https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/toobeah-queensland-battle-ramps-up-over-claims-95-per-cent-of-this-small-town-could-be-transferred-to-local-indigenous-body/ar-BB1kc2Tu?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=dca9de8f1c364160998be12d0c3fadb2&ei=11&sc=shoreline

Time to split this wide-ranging war into states for ease of consideration...

**NOTICE:-  This was a grant - a donation by decree not by vote - of FREEHOLD.  The bastards are feeling the heat and are striking harder - as mothra would say - doubling down. They KNOW 'native title' - which is all these groups are entitled to - does not confer ownership - so now they are giving it away as 'freehold' despite who owns it already.

So who, at an election, gave these government Sitadels any right to give away land in that fashion without the leave of the people?

You have been warned.... either you put a stop to this now or this will be a disaster and a civil war one day.  Actually - for these Sitadels - it already is a civil war - one they are waging undeclared on the general public by sneaking up on them all the time and handing them faits accomplis by decree.... not by consent of an informed public.

You have been warned time and again that the greatest danger to democracy comes from elected government..... remember?  The greatest enemy of parliament is democracy...... the greatest enemy of democracy is parliament.... one such has declared war - if you need to guess which you are already in their ground pushing up daisies.

Anyone now seeing the end result of State governments and then Howard removing legal firearms from the general community?  And what the game plan was all the time?  I was in Nu Zulland when Howard's laws went through - asked a nice young Kiwi Chuck why she thought any government would take away The People's firearms... she said, without hesitation - because that government has reason to fear from its own people because that government planned to do its people wrong .....

Ask yourselves why....then look back at The Great Erosion following from Howard's Way..... and how far you have fallen under despotism  and now the extreme despotism of government by decree of any Gauleiter or Kommissar in any government department ... some weirdo inclusive poof-smoking pansy can dictate that this or that beautiful natural site will be sole property of a whining mass of losers and will become part of their private hunting reservation .. no poachers allowed ...........  Wake Up, People!!

Queensland voice staggers.....

https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/queensland-premier-puts-indigenous-treaty-on-hold/video/950a4fa9c9d97c0729782512eb99d384

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/oldest-aboriginal-pottery-discovered-in-far-north-queensland-say-researchers/ar-BB1llNvy?cvid=8206e733e3164ff1eb6937c7504c4501&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=9&sc=shoreline

Man - a maybe bit of pottery might change our ideas.... what happened to the other 57,000 years they claim?

Phoenician explorers or Chinese or something...

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/cairns-to-receive-police-helicopter-900-extra-officers-set-to-join-queensland-ranks/ar-AA1nxH7W?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=454b08a170394198bf256d09b3896a99&ei=7&sc=shoreline

Aha!  What kind of Usual Suspect are they looking for THIS time?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queensland-is-on-a-path-to-treaty-with-indigenous-people-how-will-it-work-who-s-involved/ar-AA1nMrGA?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=e17f8d3fe22e4d28abb3bd7ed7e51448&ei=6&sc=shoreline

Is there any opportunity here for alternative truth-telling to get its say?  Or is this an echo chamber?

There is nothing to negotiate in a set of demands.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/final-hearings-in-landmark-climate-court-case-begin/ar-AA1nODQ7?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=e74bc99c649344b7dd23b42edd0303a5&ei=20&sc=shoreline

Cargo cult now before we even know if we'll go under......


"Hear me, O Critias - that once beyond the Pillars of Cooktown there lived a nation of gods.. a land beset with temples of gold and precious gems ... a science unparalleled in the known universe .... a land of heroic travelers and builders .... all vanished and gone in a single day and night of fire and flood.... and climate change ........... maybe.... but let's not take a chance, eh?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/first-nations-anti-coal-mine-activist-murrawah-johnson-wins-2024-goldman-environmental-prize/ar-AA1nSAiR?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=1baa940d90ec4f06cd8c97bd5597278b&ei=29&sc=shoreline

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/at-the-coalface-traditional-owners-demand-protection/ar-AA1nZB6N?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=d6295cf128944f9d88f22d9b8875985f&ei=8&sc=shorelinehttps://www.msn.com/en-au/money/markets/adani-mine-could-be-causing-environmental-harm-at-protected-springs-say-queensland-government-officials-in-court-case/ar-AA1o0wFm?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=8f586f14ee5f4fd6a3e80dc597402978&ei=6&sc=shoreline

I oppose Adani as a threat to our economy since it is theft of resources to ship the profits Offshore again... and because it has a number of issues around the environment.

You'd think that Westerners including Australians particularly who live in a resources rich environment - have suddenly become too stupid to develop/exploit those resources for the first stop benefit of Australia and its people.... jeez we can't even squeeze our keen as mustard potential med school student local in (unless they are women on never-ending AA) for the number of full fee paying Offshore students - many of who you wouldn't trust with a thermometer.  No offence.....

Did IQs suddenly drop while I've been sitting here?  No resource management available in Australia (along with a host of other skills)?  That's because they blew it out the goddamned air lock to make way for their self-profiting fantasy twin ideologies of internationalism and globalisation - SS/DD.

Labor and LNP etc - all the same - all on the gravy train and all looking for the dullahs first and foremost while tent cities rise like mushrooms after rain and disadvantage (com on in, dividie) for the majority continues to grow.  Don't get me started on that one again... I can lead donkeys to water, but they won't drink it unless they want to... if you reckon the Keffir Out Back play up because of disadvantage (I'll get to anger over abuse of rights legal etc in 'dv' comments) because they are 'disadvantaged' more than a family of six living in a tent as Tent City Slickers - how do you think those powder kegs of Tent Cities will be in the near future?

Idiots protest in the streets and threaten to kill Jews over 'freeing Palestine' after Palestine carried out a brutal massacre of innocents.... how much greater do you think The Slickers anger will be once they realise there is no way out and they become angry enough?

Getchu heads outchu arses!! Vote 1 - Grappler for Lifetime President!!

Them Murican cops know how to handle them Palie protestors now:-

https://media4.giphy.com/media/3o6MbrO02elhTFzt4Y/200w.gif

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queensland-government-to-remove-detention-as-a-last-resort-from-its-youth-justice-principles/vi-AA1o0wKp?cvid=34fcff1e5adf4946f5dcff67d2af507d&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=6&sc=shoreline

This is state-wide - but we all know......

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/at-the-coalface-traditional-owners-demand-protection/ar-AA1nZB6N?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=402eb92a36b748c09cd34de926b54f6e&ei=16&sc=shoreline

Phew - dodged a bullet with that voice, eh?  This never ends - one day after another.

25/05/2024  https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/not-just-a-number-legal-expert-says-closing-the-gap-dv-target-is-not-on-track/vi-BB1mKwiO?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=b0dbc4c376534ad6b62ef3ea3faaa687&ei=6&sc=shoreline

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 1:33pm:

Time to split this wide-ranging war into states for ease of consideration...

so we get more of the same crap from you repeating the same poo you've been ranting about for the last 5 years, on multiple threads? Cause speaking to yourself on the referendum thread for 300 pages wasn't enough?

No thanks, I'd prefer you didn't.

Go back to sleep, Smith.... if you don't like links to reality being posted - go somewhere else.

You and sad kanga with your ridiculous ad homs in place of discussion have no place in a civilised world, in which we will all hold our views... except you pair, of course.  You've placed yourselves outside of civilisation with your behaviour... go stand in the corner, you p;air of petty fascists.

Now then - is there any part of those links you'd wish to discuss openly and reasonably?  anything you disagree with or even have a fair comment on?

You'll never do any good ad homing this homme ... I eat you for breakfast every day and twice on Sunday....

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Go back to sleep, Smith

I'd rather call you out on your bigotry and stupidity

Making a list of reports of actual events is bigotry now?  Grow up .... go back to sleep.

Taking all those reports cumulatively - if you are not deeply concerned - you are dead.

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Making a list of reports

You're not making a list, you're crying about what a victim you are.  In each and every case. ::)

Here's you list - and I don't mean the one to port:-

QLD Lawfare


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/indigenous-elder-says-backlash-in-queensland-after-failed-voice-referendum-greater-than-expected/ar-AA1jfBN0?cvid=0b56125fa6504fc9a9a352dd588f5fa0&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=8


https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/markets/cost-of-living-crisis-causing-health-concerns-in-torres-strait-cape-york-ahead-of-64m-subsidy-scheme/ar-AA1kjSzD?cvid=698fdb92a8944f82feeddd8a1a86e5e7&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=11


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queensland-landholders-say-state-government-has-left-them-at-the-mercy-of-the-gods-during-bushfires/ar-AA1kwqzS?cvid=27db793eee594feb91b4bb855b6f9c34&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=6


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/traditional-owners-claim-queensland-government-breaching-human-rights-over-potential-adani-contamination/ar-BB1ioRJ9?cvid=17268d3b82ae4bfe9dfcb51bed1ece44&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=12&sc=shoreline


https://www.msn.com/en-au/travel/news/backlash-over-move-to-rename-magnetic-island-national-park/ar-BB1iCgWn?cvid=517f8be4654f4efa9e28ccd9913853cc&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=7&sc=shoreline


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/rsl-queensland-slammed-over-new-acknowledgment-of-country-for-anzac-day-ceremonies-where-do-these-things-stop/ar-BB1jwxFJ?cvid=8cecfa41826a491fbcab5a685ed97ec8&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=12&sc=shoreline


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/toobeah-queensland-battle-ramps-up-over-claims-95-per-cent-of-this-small-town-could-be-transferred-to-local-indigenous-body/ar-BB1kc2Tu?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=dca9de8f1c364160998be12d0c3fadb2&ei=11&sc=shoreline


04/04/2024 https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/queensland-premier-puts-indigenous-treaty-on-hold/video/950a4fa9c9d97c0729782512eb99d384


4 weeks ago   https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/cairns-to-receive-police-helicopter-900-extra-officers-set-to-join-queensland-ranks/ar-AA1nxH7W?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=454b08a170394198bf256d09b3896a99&ei=7&sc=shoreline


3 weeks ago   https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queensland-is-on-a-path-to-treaty-with-indigenous-people-how-will-it-work-who-s-involved/ar-AA1nMrGA?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=e17f8d3fe22e4d28abb3bd7ed7e51448&ei=6&sc=shoreline



3 weeks ago   https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/final-hearings-in-landmark-climate-court-case-begin/ar-AA1nODQ7?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=e74bc99c649344b7dd23b42edd0303a5&ei=20&sc=shoreline


3 weeks ago   https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/first-nations-anti-coal-mine-activist-murrawah-johnson-wins-2024-goldman-environmental-prize/ar-AA1nSAiR?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=1baa940d90ec4f06cd8c97bd5597278b&ei=29&sc=shoreline

3 weeks   https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/at-the-coalface-traditional-owners-demand-protection/ar-AA1nZB6N?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=d6295cf128944f9d88f22d9b8875985f&ei=8&sc=shoreline


3 weeks ago   https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/markets/adani-mine-could-be-causing-environmental-harm-at-protected-springs-say-queensland-government-officials-in-court-case/ar-AA1o0wFm?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=8f586f14ee5f4fd6a3e80dc597402978&ei=6&sc=shoreline


3 weeks ago   https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queensland-government-to-remove-detention-as-a-last-resort-from-its-youth-justice-principles/vi-AA1o0wKp?cvid=34fcff1e5adf4946f5dcff67d2af507d&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=6&sc=shoreline#details


21/05/2024   https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/not-just-a-number-legal-expert-says-closing-the-gap-dv-target-is-not-on-track/vi-BB1mKwiO?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=b0dbc4c376534ad6b62ef3ea3faaa687&ei=6&sc=shoreline

A gold mine for future honest researchers into the reasons for the Civil War you dorks are creating out of thin air....    8-)

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/aboriginal-group-given-native-title-after-decade-long-battle/ar-BB1nu8vk?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=cd53d8ddb80e476ad1d79f1c140f499d&ei=10&sc=shoreline

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 11:41pm:

A gold mine for future honest researchers into the reasons for the Civil War you dorks are creating out of thin air....    8-)

Out of the 18 posts in this thread, 16 of them are yours.

The only one creating anything, which you're then having a tantrum over, is you.

You're like a bored housewife who starts a bunch of meaningless arguments so she can paint herself as the victim of all those around her arguing with her...

You must be proud.

And again, this thread shows what you're complaining about has nothing to do with the voice but instead legislation, policy or even simple ideas that benefit Indigenous Australians.

Pathetic as usual.

Who cares where truth comes from?  Just because you have no valid response doesn't make it any less impacftul....

I'm assembling all this lawfare - for future studies and books ...

You just dream on about your silly ideas about other people who are way in front of you and always have been.

Which of those can you refute then?  We'll leave that with you, shall we?

"nothing to do with the voice but instead legislation, policy or even simple ideas that benefit Indigenous Australians."

These are all components of the failed 'Voice' list of demands, now being pushed by faceless and unelected individuals in government bodies.  THAT, my child - is why it is called Voice By Stealth and behind the voter's backs.  You ARE desperate, aren't you?  It's all being made clear for anyone who chooses to see.

HOW are these 'benefiting' anyone?

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 2:57pm:

I'm assembling all this lawfare

It's not lawfare, it's you bring triggered by any headline that includes Indigenous Australians because you need to be the victim but the voice was defeated and you instead won.

So you have to keep pushing that the fight is still going to manufacture a platform where you can spew your hate under the guise of debate.

You're just another bigot upset that the free pass you had to be a racist in a public settings has expired now that the voice referendum was defeated and is now behind us.

You only care about the issue so you can exploit it for your own needs, and you have to manufacture your own outrage to justify it.

Your desperation is as telling as it is pathetic.

It's an unhealthy obsession at this point. Unless you're being fed these examples from the usual telegram groups, you'd have to be constantly trawling for these stories.

Pretty sad existence.

It's really very amusing. Crappler thinks he's contributing to the wider body of research by copy and pasting links from Sky "news" into a dying forum almost nobody sees. And even those that see it ignore him.

You've got to admit, that's worth a laugh.

You need to grow up.  Your 'causes' are all lost..... I'm happy to document the fall for you.

Can you refute a single one of those issues raised?  Offer a different and compelling view?

Where do YOU get your information on issues?  All the stuff I post comes from the bottom left of the page here - and includes ABC, a host of other newspapers and media outlets and some sky news....

You can try all you like with your silly put-downs and ignorant generalisations, little person - the truth is coming..... and some of us will continue to speak for the murdered women honestly and every other issue....

State elections will be a beauty this time - you can see the Labor lot running away from their flagship now... pretending it's not happening behind the people's backs.. you ARE a petty little Fascist aren't you...   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:56am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:57pm: I'm assembling all this lawfare It's not lawfare, it's you bring triggered by any headline that includes Indigenous Australians because you need to be the victim but the voice was defeated and you instead won. So you have to keep pushing that the fight is still going to manufacture a platform where you can spew your hate under the guise of debate. You're just another bigot upset that the free pass you had to be a racist in a public settings has expired now that the voice referendum was defeated and is now behind us. You only care about the issue so you can exploit it for your own needs, and you have to manufacture your own outrage to justify it. Your desperation is as telling as it is pathetic. It's an unhealthy obsession at this point. Unless you're being fed these examples from the usual telegram groups, you'd have to be constantly trawling for these stories. Pretty sad existence.

Laughable from start to finish - you ARE desperate.   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

That was quite a meltdown.

Hit a nerve didn't I...

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:01am:

It's really very amusing. Crappler thinks he's contributing to the wider body of research by copy and pasting links from Sky "news" into a dying forum almost nobody sees. And even those that see it ignore him. You've got to admit, that's worth a laugh.

Says the only chucklehead here.  ;D

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 10:51am:

That was quite a meltdown. Hit a nerve didn't I...

You couldn't hit the side of a barn with a bucket of rice you pathetic softcock.

Gnads wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:55pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 10:51am: That was quite a meltdown. Hit a nerve didn't I... You couldn't hit the side of a barn with a bucket of rice you pathetic softcock.

Twiggered?

Cry some more  :'(

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:11pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 6:55pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 10:51am: That was quite a meltdown. Hit a nerve didn't I... You couldn't hit the side of a barn with a bucket of rice you pathetic softcock. Twiggered? Cry some more  :'(

No thecond pwize you old marshmellow.

Noosa Has Fallen!

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/kabi-kabi-people-recognised-as-native-title-holders-over-the-sunshine-coast/ar-BB1ol5L8?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=a9bafaa61dbe4175999a0620d09e858a&ei=7&sc=shoreline

Wonder if anyone has defined what 'native title' actually means?  Or is it just left up in the air and full of loop-holes that will slowly be closed off to 'outsiders' using government money?

"A determination by Justice Berna Collier at a special hearing in Brisbane on Monday recognised the Kabi Kabi people's non-exclusive rights to an area including Gympie, Noosa, Maroochydore, Caloundra, Bribie Island and Mudjimba Island."

This'll be good ....

"It is also the first time that the right to "take resources from the area for any purpose" is being recognised in South-East Queensland."

Now then - what are these 'resources'?  Are they defined - you know - like fish, drink of water, hunt a goanna, go yabbying, grab a bit of firewood  ..... what about the gold, the silver the oil uncovered by the White Man's sorcerous equipment... what about Joe Blanckovski's car??

What exactly ARE the loop-holes... the 'wriggle room' ..... for 'sympathetic' public servants to push through at your massive expense while any other stakeholder has to carry the fight with $10 in pocket?  Lawfare at its very best....  funded by YOU!

"Monday's determination recognises the Kabi Kabi people's rights to "access, be present on, move about on and travel over the area", which is about 10,280 square kilometres in total.

Justice Collier told the court the decision did not confer on the native title holders "possession, occupation, use or enjoyment to the exclusion of all others, including other interests as defined in the judgement and which continue to have effect".

The native title rights and interests are subject to the laws of the state and the Commonwealth as well as the traditional laws and customs observed by the native title holders."

"Kabi Kabi Elder Michael Douglas said this would mean the right to access the resources his ancestors had been using for thousands of years.

"That gives us our rights to go back and utilise, for our people to take timber ... to make boomerangs or spears," he said."

"Tim Wishart, chief executive of Queensland South Native Title Services, which assisted Kabi Kabi people with their claim, said the decision was an acknowledgment of the rights of traditional owners.

"Kabi Kabi people have a right to move about on the land, to camp on the land, to build temporary structures, to teach their kids, to take some resources, to hunt, fish," he said.

"Rights that coexist with the rights that every other Australian has."

Well now - she's certified their current rights... they have access to Open Range, can be present on it, move about on it and travel over the area.... same as everyone else..... been telling yez that 'native title' is a scam all ways - so let's hear it from the monkeys about how this is all about 'punching down on the poor old Abo' ... it's a scam all ways - the 'native title holders' don't own the land and they can't build a home etc..... so what benefit is there for them?

You see, outside of Idiotsville - Lawfare cuts all ways..... but I sure love baiting the monkeys here.... got 'em all riled up and rearing to go....

Now then - about those super-recalcitrants and Gondwanamo Bay .... all the serial criminals get a shot under native law in Abestine/Two State Solution/Aborassic Park - either the Elders straighten them out, or failing that they go to Gondwanamo with the Evil Lebs and other bomb makers etc.

As long as they're out of our hair somewhere.   8-)

Let's keep an eye on this one:-

https://www.msn.com/en-au/travel/news/kabi-kabi-elders-say-life-will-still-go-on-in-queensland-tourism-hotspots-after-successful-native-title-claim/ar-BB1opHcy?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=ebb7664c60604bb4962128bacb324826&ei=4&sc=shoreline

"Indigenous elders say a landmark native title claim in heavily urbanised and tourist destinations of south-east Queensland will not change the way people enjoy or live in the area.

The Federal Court on Monday formally recognised the Kabi Kabi people as native title holders over 365,345 hectares of land and water on Queensland's Sunshine Coast.

The Sunshine Coast is one of the most populated areas in regional Queensland, with more than 317,000 people calling it home.

The determination marks the first occasion on Australia's east coast when native title has been recognised in a heavily urbanised area.

Native title is the name Australian law gives to the traditional ownership of land and waters that have always belonged to Aboriginal people according to their traditions, laws and customs.
The Commonwealth Native Title Act sets out how native title rights are to be recognised and protected.

Kabi Kabi traditional owner Brian Warner said the native title declaration does not apply to any land used by the government or any freehold land that's been bought by citizens.

"It applies to Aboriginal land or unallocated state land, areas of cultural significance," Mr Warner said.

"National parks, state forests and reserves."

The decision recognises the Kabi Kabi people's non-exclusive rights to areas including Gympie, Maroochydore, Caloundra, Bribie Island, Mudjimba Island and popular tourist areas around Noosa North Shore and Teewah Beach.

Queensland South Native Title Services CEO Tim Wishart said Queenslanders and visitors will notice little, if any, difference to areas under native title even if they own property in the region.

"For mainstream Australia, native title is a relatively benign thing, it is not going to affect them," he said.

"The Kabi Kabi people were recognised as holding non-exclusive native title, that means that the rights are exercisable subject to the laws of the state and the Commonwealth.

"They can't prohibit people from going places, they can't stop people going onto beaches, or onto Mudjimba Island or Mount Coolum. Native title isn't a grant of land, it's a recognition of rights."

The traditional country of the Kabi Kabi People is along the Sunshine Coast from north of Brisbane to the Gregory and Isaac rivers south of Bundaberg.

The land also takes in the eastern part of the coastal ranges including the volcanic Glasshouse Mountains and the Mary River, which flows from the Conondale Ranges to the sea near Maryborough.

The court's decision only applies to Part A of the Kabi Kabi people's claim, which extends in the south from Elimbah Creek catchment area, Sandstone Point and Bribie Island, north to Cooloola National Park, Curra State Forest, Mary River and the Isis River, and in the east from lowest astronomical tide of the coastline west to Nambour, Jimna and the Burnett and Coast ranges.

Queensland South Native Title Service's Tim Wishart says Parts B and C of the claim are yet to be determined.

"Part B is a heavily urbanised area starting at about Caboolture and going south, and that's still under assessment by the state," he said.

"Part C is an area in which some other Indigenous people assert they hold native title rights.

"The court might have to decide who has rights then, that will happen in the future, I don't know exactly when."

There are many sacred and ceremonial sites on Kabi Kabi land including bora rings, used for gatherings, dancing, and ceremonies, as well as axe grinding and painting sites.

Brian Warner said the short answer is, no.

"Life hasn't ended, and life will still go on the way it's been happening up until today," Mr Warner said.

"So, nothing will cease.

"The only thing is people recognising our right to reside on country or be part of a part of a local community or grassroots level or whatever level we're at."

The Kabi Kabi people have been lobbying for decades to receive native title recognition.

Their first native title claim was lodged in the mid 1990s."

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:01am:

It's really very amusing. Crappler thinks he's contributing to the wider body of research by copy and pasting links from Sky "news" into a dying forum almost nobody sees. And even those that see it ignore him. You've got to admit, that's worth a laugh.

You're not even laugh worthy you're so pathetic.

Grapplers links were not from "Sky" news.

Quote:

"Indigenous elders say a landmark native title claim in heavily urbanised and tourist destinations of south-east Queensland will not change the way people enjoy or live in the area. The Federal Court on Monday formally recognised the Kabi Kabi people as native title holders over 365,345 hectares/902,787 acres of land and water on Queensland's Sunshine Coast.(nearly a million acres or 3,653 square kilometers) The Sunshine Coast is one of the most populated areas in regional Queensland, with more than 317,000 people calling it home. The determination marks the first occasion on Australia's east coast when native title has been recognised in a heavily urbanised area. Native title is the name Australian law gives to the traditional ownership of land and waters that have always belonged to Aboriginal people according to their traditions, laws and customs. The Commonwealth Native Title Act sets out how native title rights are to be recognised and protected. Kabi Kabi traditional owner Brian Warner said the native title declaration does not apply to any land used by the government or any freehold land that's been bought by citizens. "It applies to Aboriginal land or unallocated state land, areas of cultural significance," Mr Warner said. "National parks, state forests and reserves." The decision recognises the Kabi Kabi people's non-exclusive rights to areas including Gympie, Maroochydore, Caloundra, Bribie Island, Mudjimba Island and popular tourist areas around Noosa North Shore and Teewah Beach. Queensland South Native Title Services CEO Tim Wishart said Queenslanders and visitors will notice little, if any, difference to areas under native title even if they own property in the region. "For mainstream Australia, native title is a relatively benign thing, it is not going to affect them," he said. "The Kabi Kabi people were recognised as holding non-exclusive native title, that means that the rights are exercisable subject to the laws of the state and the Commonwealth. "They can't prohibit people from going places, they can't stop people going onto beaches, or onto Mudjimba Island or Mount Coolum. Native title isn't a grant of land, it's a recognition of rights." The traditional country of the Kabi Kabi People is along the Sunshine Coast from north of Brisbane to the Gregory and Isaac rivers south of Bundaberg. The land also takes in the eastern part of the coastal ranges including the volcanic Glasshouse Mountains and the Mary River, which flows from the Conondale Ranges to the sea near Maryborough. The court's decision only applies to Part A of the Kabi Kabi people's claim, which extends in the south from Elimbah Creek catchment area, Sandstone Point and Bribie Island, north to Cooloola National Park, Curra State Forest, Mary River and the Isis River, and in the east from lowest astronomical tide of the coastline west to Nambour, Jimna and the Burnett and Coast ranges. Queensland South Native Title Service's Tim Wishart says Parts B and C of the claim are yet to be determined. "Part B is a heavily urbanised area starting at about Caboolture and going south, and that's still under assessment by the state," he said. "Part C is an area in which some other Indigenous people assert they hold native title rights. "The court might have to decide who has rights then, that will happen in the future, I don't know exactly when." There are many sacred and ceremonial sites on Kabi Kabi land including bora rings, used for gatherings, dancing, and ceremonies, as well as axe grinding and painting sites. Brian Warner said the short answer is, no. "Life hasn't ended, and life will still go on the way it's been happening up until today," Mr Warner said. "So, nothing will cease. "The only thing is people recognising our right to reside on country or be part of a part of a local community or grassroots level or whatever level we're at." The Kabi Kabi people have been lobbying for decades to receive native title recognition. Their first native title claim was lodged in the mid 1990s."

I'll put it down to a type-o where they mention "Isaac" river, it's the "Isis" River,which is mentioned again spelt correctly further down.

That brings to a point of where one groups boundaries end and another starts. Making/granting this massive native title claim they have said will not be exclusionary to non Aboriginals and people will still be able to do what they've always done

so why has an area(made a public issue) at Burrum Heads that is also Kabi Kabi/Gubbi Gubbi country been included in the Butchulla Native title claim on Fraser Island?
And they closed off an area of foreshore to the public stopping access to the beach.

What I take exception to is "being allowed to erect temporary shelters" where ever they like.

All temporary shelters or fishing shacks built anywhere on state land by non indigenous people going back nearly 100 years have been removed in the last 20 to 30 years. It's not allowed.

Further more when they set up these temporary shelters etc. what are they going to use as toilet amenities? What specifically are the natural resources? Shouldn't be mining resources.

Gnads wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 8:07am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 7:01am: It's really very amusing. Crappler thinks he's contributing to the wider body of research by copy and pasting links from Sky "news" into a dying forum almost nobody sees. And even those that see it ignore him. You've got to admit, that's worth a laugh. You're not even laugh worthy you're so pathetic. Grapplers links were not from "Sky" news.

The forum isn't 'dying' either - it's actually becoming a force for positive change in the Madness that has been sweeping the country.  This is not the first time that something posted and argued here has been either repeated verbatim in public comment by a politician or has become the way things are done - reasonably so that all are on the same page as with this issue of 'land title'.

Yes - posting the links and comments (some just vanish apart from their headline -the ones about such things as 'claims.. hmmmm) shows that in the first ten or so half were ABC, some Guardian and others AAP - and all of two Sky.

Mothra's, and a few other's, imaginations have gotten hold of them and they have lost their minds over Sky.  As I said - I scarcely watch Sky other than when there's nothing on and I might drop in for a few minutes to see what's under discussion.

I loathe pro-Hamas people, so here - England's Telegraph:-

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/michael-palin-s-honorary-oxford-degree-ceremony-disrupted-by-pro-palestine-protesters/ar-BB1ox4gT?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=600cee6203c547b8bc6814cd932dbe11&ei=8&sc=shoreline

Oh!  Lookee here - Sky had the temerity to ask a question!!!!  The horror - the horror.... think of the children.. can't have them discussing this kind of thing..... ummmm... wait a minute... ummmmm.. should we even be considering such things?... Ummmm... don't you DARE raise anything remotely controversial for discussion here!  We take our put-downs very seriously in the Fourth Reich (under development from the Neo-neoconservatives like trannies desperately hanging on to their 'established science' under the dire threat of Cass and the full body of knowledge being assembled and analysed by experts worldwide)....

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/should-under-18s-be-able-to-vote/vi-BB1nU3Ez?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=e755c2da738d4b939def7b4611791401&ei=35&sc=shoreline  (NO!  Too bloody dorky and full of it!)...

Truly the Woke need waking up.... solidly asleep in every way ...

"so why has an area(made a public issue) at Burrum Heads that is also Kabi Kabi/Gubbi Gubbi country been included in the Butchulla Native title claim on Fraser Island?
And they closed off an area of foreshore to the public stopping access to the beach."

I'm waiting on the declaration from Bris-Brain that there will be an access corridor 'shared' for everyone - same as waiting for Ho chi Minns to declare Mt Warning open again and get to work repairing the track.  It's a state election year - hold firm - if they don;t overturn these insane decisions - VOTE THEM OUT!

It shocks me that in the same area where the Federal Court has finally come out and made clear the restrictions on 'native title', your state 'government' of Neo-Fascists are flatly refusing to fix their obvious mistake there of chopping off access to a public beach.

WTF do they think they are?

VOTE THEM OUT!  GET SOMEONE IN WHO WILL DO THE JOB PROPERLY!

... and the lawfare rolls on.... one part of the definition is the use of law as a weapon of war....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queensland-government-to-challenge-aboriginal-group-s-exclusive-use-claim-of-great-keppel-island-land/ar-BB1oKRPd?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=7e60bc1089c04341abb6d8f7e9de55e0&ei=9

"Queensland government to challenge Aboriginal group's exclusive use claim of Great Keppel Island land

An Aboriginal corporation has lodged a native title claim for exclusive use of land on Great Keppel Island-Woppa on the southern Great Barrier Reef.

The Woppaburra people are hoping to claim nine square kilometres of land on Great Keppel Island, off the central Queensland coast near Rockhampton and known traditionally as Woppa, including an air strip and the abandoned "party paradise" Mercure resort.

The Queensland government will challenge the claim.

"Since the closing of the resort site in 2007 the then-new owners failed to remove debris, render the site safe, commence any ventures to rehabilitate the island, or restore any confidence in a viable future," the Woppaburra Saltwater Aboriginal Corporation (WSAC) said this morning.
"The island environment and infrastructure have deteriorated to the point where visitations have reduced and local businesses have suffered.

"We have an obligation to work towards improving this situation."

In 2021 the traditional owners were formally recognised as the native title holders over several islands in the area, including parts of Great Keppel.

They are now seeking exclusive rights to parts of the island, including the airstrip and an abandoned, derelict resort.

Premier Steven Miles it was not unusual for the state government to oppose exclusive use.

"This happens quite commonly. There is a native title process that these claims go through, and the state as an interested party, as a significant land holder, is a respondent and we respond on behalf of the state," he said.

"We seek to make sure that the aspirations of First Nations people can be realised while also ensuring Queenslanders can continue to have access to the places they love."

Sustainable development
WSAC added if the exclusive use claim was successful it could take decades for any change in tenure to be recognised."

Well - they brought it on themselves.... maybe they'll re-consider the wisdom of 'treaties' now..... I doubt it.... not a bright lot these politicians. Of course they want the airstrip and the resort..... that way they can live in the resort and stop other people from landing there.

Oooh - good old Queensland.... leading the way again.... stoopid is as stoopid does, suh, and enough is never enough ... nobody seems to know what 'native title' means - so better to simply abolish it in entirety .....

I TOLD YOU SO!

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/residents-angered-over-secretive-indigenous-land-grab/ar-BB1oPLej?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=b758df48a170479cb0ea59b822c257b0&ei=9&sc=shoreline

Residents angered over 'secretive' Indigenous land grab
Story by David Southwell For Daily Mail Australia

"Locals are up in arms over what is being called a 'secretive' land grab after an Indigenous corporation bid for freehold ownership of the two main townships on south-east Queensland's K'gari (formerly Fraser Island).

The Butchulla people, who hold native title over most of K'gari along with freehold lease on 30hectares, have lodged the claim to five square kilometres of Eurong and Happy Valley transferred to them as 'inalienable freehold' under the Aboriginal Land Act.

Locals claim they were only told the transfer was 'definitely happening' at a meeting last week with the Department of Resources, Butchulla Aboriginal Corporation and Fraser Coast Council. 
Fraser Island Association president David Anderson said the move only comes because of an apparent administrative blunder in the 1960s that failed to gazette the township reserves for Eurong and Happy Valley.

Mr Anderson said there were fears non-Indigenous residents and tourists could be locked out of the new area after the Butchulla Aboriginal Corporation allegedly said they would be viewed as 'trespassers'.

'We believe that's going to be the attitude for all of their land,' Mr Anderson told the Courier Mail.

'They want land. They've got Native Title over the rest of the island and now they want even more freehold than they've already got. It's just a gimme. I mean, how much do you want?'

Happy Valley Community Association secretary Scott Bell accused those involved of making a 'secretive deal' and said it only came to light by 'accident'.

'They (the Butchulla) made a claim on our police reserve, our education reserve and the esplanade which effectively denies us access to the beach,' he said.

'What people don't realise is that the block of land next door where you go to exercise or walk your dog, you may not be able to do that in the future.'

A Department of Resources spokesman denied a deal had been made and said the meeting last week was to keep the community informed.

'The department continues to work with the Butchulla people, the Fraser Coast Regional Council and the community on the proposed transfers,' the spokesperson said.

Mr Bell said if the transfer goes ahead his association was ready to mount a legal challenge.

On Sunday the Queensland government announced it would challenge a Native Title claim for exclusive ownership and use of Great Keppel Island.

Traditional owners the Woppaburra people submitted a fresh claim to the region off the Capricorn Coast in Central Queensland.

The claim - which is in its pre-notification stage - petitions for the exclusive possession of nine lots and one partial lot totalling just over nine square metres.

In 2021, the Woppaburra people were formally recognised as the traditional owners and Native Title holders of 570sq m of land and sea off the coast of Yeppoon.

The recognition also granted the Woppaburra people exclusive use over parts of Great Keppel Island.

However, the native title did not include the resort on the island, which was run by Contiki and was under a private lease held by Tower Holdings.

The resort, which was a popular tourist attraction, was abandoned in 2008 and subsequently demolished 10 years later.

The Queensland government then cancelled Tower Holdings' lease in 2023 over unpaid rent owed by the operator in the amount of almost $900,000.

The termination of the lease allowed the Woppaburra people to submit a second native title claim which included the area covered by the resort and its airstrip.

It is understood the area may not be considered vacant land but rather as a strategic land management reserve under the Department of Resources."

Native Title can only be claimed on vacant Crown land that is not gazetted for another purpose.

Yes this Butchulla mob are a piece of work. Getting worse by the day.

Gnads wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 10:04am:

Yes this Butchulla mob are a piece of work. Getting worse by the day.

And the sleeping beauties here and elsewhere reckon it's not happening.... and have no real idea.... and don't care anyway since it's not their homes being grabbed and their lifestyles destroyed deliberately.

This style of 'government' has to be stopped..... believe me or not.... these appointed mate public servants - given a fat 'job' on contract as reward for their 'service to the agenda' have to be dragged out and booted into the gutters to live... the stacked judiciary must receive the same treatment ....and elected government must be brought to heel.

I'm not the only one who can clearly see that Neo-Feudalism is taking over this country.... and it is not good for anyone but them and their mates.

I want you to read this carefully ... see any contradictions:-

"A Department of Resources spokesman denied a deal had been made and said the meeting last week was to keep the community informed.

'The department continues to work with the Butchulla people, the Fraser Coast Regional Council and the community on the proposed transfers,' the spokesperson said."

SEE ANY CONTRADICTIONS?

"Let me make myself perfectly clear here - NO deal has been done on these proposed transfers... and Clinton did NOT have sex with that woman!!  when we talk about proposed transfers, we are only talking about what we are planning to do, with or without your leave or even input if you live there....and under no circumstances are you permitted to even suggest that means some deal has been done behind your backs!  Mind your own business, you home owners, voters, and others.... and leave your betters to do their jobs!!"

Aside:-  Why do you imagine that our 'immigration' is primarily from those countries with a massively inbuilt 'caste' system .... wherein the Overlord holds absolute sway ...... are you all asleep all of the time?  Your country and your homes are being stolen from under your feet and you go out and play bowls.... you watch Albo and Dutto and their antics and think they are just a pair of cute monkeys.... good for a laugh over a beer then home ...

Those people could not be more dead serious about what they are doing..... they and their henchpersons at all levels of government including the 'heads' of departments who have been snuck in on us from the ranks of the faithful to push the same agenda ....

Do you imagine that the Queensland government couldn't just walk in, say 'this is what native title means, so forget it' - and that's it?  You think the 'Federal court' could - and should - not just walk in and say - 'no acceptable under Native title - you've got your freehold and that's it."?

Why do you imagine the elected government in Queersland does not order its department to cease and desist from the invasion of people's private properties and homes and the destruction of their quiet lives in retirement?

WTF do they all think they are?  smacking Emperors?  Take back the asylums NOW!

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 10:38am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 10:04am: Yes this Butchulla mob are a piece of work. Getting worse by the day. And the sleeping beauties here and elsewhere reckon it's not happening.... and have no real idea.... and don't care anyway since it's not their homes being grabbed and their lifestyles destroyed deliberately. This style of 'government' has to be stopped..... believe me or not.... these appointed mate public servants - given a fat 'job' on contract as reward for their 'service to the agenda' have to be dragged out and booted into the gutters to live... the stacked judiciary must receive the same treatment ....and elected government must be brought to heel. I'm not the only one who can clearly see that Neo-Feudalism is taking over this country.... and it is not good for anyone but them and their mates. I want you to read this carefully ... see any contradictions:- "A Department of Resources spokesman denied a deal had been made and said the meeting last week was to keep the community informed. 'The department continues to work with the Butchulla people, the Fraser Coast Regional Council and the community on the proposed transfers,' the spokesperson said." SEE ANY CONTRADICTIONS? "Let me make myself perfectly clear here - NO deal has been done on these proposed transfers... and Clinton did NOT have sex with that woman!!  when we talk about proposed transfers, we are only talking about what we are planning to do, with or without your leave or even input if you live there....and under no circumstances are you permitted to even suggest that means some deal has been done behind your backs!  Mind your own business, you home owners, voters, and others.... and leave your betters to do their jobs!!" Aside:-  Why do you imagine that our 'immigration' is primarily from those countries with a massively inbuilt 'caste' system .... wherein the Overlord holds absolute sway ...... are you all asleep all of the time?  Your country and your homes are being stolen from under your feet and you go out and play bowls.... you watch Albo and Dutto and their antics and think they are just a pair of cute monkeys.... good for a laugh over a beer then home ... Those people could not be more dead serious about what they are doing..... they and their henchpersons at all levels of government including the 'heads' of departments who have been snuck in on us from the ranks of the faithful to push the same agenda .... Do you imagine that the Queensland government couldn't just walk in, say 'this is what native title means, so forget it' - and that's it?  You think the 'Federal court' could - and should - not just walk in and say - 'no acceptable under Native title - you've got your freehold and that's it."? Why do you imagine the elected government in Queersland does not order its department to cease and desist from the invasion of people's private properties and homes and the destruction of their quiet lives in retirement? WTF do they all think they are?  smacking Emperors?  Take back the asylums NOW!

re: your highlights ... I certainly did ...

that's just bureaucratic weasel talk for we are going to go ahead & do it.

Couldn't lie straight in bed.

Precisely!!

Now who among those residents there has the money to take on a huge bureaucracy and the government itself in the same government's stacked courts?

Who is going to back them in their desperate fight to simply keep their homes and peace and their quiet lifestyle?  Which 'party' is going to stand up for them?

War is being waged on them right now.... with government funding and approval.

WTF??

Still not lawfare to bring in the voice by stealth, how embarrassing.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 12:37pm:

Still not lawfare to bring in the voice by stealth, how embarrassing.

It's all right - we all understand your lacks... your choice to be blind to reality, troll.

Lawfare - the extension of war by other means - i.e. abuse of law.

Now lessee .......  Native Title offers, according to the Federal court:-

The Commonwealth Native Title Act sets out how native title rights are to be recognised and protected.

.  does not apply to any land used by the government or any freehold land that's been bought by citizens.

.  it applies to Aboriginal land or unallocated state land, areas of cultural significance, National parks, state forests and reserves.

.  non-exclusive rights to areas

. recognised as holding non-exclusive native title, that means that the rights are exercisable subject to the laws of the state and the Commonwealth.

. can't prohibit people from going places, they can't stop people going onto beaches. Native title isn't a grant of land, it's a recognition of rights.

Lessee now:-

THIS lot - well... just look below - it's all there... as for this being part of The Voice By Stealth .... it's an attempt to twist and distort an existing law so as to give what that Voice would have handed over.... total possession of ALL that land, including freehold land held by others.   So lessee again.... they're not going directly after the FREEHOLD lands..... just grabbing everything else so that living there is non-viable.... and who's going to buy that from them when they are forced out?  Now then - this prohibiting people from free use and access to their own homes and going places freely and sharing use ..... nah - this can't be handed over - EVER.... not under 'native title' or the Native LAND Act (note the difference?)!  They've got their share of freehold for free.. enough to live on ad enjoy peace and quiet ....  stuff 'em!

Enough is enough.... stuff 'em!  Someone will....

You can be as blind and stupid as you like, Sacka..... one day it will all be yours...... YOU drink it!

Just think, Sacka - even if you are an Aborigine, any land totally taken over by one group where you live - you'd better be of the 'right' group, eh?  Seven descendant small 'bands' of a former mission, Wadeye - can't co-exist without killing one another and battling it out for supremacy...... for some reason their forebears were taken to the mission, and yet not one of these groups wants to leave it!!

To paraphrase an old Vietnamese saying - lock seven Aboriginal bands in a room and within twenty minutes one will emerge victorious!!

When YOUR 'wrong' group gains control over where you live - you'll be for it!!

I can't wait..... I'll be laughing as it comes over the news.....YOU ASKED FOR IT - same as Queensland asked for it by throwing its hands in its panties and  crying about 'treaties and other Voice By Stealth moves....

The only question is:-  how much of this crap will the Queensland people take?  A decent LNP or ON would romp in IF they could just get their poo together.... for a change....

Nah then - about that State of Origin - better rush out and put a bet on Queensland to ensure they fahr ken lose...

So you've taken a "No" vote on the referendum not to mean that the concept of a constitutionally enshrined voice for Indigenous Australians to parliament was shot down, but instead that nothing can be done to assist them, even by legal methods, government policy or charitable efforts, for all time in perpetuity?

You cite in these various threads, anything done to help them, or even examples of people demanding change when they die in custody, as "lawfare".

You're not even sticking to a consistent point, you're just trying to shoehorn any news about Indigenous Australians into your obsession and use that to justify them getting unfair treatment making you the victim.

We've been through this already...

You're not fooling anyone and just making yourself look like a moron.

Keep trying..... the States immediately started up saying they would implement all the components, one by one, that were demanded by the voice...

The Labor controlled states apparently do not feel they are bound by the majority vote of the Australian people as a whole, or of the majorities in their own states.  As neo-Feudal lords, Gauleiters, Kommissars, Apparatchiks, and Reichsleiters, they are beholden ONLY to their own consciences and to the Party and its official line (draws another sharp knife), the rewards for which are clear - a future G-G spot or 'head honcho' in a government department or such (handling Robodebt or something.... today on news - 'NSW Minister for Music and The Late Night Economy') - at somewhere near $1m as year, or as a 'minister' on a salary package of $3-4 MILLION a year.

What are you - deaf, dumb and blind?  Here's a match - light that gas light.... it might just open your vision enough to see.....  ::)

You can run around all you like raving about people 'crying' about a vote that was 'won' as if it was lost... clearly you do not wish to see reality - the States are doing this Voice By Stealth on behalf of Labor International, since Federal Labor LOST IT at the polling booth!!

What are you - deaf, dumb and blind... or just deliberately stupid?  WTF kind of 'education' have YOU had?  What kind of Usual Suspect are you?  How much does Party Central pay you to be so stupid (visions of some 'call centre' with back-packers paid to spout this madness)?  Are you joking - or are you really that mad?

Best you check my CV... a brain in your head would be afraid... very afraid .... I used to monitor the media...... and a few other things... the Eld Gel reminded me of that .... not much gets past me ... I have controlled alief down to a T .....

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 9:15pm:

Keep trying..... the States immediately started up saying they would implement all the components, one by one, that were demanded by the voice...

Interesting, so we are back to your refusal to articulate what you think the voice is.

There is a difference between what the voice was proposed to be, that is, an advisory body designed to give Indigenous Australians a greater role in the legislative process by providing them with a formal mechanism to advise the Australian Parliament and government on policies and issues that affect their communities, vs what the outcomes of that advice would be in terms of benefits to Indigenous people it could help achieve.

We voted No to the advisory group, not No to ever helping Indigenous Australians ever again, for all time, in perpetuity.

This whole time you've been claiming you were against what the voice was, but now it's clear you've let your mask slip and this whole time you didn't want what it was to achieve, in helping Indigenous Australians, to come to fruition.

Unless you want to clear the air and correct the record, this is a rather shocking admission.

Shocking as in it is a terrible position to hold, but it is of absolutely zero surprise you hold it, no shock there.

Still running around whining as if the Voice referendum had passed! Unbelievable!

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 7:41am:

Still running around whining as if the Voice referendum had passed! Unbelievable!

Thank you, Herr Goering.... clearly you need to stay off what it is you're on - the Voice FAILED - the States are sneaking in every part of it behind the voter's backs.

**coughs** even you can see that these are two separate issues and two separate thrusts to divide and give inequalities in this country.

Grow up....... I can't re-train idjits every five minutes - I have whales to watch and such... books to write.... people to preach to about life, law and equality.... do some work for yourselves and getchu heads outchu asses!

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 7:33am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:15pm: Keep trying..... the States immediately started up saying they would implement all the components, one by one, that were demanded by the voice... Interesting, so we are back to your refusal to articulate what you think the voice is.

You missed the 26 page link of Albo's one page simple request, with details of what is demanded?

Learn to read.  You are a classic troll - you NEVER read a single thing, just rant and rave and ad hom.

Grow up.  You been to Fraser Island yet to preach your virtuous ideas to the freeholders living there on their bought and paid for blocks in their bought and paid for homes - compared to - say the seven hectares free gifted as freehold to the Whingers?

Worked out yet that States do NOT possess the right to make 'treaties' with 1100 disparate groups across Australia and are bound by the will of the people already expressed?  Herr Hitler?  Any answers?  A little bombast perhaps?  A little obfuscation and dancing around the issues?

You wouldn't have the balls to even try....

So according to Idiotsville, the reality that the voice was thrashed means that everyone shyould ignore what the Labor states are doing without  and actually against the approval of their people.  You'd make a great Fascist/Stalinist/etc dictator.  "All must be subservient to the State!" - except out lots as chosen...... you are the problem - not the solution.  Gotta be a sheila or raised as one...

Brisbane!!   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D 

You ARE sitting in some padded spot paid to push this BS as instructed to blindly follow by complete idiots bent on subjugation of the general populace by chopping away at the Tree of Democracy one axe bite at a time!!!

You ARE a sheila!! That's how sheilas and dictators think!! There is only one thing worse than Queensland Labor, love - their Opposition... but what choice do the real people there have?

This gets better by the day..... QUEENSLAND!  BRISBANE no less!  Splendid isolation from reality!!

Easy trip to Fraser Island..... just use the expense account... plenty more where that came from!!  Give us your full recorded and supported by video and audio report of your discussions with the freeholders living there and wanting to live in peace.

What's your next twist and turn?  No balls for the trip there?  It's just up the road apiece - you could get the pulse of the real people on the ground for a change - you know - The Forgotten/Deliberately Overlooked STAKEHOLDERS!?!

When are you starting the trip to reality?

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 12:28pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 7:33am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 9:15pm: Keep trying..... the States immediately started up saying they would implement all the components, one by one, that were demanded by the voice... Interesting, so we are back to your refusal to articulate what you think the voice is. You missed the 26 page link of Albo's one page simple request, with details of what is demanded? Learn to read.  You are a classic troll - you NEVER read a single thing, just rant and rave and ad home.

The problem is what you're complaining about being "lawfare" and the voice by stealth has nothing to do with the voice.

At all.

Hence why I question if even you know what it is...

It's as if you're just using it a catch all for anything that mentions indigenous people.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 12:39pm:

Brisbane!!   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  You ARE sitting in some padded spot paid to push this BS as instructed to blindly follow by complete idiots bent on subjugation of the general populace by chopping away at the Tree of Democracy one axe bite at a time!!! You ARE a sheila!! That's how sheilas and dictators think!! There is only one thing worse than Queensland Labor, love - their Opposition... but what choice do the real people there have? This gets better by the day..... QUEENSLAND!  BRISBANE no less!  Splendid isolation from reality!! Easy trip to Fraser Island..... just use the expense account... plenty more where that came from!!  Give us your full recorded and supported by video and audio report of your discussions with the freeholders living there and wanting to live in peace. What's your next twist and turn?  No balls for the trip there?  It's just up the road apiece - you could get the pulse of the real people on the ground for a change - you know - The Forgotten/Deliberately Overlooked STAKEHOLDERS!?! When are you starting the trip to reality?

I think I broke him...

Are you ok?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 4:41pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 12:39pm: Brisbane!!   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  You ARE sitting in some padded spot paid to push this BS as instructed to blindly follow by complete idiots bent on subjugation of the general populace by chopping away at the Tree of Democracy one axe bite at a time!!! You ARE a sheila!! That's how sheilas and dictators think!! There is only one thing worse than Queensland Labor, love - their Opposition... but what choice do the real people there have? This gets better by the day..... QUEENSLAND!  BRISBANE no less!  Splendid isolation from reality!! Easy trip to Fraser Island..... just use the expense account... plenty more where that came from!!  Give us your full recorded and supported by video and audio report of your discussions with the freeholders living there and wanting to live in peace. What's your next twist and turn?  No balls for the trip there?  It's just up the road apiece - you could get the pulse of the real people on the ground for a change - you know - The Forgotten/Deliberately Overlooked STAKEHOLDERS!?! When are you starting the trip to reality? I think I broke him... Are you ok?

You broke yourself the moment you started... you're out of steam....... when are you going to Fraser Island to consult the majority freeholders who do not want all this absolute control over every other part - I'm afraid your pets are going to have to be content with their ancient rights to walk the land, catch fish, build a fire etc - same as everyone else - anywhere apart from on freehold land.

5 people living there out of 152 - and they reckon they own the place.....  that dog ain't gonna hunt.... get used to it.  I know - why not hold a vote of the Island's regular inhabitants since you are petrified of the idea of going to the other 147 OWNERS and trying to sell them your tripe.... then you could start on the rest of Australia again...... might do better on the replay, eh?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 7:40pm:

So you've taken a "No" vote on the referendum not to mean that the concept of a constitutionally enshrined voice for Indigenous Australians to parliament was shot down, but instead that nothing can be done to assist them, even by legal methods, government policy or charitable efforts, for all time in perpetuity? You cite in these various threads, anything done to help them, or even examples of people demanding change when they die in custody, as "lawfare". You're not even sticking to a consistent point, you're just trying to shoehorn any news about Indigenous Australians into your obsession and use that to justify them getting unfair treatment making you the victim. We've been through this already... You're not fooling anyone and just making yourself look like a moron.

You as a moron have no right to call anyone else a moron.

Well - you could possibly say that those things done 'in-house' via 'policy' of a 'department' or 'regulation' same-same - are thus 'policyfare' and 'regulationfare' ........ but since all these bodies etc are set up under legislation - they are properly Legislationfare = Lawfare - and extension of Civil warfare (in this case) by other means,....

Simple really - only the mentally deficient could not follow such simple things...

Say ......... rather than taking a VOTE of ALL FREEHOLDERS over the issue of HANDING FREEHOLD over land currently held for all under NATIVE TITLE and SHARING USAGE to a small group of ITINERANTS who comprise less than 4% of the TOTAL POPULATION of the area under consideration... regulationfare and policyfare should just be handed down by the Fearless Leaders appointed by the 'government' using its powers of LAW.... and bugger the will of the MAJORITY!

Socio-Fascism to a T .... the Gauleiters, reichleiters, Kommissars and other Petty Despots win over the people in a democracy.... and clearly they are terrified that a single person is assembling all the data for full review in one place ..... and it is more than clear that the accumulated knowledge therein is overwhelmingly showing a chopping down of the tree of Democracy one bite at a time.....

And out of the Wreckage of the West there rode one mighty hero.... and all of Reality followed after im ...


People's Rights Forever!!  Ne Passerons!!

Gnads wrote on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 6:45pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 7:40pm: So you've taken a "No" vote on the referendum not to mean that the concept of a constitutionally enshrined voice for Indigenous Australians to parliament was shot down, but instead that nothing can be done to assist them, even by legal methods, government policy or charitable efforts, for all time in perpetuity? You cite in these various threads, anything done to help them, or even examples of people demanding change when they die in custody, as "lawfare". You're not even sticking to a consistent point, you're just trying to shoehorn any news about Indigenous Australians into your obsession and use that to justify them getting unfair treatment making you the victim. We've been through this already... You're not fooling anyone and just making yourself look like a moron. You as a moron have no right to call anyone else a moron.

No visit to Fraser Island to persuade the majority of Freeholders there that they should meekly surrender their rights to free movement/shared usager over their and everyone else's National Park?  No move to take a democratic vote of the Stakeholders/Freeholders on Fraser Island to see what THEY want?  .... (distant thunder) ..... Where's the list of the 'lies' I've told?

Oh - and BTW - Aborigines die at a lower rate in 'custody' than they do in their own communities, and at a slightly lower rate than all others while in custody..... if they are more represented in custody - talk it over with their elders and enforce some real change in their culture and attitude. Let's not forget the 76/81 ......... 76/81 ...... 76/81 .... and over 300 'missing' - not many of whom ever made it to a city or elsewhere and if they did - how would they live?  On the streets?  **coughs** I've KNOWN such some women living in cities - they live by selling their bodies ... what are their choices - those few who actually get out of the 'culcha' of death?

Again - putting all the data in one place in preparation for a full review is nothing like what you try to paint it as.... and you are clearly terrified by such a thing happening at all... too much information available to the public is a bad thing, ay?

I'll be pruning it and organising it and writing it all down soon enough ... you mark my words.

Now - get thee to Fraser Island - go - tell those Freeholder Majority Stakeholders that they are about to be shoe-horned into access only to their own lots, making their rights to live there untenable..... Lawfare at its very worst..... and you ARE the problem - not the solution... have the guts to go and face them when you tell them what your ideologists are going to do to them.

150 or so people at a time so nobody notices, eh?

WRONG!!  NOTED!

How I love arguing with fools........   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 7:27pm:

You broke yourself the moment you started... you're out of steam.......

Thanks for the concern, but you're projecting again.


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when are you going to Fraser Island to consult the majority freeholders who do not want all this absolute control over every other part - I'm afraid your pets are going to have to be content with their ancient rights to walk the land, catch fish, build a fire etc - same as everyone else - anywhere apart from on freehold land. 5 people living there out of 152 - and they reckon they own the place.....  that dog ain't gonna hunt.... get used to it.  I know - why not hold a vote of the Island's regular inhabitants since you are petrified of the idea of going to the other 147 OWNERS and trying to sell them your tripe.... then you could start on the rest of Australia again...... might do better on the replay, eh?

You've said a lot without saying much at all.  None of that is lawfare, or has anything to do with The Voice.

Zero.

None.

Nadda.

Nothing.

But you keep pretending that it is the voice by stealth.  It's not even the voice.

Are you ok?

Gnads wrote on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 6:45pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 7:40pm: So you've taken a "No" vote on the referendum not to mean that the concept of a constitutionally enshrined voice for Indigenous Australians to parliament was shot down, but instead that nothing can be done to assist them, even by legal methods, government policy or charitable efforts, for all time in perpetuity? You cite in these various threads, anything done to help them, or even examples of people demanding change when they die in custody, as "lawfare". You're not even sticking to a consistent point, you're just trying to shoehorn any news about Indigenous Australians into your obsession and use that to justify them getting unfair treatment making you the victim. We've been through this already... You're not fooling anyone and just making yourself look like a moron. You as a moron have no right to call anyone else a moron.

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 7:55pm:

Lawfare at its very worst.....

You do realise there is a difference between a law you don't like, and lawfare right?

In general terms, Lawfare is the use of legal systems and principles as a means to achieve a military, political, or economic goal. It involves using the law as a weapon of conflict, often in a strategic and systematic way to undermine or weaken an adversary.

A law you don't like refers to any law that an individual or group disagrees with or finds unfavourable. This discontent can stem from personal beliefs, political views, or perceived injustices.

They are not the same thing.

ANY unjust law is no law at all.... the LAW requires that all be treated equally - when that is clearly not the case, then the law concerned is no law at all. 

Ah, yes - the fixed firmament of the stellae of 'law' - those things that are constantly changing and will be forever changed..... so YOU believe we MUST accept what is running now, but only if we are of a certain group in society ......... the same as the Aborigines accepted all those things before, ay ... all those things they claim drove and continue to drive them to demand a separate voice, etc, by any and all means?????? 

So it's all right for one special preferred group to demand change when they see wrong - but not any other ... and especially any group that sees real wrong in the first group's demands?  So Hamas demands the exgerrmination of all Jews - Israel retaliates to mass murder, rape and degradation of others beyond human comprehension by swearing to exterminate Hamas.... but not the people who supported and created Hamas.

Back to your rock... Adolph Jozef Stalitler... the New Jews of Australia reject you...... the WACMAMOFFS - the White Anglo-Celtic Multi-generational Australian Men Over Forty Five ...... the Second Greatest Generation who built on the social changes wrought upon demand from those of The Greatest Generation who suffered and died, and sought a Better Way For All Equally until the sheila-dominated 'social scientists' got into the act in their Frankenstein Mengele Mode and started to label them knuckle-draggers and cave men - ending up with their being made into the most hated person in the land without every having been convicted of a single wrong.........  The Deuce Decision component of Lawfare... and it all started when they threw away the rule book in order to 'protect' women - something they have never succeeded in because they has always attacked the wrong demographic(s).  How could any person justify to and live with him or her self after doing to Deuce what has been done, on the empty basis on which it was done?

Can Lee look in a mirror without a whisper of conscience?  Certainly for as long as the money and the 'kudos' remain at a maniacal level for such blatant abuse of law and of individuals and human and legal rights....

How do you justify your position when it's 76/81 - over 300 missing ........ 76/81 - over 300 missing ....... 76/81 - over 300 missing ....????

History will absolve me - it will hang you in Effigy (a small town in WA somewhere) and everywhere else...

Simple enough even for you....

"Lawfare is the use of legal systems and principles as a means to achieve a military, political, or economic goal."  .... there ya go - you've managed to avoid too much waffle and actually get to the nub ... there's hope for you yet .... so ...... errrrr... where is your justification for all this one-sided Lawfare to push for political and economic goals for only one side by exclusion of the rest .... let alone the military goals of a 'resistance movement' attacking property  etc ...... Mau Mau style....????

**man - THAT Mau Mau at the door below missed out!  They got the other one, too... but you know what?  They were both mature ladies in their forties .... they and their terrier put the Mau Mau to flight.... and some to death.... home invaders beware!!

Now that's a GOOD Mau Mau!!

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

History will absolve me - it will hang you in Effigy (a small town in WA somewhere) and everywhere else... Simple enough even for you....

History is not your friend.

I'd be surprised if you're not already on some watch list for your genocidal musings on here, as well as your calls for segregation and apartheid within Australia.

And you try to hide behind the shield of equality.

Laughable champ...

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 7:30pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 29th, 2024 at 4:59pm: History will absolve me - it will hang you in Effigy (a small town in WA somewhere) and everywhere else... Simple enough even for you.... History is not your friend. I'd be surprised if you're not already on some watch list for your genocidal musings on here, as well as your calls for segregation and apartheid within Australia. And you try to hide behind the shield of equality. Laughable champ...

Oooh - the old ad hom gaslighting trick, eh - must be into your beer time....

History is my friend... you are on the wrong side - the side of racism and discrimination..... champ.

I KNOW you are on a watch list, champ.... nothing genocidal about my stances.... champ... I offer the dissident Aborigine like Mansell what he wants - their own home state .... no problem-o .....  dunno how they're going to fund it, though....

And you try to hide behind a shield of equality, champ.  76/81 - there's your equality, champ.

Laughable, champ.... laughable, slick ....


Footnote:-  Bris-brain -capital of the Smrat State .... the tiny and over-rated South Eastern corner where most Queenslunders live alongside the likes of Ruddski and the Pale Assed Chook, unfortunately for those Queenslunders whose dire fate it is to reside therein ....... and from which they view the rest of Queenslund - the Far Colonies of Central and North Queensland (etc) or Farccanqueue ... as expendable redneck outposts surrounded by civilised native tribes.... sort of the Fort Apaches of Queenslund ...being few and far between other than in the major townships, the Farccanqueuers are easy meat for any Great Socialist Experimental Revolution and can be shoved out of the way piecemeal to make way for the onrushing bulldozers heading for their homes, lifestyles, retirements, and even incomes in the great determination to make a new life and close any gaps for the World's Greatest Victimhood Industry ...  being as how most votes are 'down south' in the idiot savant eddicated area of Bris-Brain, the Great Socialist Experimental Revolution will receive a much warmer welcome there than in Farccanqueue - and when coupled to the great Queenslund Shoulder Chip over once having the earliest school leaving age in Australia... they do spell 'beer' XXXX for ease of reading .... the Great Revolution will receive full speed ahead and full accolades from the ivory towered political class and the 'academic' classes of Queenslund.. The Smrat State!

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 10:04pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 29th, 2024 at 7:30pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 29th, 2024 at 4:59pm: History will absolve me - it will hang you in Effigy (a small town in WA somewhere) and everywhere else... Simple enough even for you.... History is not your friend. I'd be surprised if you're not already on some watch list for your genocidal musings on here, as well as your calls for segregation and apartheid within Australia. And you try to hide behind the shield of equality. Laughable champ... Oooh - the old ad hom gaslighting trick, eh - must be into your beer time.... History is my friend... you are on the wrong side - the side of racism and discrimination..... champ. I KNOW you are on a watch list, champ.... nothing genocidal about my stances.... champ... I offer the dissident Aborigine like Mansell what he wants - their own home state .... no problem-o .....  dunno how they're going to fund it, though.... And you try to hide behind a shield of equality, champ.  76/81 - there's your equality, champ. Laughable, champ.... laughable, slick .... Footnote:-  Bris-brain -capital of the Smrat State .... the tiny and over-rated South Eastern corner where most Queenslunders live alongside the likes of Ruddski and the Pale Assed Chook, unfortunately for those Queenslunders whose dire fate it is to reside therein ....... and from which they view the rest of Queenslund - the Far Colonies of Central and North Queensland (etc) or Farccanqueue ... as expendable redneck outposts surrounded by civilised native tribes.... sort of the Fort Apaches of Queenslund ...being few and far between other than in the major townships, the Farccanqueuers are easy meat for any Great Socialist Experimental Revolution and can be shoved out of the way piecemeal to make way for the onrushing bulldozers heading for their homes, lifestyles, retirements, and even incomes in the great determination to make a new life and close any gaps for the World's Greatest Victimhood Industry ...  being as how most votes are 'down south' in the idiot savant eddicated area of Bris-Brain, the Great Socialist Experimental Revolution will receive a much warmer welcome there than in Farccanqueue - and when coupled to the great Queenslund Shoulder Chip over once having the earliest school leaving age in Australia... they do spell 'beer' XXXX for ease of reading .... the Great Revolution will receive full speed ahead and full accolades from the ivory towered political class and the 'academic' classes of Queenslund.. The Smrat State!

;D All good until you tipped shyte on our beer.

You've got blackfellas in your State of Oranges team who will sing their hearts out in an ad for Tooheys - "I feel like a Tooheys" but won't sing the National anthem. :D

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 10:04pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 29th, 2024 at 7:30pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 29th, 2024 at 4:59pm: History will absolve me - it will hang you in Effigy (a small town in WA somewhere) and everywhere else... Simple enough even for you.... History is not your friend. I'd be surprised if you're not already on some watch list for your genocidal musings on here, as well as your calls for segregation and apartheid within Australia. And you try to hide behind the shield of equality. Laughable champ... Oooh - the old ad hom gaslighting trick, eh - must be into your beer time.... History is my friend... you are on the wrong side - the side of racism and discrimination..... champ.

So what, we just pretend that you haven't advocated for 90% of them being shot in the streets of the Alice, or you didn't advocate for them to be locked up like animals in a zoo then sell tickets to people to go hunt them in the enclosure as long as they stick below the kill limits?

But I'm the racist one?

Sure.

What was that you were saying about gaslighting there chief?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 9:08am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 29th, 2024 at 10:04pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 29th, 2024 at 7:30pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 29th, 2024 at 4:59pm: History will absolve me - it will hang you in Effigy (a small town in WA somewhere) and everywhere else... Simple enough even for you.... History is not your friend. I'd be surprised if you're not already on some watch list for your genocidal musings on here, as well as your calls for segregation and apartheid within Australia. And you try to hide behind the shield of equality. Laughable champ... Oooh - the old ad hom gaslighting trick, eh - must be into your beer time.... History is my friend... you are on the wrong side - the side of racism and discrimination..... champ. So what, we just pretend that you haven't advocated for 90% of them being shot in the streets of the Alice, or you didn't advocate for them to be locked up like animals in a zoo then sell tickets to people to go hunt them in the enclosure as long as they stick below the kill limits? But I'm the racist one? Sure. What was that you were saying about gaslighting there chief?

But there's nothing wrong with some professional kangaroo shooting ey? Got a good market for hides and meat. ;D

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 9:03am:

;D All good until you tipped shyte on our beer. You've got blackfellas in your State of Oranges team who will sing their hearts out in an ad for Tooheys - "I feel like a Tooheys" but won't sing the National anthem. :D

All part of the Cargo Cult... as long as those pallets of Tooheys keep coming...

I see Sacka is still struggling down in the mud of inability to see the vile and violent violation of democracy hshe advocates.....

I never recommended shooting 90% of the Cheers in Alice - just said that 10% might be worth saving  - sort of like the UN Aid or something only being able to rescue a certain number - you try to get out as many of the best that you can so as to have a base to re-grow the group .... Sacka is one confused kid.... dances on a pin trying desperately to stick labels on people...

Another child who imagines - like the feminists and the cheers and such do - that as long as the Cargo Cult continues with all the one-way goodies it must be right, eh?  Stuff everyone and everything else.... what's 150 people freeholding on Fraser Island in the context of the bigger Great Socialist Revolution ... surely the benefits to five Aboriginal freeholders (?????) and no change whatsoever to the free range rights of all the other cheers out-weigh the rights of that majority but now some sudden 'right' to impose on all others .... including the (gasps) foundations of our society.

Very strange thinking our Sacka's and their like..... psychopathic.... they actually think the 'right' to rage and steal in Alice out-weighs the often terrible harm wrought on innocent hard-working people who slowly worked to assemble their worldly goods and then see it smashed or stolen for no reason ..... madness - pure madness..... send in the troops..... get it over with ...

Nah - it was only a suggestion that the sick ones or those in need of a dollar could do a Maverick pretend hunt to earn a few bucks.... easy to see that even a remote atom or two of sense of humour or even deep intellect would be more than your mind could bear....

You are so sloooooow ... now - what about that vile intrusion over the top of democracy going on at Fraser Island ...  when are you actually going to address something instead of slagging along?  You're a lost cause...

Jeez - you turkey - even a full discussion of the Cargo Cult for Abos, women and a bunch of others these days would take pages..... just you try to justify Fraser Island to us first..... someone might actually believe you when you come up with all the fantasies about how the Abos were dispossessed of it when they can still use it as always etc.... yardle, yardle .... that they somehow 'owned' it by visiting it for a fishing trip - meaning that anyone in Australia whose ancestors strolled through what is now a National Park or fishing tripped the West Coast or something 'owned' it and can demand its return.... again - I own half of Australia....

Utter nonsense.... it was declared a National Park - a National Park for all equally - it will remain so...

Now - what is your case for changing that?   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 12:42pm:

Nah - it was only a suggestion that the sick ones or those in need of a dollar could do a Maverick pretend hunt to earn a few bucks.... easy to see that even a remote atom or two of sense of humour or even deep intellect would be more than your mind could bear.... You are so sloooooow ... now - what about that vile intrusion over the top of democracy going on at Fraser Island ...  when are you actually going to address something instead of slagging along?  You're a lost cause... Jeez - you turkey - even a full discussion of the Cargo Cult for Abos, women and a bunch of others these days would take pages..... just you try to justify Fraser Island to us first..... someone might actually believe you when you come up with all the fantasies about how the Abos were dispossessed of it when they can still use it as always etc.... yardle, yardle .... that they somehow 'owned' it by visiting it for a fishing trip - meaning that anyone in Australia whose ancestors strolled through what is now a National Park or fishing tripped the West Coast or something 'owned' it and can demand its return.... again - I own half of Australia.... Utter nonsense.... it was declared a National Park - a National Park for all equally - it will remain so... Now - what is your case for changing that?   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

It's nothing but insults, deflections and running away from scrutiny from you.

You are an intellectual coward.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 12:44pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 30th, 2024 at 12:42pm: Nah - it was only a suggestion that the sick ones or those in need of a dollar could do a Maverick pretend hunt to earn a few bucks.... easy to see that even a remote atom or two of sense of humour or even deep intellect would be more than your mind could bear.... You are so sloooooow ... now - what about that vile intrusion over the top of democracy going on at Fraser Island ...  when are you actually going to address something instead of slagging along?  You're a lost cause... Jeez - you turkey - even a full discussion of the Cargo Cult for Abos, women and a bunch of others these days would take pages..... just you try to justify Fraser Island to us first..... someone might actually believe you when you come up with all the fantasies about how the Abos were dispossessed of it when they can still use it as always etc.... yardle, yardle .... that they somehow 'owned' it by visiting it for a fishing trip - meaning that anyone in Australia whose ancestors strolled through what is now a National Park or fishing tripped the West Coast or something 'owned' it and can demand its return.... again - I own half of Australia.... Utter nonsense.... it was declared a National Park - a National Park for all equally - it will remain so... Now - what is your case for changing that?   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D It's nothing but insults, deflections and running away from scrutiny from you. You are an intellectual coward.

Truth too hard to bear, you intellectual coward, Pal?

Nothing but insults, deflections and running away from scrutiny from you..... exactly like that smart comment right there, chum...... you offered - again - not one word of active contribution to discussion.... yet slag at your betters....   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Now then - what about that vile abrogation of democracy and the sheer racism inherent in the voice and in such things as Fraser Island being pushed one at a time to secure the voice by stealth using lawfare???  Any solid thoughts... or are they still swimming in last night's hangover?

And that, junior - is why we laugh at you coming from Bris-brain in the Smrat State..... kid ....

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Hey, slick - you forgot the brief case about Fraser Island!!  Library's not open Sunday for you to go find an opinion on that one.... maybe your mates at the Browns Plains pub can help you yob it up...  see ya, junior!

Maybe democracy and open discussion are just not your game.... kid .... Jesus I hope you're not related to me with that 'intellect' raging there....

(ain't I a bastard?) ....

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 2:05pm:

Hey, slick - you forgot the brief case about Fraser Island!!  Library's not open Sunday for you to go find an opinion on that one.... maybe your mates at the Browns Plains pub can help you yob it up...  see ya, junior! Maybe democracy and open discussion are just not your game.... kid .... Jesus I hope you're not related to me with that 'intellect' raging there.... (ain't I a bastard?) .... https://i.imgflip.com/8vfrn2.jpg

I've forgotten nothing, it's just off topic and a deflection because it's got nothing to do with the voice by stealth you keep claiming.

You're being as disingenuous as always, bud.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 4:05pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 30th, 2024 at 2:05pm: Hey, slick - you forgot the brief case about Fraser Island!!  Library's not open Sunday for you to go find an opinion on that one.... maybe your mates at the Browns Plains pub can help you yob it up...  see ya, junior! Maybe democracy and open discussion are just not your game.... kid .... Jesus I hope you're not related to me with that 'intellect' raging there.... (ain't I a bastard?) .... https://i.imgflip.com/8vfrn2.jpg I've forgotten nothing, it's just off topic and a deflection because it's got nothing to do with the voice by stealth you keep claiming. You're being as disingenuous as always, bud.

Oh, pal - so YOU get to decide what should be considered?    ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D   You are delusional in your echo chamber, dude..... champ... junior.... delusions of grandeur now!!!   Next you'll try to tell us that handing freehold over Fraser Island to a few maybe local aborigines is the only way to progress!!!  What a hoot!!  .... tiger ......   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Maybe democracy and open discussion are just not your game....

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 4:34pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 30th, 2024 at 4:05pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 30th, 2024 at 2:05pm: Hey, slick - you forgot the brief case about Fraser Island!!  Library's not open Sunday for you to go find an opinion on that one.... maybe your mates at the Browns Plains pub can help you yob it up...  see ya, junior! Maybe democracy and open discussion are just not your game.... kid .... Jesus I hope you're not related to me with that 'intellect' raging there.... (ain't I a bastard?) .... https://i.imgflip.com/8vfrn2.jpg I've forgotten nothing, it's just off topic and a deflection because it's got nothing to do with the voice by stealth you keep claiming. You're being as disingenuous as always, bud. Oh, pal - so YOU get to decide what should be considered?    ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D   You are delusional in your echo chamber, dude..... champ... junior.... delusions of grandeur now!!!   Next you'll try to tell us that handing freehold over Fraser Island to a few maybe local aborigines is the only way to progress!!!  What a hoot!!  .... tiger ......   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D Maybe democracy and open discussion are just not your game....

You set the terms of reference sport.

The Voice is being implemented by stealth using lawfare.

But none of what you're posting has anything to do with a constitutionally enshrined representative body to give advice to government.

I'm all for open discussion but at least keep it on topic.

Unless you'd like to walk back your claims about this thread being examples of the voice by stealth or even examples of lawfare because most simply aren't, and make it a more general look into indigenous issues in Qld then sure.

But if you can't stay within your own goalposts or even on the same field you set, don't be shocked or default back to victimhood when nobody wants to play with you, slugger.

"The Voice is being implemented by stealth using lawfare.'

Finally - your frank admission - one part at a time.... that's what stealth is all about, tiger .... you'll get there yet!!

Now then - about that demand for freehold control over Fraser Island - total control over the lend, eh - jest like the voice demand, champ... little bit at a time, eh ....  where is the need and where is the right?  They have native title and free shared usage, same rights as everyone else, and the right to proper 'ceremonies' at specified times - just not 24/7, you dig, tig?  None of this - "We used to skin fish there - that's a secred site!".

So where is their NEED for total Freehold control over all of Fraser Island and shutting in all other freeholders so as to make their residence untenable and excluding the 500,000 annual visitors .... and where is the Right to do so?

Not a hard question... get it right and I'm sure you'll have no trouble selling it to the majority freeholders on Fraser, buddy ... there are only about 147 or so - a clear majority - of them who aren't the 5 Abos..... they can scarcely count, eh?  What's 147 peaceful, quiet-living, honest citizens' rights compared to The Great Socialist Revolution, eh? .... here is your chance to not only justify your position but get it all together for your class presentation on Monday!!   Slick .... you can just bulldoze those people into the sand, eh?

That should be fun!!!!  The other kids at school won't oppose you like the real world does.... they're all little indoctrinated chicken runs, too!!  Unlike them, around 99% of those who respond with comments to these things oppose them utterly..... slick ...

Arrrgh ... demand for full housing while living remote with no jobs...

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/remote-housing-fix-needed-to-get-real-on-closing-gap/ar-BB1pfbou?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=f4bcde67a3c84833d6046ba9d2ab2d15&ei=24&sc=shoreline

Well - there is an argument here for housing - considering the relative lack of jobs that can procure enough income for families to build a home etc.... Lawfare has many branches....  clearly assistance is needed.... but then - is this to be a gift or to be 'houso' - pay for use?

My idea of the 'rent' paid via 'houso' being payment towards ownership should encourage more responsibility over housing...

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2024 at 6:36pm:

Arrrgh ... demand for full housing while living remote with no jobs... https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/remote-housing-fix-needed-to-get-real-on-closing-gap/ar-BB1pfbou?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=f4bcde67a3c84833d6046ba9d2ab2d15&ei=24&sc=shoreline Well - there is an argument here for housing - considering the relative lack of jobs that can procure enough income for families to build a home etc.... Lawfare has many branches....  clearly assistance is needed.... but then - is this to be a gift or to be 'houso' - pay for use? My idea of the 'rent' paid via 'houso' being payment towards ownership should encourage more responsibility over housing...

Interesting.

Will they use this housing as the headquarters of an advisory group enshrined in the constitution, to advise parliament on laws impacting Indigenous Australians?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 12:12pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 6:36pm: Arrrgh ... demand for full housing while living remote with no jobs... https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/remote-housing-fix-needed-to-get-real-on-closing-gap/ar-BB1pfbou?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=f4bcde67a3c84833d6046ba9d2ab2d15&ei=24&sc=shoreline Well - there is an argument here for housing - considering the relative lack of jobs that can procure enough income for families to build a home etc.... Lawfare has many branches....  clearly assistance is needed.... but then - is this to be a gift or to be 'houso' - pay for use? My idea of the 'rent' paid via 'houso' being payment towards ownership should encourage more responsibility over housing... Interesting. Will they use this housing as the headquarters of an advisory group enshrined in the constitution, to advise parliament on laws impacting Indigenous Australians?

You're just hopelessly entrenched in ideologue delusion.

Beyond redemption .... get ye hence to a monastery.

Gnads wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 12:51pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 4th, 2024 at 12:12pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 6:36pm: Arrrgh ... demand for full housing while living remote with no jobs... https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/remote-housing-fix-needed-to-get-real-on-closing-gap/ar-BB1pfbou?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=f4bcde67a3c84833d6046ba9d2ab2d15&ei=24&sc=shoreline Well - there is an argument here for housing - considering the relative lack of jobs that can procure enough income for families to build a home etc.... Lawfare has many branches....  clearly assistance is needed.... but then - is this to be a gift or to be 'houso' - pay for use? My idea of the 'rent' paid via 'houso' being payment towards ownership should encourage more responsibility over housing... Interesting. Will they use this housing as the headquarters of an advisory group enshrined in the constitution, to advise parliament on laws impacting Indigenous Australians? You're just hopelessly entrenched in ideologue delusion. Beyond redemption .... get ye hence to a monastery.

I'm not the one who started this thread and all the others with the intention of showing the use of Lawfare to implement the voice by stealth.

They're not my goalposts that keep being laughably missed or moved around.

Well - clearly the very thought of all the moves behind the curtains to implement the components of the 'voice' being exposed openly for discussion terrify you.

Why is that, Sacka?  What's so scary about discussion such things demanded in the 'voice' proposal as 'treaties' (cargo cult cash) and 'truthtelling commissions' (one-sided), and so forth?

Why are you so afraid that you have to be so defensive about it?  What will be revealed that isn't already revealed?

Try looking at some of the links and actually viewing the comments instead of blowing hot air around..... it might wake you up.... 99% of comments are NO to all those moves.... you choose to not look at them but try to attack me!!  I'm merely the messenger of truth.... you are clearly terrified by the truth.....


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45 Vinyl
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What a bunch of double speak the term "Truth telling" is. Who is impressed by this kind of rhetoric?

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Steve C
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I don't see this as "aiding reconciliation".  It enables a biased and suspect narrative to be legitimatized.  The Tiwi Island and Santos decision identified the degree to which the indigenous narrative can be manipulated to suit their own purposes.  If one is unable to speak the truth in a court under oath then what are the chances in a biased commission?
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Steve Jones
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"Truth Telling" will only be of any value if BOTH sides of the story are heard and considered impartially. Other than that, those of us who don't identify as Australian indigenous folks will forever be targeted as the big bad invaders who wrecked and ruined everything.
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Paul Myers-Allen
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The referendum result made it clear what the majority of Australians want and it is the gov's responsibility to meet those expectations.  If they can't they need to resign.
Andrew Wilson
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What a load of tripe ... the appointment proceedings for the new Labor lacky GG. - baloney carry-on of absolutely no significance to any aboriginals apart from those playing who invented the ceremony.  We are living in fantasy land.
A C
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WTA??? We, the people, said NO! Typical government... do it anyway.

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Paul H
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More money wasted on the bludgers and grifters and while the countries debt continues to climb higher and higher. One day the pots going to be emty,

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AC
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Who will be the decider of the truth.
Wayne Douglas
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What a joke "what truth telling" their own version of a one side story. STOP the ROTY enough is enough!
John Niven
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Truth Telling what a joke the truth by one person.
The truth is Australia said NO, NO, which part of NO you do not understand
Geoff Hinschen
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All good as it is the truth and nothing but the truth from all sides.
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Lidia Grigg
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Don't bother. Australia said NO at the referendum. Anyway the Government is unable to tell any sort of truth. They are all liars. Don't you idiots ever listen to the people. NO TRUTH TELLING.
David Simpson
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The indigenous telling the truth, What about the rainbow serpent ? Secret womans business?

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David Simpson
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Truth now can someone give me the correct spelling and origins of their word serpent, That is in any one of the 600 dialects of the indigenious. As it goes back to creation so they say there should be many

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andrew harris
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now i really know why they disarmed australia
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"HIC"...pass the flagon brudda..

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 5:42pm:

Well - clearly the very thought of all the moves behind the curtains to implement the components of the 'voice' being exposed openly for discussion terrify you.

Which components of the voice are those?

The advisory group to Parliament?

The enshrining of such a group in the constitution?

The... Well, that's it.  There was nothing else to The Voice.

Where does better housing for Indigenous Australians fall in there?

Is it like Pizzagate, is "housing" code for "constitution"?

Ooooh - here's part of the voice proposal - just for Queenslund where they do things diff'tuntly... be fascinating to see how this 'truth' pans out in reality....  Sacka down again ...

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queensland-s-path-to-treaty-truth-telling-will-begin-next-month-but-will-it-see-out-the-year/ar-BB1pqaXE?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=d77163eab4da44bca3b95193085fe8d4&ei=12&sc=shoreline

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 5^th, 2024 at 7:42pm:

Ooooh - here's part of the voice proposal - just for Queenslund where they do things diff'tuntly... be fascinating to see how this 'truth' pans out in reality....  Sacka down again ... https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queensland-s-path-to-treaty-truth-telling-will-begin-next-month-but-will-it-see-out-the-year/ar-BB1pqaXE?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=d77163eab4da44bca3b95193085fe8d4&ei=12&sc=shoreline

Path to Treaty isn't a constitutionally enshrined Indigenous representative body that would advise parliament on matters relating to Indigenous Australians.

Nice try though.

The truth-telling portion of the path to treaty is a good idea though.

So much of what was done to Indigenous and Torres Strait Islander people was never taught in schools.  We should learn from our history, not just pretend it didn't happen.

Stop pretending to be stupid.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 12:33pm:

Stop pretending to be stupid.

Stop being stupid.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 1:59pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 12:33pm: Stop pretending to be stupid. Stop being stupid.

No second prizes.... winner takes all here.... now - why have YOU forgotten what the voice was in reality?  Personal choice or years in the echo indoctrination chamber... the 'training session' ....

It's been laid out for you dozens of times way back to during the campaign for it - yet you still desperately cling to the one surviving piece of woodwork still floating - Albo's Big Lie that it was nothing more than a simple one-page request for ... wait for it  ... a special body that nobody else has, all paid for by the ordinary people, and that would give one small group inside running over every issue in the country as well as separate 'sovereignty' and control over land, water and resources..... not just 'a part in decisions about land, water and resources' - but CONTROL over those as if by some Divine Right.

Now stop pretending to be stupid... you won't wear me down that way..... I'm busy terrifying your kind by assembling all the data in one place....

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 2:58pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 1:59pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 12:33pm: Stop pretending to be stupid. Stop being stupid. No second prizes.... winner takes all here.... now - why have YOU forgotten what the voice was in reality?

Nope.

It was a proposed constitutional amendment to establish an advisory body for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to provide input on laws and policies affecting them.

That's what it was.

That issue has been put to bed, as has been the cover you enjoyed to spread your hatred towards Indigenous Australians under the guise of "debate" around the vote.

That's why you're trying to pretend everything in this thread is an attempt to use lawfare to implement the voice by stealth, so you can continue to pretend to be debating that issue.

I know it sounds like an odd thing to say, but you won, get over it.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 3:59pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 2:58pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 1:59pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 12:33pm: Stop pretending to be stupid. Stop being stupid. No second prizes.... winner takes all here.... now - why have YOU forgotten what the voice was in reality? Nope. It was a proposed constitutional amendment to establish an advisory body for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to provide input on laws and policies affecting them. That's what it was. That issue has been put to bed, as has been the cover you enjoyed to spread your hatred towards Indigenous Australians under the guise of "debate" around the vote. That's why you're trying to pretend everything in this thread is an attempt to use lawfare to implement the voice by stealth, so you can continue to pretend to be debating that issue. I know it sounds like an odd thing to say, but you won, get over it.

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.... and once in the door all of hell followed after it.... if it were so simple why then are the Aboriginal Aristos pursuing it so relentlessly behind people's backs and still making demands and putting people up to shady demands?

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 6:03pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 3:59pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 2:58pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 1:59pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 12:33pm: Stop pretending to be stupid. Stop being stupid. No second prizes.... winner takes all here.... now - why have YOU forgotten what the voice was in reality? Nope. It was a proposed constitutional amendment to establish an advisory body for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to provide input on laws and policies affecting them. That's what it was. That issue has been put to bed, as has been the cover you enjoyed to spread your hatred towards Indigenous Australians under the guise of "debate" around the vote. That's why you're trying to pretend everything in this thread is an attempt to use lawfare to implement the voice by stealth, so you can continue to pretend to be debating that issue. I know it sounds like an odd thing to say, but you won, get over it. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz .... and once in the door all of hell followed after it.... if it were so simple why then are the Aboriginal Aristos pursuing it so relentlessly behind people's backs and still making demands and putting people up to shady demands?

They're still pursuing a proposed constitutional amendment to establish an advisory body for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to provide input on laws and policies affecting them?

While ever your roving brain cells are super-glued to that lie, you will never even choose to see reality.

Don't worry, though - it will catch up with you....

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 11:11pm:

While ever your roving brain cells are super-glued to that lie, you will never even choose to see reality. Don't worry, though - it will catch up with you....

So you're suggesting the Voice, and what we voted in the referendum was different to a proposed constitutional amendment to establish an advisory body for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to provide input on laws and policies affecting them?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 4:05pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 11:11pm: While ever your roving brain cells are super-glued to that lie, you will never even choose to see reality. Don't worry, though - it will catch up with you.... So you're suggesting the Voice, and what we voted in the referendum was different to a proposed constitutional amendment to establish an advisory body for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to provide input on laws and policies affecting them?

Absolutely.  Look at the Lawfare happening now...did you read the full Uluru Statement and extract all the details of the demands?  That's why the voice failed....

You just sit there and repeat the same thing over and over .... autistic ...

But I've got more...... I'll wait for your posting of the demands in the full Uluru Statement -but you ain't got long to actually do some work.... you little racist you ..... demanding anything for 3.8% of the population because of their race.....  over the VOTE of 61% of the people.... you little NAZI racist you .... hater ... you hated Australia from the moment this silly idea saw light ....

Something wrong with your kind - but there is a boat waiting for you down the track....

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https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queensland-government-slammed-over-aboriginal-land-transfers/ar-BB1pDJoT?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=7f4caa301c5a4583966c8a307bf6bbb1&ei=6&sc=shoreline

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 9^th, 2024 at 8:14pm:

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Another swing and a miss.

Not about the voice.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 9^th, 2024 at 8:14pm:

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Well - here's a possible future for Queensland once it leaves the demented Rump of SEQ behind and secedes:-

Buggar - not very clear.  From top left, clockwise:-'

West Malaria, Malaria, Mosquito Land/Coast, North Melanoma, South Melanoma, Carcinoma, SEQUIN including the prick-shaped Toowoomba Corridor, O'Reilly Free State, Restcue, and finally Farcencue (Far Central and Northern Queensland)

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Equal opportunity all the way here:-

"How did it happen to be that a child living in regional Australia is only getting a routine surgical procedure done after a seven year wait because someone stepped in to pay for it in the private system?

How was nine-year-old Kadee effectively abandoned by the Queensland public health system and made to wait seven years – most of her life – for a simple tonsillectomy operation?

Pauline Hanson was in Rosslyn Bay, Central Queensland, this week to meet Kadee and her family and has stepped in by donating the cost of the young girl’s tonsil surgery in the private system."

Now - who is in charge here?  Who's responsible?  Some w⚓ in the public service, just like those w⚓s in national parks and such .... over paid, over-entitled,  over-protected and over Queenslanders ..... and other states as well....

Stand Up!!  Be Counted!!  Take back the farm, the national parks, the homes, and the rights.... throw the neo-Fascist Feudalists into the streets with the clothes on their backs... for every bad decision there is an equal and opposite reaction.... let it be so!!

If a public servant drives out home owners (Fraser Island) fling him from his high place.....   from the rivers to the seas, all crown land shall be free for all to use!!  ;)  ;)  ;)

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/locals-call-for-action-over-escalating-crime/vi-AA1p2jfS?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=c9535db6c03a4d36b9ac1fe7ddc1e37c&ei=10#details

Goond with the windy ...  Usual Suspect crime out of control again... how could that be?  Policy ... don't punish 'em - that might make 'em criminals...... administering law incorrectly as a matter of policy is lawfare, dorks .... come in, Skanga... bring some real hate in ... ya dopey houso sock piece of shot.....(gettin' me own back - loudmouths hate that) .... all government destruction of Law is lawfare against the generality ... learn this... your own governments are your own worst enemies at this time.....

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