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Message started by AusGeoff on Mar 27th, 2024 at 11:10pm

Title: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by AusGeoff on Mar 27th, 2024 at 11:10pm

This BitChute (!) video made by a slow-talking, intellectually challenged
blogger/podcaster by the name of Tony Lohnes is worth persevering
with at 40 minutes length for the sheer absurdity, credulity, and irrationality
it demonstrates.

         https://seed126.bitchute.com/cNE7XZIZKm1j/8FXcmb6msbge.mp4

Lohnes' guest, Jim Ferguson of "Freedom Train International" is the
archetypal conspiracy theorist and general nutter-about-town who started
this absurd site around four months ago, and claims "hundreds" of new
members—or "freedom advocates" as the delusional Mr Ferguson calls
them.

    :D    :D    :D

Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by aquascoot on Mar 28th, 2024 at 5:25am
just  like jan 6 had some people from the agency "egging the rabble on" so as to discredit the movement

sites like these would have some people (or bots) from the agency or big pharma or the military industrial complex or big tech, "egging the rabble on, so as to discredit the movement


think about if you were big pharma making a fortune out of selling expensive narcotics via a network of drug dealing doctors at pill mills.

wouldnt YOU employ 100,000 bots at  virtually zero expense to muddy the waters and rage on about cartels bringing in fentanyl and the chinese bringing in fentanyl and breaking bad teachers making the stuff

its the perfect way to take the heat off yourself



many many conspiracy theories have a small piece of truth which  terrifies the powerful so they make it into a crazy conspiracy theory as part of a PSY-OP to make the public think this topic is only for loons .


notice with p diddy

they have 1 pic of prince harry with diddy they run continually.
now most people  think "harrys cool" and tune out diddys sex trafficing

it may well be diddy was trafficing 1000's of kids for the sex market.
but by going all fringe, the public lose interest

another PSY OP

Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 28th, 2024 at 8:04am
https://t.me/GitmoChannel/167

Sooner or later , them and those that hath been

DUPED and lied to , will come unto the realization of

as much .. doubt it not

Only then will you be able to clean and detox your body
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Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by Carl D on Mar 28th, 2024 at 8:22am
I haven't made up my mind yet whether Light is one of the world's biggest suckers when it comes to conspiracy theories (and especially ones shared on social media - which is the majority of them these days)  or he's going for the title of the world's biggest Internet troll?

Anyway...

Bayer executive’s comments misinterpreted in social media posts

By Reuters Fact Check
June 28, 2022 2:22 PM UTC


Quote:
Remarks by Bayer executive Stefan Oelrich in 2021 have been shared on social media to spread the false allegation that COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are a form of gene therapy. Contrary to claims online, Oelrich was highlighting the public’s acceptance of such technological innovation as an example of how people could potentially also accept the company’s gene and cell therapies.



Quote:
VERDICT
False. In this clip, Bayer executive Stefan Oelrich did not “admit” that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are “in fact” gene therapy. He was highlighting the public’s acceptance of a technological innovation like mRNA COVID-19 vaccines as an example of how people could potentially also accept the company’s gene and cell therapies. While mRNA vaccines do use genetic material, they are not designed to change the recipient’s genetic makeup and thus they are distinct from gene therapy.


Another one to add to the long list of corrections, eh, Light?

:)

Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 28th, 2024 at 9:33am

Carl D wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 8:22am:
I haven't made up my mind yet whether Light is one of the world's biggest suckers when it comes to conspiracy theories (and especially ones shared on social media - which is the majority of them these days)  or he's going for the title of the world's biggest Internet troll?

...


I still say he's a 12-year-old on the spectrum.


Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 28th, 2024 at 10:30am

Carl D wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 8:22am:
I haven't made up my mind yet whether Light is one of the world's biggest suckers when it comes to conspiracy theories (and especially ones shared on social media - which is the majority of them these days)  or he's going for the title of the world's biggest Internet troll?

Anyway...

Bayer executive’s comments misinterpreted in social media posts

By Reuters Fact Check
June 28, 2022 2:22 PM UTC


Quote:
Remarks by Bayer executive Stefan Oelrich in 2021 have been shared on social media to spread the false allegation that COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are a form of gene therapy. Contrary to claims online, Oelrich was highlighting the public’s acceptance of such technological innovation as an example of how people could potentially also accept the company’s gene and cell therapies.


[quote]VERDICT
False. In this clip, Bayer executive Stefan Oelrich did not “admit” that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are “in fact” gene therapy. He was highlighting the public’s acceptance of a technological innovation like mRNA COVID-19 vaccines as an example of how people could potentially also accept the company’s gene and cell therapies. While mRNA vaccines do use genetic material, they are not designed to change the recipient’s genetic makeup and thus they are distinct from gene therapy.


Another one to add to the long list of corrections, eh, Light?

:)
[/quote]


https://t.me/GitmoChannel/167

So Stefan Oelrich admits this on tape . You say it's fake ,

end of discussion... got it 👍🏽

You are either

A. Severely retarded

Or

B. See A .
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Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by AusGeoff on Mar 28th, 2024 at 10:25pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 8:22am:
I haven't made up my mind yet whether Light is one of the world's biggest suckers when it comes to conspiracy theories (and especially ones shared on social media - which is the majority of them these days)  or he's going for the title of the world's biggest Internet troll...

LOL...

Yes, I've been wondering the same thing Carl.  It's truly hard to
accept that any mature, educated, articulate Aussie could seriously
believe any of the bullshit Light posts—mostly, as you say—from
dopey conspiracists or absurd 3rd-party memes fabricated by the
double-digit-IQ ignoramuses that haunt the interwebs.



Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by AusGeoff on Mar 28th, 2024 at 10:35pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 8:04am:
...

Sooner or later , them and those that hath been

DUPED and lied to , will come unto the realization of

as much .. doubt it not

Only then will you be able to clean and detox your body


Once again you've failed to do your due diligence before posting
such absurd bullshit that totally misrepresents what Oelrich actually
said in his 2021 speech.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2YF1AI/

In context, it shows that he was instead speaking about how the
acceptance of a biotech innovation like mRNA COVID-19 vaccines
was an example of how cell and gene therapies, a different biotech
innovation, could be received by the public.

     I simply don't know how you manage to get so much wrong about
     so many things Light.      ::)



Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by aquascoot on Mar 29th, 2024 at 6:32am
rna is the basis of life.
it is the messenger that allows the gene (dna)  to create strands of "messnger rna" which then goes to the mitochondrial factories to make proteins.

thus, its hard to argue that mrna vaccines going into cells are not gene therapy.

of course they are.

do we have all this stuff "figured out"?

not at all

we are only just beggining to use mrna and usually as a new treatment for cancers which were usually fatal

such as metastatic melanoma

now some of the results are promising

if i had metastatic melanoma i would be very grateful to revieve an mrna therapy on my genes to try to change my genetic expression.


but should we take the giant leap and give something that was being used on very tiny numbers of patients and give it to the entire population as a compulsory requirement and multiple times.


from a money perspective, big pharma could never recoup their investment if it was only used on a hand ful of rare cancers.

they needed it to be taken by the world

and their history is appalling in terms of safety.

the internal documents in court around vioxx (the biggest fines in world history) show that they new it would cause about 100,000 strokes and heart attacks but it would make 9 billion a year and the memo said

'we should sell as much as we can prior to this becoming public, on current projections, WE SHOULD STILL DO WELL.

this all is seperate from the point that when did the authorities think it was ok to overide voluntary medical treatment

if you collapse in the street with chest pain and an ambulance turns up, you have the absolute right to say you do not want to be taken for medical attention.

if you have a breast lump, you can cancel your surgery and walk out of the pre op room

you have total agency over your own body.

except in this case

its maybe not a conspiracy but its totally unethical government over reach

Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 29th, 2024 at 8:27am
Ok so conspiracies exist ,

Researchers look into reality , then

present evidence that counters GOVT " science " ,

Get banned for posting legitimate facts ,

Sheep tell researchers to shut up , got it 👍🏽



Earlier this year ATAGI released the following advice:

“Follow up studies show that most cases of myocarditis following vaccination have persistent changes on cardiac MRI.

The clinical significance of these changes, and the long-term outcomes of myocarditis and/or pericarditis following vaccination generally, are under active investigation.”

So much for injuries being self limiting and the vaccine is safe.

Three years after rolling out the vaccine they now admit that the vaccines can cause long term heart damage to young people.

And if they’ve got it wrong about myocarditis what other side effects have they downplayed.

This is criminal negligence plain and simple.

Quote from:
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/2024-01/covid-19-vaccination-guidance-on-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-after-covid-19-vaccines.pdf


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Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by Carl D on Mar 29th, 2024 at 10:16am
Maybe it's about time for Light (and others like him) to get off the conspiracy bandwagon for a while and have a good long think about this?

Another 15 Covid deaths in aged care for Australia last week - 251 deaths so far this year, an average of 3 a day. 6377 aged care deaths since the start of the pandemic.

Very hard to get Covid death numbers apart from aged care deaths these days but I would imagine Australia is still averaging between 50 and 100 every week, soon to get worse with the onset of winter.

And, as David Joffe says... not a f______ peep from any of them.

As I've said before - gutless wonders the lot of them... from the Prime Minister down.

And, yes - one term is quite enough. Not that the alternative would be any different. But it would make a lot of people feel a bit better at least, especially after all the lies Albanese told us about what he planned to do about dealing with Covid (before the election of course).
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Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 29th, 2024 at 10:31am

Carl D wrote on Mar 29th, 2024 at 10:16am:
Maybe it's about time for Light (and others like him) to get off the conspiracy bandwagon for a while and have a good long think about this?

Another 15 Covid deaths in aged care for Australia last week - 251 deaths so far this year, an average of 3 a day. 6377 aged care deaths since the start of the pandemic.

Very hard to get Covid death numbers apart from aged care deaths these days but I would imagine Australia is still averaging between 50 and 100 every week, soon to get worse with the onset of winter.

And, as David Joffe says... not a f______ peep from any of them.

As I've said before - gutless wonders the lot of them... from the Prime Minister down.

And, yes - one term is quite enough. Not that the alternative would be any different. But it would make a lot of people feel a bit better at least, especially after all the lies Albanese told us about what he planned to do about dealing with Covid (before the election of course).


Vaccine Deaths , got it 👍🏽

Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 29th, 2024 at 4:49pm
It's not about I'm wrong you're correct

Let's look at current findings and Action

https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1773505186687783147?t=gJnmw56wpvbQKRcMje5_4A&s=19
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Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by AusGeoff on Mar 30th, 2024 at 1:56am

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 29th, 2024 at 4:49pm:
It's not about I'm wrong you're correct

Let's look at current findings and Action

https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1773505186687783147?t=gJnmw56wpvbQKRcMje5_4A&s=19

LOL...

Chuck (Mr Vomit) Callesto is a failed Congressional candidate who
claims the 2020 election result was rigged, and that Biden has been
lying throughout his presidency.   Something Trump would never do?

This is just another nonsensical meme from it_is_the_light
misrepresenting factual data.

And of course its source is the excremental "Epoch Times".

     Mr Vomit's MO is pretty suspect, as proved in THIS report




Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 30th, 2024 at 5:29am
Abusing the 'opponents' will never reach an amicable agreement.

Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by aquascoot on Mar 30th, 2024 at 5:58am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 5:29am:
Abusing the 'opponents' will never reach an amicable agreement.



its more then 'abusing' sprint

its silencing

the biden administration came out last year and said the lab leak hypothesis was a real possibility

back in 2020 , if you even posted that for discussion on facebook, twitter or instagram , your account was closed

immediately


its one thing to abuse and dismiss people you dont agree wiht

but its an entorely different and totalitarian thing to silence dissent

thats basicly turning the west into north korea

a very dangerous move

Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 30th, 2024 at 6:29am

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 29th, 2024 at 4:49pm:
It's not about I'm wrong you're correct

Let's look at current findings and Action

https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1773505186687783147?t=gJnmw56wpvbQKRcMje5_4A&s=19



https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/covid-vaccine-shedding-is-real-fda-and-pfizer-documents-are-proof-clinicians-5588819

HEALTH
COVID-19
COVID VACCINES
COVID Vaccine Shedding Is ‘Real,’ FDA and Pfizer Documents Are Proof: Clinicians
All gene therapy products pose a risk of shedding, according to the FDA.
COVID Vaccine Shedding Is ‘Real,’ FDA and Pfizer Documents Are Proof: Clinicians
(myboys.me, Naeblys/Shutterstock)
Marina Zhang



The topic of COVID-19 vaccine shedding has long been controversial, but now, some doctors say even the authorities know about it.

“Shedding is unfortunately real,” said Dr. Pierre Kory at the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) conference in Phoenix, Arizona, in early February. “The FDA (U.S. Food and Drug Administration) knows that.”
Dr. Kory is a co-founder of the FLCCC, a non-profit advocacy group founded by physicians for the treatment of COVID-19, long COVID, and post-vaccine syndromes. He is also the co-founder of the Leading Edge Clinic and has treated over a thousand long-COVID and post-vaccine patients.

Fact-checkers have largely denied shedding on the basis of definition. The commonly cited definition comes from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) website, which defines shedding as the release of viruses, bacteria, and their components from live vaccines.

While mRNA and adenovirus vaccines are not live vaccines, they function similarly to gene therapy products.

All gene therapy products pose a risk of shedding, according to the FDA.
FDA Documents
In a 2015 document titled Design and Analysis of Shedding Studies for Virus or Bacteria-Based Gene Therapy and Oncolytic Products, the FDA defines shedding as “the release of [viral or bacterial gene therapy products] ... from the patient through one or all of the following ways: excreta (feces); secreta (urine, saliva, nasopharyngeal fluids etc.); or through the skin (pustules, sores, wounds).”


If anyone needs to clean their blood there are ways to detox

or take another booster .. all I have ever done on these boards

is try to help humanity as I have saved 1000s of lives with

my research into multiple matters

Stay in peace and joy dear humans 🙏

Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 30th, 2024 at 6:35am
In the same document, the FDA also explains what gene therapy products are: “All products that mediate their effects by transcription and/or translation of transferred genetic material.”

The COVID-19 mRNA and adenovirus vaccines fall into this category. They mediate their effects by inducing the body to translate mRNA genetic information into spike proteins.
Some gene therapy products known to shed include an eye treatment branded as Luxturna. Luxturna uses an adenovirus carrier to deliver eye protein DNA to retina cells in patients.

The Luxturna adenovirus and its DNA have been found in patients’ tears, according to the product’s package insert.
Similarly, mRNA and adenovirus COVID-19 vaccines may cause vaccinated patients to release spike proteins or other vaccine components, Dr. Kory explained.

For example, COVID-19 mRNA has been found in the breast milk of vaccinated mothers, indicating possible exposure of the vaccine to infants. Another study showed that spike protein, the product of COVID-19 vaccination, can last for at least half a year in the blood of vaccinated individuals, indicating prolonged spike protein persistence.
The FDA, however, denied that the 2015 document applies to COVID mRNA vaccines.

“COVID-19 vaccines are not regulated as gene therapy products by the FDA; therefore, the guidance document cited is not applicable to the COVID-19 vaccines,” an FDA spokeswoman told The Epoch Times.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/covid-vaccine-shedding-is-real-fda-and-pfizer-documents-are-proof-clinicians-5588819
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Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by Bobby. on Mar 30th, 2024 at 6:41am

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 8:04am:
https://t.me/GitmoChannel/167

Sooner or later , them and those that hath been

DUPED and lied to , will come unto the realization of

as much .. doubt it not

Only then will you be able to clean and detox your body



People were duped.
Vaccines normally take 10 years to gain approval -
those vaccines were approved in under 2 months
and people were forced to take them or lose their jobs.

Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 30th, 2024 at 6:51am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 6:41am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 8:04am:
https://t.me/GitmoChannel/167

Sooner or later , them and those that hath been

DUPED and lied to , will come unto the realization of

as much .. doubt it not

Only then will you be able to clean and detox your body



People were duped.
Vaccines normally take 10 years to gain approval -
those vaccines were approved in under 2 months
and people were forced to take them or lose their jobs.



Many Blessings Sir Knight

Human DNA is fluid and plasmatic

It has been proven humans have totally healed with

their thoughts , their mind .

This is performed when the Human focuses on

their anatomy through meditation , visualised

Healing and solfeggio frequency healing

Research Cymatics as humans are powerful

Electo magnetic beings and The LORD is

with us all 🙏
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Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 30th, 2024 at 9:05am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 6:41am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 8:04am:
https://t.me/GitmoChannel/167

Sooner or later , them and those that hath been

DUPED and lied to , will come unto the realization of

as much .. doubt it not

Only then will you be able to clean and detox your body



People were duped.
Vaccines normally take 10 years to gain approval -
those vaccines were approved in under 2 months

and people were forced to take them or lose their jobs.



I have answered this many times.

Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 30th, 2024 at 9:18am
https://rumble.com/v4mcj6l-human-dna-is-magic.html

Many Blessings unto All Divine Beings

Human DNA ,

You have more than you know
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Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by Carl D on Mar 30th, 2024 at 9:20am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 9:05am:
I have answered this many times.


We've answered many things many times over the past 4 years, Sprint.

But they never listen.

Waste of time trying to discusss anything with these two.

Light is obviously deranged and he's slowly but surely destroying these forums with his BS and Bobby follows along behind him like a puppy dog wagging his tail.

Sad but true.

Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 30th, 2024 at 9:27am

Carl D wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 9:20am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 9:05am:
I have answered this many times.


We've answered many things many times over the past 4 years, Sprint.

But they never listen.

Waste of time trying to discusss anything with these two.

Light is obviously deranged and he's slowly but surely destroying these forums with his BS and Bobby follows along behind him like a puppy dog wagging his tail.

Sad but true.


and so thee would bannish one such as I AM ?

a poignant time to do such a thing doubt it not

why not play us another tune mine Reicheous one
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Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 30th, 2024 at 9:29am
It's been done before ...
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Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 30th, 2024 at 9:31am
Nothing can stop the Eternal Truth

this Truth is The Christ LIGHT and

them and those that follow man and

not The Christ shall fade away , take heed humans
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Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by AusGeoff on Mar 31st, 2024 at 1:19am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 6:41am:
...People were duped.
Vaccines normally take 10 years to gain approval -
those vaccines were approved in under 2 months
and people were forced to take them or lose their jobs.

Not so...

Although the first COVID-19 vaccines were created, evaluated and
authorised for emergency use in under a year, no steps were skipped in
ensuring their safety and effectiveness. They went through the same
layers of review and testing as all other vaccines.  Messenger RNA,
or mRNA, was discovered in the early 1960s
by biochemist
professor Robert Malone; research into how mRNA could be delivered
into cells was developed in the 1970s.

Scientists were already researching potential vaccines for other coronaviruses,
such as SARS and MERS, so they applied much of what they already knew
to developing a COVID-19 vaccine.

While SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, was new to the
world, the family of viruses it came from was familiar to infectious
disease scientists.  Also, mRNA vaccine technology already existed, in
trials for other diseases. The first mRNA vaccines were tested in mice in
the 1990s and later the first mRNA vaccines for rabies were tested in
humans in 2013 for example.

—The absurd conspiracy theories that centred on the apparent (but
erroneous) claim that the COVIV-19 vaccines were developed in a
couple of weeks or months are totally without any viable foundation

It was (is) simply a desperate attempt by medically unqualified conspiracists
who were too fearful of getting the vaccine—in order to somehow justify their
resistance.



Data from January 2022 indicates that per 100,000 people, 2.32 vaccinated
died from COVID whilst  33.64 unvaccinated died from COVID.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination



Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by AusGeoff on Mar 31st, 2024 at 1:34am

Carl D wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 9:20am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 9:05am:
I have answered this many times.


We've answered many things many times over the past 4 years, Sprint.

But they never listen.

Waste of time trying to discuss anything with these two.

Light is obviously deranged and he's slowly but surely destroying these forums with his BS and Bobby follows along behind him like a puppy dog wagging his tail.

Sad but true.

Agreed...

I'm beginning to think that it_is_the_light is suffering from some sort of
religious paranoia, which probably needs some psychological intervention
in order to fix it.

His fixation with repeatedly citing biblical scripture is also of concern I believe. 
Any debate surrounding science and medicine has to be centred on empirical
evidence—and observation and replication—and not on a millennials-old story
book of myths, folklore, delusions, and superstition.

At worst, it_is_the_light has been repeatedly derailing several of these threads
with this sort of bullshit, and should really be censured by the moderators.



Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by Bobby. on Mar 31st, 2024 at 8:00am
https://supersally.substack.com/p/australian-bureau-of-statistics-has?utm_medium=android&triedRedirect=true


Australian Bureau of Statistics Has Released Complete Set of 2023 Data on 26 March 2024.
ABS reports 2023 deaths lower than 2022. Small consolation considering that the 2023 registered deaths continue above baseline deaths. All age-groups, particularly middle-aged and elderly decimated!

SuperSally888
Mar 30, 2024





The ABS smooths over excess deaths, reassuring that 2023 deaths are lower than 2022 deaths. However, the 2023 deaths continue to be well above baseline and baseline range for most of 2023!

    182,038 deaths occurred in 2023 and were registered by 29 February 2024. This is 4.6% lower than the 190,775 deaths that occurred in 2022.

    The 2023 deaths were 9,999 higher (+5.8%) than 172,039 deaths which occurred in 2021.

    The 2023 deaths were 19,372 higher (+11.9%) than the 162,666 deaths which occurred in 2020 - before the Covid-19 vaccine rollouts.

    There were 4,387 deaths attributed to COVID-19 (certified by a doctor in 2023), about half of the deaths attributed to Covid-19 in 2022.

I wanted to calculate cumulative excess deaths from 2020 to 2023.

Referring to a 2015-2019 baseline for current data is no longer accurate, as typical deaths do tend to increase over time with population changes. That 2015-2019 baseline is already 4 years old. To make some attempt to counter this, I still used the 2015-2019 average monthly deaths as baseline for 2020. For 2021 to 2023, I used excel forecast on the monthly 2015-2019 data to give a forecast expected deaths based on prior historical trending.

Using this approach, I arrived at 45,779 excess deaths from 2020 to 2023.



Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 31st, 2024 at 8:24am
The medical industrial complex failed humanity

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/fda-issues-highest-level-alert-heart-pumps-linked/
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Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by AusGeoff on Apr 1st, 2024 at 3:22am

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 8:24am:
The medical industrial complex failed humanity

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/fda-issues-highest-level-alert-heart-pumps-linked/


LOL...

ANOTHER absurd meme from the forum's favourite (?) bible basher.

The Gateway Pundit (TGP) is an American far-right fake news website,
known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories.  It's
been described by the Harvard Journal of Law & Technology as one of the
websites that "primarily propagate fake news", by Newsweek as a "fake news"
website, and by CNN as a website "prone to peddling conspiracy theories".


A 2020 study by researchers from Northeastern, Harvard, Northwestern
and Rutgers universities found that among Republicans and older people
The Gateway Pundit was the most shared fake news domain in tweets
related to COVID, significantly outperforming other fake news domains
such as InfoWars, WorldNetDaily, Judicial Watch and Natural News.

And...

A large study published in the journal Political Psychology reports that the
link between conspiracy belief and religiosity is rooted in cognitive similarities
between the two beliefs, and that people with higher conspiracy belief also
tend to be more religious.

In crude terms, this simply means that if one believes in the bullshit of the
bible, then you'll blindly accept bullshit from anyone else.   Sad really.

    :D

Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by AusGeoff on Apr 1st, 2024 at 3:40am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 8:00am:
https://supersally.substack.com/p/australian-bureau-of-statistics-has?utm_medium=android&triedRedirect=true


Australian Bureau of Statistics Has Released Complete Set of 2023 Data on 26 March 2024.
ABS reports 2023 deaths lower than 2022. Small consolation considering that the 2023 registered deaths continue above baseline deaths. All age-groups, particularly middle-aged and elderly decimated!

SuperSally888
Mar 30, 2024





The ABS smooths over excess deaths, reassuring that 2023 deaths are lower than 2022 deaths. However, the 2023 deaths continue to be well above baseline and baseline range for most of 2023!

    182,038 deaths occurred in 2023 and were registered by 29 February 2024. This is 4.6% lower than the 190,775 deaths that occurred in 2022.

    The 2023 deaths were 9,999 higher (+5.8%) than 172,039 deaths which occurred in 2021.

    The 2023 deaths were 19,372 higher (+11.9%) than the 162,666 deaths which occurred in 2020 - before the Covid-19 vaccine rollouts.

    There were 4,387 deaths attributed to COVID-19 (certified by a doctor in 2023), about half of the deaths attributed to Covid-19 in 2022.

I wanted to calculate cumulative excess deaths from 2020 to 2023.

Referring to a 2015-2019 baseline for current data is no longer accurate, as typical deaths do tend to increase over time with population changes. That 2015-2019 baseline is already 4 years old. To make some attempt to counter this, I still used the 2015-2019 average monthly deaths as baseline for 2020. For 2021 to 2023, I used excel forecast on the monthly 2015-2019 data to give a forecast expected deaths based on prior historical trending.

Using this approach, I arrived at 45,779 excess deaths from 2020 to 2023.

Thank you for doing the maths.  I'm not quite sure why you did though?

Any implication that COVID vaccines were responsible for an increase
in excess deaths would of course be erroneous,

No Evidence Excess Deaths Linked to Vaccines, Contrary to Claims Online.



Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by Frank on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:23am

AusGeoff wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 3:22am:
And...

A large study published in the journal Political Psychology reports that the
link between conspiracy belief and religiosity is rooted in cognitive similarities
between the two beliefs, and that people with higher conspiracy belief also
tend to be more religious.

In crude terms, this simply means that if one believes in the bullshit of the
bible, then you'll blindly accept bullshit from anyone else.   Sad really.

    :D


Says Conspiracy Nutso who believes the Catholic Church can pressure the High Court.

Pavlovian reflex anti-religious miasma befogs your brain even more than any hard core Biblical literalism ever could.

Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by Jasin on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:21am
The Gateway Pundit is a CIA supported site.
Well, it has been exposed as such in the past.
But the CIA have cleaned it up a bit to make it look like they no longer are 'involved' in making this site a prime CIA 'mis-information' outlet for their counter-manipulations and machinations for 'whatever' reason?  ::)

During the last Election. The CIA were found to have produced over half of the world's BOTS online at the time.

Conspiracy Intelligence Agency.

Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:15am
https://www.newstarget.com/2024-03-29-fda-lost-historic-ivermectin-lawsuit.html
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Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by Bias_2012 on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:51am
I only got two shots, and they were only because of peer pressure. To me, peer pressure is derived from "conspiracy theory" - "take the shots or you'll cause everyone else to die", panic panic

I got no more shots, there was just too much "Dan Dictator Andrews" type crap flying about. Everything became conspiracy theory, and who from? - the LibLab politicians and their sycophant followers





Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:39am

Bias_2012 wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:51am:
I only got two shots, and they were only because of peer pressure. To me, peer pressure is derived from "conspiracy theory" - "take the shots or you'll cause everyone else to die", panic panic

I got no more shots, there was just too much "Dan Dictator Andrews" type crap flying about. Everything became conspiracy theory, and who from? - the LibLab politicians and their sycophant followers


There are many ways to clean your physical body
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Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by AusGeoff on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 4:18am

Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:23am:

AusGeoff wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 3:22am:
And...

A large study published in the journal Political Psychology reports that the
link between conspiracy belief and religiosity is rooted in cognitive similarities
between the two beliefs, and that people with higher conspiracy belief also
tend to be more religious.

In crude terms, this simply means that if one believes in the bullshit of the
bible, then you'll blindly accept bullshit from anyone else.   Sad really.

    :D


Says Conspiracy Nutso who believes the Catholic Church can pressure the High Court.

Pavlovian reflex anti-religious miasma befogs your brain even more than any hard core Biblical literalism ever could.

If you've read many of my other comments denigrating active conspiracy
theorists—and naming and exposing them—you'd know  that describing
me as the same thing is nonsense Frank.

   I'm guessing you didn't fully read the links I posted earlier?

BTW, I'm not "anti-religious";  I'm actually ignostic, but normally—for the ease
of debate—call myself an atheist.  And ignostics are definitely not anti-religious. 
(Nor are atheists typically.)

If you truly believe that our church and state are truly separated, then you're
apparently unaware of the influence of the Catholic church on our politicians—at
the beginning of each sitting day in the Senate and House of Representatives
the Lord's Prayer is read. This is done because these prayers are part of the
rules, or the standing orders of the Senate and House.

How can you justify the standing orders of our parliaments including a
religious/Christian prayer?  What happened to our supposed separation
of church and state? 

Even Section 116 of our Constitution says in part:  "The Commonwealth shall
not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious
observance...".

The reading of this archaic, absurd religious invocation should be abolished
ASAP.   Aren't we now a secular country?





Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by AusGeoff on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 5:17am

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:15am:
https://www.newstarget.com/2024-03-29-fda-lost-historic-ivermectin-lawsuit.html

   Oh dear...

Yet ANOTHER bogus, totally misrepresented 3rd-party meme
from OzPol's resident village idiot LOL.

The US Food and Drug Administration has settled an ultimately
vexatious lawsuit over some of its posts about ivermectin,
including what may have been one of its more popular, lightweight,
pandemic-era social media campaigns. 

In August 2021, to discourage people from using ivermectin to
prevent or treat COVID, the FDA tweeted “You are not a horse.
You are not a cow. Serious y’all. Stop It
.” and posted a similar
message on Instagram.

Which was a completely valid and clinically-supported public
request, as there was zero evidence that ivermectin was of any
use pre- or post-COVID infection.  The FDA and the World Health
Organization encouraged people not to use it.

And of course, and right on cue, the usual COVID/ivermection conspiracy
theorists—among them Joseph Mercola, Sherri Tenpenny,  Pierre Kory,
Robert Malone, Paul Marik, John Campbell, and even Joe Rogan and
Alex Jones—started flooding social media with their unqualified,
misrepresentative bullshit.

The full—true interpretation—of the FDA case is HERE.  To claim that
the FDA's early social posts were responsible for anybody's deaths is
truly ludicrous—considering that Trump's delay in accepting that COVID
was a serious killer, and his absurd advice that ivermectin, laundry bleach,
and anal UV light could treat and/or prevent the virus, or that "As if by a
miracle
", it would just disappear were responsible for an estimated
100,000+ additional, unnecessary COVID deaths.


Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by Frank on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 9:25am
Secularism doesn't mean what you think it means, pal, the exclusion of religious views from public life. Not at all.

"A modern definition, provided by scholar Jean Baubérot, sees secularism made up of three parts: separation of religious institutions from the institutions of the state and no domination of the political sphere by religious institutions; freedom of thought, conscience, and religion for all; and no state discrimination against anyone on grounds of their religion or non-religious worldview". Australia is a secular state.

As to the Lord's Prayer:

On 28 October 1997, Senator Bob Brown (AG, Tas) gave notice of a motion to amend SO 50 to remove the preamble and Lord’s Prayer and replace them with an invitation to senators to pray or reflect on their responsibilities.[7] Two days later the Senate agreed to refer Senator Brown’s motion to the Procedure Committee and that senators be consulted.[8] The Procedure Committee’s Second Report of 1997 reported that those senators who joined in the prayer considered its retention as important; and those who did not join in the prayer did not have a strong view as to its abolition.[9] Senator Brown’s motion was moved and negatived on 27 November 1997.

So it is not compulsory to recite it. Anne Aly, Faruqi, Husic and all the atheists or ignostics don't recite it, being Mohammedans or otherwise non-Christians, and they are not discriminated against on that account in any way since there is NO religious institution within state institutions that could, if it existed and wanted to, discriminate against them.

Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by Bias_2012 on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 10:38am

Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 9:25am:
Anne Aly, Faruqi, Husic


They'll be waiting for the day when a passage from the Koran will be recited at the beginning of each Parliamentary session .... God willing

That's my conspiracy theory





Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by AusGeoff on Apr 3rd, 2024 at 2:52am

Bias_2012 wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 10:38am:

Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 9:25am:
Anne Aly, Faruqi, Husic

They'll be waiting for the day when a passage from the Koran will be recited at the beginning of each Parliamentary session.... God willing...


In any Australian court Muslims can swear on the Koran.

Procedure for administering an oath upon the Holy Quran:

    •  The witness should be handed the Holy Quran (in its cover),

    •  The witness should be asked to remove the Holy Quran from its cover,

     • The witness should be asked if he/she recognises the book as a true copy of the Holy Quran,

    •  The oath should then be administered,

    •  The witness should be asked to return the Holy Quran to its cover.

In my opinion, this is offensive, and has no place in any Australian law
court.  It's also another example of the covert, insidious infiltration of
more Islamic laws (sharia?) and culture into our country under the guise
of multiculturalism.

There are now (2021 census) 813,300 Muslims, or 3.2% of the total
population in Australia.  This compares with 812,800 Aboriginals, or the
same 3.2% of the total population.





Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 3rd, 2024 at 8:45am
We research is all

Vaxers just walk blindly where

Government tells them 🤷‍♂️
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Title: Re: Ludicrous Conspiracy Claims by Mental Midgets...
Post by Bias_2012 on Apr 3rd, 2024 at 10:38am

AusGeoff wrote on Apr 3rd, 2024 at 2:52am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 10:38am:

Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 9:25am:
Anne Aly, Faruqi, Husic

They'll be waiting for the day when a passage from the Koran will be recited at the beginning of each Parliamentary session.... God willing...


In any Australian court Muslims can swear on the Koran.

Procedure for administering an oath upon the Holy Quran:

    •  The witness should be handed the Holy Quran (in its cover),

    •  The witness should be asked to remove the Holy Quran from its cover,

     • The witness should be asked if he/she recognises the book as a true copy of the Holy Quran,

    •  The oath should then be administered,

    •  The witness should be asked to return the Holy Quran to its cover.

In my opinion, this is offensive, and has no place in any Australian law
court.  It's also another example of the covert, insidious infiltration of
more Islamic laws (sharia?) and culture into our country under the guise
of multiculturalism.

There are now (2021 census) 813,300 Muslims, or 3.2% of the total
population in Australia.  This compares with 812,800 Aboriginals, or the
same 3.2% of the total population.



I wonder if the courts would allow me to swear on my copy of "How To Get Well" health book by god Paavo Airola? - that's my only real bible

Or perhaps "The Internet for Dummies" .. I had my nose stuck in that for quite some time

The Aboriginals could swear on a copy of the Dept of Land & Environment's Planning Principles

The Chinese could swear on a copy of Mao's little Red Book

etc, etc







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