biden policy promoting the chemical castration and sexual mutilation of our youth? Or how about promising to ban the abortion of children after they're born? Or promising to use the Department Of Justice to prosecute crime? Or deploy the National Guard when local law enforcement “refuses to act"? He can't do that without a request - from local law enforcement. He begged the city of Portland to let him send troops in last time. The governor laughed in his face. And when Congress asked him for help during Jan 6, he ignored them. You've cut and pasted a link, Bobby. What do you think of its contents? That's a question. Up for an answer? We'll reserve the right for supplementaries. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2024 at 6:24am Karnal wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 1:46am:
Dear Matty/Karnal/Chimp, many blessings. Most politicians fail at delivering all their promises. Maybe you could tell us which promises Trump kept? Also - CNN is a news service hated by Trump - he calls it fake news - so I doubt whether Trump would accept that, that article is true. here again: https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2024/04/politics/trump-campaign-promises-dg/ namaste |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by aquascoot on Apr 27th, 2024 at 6:34am Karnal wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 1:46am:
if hes that bad, why is he still neck and neck in the polls ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D because real americans (millions of them) dislike smug lefties like you and gweggy, more then they dislike the 'entertainer in chief" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1iUhcx9enM |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2024 at 6:45am aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 6:34am:
Greggy and Matty are forgiven, namaste |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27th, 2024 at 7:36am aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 6:34am:
More real Americans voted for both Hillary and Joe than Trump-the-rapist. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27th, 2024 at 7:39am Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2024 at 10:26pm:
Has he promised to stop raping people? |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2024 at 3:25pm
Trump has support - even from Democrats:
https://modernity.news/2024/04/26/axios-poll-42-of-democrats-support-harsh-mass-deportation-of-illegals/ 25 April 2024. A major poll conducted by Axios/Harris has found that a majority of Americans support mass deportation of illegal immigrants, and a whopping 42 percent of Democrats are on board with it. The survey noted that 51 percent overall support what it describes as a “harsh” plan, which has been championed by Donald Trump, with 68 per cent of Republicans and 46 per cent of independents agreeing. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27th, 2024 at 3:40pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 3:25pm:
How can there be illegal immigrants in the US? Trump built a big beautiful wall that nobody could penetrate. This must be fake news, Bobby. Trump wouldn't lie. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2024 at 3:44pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 3:40pm:
It's like: rats, mice or rabbits - you can't get them all and they breed too. :o |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 27th, 2024 at 4:23pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 6:24am:
I just asked you that, Bobby. You refused to say, so here's my supplementary. I think we'll do this as a multiple choice, don't you? You won't say which promises your DL kept because: a) You've gone all shy. b) You're stalling for time while you edit your response and double-check your references. c) It's top secret. We'll find out in 40 years, when its declassified. d) Your DL didn't actually keep his promises. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27th, 2024 at 4:24pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 3:44pm:
And some, I assume, are good people. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2024 at 4:29pm Karnal wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 4:23pm:
Trump failed to keep some of his promises because he never had his proper full 8 year term - the election was stolen from him. He'll complete it starting Jan 2025. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2024 at 4:31pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 4:24pm:
But there are not many engineers and rocket scientists amongst them are there? |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 27th, 2024 at 4:50pm aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 6:34am:
You've gone all shy, Aquascoot. You can't think of a single core promise kept by your DL. Lock her up, build the wall, drain the swamp... Restore the budget to surplus in one term, build great infrastructure like we've never seen before, lower crime like we've ever seen before, return jobs lost to Mexico and Chi-na, balance foreign terms of trade, bring prayer back to schools, make people say Merry Christmas, make America strong again, make America safe again, make America rich again, make America great again... The big fella's now saying America is finished. Bobby's spreading the word in his other thread. Not only did your DL achieve none of the things he promised, Sleepy Joe's now getting them done, building infrastructure, starting a manufacturing boom, restoring terms of trade, and yes, bringing jobs and manufacturing plants back from Mexico and Chi-na - probably DL's most core commitment of all. My offer still stands. If you can prove any of this wrong, I'll eat my hat. Until then, I'd like to request that you pack an extra lunch box and take Bobby off to Maccas with you. When your DL loses in November, Bobby's going to have a lot of time to fill. After all, when the big fella goes down, there's no coming back. Everything you've been saying for the past nine years - over. I'm just saying it would be nice to give Bobby something to do, that's all. You? |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 27th, 2024 at 5:05pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 4:29pm:
He was going to restore the budget to surplus in one term, Bobby. We told you, remember? There's Hillary's promises and there's your DL's. We even showed you the independent audits, fully costed. The big fella's promises are impossible, we said. No, you said, he'll do it. How? We said. Doesn't matter, you said. In one term? We said. Yes, you said. Here's the Price Waterhouse costings, we said. They show America in a far worse state if the big fella becomes prez. Trillions more in debt. Productivity worse. Terms of trade the same, manufacturing remaining in Chi-na. The income gap widening, with a massive transfer of wealth to the rich. All of these things came to pass, before covid hit. They're wrong, you said. How? We said. You wouldn't say, so we double-checked. You really say he's going to restore the budget to surplus in one term, do you? Yes, you said. Have you read the Art of the Deal? Yes, we said. Have you? You didn't answer. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 27th, 2024 at 5:38pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 3:25pm:
And as we keep telling you, your DL can't deport anyone with a case before the courts. He can't deport anyone without their country of origin consenting to their return, and he can't deport them anywhere else. He can't, for example, deport Iranians or Chinese to Mexico. This ignores the Refugee Convention, of course, for people with claims of asylum. Getting out of that would require legislative changes, so he'd need Congress and the Senate. Neither the Democratic or Republican parties support such a policy. Withdrawing from the Refugee Treaty is not going to happen. Only 55% of illegal border crossers are Mexicans. They can simply be returned by bus, which is what happens now. The Biden administration is already more effective in this area than the previous Trump administration. It doesn't matter whether Americans support "mass deportations" or not. Yet again, we're showing you that your DL will not - and cannot - deliver on his promises. If he hypothetically got in and served a full term, we'd be having exactly the same discussion we're having with you now, in 2029: if you can show us one campaign promise he's delivered on, I'll eat my hat. But do you know? We won't. Aquascoot's gonna take you out to Maccas. In November, you'll be off with your Master, truckin'. When your DL goes, his lies will go with him. Sure, we'll still have Fox, Tucker and guys like Sloppy Steve, and we'll still have the mendacious posters here. But we won't have the industrial-scale hijacking of the most important democracy in the world. When your DL's done, we'll have Vlad and Xi, but we won't have the autocrats within. America will have a lot of cleaning up to do, and you? With your DL done, you'll be free to keep on. ![]() |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27th, 2024 at 6:24pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 4:31pm:
I don't know, are there? You're telling the story here, Bobby. What are their occupations, and how did you find them out? We're all curious. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2024 at 8:33pm Karnal wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 5:05pm:
You'll see - you doubting Thomas. |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2024 at 9:15pm
https://www.rt.com/news/596630-trump-advisers-dollar-sanctions/
26 Apr, 2024 13:07 Trump plans to sanction countries for refusing to use dollar – Bloomberg Advisers to the former US president are considering penalties for nations seeking to trade in national currencies, the outlet has reported . Economic aides to former US President Donald Trump are looking for options to stop countries from shifting away from the US dollar as it faces a growing challenge from emerging markets, including BRICS nations, Bloomberg reported on Friday. The presumptive Republican nominee for the November presidential election and his team are discussing penalties against both allies and adversaries who seek to divert their trade from the greenback to other currencies. The options could include export controls, currency manipulation charges, and tariffs, the outlet said, citing people familiar with the matter. The global trend toward using national currencies in trade instead of the dollar gained significant momentum after Russia was cut off from the Western financial system and had its foreign reserves frozen in 2022, as part of Ukraine-related sanctions. A bill with provisions authorizing the US to confiscate frozen Russian assets, which Biden signed on Wednesday, could further spur de-dollarization, financial experts have warned. The so-called REPO Act, which was incorporated in the $61 billion military aid package for Kiev, authorized the US president to seize Russian state assets held in American banks. As quoted by Bloomberg, Trump warned on Thursday that with US President Joe Biden, “you’re going to lose the dollar as the standard. That’ll be like losing the biggest war we’ve ever lost.” |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 27th, 2024 at 9:29pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 8:33pm:
We have seen. And we've shown you, so now you know. You got it wrong in 2016, 2020 and now you've got it wrong in 2024. No Storm, no swamp, no-thing. Bobby, you're done. You can either confess, change your ways and say ah, or you can keep on. I hazard a guess which way you'll go. ![]() |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 27th, 2024 at 9:33pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 9:15pm:
A policy proposal. Good show, Bobby. What do you think of it? That's Russia Today, by the way. Here's the Bloomberg article. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-25/trump-advisers-discuss-penalties-for-nations-that-de-dollarize?embedded-checkout=true |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2024 at 9:53pm Karnal wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 9:33pm:
The original article is paywalled. The USA is in big trouble due to ideas like BRICS. Only Trump can save them. If you were a Yank - who would you vote for? |
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 election promises: Post by Mattyfisk on Apr 28th, 2024 at 2:25am Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 9:53pm:
We're Australians. I'm asking what you think of Uncle trade sanctioning countries who don't buy and sell in his money. Should Australia switch to the US dollar, or what? It's a short answer question, Bobby. You have to say what you think. |
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