'Emotional moment' as spears taken by Captain Cook are returned to Indigenous community 8-)

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2024 at 5:55pm:

'Emotional moment' as spears taken by Captain Cook are returned to Indigenous community 8-)

Cook's parting words to them were -"Don't do anything until I get back" .....

they kept their word ..... couldn't even make some new spears.

Plenty of sticks lying around.
But they wanted these back because they are too lazy to make new ones.

Is this another Topic by Virtue-Signalling BriYawn to antagonise a reaction from others that he can virtue-signal himself over?
...not that he ever ventures a personal opinion to what he posts.  ;)

So what?  What is the 'spiritual' significance of a few spear heads?  WGAF?

Let's just all agree that Ngunnawanya has the RIGHT to claim spiritual essence in spear heads even if there is none.  It could be a symbol of his struggle with oppression!

More a symbol of his struggle with sanity - like some sheila who hears whale songs, and another who says a rock in a creek can never be moved in case it has a spirit in it... imagine the whole country run by those values.... 

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This is the problem with ab0s to a tee. Rudimentary hunter gatherers who made next too nothing so they obsess over the most basic things like a spear. A sharpened stick.

What is the story with them. It's said in the article they were "stolen" and

Quote:

"You've got journals that talk about the violence on that day and the theft of those spears, this is the tangible evidence that this happened."

So why not put the evidence, the story of their acquisition, in the article? Does any one know the story? Brian? Evidence of theft?

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2024 at 5:55pm:

'Emotional moment' as spears taken by Captain Cook are returned to Indigenous community 8-)

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Gordon wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2024 at 8:11pm:

This is the problem with ab0s to a tee. Rudimentary hunter gatherers who made next too nothing so they obsess over the most basic things like a spear. A sharpened stick.

And not really sharp at that.
Obviously the knowledge of spear making had been lost by Cook’s time; sad to see such a progressive and inventive people being reduced to making such inefficient weapons.

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2024 at 8:35pm:

What is the story with them. It's said in the article they were "stolen" and Quote: "You've got journals that talk about the violence on that day and the theft of those spears, this is the tangible evidence that this happened." So why not put the evidence, the story of their acquisition, in the article? Does any one know the story? Brian? Evidence of theft?

The natives attacked - they lost - their spears were taken to prevent them attacking with them again... no biggie at all in any way.,

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2024 at 8:35pm:

What is the story with them. It's said in the article they were "stolen" and Quote: "You've got journals that talk about the violence on that day and the theft of those spears, this is the tangible evidence that this happened." So why not put the evidence, the story of their acquisition, in the article? Does any one know the story? Brian? Evidence of theft?

The theft took place on April 29, 1770, after Cook and his men landed in Kamay, a region now called Botany Bay. There, they encountered members of a clan of the Dharawal people known as Gweagals. The Gweagal men were armed with spears, which they shook at the intruders. When they refused to stand down, Cook’s party shot at them.

After the Gweagal men retreated, Cook’s party stole the spears from their homes.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 2:03pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 8:35pm: What is the story with them. It's said in the article they were "stolen" and Quote: "You've got journals that talk about the violence on that day and the theft of those spears, this is the tangible evidence that this happened." So why not put the evidence, the story of their acquisition, in the article? Does any one know the story? Brian? Evidence of theft? The theft took place on April 29, 1770, after Cook and his men landed in Kamay, a region now called Botany Bay. There, they encountered members of a clan of the Dharawal people known as Gweagals. The Gweagal men were armed with spears, which they shook at the intruders. When they refused to stand down, Cook’s party shot at them. After the Gweagal men retreated, Cook’s party stole the spears from their homes.

Spoils of war - they didn't even shoot the bastards... just a warning shot....

OMG - the spears... THE SPEARS!!!   THE HORROR!!

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 2:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 2:03pm: Setanta wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 8:35pm: What is the story with them. It's said in the article they were "stolen" and Quote: "You've got journals that talk about the violence on that day and the theft of those spears, this is the tangible evidence that this happened." So why not put the evidence, the story of their acquisition, in the article? Does any one know the story? Brian? Evidence of theft? The theft took place on April 29, 1770, after Cook and his men landed in Kamay, a region now called Botany Bay. There, they encountered members of a clan of the Dharawal people known as Gweagals. The Gweagal men were armed with spears, which they shook at the intruders. When they refused to stand down, Cook’s party shot at them. After the Gweagal men retreated, Cook’s party stole the spears from their homes. Spoils of war - they didn't even shoot the bastards... just a warning shot.... OMG - the spears... THE SPEARS!!!   THE HORROR!!

From their homes?  bark huts?

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 3:42pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 2:10pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 2:03pm: Setanta wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 8:35pm: What is the story with them. It's said in the article they were "stolen" and Quote: "You've got journals that talk about the violence on that day and the theft of those spears, this is the tangible evidence that this happened." So why not put the evidence, the story of their acquisition, in the article? Does any one know the story? Brian? Evidence of theft? The theft took place on April 29, 1770, after Cook and his men landed in Kamay, a region now called Botany Bay. There, they encountered members of a clan of the Dharawal people known as Gweagals. The Gweagal men were armed with spears, which they shook at the intruders. When they refused to stand down, Cook’s party shot at them. After the Gweagal men retreated, Cook’s party stole the spears from their homes. Spoils of war - they didn't even shoot the bastards... just a warning shot.... OMG - the spears... THE SPEARS!!!   THE HORROR!! From their homes?  bark huts?

In Eden - there is an original bark hut for a White family, brought down from the Snowies.... family used to live in it while oppressing the locals... you know... living the life of White privilege with dad on the road somewhere with a swag, sleeping rough, looking for some work to survive on ... maybe not making it home again ...

I think a lot of people today need a good foot up the arse.... maybe a training run through that kind of thing... OK - here's your part slab and part bark home for Winter... now you've got until sunset to get your firewood in and get your fire going... I'll take those sleeping bags... your blankets are over there....  what did you bring to eat?  No canned stuff etc.... where's your sheep and flour?

They might learn a few things... now watch one of the TV channels take up that idea... they read this stuff you know.

Freediver should cop royalties.... gonna git me some o' dat Wharte privilege dere... some day soon... only bin waitin' 74 Far Ken years...

The aborigines are lucky that the British took those spears. That way they have been carefully preserved.  All the aboriginal spears taken by rival tribes have disappeared without a trace.

Thank God for the British Empire, what?

Sad how just a nice thing is turned so malignant on this forum.

So much undeserved anger.

May this act bring peace ... to whoever is open to receive it.

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 3:42pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 2:10pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 2:03pm: Setanta wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 8:35pm: What is the story with them. It's said in the article they were "stolen" and Quote: "You've got journals that talk about the violence on that day and the theft of those spears, this is the tangible evidence that this happened." So why not put the evidence, the story of their acquisition, in the article? Does any one know the story? Brian? Evidence of theft? The theft took place on April 29, 1770, after Cook and his men landed in Kamay, a region now called Botany Bay. There, they encountered members of a clan of the Dharawal people known as Gweagals. The Gweagal men were armed with spears, which they shook at the intruders. When they refused to stand down, Cook’s party shot at them. After the Gweagal men retreated, Cook’s party stole the spears from their homes. Spoils of war - they didn't even shoot the bastards... just a warning shot.... OMG - the spears... THE SPEARS!!!   THE HORROR!! From their homes?  bark huts?

Yes, from their homes.

i.e. the place where one lives.

mothra wrote on Apr 26^th, 2024 at 9:09am:

Sad how just a nice thing is turned so malignant on this forum. So much undeserved anger. May this act bring peace ... to whoever is open to receive it.

Yeah - tone it down you and peccary - and stop desperately reading in as your last ditch defence...

OMG - the spears.. the SPEARS!  What will the tribe do without them?

FFS .... stop fantasising ...

Frank wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 4:15pm:

The aborigines are lucky that the British took those spears. That way they have been carefully preserved.  All the aboriginal spears taken by rival tribes have disappeared without a trace. Thank God for the British Empire, what?

A goodbpoint, and much better than the ones in the photo.

So Cook stole the spears, next thing the Germans will want all those field guns and machine guns and other weapons that we took [stole?] off them in WW I.

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Apr 26^th, 2024 at 12:33pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 4:15pm: The aborigines are lucky that the British took those spears. That way they have been carefully preserved.  All the aboriginal spears taken by rival tribes have disappeared without a trace. Thank God for the British Empire, what? A goodbpoint, and much better than the ones in the photo. So Cook stole the spears, next thing the Germans will want all those field guns and machine guns and other weapons that we took [stole?] off them in WW I.

At least the POMs looked after them.

They will probably be gone within 5 years now.   ::)

I wonder if these spears were the "darts" thrown at Cook?

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 2:03pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 8:35pm: What is the story with them. It's said in the article they were "stolen" and Quote: "You've got journals that talk about the violence on that day and the theft of those spears, this is the tangible evidence that this happened." So why not put the evidence, the story of their acquisition, in the article? Does any one know the story? Brian? Evidence of theft? The theft took place on April 29, 1770, after Cook and his men landed in Kamay, a region now called Botany Bay. There, they encountered members of a clan of the Dharawal people known as Gweagals. The Gweagal men were armed with spears, which they shook at the intruders. When they refused to stand down, Cook’s party shot at them. After the Gweagal men retreated, Cook’s party stole the spears from their homes.

No link? Is that story, "truth telling"?

It's a good thing they weren't returned in the same way they were delivered ... modern spears would be devastating...