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Message started by Daves2017 on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 6:16pm

Title: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Daves2017 on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 6:16pm
Just weeks before Molly Ticehurst was found dead in a NSW home, the man accused of her murder was released on bail over a series of allegations of sexual assault against her.

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Valkie on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 6:55pm
There are calls for the magistrate to be sacked.

This needs to happen more often.

Criminals need to be punished for their crimes

Gaol time, real gaol time.
Two blankets
Two sets of clothes
No shoes
No entertainment other than a copy of the bible
No exercise, stay in their cells.
One meal a day, and only enough to survive on, not thrive on.
Water as the only drink
No heating or cooling

Have the same consideration for them as they have for their victims.

And reintroduce the death penalty for serious crimes.

3 strikes and it's life in prison
With adult time for adult crime regardless of age or race.


Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by chimera on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 7:10pm
Too right.
What crimes had the man committed before this?

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 7:22pm

Valkie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 6:55pm:
There are calls for the magistrate to be sacked.

This needs to happen more often.

Criminals need to be punished for their crimes

Gaol time, real gaol time.
Two blankets
Two sets of clothes
No shoes
No entertainment other than a copy of the bible
No exercise, stay in their cells.
One meal a day, and only enough to survive on, not thrive on.
Water as the only drink
No heating or cooling

Have the same consideration for them as they have for their victims.

And reintroduce the death penalty for serious crimes.

3 strikes and it's life in prison
With adult time for adult crime regardless of age or race.



Bring back the rope:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZTe-_yqmhQ

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Setanta on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 9:13pm

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 6:16pm:
Just weeks before Molly Ticehurst was found dead in a NSW home, the man accused of her murder was released on bail over a series of allegations of sexual assault against her.


Perhaps you could look at Orange Court records for the dates and names in this article.

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 9:38pm
Yeah - he's got the look....

How long have I been calling for a royal commission into the judiciary and into jurisprudence?  The faults cut so many ways it is beyond funny...

I used to live in a street named Ticehurst Close - lots of family ties with Orange.

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by chimera on Apr 24th, 2024 at 3:20am
Often a judge will hold a trial with a verdict. He then locks up a person in jail. It's a primitive idea but an improvement on witch hunts based on looks.

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Daves2017 on Apr 24th, 2024 at 9:33am

Setanta wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 9:13pm:
[quote author=Daves2017 link=1713860162/0#0 date=1713860162]Just weeks before Molly Ticehurst was found dead in a NSW home, the man accused of her murder was released on bail over a series of allegations of sexual assault against her.


Perhaps you could look at Orange Court records for the dates and names in

I don’t have access, I wonder why the judges name isn’t made public?

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by chimera on Apr 24th, 2024 at 10:03am
What rule has the judge broken?

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Alinta on Apr 24th, 2024 at 11:45am
Daves, check out the Sydney Morning Herald.

Not a Judge's decision - was made by the Court Registrar. An interim order. A massive fail yet again.

Seems there's always talk of change but it never eventuates. I understand Chris Minns has it on his agenda........we can all live in hope I guess.

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Captain Caveman on Apr 24th, 2024 at 11:59am

chimera wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 10:03am:
What rule has the judge broken?



Poor judging.

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Daves2017 on Apr 25th, 2024 at 8:40am
“Daniel Billings was charged with stalking, rape and animal cruelty. Police said he’d threatened his ex-partner. There was no magistrate, so a registrar gave him bail.”
“ smh

What was the registrar name?

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by chimera on Apr 25th, 2024 at 9:51am

Captain Caveman wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 11:59am:

chimera wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 10:03am:
What rule has the judge broken?

Poor judging.

'If you have been remanded in New South Wales on a charge of sexual assault, you may want to apply for bail. Go To Court Lawyers can help you to do so. Decisions about bail in New South Wales are made under the Bail Act 2013'.

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Alinta on Apr 25th, 2024 at 11:29am

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 8:40am:
“Daniel Billings was charged with stalking, rape and animal cruelty. Police said he’d threatened his ex-partner. There was no magistrate, so a registrar gave him bail.”
“ smh

What was the registrar name?


As I previously posted, check out the SMH. It is there.

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Daves2017 on Apr 25th, 2024 at 1:09pm
I will read it again, obviously I’ve missed it and thank you for sharing the link.

Obviously I believe the registrar should be sacked and perhaps facing civil chargers for the decision to free him from prison and therefore allow him to kill.

Until such time that our judicial system is held accountable for their mistakes these tragic events will continue and snowball.

I wonder what party would be brave enough to campaign at the next election on judicial reform?

They would have my vote!

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Daves2017 on Apr 25th, 2024 at 1:15pm

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 1:09pm:
I will read it again, obviously I’ve missed it and thank you for sharing the link.
Edit- there is no mention of the name of the person who allowed him to be free and murder in your link .

I can quote Minns “ “Someone’s got to be responsible.”
“ smh.

So who was responsible and what is there name and why isn’t it available in the media given the horrors of this murder?

Obviously I believe the registrar should be sacked and perhaps facing civil chargers for the decision to free him from prison and therefore allow him to kill.

Until such time that our judicial system is held accountable for their mistakes these tragic events will continue and snowball.

I wonder what party would be brave enough to campaign at the next election on judicial reform?

They would have my vote!


Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Black Orchid on Apr 25th, 2024 at 2:47pm
A Registrar should have no business making such a decision in cases like this.  It should have been held over until a Magistrate was available.

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Daves2017 on Apr 25th, 2024 at 6:44pm
Very difficult to find a name responsible.

It’s that well covered up  by the government I assume it must be someone of Islamic faith?

This is the only name I can find so far -

Executive Director and Principal Registrar. Chris D'Aeth.


Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by chimera on Apr 25th, 2024 at 7:40pm
'Chiovetti joined a panel of five “change instigators” in the legal profession who encouraged NSW lawyers to get over their fear of change and embrace the productivity and cost efficiencies that agile work technologies could offer.

The panel included .. Chris D’Aeth, Executive Director and Principal Registrar at the Supreme Court of NSW, .Chris D’Aeth said he believed even the most traditional legal establishments – the courts – could adapt and benefit from agile technologies'.

Magistrates are so yesterday, the pc does it quicker.

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Daves2017 on Apr 25th, 2024 at 8:08pm
Lots of money spent on letting murders walk free?


Division 2—Salary and allowances of judicial officers 11 Base salary
The following table (Table 2A) sets out, for a person (a judicial officer) who holds an office specified in column 1:
(a) the full-time base salary (if any), per year, of the judicial officer; and
(b) the travel tier (if any) that applies to the judicial officer for the purposes of the official travel determination.
   Table 2A—Full-time base salary for judicial officers
Column 1 Column 2 Office Full-time
Column 3 Travel tier
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
No travel tier
      High Court—Chief Justice
High Court—Justice
Federal Court—Chief Justice Federal Court—Judge
Family Court—Chief Justice
Family Court—Deputy Chief Justice Family Court—Judge
Federal Circuit Court—Chief Judge
Federal Circuit Court—Judge
Copyright Tribunal of Australia—President
Copyright Tribunal of Australia—Deputy President (Judicial) Australian Competition Tribunal—President
Australian Law Reform Commission—President (Judicial) AAT—President
National Native Title Tribunal—President (Judicial) Defence Force Discipline Appeal Tribunal—President
base salary
$608,150 $551,880 $514,980 $468,020 $514,980 $481,850 $468,020 $468,020 $394,980 $468,020
Nil $468,020 $468,020 $468,020 $468,020 Nil
                                                Note: The reference to a Judge of the Family Court includes a Judge assigned to the Appeal Division of the Family Court and a Senior Judge of the Family Court.
12 Additional allowances
A sitting Judge who also holds any of the following offices on a part-time basis is to be provided with an additional expense allowance of $2,421 per year

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by chimera on Apr 25th, 2024 at 8:23pm
He wasn't actually a murderer or even charged as one. He was accused of rape with no trial.

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by mothra on Apr 26th, 2024 at 7:58am
What do you want their name for? So you can send them a stern letter?

Or hey, better ... so every loony with a vigilante complex can send them death threats and stalk them and stuff?

Why do you want to know their name?

Do you think persecuting this person will somehow undo this miscarriage of justice?


Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2024 at 9:47am

mothra wrote on Apr 26th, 2024 at 7:58am:
What do you want their name for? ...


I was thinking the same thing.

It'll be interesting to see if you get an answer.


Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Apr 26th, 2024 at 10:29am

mothra wrote on Apr 26th, 2024 at 7:58am:
What do you want their name for? So you can send them a stern letter?

Or hey, better ... so every loony with a vigilante complex can send them death threats and stalk them and stuff?

Why do you want to know their name?

Do you think persecuting this person will somehow undo this miscarriage of justice?


... deep is the madness within this one...........

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2024 at 11:38am

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 26th, 2024 at 10:29am:

mothra wrote on Apr 26th, 2024 at 7:58am:
What do you want their name for? So you can send them a stern letter?

Or hey, better ... so every loony with a vigilante complex can send them death threats and stalk them and stuff?

Why do you want to know their name?

Do you think persecuting this person will somehow undo this miscarriage of justice?


... deep is the madness within this one...........


It's a good question: why would anyone want the judge's name?


Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Alinta on Apr 26th, 2024 at 12:09pm
It would appear the name has been redacted since I read the article a couple of days ago.  I can see good reason if there is even a whiff of vigilante reaction.

Let it go Daves.  I agree with your wish for the overhaul of bail law, but concentrate on that. Knowing this person's name will not be of assistance.

Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by Bias_2012 on Apr 26th, 2024 at 12:57pm

Alinta wrote on Apr 26th, 2024 at 12:09pm:
It would appear the name has been redacted since I read the article a couple of days ago.  I can see good reason if there is even a whiff of vigilante reaction.

Let it go Daves.  I agree with your wish for the overhaul of bail law, but concentrate on that. Knowing this person's name will not be of assistance.


I think we all see a good reason why the creep shouldn't have been given bail - Community expectations

Problem is, we are far too divided on what "community expectations" should be

Rule of Law is now so distorted, none of us can agree on what it should be anymore, or how it should be applied

The Judge, male or female, had the power to deny bail for the creep, so why didn't he/she deny it? That's the question

It probably boils down to a lack of understanding of how younger generations mull things over in their minds - it's never been ingrained in the heads that rule of law exists, they got away with too much at home, and ended up making their own laws






Title: Re: Can anyone name the judge who set her killer free?
Post by chimera on Apr 26th, 2024 at 1:13pm
In an analysis: 'we match 2,897 defendants placed on 24-month ADVOs to 10,820 defendants placed on 12-month ADVOs between January 2016 and April 2018 in NSW.'
There are 700-900 sexual assaults in NSW /year. Are you saying they all go to jail ? Does a registrar/ magistrate have the power of reading the future 100%? Do you?

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