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Message started by Jovial Monk on Apr 5th, 2024 at 8:07am

Title: Is the temperature record being sneakily altered?
Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 5th, 2024 at 8:07am
Poor deniers, it is all getting too hard for them. The science has moved on showing AGW is real, it has been really hot lately. So now denial of AGW is pretty much reduced to claiming the temperature record is being altered.

One such exchange on Twitter this morning:


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Toby Young@toadmeister

Massive retrospective alterations have been made to surface air temperatures by GISS, one of the main global databases run by NASA, greatly increasing recent warming, according to Professor Ole Humlum.


Answered:

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BONUS@TheDisproof·12h

Not that Humlum predicted in 2013 that the climate would most likely become colder in the coming 10–15 years. How did that work out for him? badly. 2023 was the warmest on record.


Gavin Schmidt:

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Gavin Schmidt@ClimateOfGavin

But is that difference “massive”? Ha.

For some reason, Toby and Chris don’t show what difference it actually makes. How strange!

Also odd is that they don’t tell you that it’s all within the published uncertainties.


And:

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Also inexplicably missing is a link to the GISTEMP history page where you can go back even further - to the 1980s - to see how our results have changed as a function of data availability and methods.
https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/history



https://twitter.com/ClimateOfGavin/status/1775864263413833745

Title: Re: Is the temperature record being sneakily altered?
Post by AusGeoff on Apr 5th, 2024 at 8:41am


Victoria—Summer 2023-24.

Averages for individual sites are long-term means based on
observations from all available years of record, which vary widely
from site to site.

They are not shown for sites with less than 10 years of record, as
they cannot then be calculated reliably.


Title: Re: Is the temperature record being sneakily altered?
Post by Belgarion on Apr 5th, 2024 at 8:43am
Poor cultists. They have been repeatedly caught out  tampering with the records. ::)

https://climatechangedispatch.com/australia-weather-bureau-caught-tampering-with-climate-numbers/

https://realclimate.science/2024/03/01/ten-degrees-of-data-tampering/#gsc.tab=0

https://realclimatescience.com/2024/02/the-50-ppm-rule-for-data-tampering/#gsc.tab=0

https://davidicke.com/2024/04/03/exclusive-met-office-uses-junk-temperature-measurements-to-fill-world-treasure-350-year-temperature-record/

Title: Re: Is the temperature record being sneakily altered?
Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 5th, 2024 at 9:05am
That is the claim by deniers because they don’t have much else left.

OK, the claims by Tony Heller can be tossed out. The one who fudges data is Tony himself.

Your last link is the claim that got refuted by Gavin Schmidt as posted in this thread by me.

Title: Re: Is the temperature record being sneakily altered?
Post by AusGeoff on Apr 5th, 2024 at 9:39am
Steven Goddard is a climate science denier, and operator of
The Deplorable Climate Science Blog".  The name 'Steven
Goddard' is a pseudonym used by Tony Heller, which he
confirmed himself in June 2014.  He describes global warming
as the “biggest scientific fraud in history".

And David Icke is possibly the Pied Piper of conspiracy theorists,
along with Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson et al.


Title: Re: Is the temperature record being sneakily altered?
Post by Belgarion on Apr 5th, 2024 at 2:06pm
Can't deny the data so attack the messenger. Typical cultist responses here.  ::)

Title: Re: Is the temperature record being sneakily altered?
Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 5th, 2024 at 2:25pm
He is known to fudge data!

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