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Message started by Bobby. on Mar 14th, 2024 at 1:21pm

Title: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 14th, 2024 at 1:21pm
Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/13/tech/tiktok-ban-us-bill-explained/index.html

They are nosey parkers and give your data to the Chinese communist party.
However - all Govts seem to do it.


Australia just banned TikTok on government devices.
Is it really worse than Google or Insta?


4 April 2023

All apps extract data, and under national security laws,
most countries can compel the operators of social media apps to hand it over.
Here's what makes TikTok so different.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/article/google-and-instagram-are-being-use-to-spy-on-citizens-too-is-tiktok-really-the-beast-to-tackle/jbfs0xfyy

"There's no reason to give your calendar to TikTok.
It doesn't need to know who you're meeting with."

TikTok also tracks what other apps you have running on your phone,
has access to your clipboard which could contain passwords,
logs your keystrokes,
and collects location data so precise,
it knows how high above sea level you are, Mr Kenyon said.

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 14th, 2024 at 1:23pm
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/13/tech/tiktok-ban-us-bill-explained/index.html


Addicted to TikTok?
Here’s what the House vote to effectively ban it could mean for you


March 13, 2024

Clare Duffy
By Clare Duffy, CNN
6 minute read
Updated 11:05 PM EDT, Wed March 13, 2024


US lawmakers have renewed efforts to crack down on TikTok over national security concerns related to its Chinese parent company ByteDance. The bill would prohibit TikTok from US app stores unless the social media platform is quickly spun off from ByteDance.

The bill, called the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, advanced out of the House Energy and Commerce Committee last week. And on Wednesday,
it was passed in the House with 352 affirmative votes
and just 65 representatives dissenting.
house of representatives


Related live-story House passes bill that could lead to US ban of TikTok

Many of the roughly 170 million Americans who use the app have raised concerns that banning TikTok could mean doing away with a platform that represents much more than a platform where young people can follow the latest updates about the Princess of Wales. It’s where they go to find connection, get entertained, seek information and earn a living. Some of those TikTokkers phoned their representatives in recent days to urge them to vote “no” on the bill, after the app alerted users to the potential ban.

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 14th, 2024 at 1:48pm
TikTok is one step closer to being banned.

The US House of Representatives has passed a bill that could
lead TikTok being banned in the US if its Chinese owner does not sell.
The legislation will now go to the Senate and it'll need Joe Biden's approval.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5p28rJGpMs

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 14th, 2024 at 4:17pm

the thing is -

our own Govts also force media companies to tell them
about everyone's private data. Ask Snowden.
It's not unique to the Chinese.

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Jasin on Mar 14th, 2024 at 5:17pm
USA just wants to create their own version of TikTok so they can do exactly what the Chinese do, but to their own people.

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 14th, 2024 at 5:41pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 5:17pm:
USA just wants to create their own version of TikTok so they can do
exactly what the Chinese do, but to their own people.



The Grubberments of the world were never going to allow privacy on the internet
or in any form of communications.

Even the encrypt part of Microsoft Outlook is easily broken by security agencies
and it always was by design.




Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Laugh till you cry on Mar 14th, 2024 at 5:46pm
TikTok has been heavily trafficked by people opposed to Israel's genocide against the Palestinians.

Jews don't like free speech by others, they contend free speech is only for Jews.

TikTok would not be banned if it was only Jews using it for propaganda.

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 14th, 2024 at 5:56pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 5:46pm:
TikTok has been heavily trafficked by people opposed to Israel's genocide against the Palestinians.

Jews don't like free speech by others, they contend free speech is only for Jews.

TikTok would not be banned if it was only Jews using it for propaganda.



So it's the Jews?

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Bias_2012 on Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:35pm
It reminds me of scammers grabbing your life savings

Everyone is giving their details away free of charge thinking all is OK




Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:39pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:35pm:
It reminds me of scammers grabbing your life savings

Everyone is giving their details away free of charge thinking all is OK



Just avoid loading apps on to your mobile phone -
most of them are dangerous.

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:46pm

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/tiktok-data-collection-faq-1.6772279

If I delete TikTok, it can't still collect my data, right?

Well, that depends on exactly what you are deleting.

If you delete your account and uninstall the app from your phone, TikTok can't collect your data going forward, says Katherine Isaac, an executive at cybersecurity firm Carbide.

But that doesn't mean all your data disappears right away. TikTok will still have access to the data it collected about you during the time you used the app, said Isaac.

"They do have in their statement that they delete data after a certain period of time, but it's not very clear what that period of time is."

TikTok's privacy policy also outlines a way you might be able to "access, delete, update, or rectify your data."

They say you can request information about your data, report a privacy violation or ask about a particular privacy issue by filling out this online form.

If you delete your account, but continue to keep the app on your device and interact with the platform, TikTok will continue to gather some data on you.

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Jasin on Mar 14th, 2024 at 9:21pm
It was always going to be a Spider's WEB and a Fishing NET.

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Bias_2012 on Mar 14th, 2024 at 9:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:46pm:
TikTok's privacy policy


Do people still believe there are privacy policies?

Crazy if they do





Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 14th, 2024 at 10:53pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 9:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:46pm:
TikTok's privacy policy


Do people still believe there are privacy policies?

Crazy if they do



There is no privacy.

All media are forced by the Govts to give backdoor access
to the Govt security organisations.
That is without a warrant too.

Back in 1995 when Bill Gates put out Win95 he was forced against his will
to secretly give the NSA the source code of Windows 95.
That has been the case ever since with every later version.
Bill Gates was angry about it but there was nothing he could do.
He was also prevented by law from telling the public about it.

The NSA is capable of going into any Windows computer in the world
and downloading any file they want without the victim ever knowing.
It doesn't matter what firewall you have or what you do to stop it.
If you're connected to the internet you're wide open to them.
The most likely method is that they spoof a fictitious Windows Update which
is actually a remote control hidden executable file.

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by aquascoot on Mar 15th, 2024 at 7:17am
western governments dont want the chinese spying on you and being able to manipulate you.

they want that power only for themselves  ;)

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by freediver on Mar 15th, 2024 at 7:19am
I'm more concerned about facebook spying on me.

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Jasin on Mar 15th, 2024 at 12:59pm
I think Yemen was the first nation to incorporate all platforms as spying upon their citizens.
If you thought Big Brother is watching you was bad via Orwell's version, Yemen leaves it for dead.

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Gnads on Mar 15th, 2024 at 1:01pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 5:56pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 5:46pm:
TikTok has been heavily trafficked by people opposed to Israel's genocide against the Palestinians.

Jews don't like free speech by others, they contend free speech is only for Jews.

TikTok would not be banned if it was only Jews using it for propaganda.



So it's the Jews?


If you believe that you should take a valium & go have a good lie down.

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 15th, 2024 at 1:04pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 15th, 2024 at 12:59pm:
I think Yemen was the first nation to incorporate all platforms as spying upon their citizens.
If you thought Big Brother is watching you was bad via Orwell's version, Yemen leaves it for dead.



see my Reply #13.

the spying was always there in every country.

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 15th, 2024 at 1:05pm

Gnads wrote on Mar 15th, 2024 at 1:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 5:56pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 5:46pm:
TikTok has been heavily trafficked by people opposed to Israel's genocide against the Palestinians.

Jews don't like free speech by others, they contend free speech is only for Jews.

TikTok would not be banned if it was only Jews using it for propaganda.



So it's the Jews?


If you believe that you should take a valium & go have a good lie down.



If someone slips on a banana peel in New York - it's the Jews -
it's always the Jews.   ;D

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 15th, 2024 at 8:34pm

freediver wrote on Mar 15th, 2024 at 7:19am:
I'm more concerned about facebook spying on me.



Facebook knows you better than you do.    ;D

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by tickleandrose on Mar 17th, 2024 at 11:38am
I think the problem is that Tiktok is more popular than Meta, X and Instagram.   And despite their efforts to catch up (e.g. Youtube reels), they were not able to compete with Tiktok on their algorithm - which is an industry secretion worth over 100 billion at the moment. 

And this is part of struggle between USA and China.   And at the moment, China is out competing USA with current USA laws.  And so.. this legislation /law is written to remove that competitiveness on the grounds of national security. 

There are people in USA have already formed companies to take over Tikitok at a discount.  E.g. the formal Blizzard CEO.   I guess, in this case... its a win win for US companies.   :)

Title: Re: Why is TikTok being banned in the USA now?
Post by Gnads on Mar 22nd, 2024 at 9:10am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:46pm:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/tiktok-data-collection-faq-1.6772279

If I delete TikTok, it can't still collect my data, right?

Well, that depends on exactly what you are deleting.

If you delete your account and uninstall the app from your phone, TikTok can't collect your data going forward, says Katherine Isaac, an executive at cybersecurity firm Carbide.

But that doesn't mean all your data disappears right away. TikTok will still have access to the data it collected about you during the time you used the app, said Isaac.

"They do have in their statement that they delete data after a certain period of time, but it's not very clear what that period of time is."

TikTok's privacy policy also outlines a way you might be able to "access, delete, update, or rectify your data."

They say you can request information about your data, report a privacy violation or ask about a particular privacy issue by filling out this online form.

If you delete your account, but continue to keep the app on your device and interact with the platform, TikTok will continue to gather some data on you.


Tik Tok maybe .... but what about your own govt collecting your data? That will still be happening will it not?

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