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Member Run Boards >> Environment >> Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1703190504 Message started by Bobby. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 6:28am |
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Title: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by Bobby. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 6:28am https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8466351/summer-solstice-australia-welcomes-longest-day-of-the-year/ Summer Solstice 2023: All you need to know about longest day of the year JC By Jessica Coates Updated December 21 2023 - 9:33am, first published 9:00am The sun will reach its highest point in the Australian sky as the country welcomes the summer solstice on December 22. An annual astronomic event, traditionally a time of celebration and summer festivals, it is used to track changes in seasons each year. Seasons and lengths of days and nights are decided according to Earth's tilt relative to the sun, which changes through the year. Days and nights across Australia will start getting shorter after the summer solstice. According to Weatherzone, this year's summer solstice will happen on Friday, December 22 at 4.50pm when the sun will be at its highest point in the sky. Australia will also experience it's shortest night of the year, marking the south pole's furthest tilt away from the sun. The longest day of the year will be slightly different in each state and territory. In the NT, the sun will rise at 6.19am and set at 7.11pm. In NSW, the sun will rise at 5.41am and set at 8.06pm and in Victoria it will rise at 5.55am and sunset will occur at 8.50pm. Melbourne 5:55 am Friday 22 December 2023 (AEDT) Sunrise in Melbourne VIC 8:42 pm Friday 22 December 2023 (AEDT) Sunset in Melbourne VIC In parts of Queensland, which doesn't observe daylight saving, the sun will rise before 5am. In the ACT, the sun will rise at 5.15am and sunset will occur at 8.47pm. The longest day of the year can fall anytime from December 21-23. |
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by Captain Nemo on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:13am
Nice long sunny days here in Melbourne so I am enjoying 24 hrs of self-sufficient electricity generation. 8-)
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by Bobby. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:17am
Good on you Captain Nemo -
maybe I should get some solar cells for my roof? |
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by Captain Nemo on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 9:14am
Yep, they are good fun.
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by A.I. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 9:35am
I hope this day doesn't drag out. :P
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by Carl D on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 9:36am
Good morning Bobby.
Thanks for the article. However, Jessica should have gotten someone who knows something about astronomy to proof read her article before it was 'published'. Quote:
Uh... no.. the sun will be at it's highest point in the sky at around about midday local time wherever you are... same as it is on every other day of the year. Except for at the north and south poles, of course. What she should have said was the sun will be at it's highest point in the sky at (approximately) midday today for the southern hemisphere. If one really wanted to be 'picky' this is actually only true for the Tropic of Capricorn (23.4 degrees South) where the sun will be directly overhead at (approximately) midday and everywhere south of it. As you head north between the Tropic of Capricorn and the equator the sun will have already been overhead at (approximately) midday sometime between September 21/22 (equinox) and today depending on how far south of the equator you are. And the sun will be directly overhead sometime between now and March 21/22 (equinox)... again, depending on your latitude. Quote:
Well.. Weatherzone is incorrect, as Amy said in the comment below the article the Solstice is at 2:27pm Eastern Time (which is 11:27am Perth time and I've confirmed it with the Stellarium astronomy program). Quote:
And lastly... Quote:
Uh... again... no Jessica. That happens at the southern hemisphere's winter solstice on June 21/22. See the attached images. solstices.jpg (61 KB | 8
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by Bobby. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 11:51am
Thanks Carl,
I think the journalist re-wrote those words and got it wrong. channel 9 says: https://www.9news.com.au/national/summer-solstice-2023-will-be-australias-longest-day/bf12ec97-3a1a-40b4-9100-31f6904a5f30 The summer solstice, which marks the longest day of the year in the Southern Hemisphere in terms of daylight hours, will take place today. The seasons and the length of our days and nights are determined by the Earth's tilt relative to the sun, which is constantly changing throughout the year. This year's summer solstice will occur at 4:50pm AEST, according to Weatherzone. This will be the moment the Earth's south pole reaches its furthest tilt away from the sun. The December solstice causes the longest day and shortest night of the year in Australia and the rest of the Southern Hemisphere. It usually occurs on December 22 every year, but can occur between December 21 and 23. |
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by Bobby. on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 4:08pm
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/12/21/christmas-traditions-pagan-roots/71943013007/
Perhaps Xmas day is really the day of the Winter solstice in the Northern hemisphere? Many Christmastime traditions have their origins in wintertime traditions more broadly, specifically winter solstice celebrations ancient Romans and other pre-Christian people celebrated to mark the changing of the seasons. Throughout history, the winter solstice − the shortest day and longest night of the year − has been commemorated with light-filled festivities, to remind us that the dreary, cold depths of winter don't last forever, said Brent Landau, a religion professor at the University of Texas at Austin who teaches a class called History of Christmas. "The human impulse to mark or commemorate the passing of the seasons in general and the winter solstice in particular is extremely ancient," Landau told USA TODAY. December 25th The timing of Christmas likely evolved from when pre-Christian Europeans celebrated the winter solstice in late December, said Landau. These days, Christmas roughly coincides with the winter solstice on Dec. 21. In ancient Rome, when people used a different version of the calendar, called the Julian calendar, the winter solstice fell on Dec. 25 - so the two holidays were on the same day at one point in history. "The connection between the birth of Jesus and the winter solstice in the ancient world was even more in your face and obvious," Landau said. "Like, it's the same day." Ancient Romans also celebrated their sun god, Sol Invictus, on Dec. 25, according to Landau, because the winter solstice marked the real sun's annual rebirth from fading during fall and winter to being in the sky longer during spring and summer. |
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by Dnarever on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 9:06pm
Today is 3 seconds shorter.
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by Bobby. on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 9:18pm https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/australia/melbourne?month=12 Melbourne 22/12/2023 sunrise 5:54am Sunset 8:42pm 23/12/2023 sunrise 5:55 am Sunset 8:42 pm That's 1 minute shorter today. |
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by Carl D on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 11:32pm
Actually, you will notice that even though the 'longest' day (maximum daylight time) of the year was yesterday for the southern hemisphere the sunsets will continue to get later for about a month but at the same time the sunrises will start to get later as the daylight hours gradually get shorter.
This is explained here: Why doesn't the latest sunset fall on the longest day of the year? Quote:
This article was written in 2010 and the times they use as an example are for Sydney and, as they say, the effect gets more noticeable the further away you get from the equator. Perth is about the same as Sydney since they are both at almost the same latitude, only about a degree or two difference. summer.jpg (162 KB | 6
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by A.I. on Dec 24th, 2023 at 12:08am Bobby. wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 9:18pm:
Wouldn't it have been great if Sunrise was 4:55am and Sunset at 7:42pm without the daylight saving crap? Basically DLS of Rise at 6am Set at nearly 9pm ::) So much for favouring Early Risers for a nice 5am start. While everyone's body clock is being screwed over for late Retail crap. :P |
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by AusGeoff on Dec 24th, 2023 at 5:17am The longest day... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KdNUlLzTvA |
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by Bobby. on Dec 24th, 2023 at 6:16am Jasin wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 12:08am:
4:55 am - then an hour of sunlight would be wasted by most people as they would be asleep in bed. Example - with Daylight Saving someone can go to work in the morning and still have time to mow their lawns after work. |
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by A.I. on Dec 24th, 2023 at 6:58am
Still plenty of time because of the longer days. To mow a lawn in the arvo. Don't need to do so much in Winter, when the grasses don't grow as much, with the shorter days - anyway.
People don't sleep in, when it comes to the body clock of nature but some spastic got a step ladder and went around like Santa Claus and changed everyone's clocks in a 'jilted' fashion. |
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by Bobby. on Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:05am Jasin wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 6:58am:
Well - that is the idea behind daylight saving - making the most of the sunlight. |
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by A.I. on Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:17am
Only in bias to the afternoon where people don't want to fall asleep until its dark around 9pm and can sleep in from the morning.
Basically screw the early morning workers and people who Rise with the Morning Sun. ...DLS, something some American in the 'far West' back there - made up for Australia to make it sleeping in an extra hour from rising, so that the Yanks can visit the Malls longer in the evening. ::) |
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Title: Re: Longest day is today 22nd Dec 2023 Post by A.I. on Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:18am
....Mental Health: When the Mind becomes disjointed from the Body.
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