Time magazine has named Taylor Swift as their Person of the
Year for 2023, bucking their tradition of recognising influential
political leaders and acknowledging the global superstar(?) as
a "source of light" in a "divided world."

The magazine's Person of the Year recognises an individual
"who most shaped the headlines over the previous 12 months,
for better or for worse".  (Which one is Swift?)

"In a divided world, where too many institutions are failing,
Taylor Swift found a way to transcend borders and be a source
of light," Time magazine editor-in-chief Sam Jacobs wrote.

(Presumably, Jacobs is a 14-year-old girl?)

—I seriously believe that this absurd decision marks the
   beginning of the end of the world as we know it.  Or at
   the least confirms the absolute global power of the corporatists
   and crass commercialism.

         >:(

Tough times make strong men
Strong men make good times
Good times make soft sloppy sentimental weeklings. (Taylor swift is their queen)

Soft sloppy sentimental weaklings will result in tough times

Mother nature has a way of autocorrecting when humanity gets out over its skis

Her music is absolute, immature, infantile rubbish.

I got Google to find her best song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvVBuG4IOW4


How can people let their brains be insulted by that?

I don't think we should be harsh on Taylor as an individual
In fact she is climbing the narrow road to success by pandering too the masses

The masses are addicted to sugary sweet visions of utopia
The masses are addicted to pleasuring themselves
The masses are addicted to getting out of any responsibility for the trajectory of their lives
The masses are sloppy soft marshmallowie spineless structureless blobs of entitlement

Taylor is merely providing the background music to these failures

She is cashing in on their failure
Not much different to McDonald's or KFC in reality and just as popular ;)

aquascoot wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 8:16am:

I don't think we should be harsh on Taylor as an individual In fact she is climbing the narrow road to success by pandering too the masses The masses are addicted to sugary sweet visions of utopia The masses are addicted to pleasuring themselves The masses are addicted to getting out of any responsibility for the trajectory of their lives The masses are sloppy soft marshmallowie spineless structureless blobs of entitlement Taylor is merely providing the background music to these failures She is cashing in on their failure Not much different to McDonald's or KFC in reality and just as popular ;)

She arrived at the time when music was turned into disposable garbage -
she has no classics that anyone will still listen to in 50 years.
She portrays the lack of talent nowadays compared to the 1960s and 70s.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 8:25am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 8:16am: I don't think we should be harsh on Taylor as an individual In fact she is climbing the narrow road to success by pandering too the masses The masses are addicted to sugary sweet visions of utopia The masses are addicted to pleasuring themselves The masses are addicted to getting out of any responsibility for the trajectory of their lives The masses are sloppy soft marshmallowie spineless structureless blobs of entitlement Taylor is merely providing the background music to these failures She is cashing in on their failure Not much different to McDonald's or KFC in reality and just as popular ;) She arrived at the time when music was turned into disposable garbage - she has no classics that anyone will still listen to in 50 years. She portrays the lack of talent nowadays compared to the 1960s and 70s.

She portrays the lack of talent in multiple streams of the mainstream masses

There is something fairly mediocre about a McDonald's cheeseburger
It's certainly is not as appealing as your grandmother's roast beef with gravy and Yorkshire pudding

There is something fairly mediocre about Taylor swift music
In general to be successful with the mainstream masses it does not hurt to be mediocre because the mainstream masses are mediocre

Garbage is the norm Bobby
Never forget it
Failure is the default
If you don't struggle against it with all your might
Failure is virtually guaranteed

The majority of people have a job they do not like
Are either not in a relationship or are in a relationship with someone they do not like
The majority are overweight or obese
And the majority have less than $1,000 of savings in the bank

If you want to be a failure just copy what the majority are doing ;D ;D

aquascoot wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 6:13am:

Tough times make strong men Strong men make good times Good times make soft sloppy sentimental weeklings. (Taylor swift is their queen) Soft sloppy sentimental weaklings will result in tough times Mother nature has a way of autocorrecting when humanity gets out over its skis

1950 - the American fighting man

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Man-of-the-Year-TIME-1951.jpg

2023 - the American ... er.... who is Mz Swift?


To what kind of people's souls does she resonate more significantly, speak more deeply than anyone else? What kind of people would honour and recognise her above all others as the expression of their life and times in 2023??

Who listens to Taylor Swift? Why?

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 2:45am:

Time magazine has named Taylor Swift as their Person of the Year for 2023, bucking their tradition of recognising influential political leaders and acknowledging the global superstar(?) as a "source of light" in a "divided world." The magazine's Person of the Year recognises an individual "who most shaped the headlines over the previous 12 months, for better or for worse".  (Which one is Swift?) "In a divided world, where too many institutions are failing, Taylor Swift found a way to transcend borders and be a source of light," Time magazine editor-in-chief Sam Jacobs wrote. (Presumably, Jacobs is a 14-year-old girl?) —I seriously believe that this absurd decision marks the    beginning of the end of the world as we know it.  Or at    the least confirms the absolute global power of the corporatists    and crass commercialism.          >:(

You know Hitler was person of the year too, yeah?

It's not about the best person of the year.

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 9:49am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 6:13am: Tough times make strong men Strong men make good times Good times make soft sloppy sentimental weeklings. (Taylor swift is their queen) Soft sloppy sentimental weaklings will result in tough times Mother nature has a way of autocorrecting when humanity gets out over its skis 1950 - the American fighting man

1938 - the German dictator

https://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2019712_2019694_2019588,00.html

The good ol' days, hey Frank?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 10:41am:

Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 9:49am: aquascoot wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 6:13am: Tough times make strong men Strong men make good times Good times make soft sloppy sentimental weeklings. (Taylor swift is their queen) Soft sloppy sentimental weaklings will result in tough times Mother nature has a way of autocorrecting when humanity gets out over its skis 1950 - the American fighting man 1938 - the German dictator https://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2019712_2019694_2019588,00.html The good ol' days, hey Frank?

Ah, now we know why Frank is so upset!

"Swift beat out a shortlist which included Russian President Vladimir Putin, King Charles III and Barbie."

ohh, another thread where Geoff complains about something that will never have any affect on him

you're not off pommie origin perchance, are you Geoff ::)

She's probably not the most appropriate "Person of the Year" but the US probably wants somebody who is a relatively wholesome role model.

I used to run to "Drops of Jupiter". At least it was in my playlist. I grew up with the Beatles, and some of their early lyrics were probably much worse.

The good thing about it was that the pace was spot on 4:15 per kilometer. My preference has been for early classical music, but you can't exactly run to that.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Now that she's back in the atmosphere
With drops of Jupiter in her hair
She acts like summer and walks like rain
Reminds me that there's a time to change, hey
Since the return of her stay on the moon
She listens like spring and she talks like June.....

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Versus:

She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

You think you've lost your love
Well, I saw her yesterday
It's you she's thinking of
And she told me what to say

She says she loves you
And you know that can't be bad
Yes, she loves you
And you know you should be glad

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 10:06am:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 2:45am: Time magazine has named Taylor Swift as their Person of the Year for 2023, bucking their tradition of recognising influential political leaders and acknowledging the global superstar(?) as a "source of light" in a "divided world." The magazine's Person of the Year recognises an individual "who most shaped the headlines over the previous 12 months, for better or for worse".  (Which one is Swift?) "In a divided world, where too many institutions are failing, Taylor Swift found a way to transcend borders and be a source of light," Time magazine editor-in-chief Sam Jacobs wrote. (Presumably, Jacobs is a 14-year-old girl?) —I seriously believe that this absurd decision marks the    beginning of the end of the world as we know it.  Or at    the least confirms the absolute global power of the corporatists    and crass commercialism.          >:( You know Hitler was person of the year too, yeah? It's not about the best person of the year.

He was far more momentous and significant than a singing, prancing popette.

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 2:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 10:06am: AusGeoff wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 2:45am: Time magazine has named Taylor Swift as their Person of the Year for 2023, bucking their tradition of recognising influential political leaders and acknowledging the global superstar(?) as a "source of light" in a "divided world." The magazine's Person of the Year recognises an individual "who most shaped the headlines over the previous 12 months, for better or for worse".  (Which one is Swift?) "In a divided world, where too many institutions are failing, Taylor Swift found a way to transcend borders and be a source of light," Time magazine editor-in-chief Sam Jacobs wrote. (Presumably, Jacobs is a 14-year-old girl?) —I seriously believe that this absurd decision marks the    beginning of the end of the world as we know it.  Or at    the least confirms the absolute global power of the corporatists    and crass commercialism.          >:( You know Hitler was person of the year too, yeah? It's not about the best person of the year. He was far more momentous and significant than a singing, prancing popette.

That's right folks: Frank likes Mr. Hitler better than Ms. Swift.

You heard it here first.

John_Taverner wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 1:48pm:

She's probably not the most appropriate "Person of the Year" but the US probably wants somebody who is a relatively wholesome role model.

No.

That's not what Person of the Year is about.

As explained before, Adolph Hitler was Time's Man of the Year back in 1938.

Moreover, it's not just a title for Americans - it can be anyone in the world, from any country.

"Swift beat out a shortlist which included Russian President Vladimir Putin, King Charles III and Barbie."

aquascoot wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 9:27am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 8:25am: aquascoot wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 8:16am: I don't think we should be harsh on Taylor as an individual In fact she is climbing the narrow road to success by pandering too the masses The masses are addicted to sugary sweet visions of utopia The masses are addicted to pleasuring themselves The masses are addicted to getting out of any responsibility for the trajectory of their lives The masses are sloppy soft marshmallowie spineless structureless blobs of entitlement Taylor is merely providing the background music to these failures She is cashing in on their failure Not much different to McDonald's or KFC in reality and just as popular ;) She arrived at the time when music was turned into disposable garbage - she has no classics that anyone will still listen to in 50 years. She portrays the lack of talent nowadays compared to the 1960s and 70s. She portrays the lack of talent in multiple streams of the mainstream masses There is something fairly mediocre about a McDonald's cheeseburger It's certainly is not as appealing as your grandmother's roast beef with gravy and Yorkshire pudding There is something fairly mediocre about Taylor swift music In general to be successful with the mainstream masses it does not hurt to be mediocre because the mainstream masses are mediocre Garbage is the norm Bobby Never forget it Failure is the default If you don't struggle against it with all your might Failure is virtually guaranteed The majority of people have a job they do not like Are either not in a relationship or are in a relationship with someone they do not like The majority are overweight or obese And the majority have less than $1,000 of savings in the bank If you want to be a failure just copy what the majority are doing ;D ;D

hear hear sir Aqua,
you have a way of getting to the crux of the matter.
Notice that her audience consists mostly of young school girls?
What does that tell you about our education system?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 2:58pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 2:13pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 10:06am: AusGeoff wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 2:45am: Time magazine has named Taylor Swift as their Person of the Year for 2023, bucking their tradition of recognising influential political leaders and acknowledging the global superstar(?) as a "source of light" in a "divided world." The magazine's Person of the Year recognises an individual "who most shaped the headlines over the previous 12 months, for better or for worse".  (Which one is Swift?) "In a divided world, where too many institutions are failing, Taylor Swift found a way to transcend borders and be a source of light," Time magazine editor-in-chief Sam Jacobs wrote. (Presumably, Jacobs is a 14-year-old girl?) —I seriously believe that this absurd decision marks the    beginning of the end of the world as we know it.  Or at    the least confirms the absolute global power of the corporatists    and crass commercialism.          >:( You know Hitler was person of the year too, yeah? It's not about the best person of the year. He was far more momentous and significant than a singing, prancing popette. That's right folks: Frank likes Mr. Hitler better than Ms. Swift. You heard it here first.

Gawd, you are a grotesque, creepy turd, turd.

EVERYONE on the list of Time Person of the Year was more momentous and significant (the words do not mean preferable or more likable, repulsive shitehead) than a singing, prattling, pranzing poppette.

A brilliant marketing strategy by Time Magazine.

If they had chosen Frank's hero - Putin - they would have sold a few hundred copies of the magazine to crusty old farts like him.

But by choosing TayTay, they're gonna sell millions and millions of copies to a whole new audience of teenage girls.

I don't like her music by the way - it's puerile crap, mostly written using variations of the I, V, vi, IV chord progression.

However, it seems like she's got a good head on her shoulders and, by getting millions of young people to register to vote, she's gonna have a huge influence on next year's presidential election.

And hey, she makes a lot of people happy so good luck to her.



(Seeing Frank triggered is just a bonus)

WTF is Taylor Swift?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 7:05pm:

A brilliant marketing strategy by Time Magazine. If they had chosen Frank's hero - Putin - they would have sold a few hundred copies of the magazine to crusty old farts like him. But by choosing TayTay, they're gonna sell millions and millions of copies to a whole new audience of teenage girls. I don't like her music by the way - it's puerile crap, mostly written using variations of the I, V, vi, IV chord progression. However, it seems like she's got a good head on her shoulders and, by getting millions of young people to register to vote, she's gonna have a huge influence on next year's presidential election. And hey, she makes a lot of people happy so good luck to her. (Seeing Frank triggered is just a bonus)

What about the drumming - did you try to listen to the clip I posted?

A computer could do more interesting drumming -
maybe it was a computer.   ;D

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 7:24am:

Her music is absolute, immature, infantile rubbish. I got Google to find her best song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvVBuG4IOW4 How can people let their brains be insulted by that?

I liked her teenage more country stuff, she was a very impressive teen. This is also good from the CMA awards a few years back playing with some of the greats. (I agree shake it off was crappy).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1BpLAefEt0

Taylor doing this Vance Joy song is probably what gave him his break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wyYucOEqV8

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 7:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 7:05pm: A brilliant marketing strategy by Time Magazine. If they had chosen Frank's hero - Putin - they would have sold a few hundred copies of the magazine to crusty old farts like him. But by choosing TayTay, they're gonna sell millions and millions of copies to a whole new audience of teenage girls. I don't like her music by the way - it's puerile crap, mostly written using variations of the I, V, vi, IV chord progression. However, it seems like she's got a good head on her shoulders and, by getting millions of young people to register to vote, she's gonna have a huge influence on next year's presidential election. And hey, she makes a lot of people happy so good luck to her. (Seeing Frank triggered is just a bonus) What about the drumming - did you try to listen to the clip I posted?

Nope - I don't want my YouTube algorithm stuffed up.

If I had to guess though, I'd say it was a programmed drum machine.

Taylor Swift Victoria secrets Fashion Show


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT_Ph0fRBCk

Time Magazine.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Check out a proper female performer who really knows about music:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQuDaIbpA1g

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 7:18pm:

Check out a proper female performer who really knows about music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQuDaIbpA1g

Dianna is great but also 30 years older doing a different style.

Taylor had a music contract at 14, Her self titled album released at about 17 went to number 1 and was nominated for album of the year in 2007 She wrote 11 of the songs and collaborated on 3 others.

Her second album Fearless : At the 52nd Annual Grammy Awards in February 2010, won Album of the Year and Best Country Album. She was 19.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 7:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 7:18pm: Check out a proper female performer who really knows about music: Dianna is great but also 30 years older doing a different style.

She is playing standards at her Paris concert by
some of most famous song writers and composers.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 7:18pm:

Check out a proper female performer who really knows about music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQuDaIbpA1g

You mentioned Drummers before - Jeff Hamilton is it.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 8:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 7:18pm: Check out a proper female performer who really knows about music: You mentioned Drummers before - Jeff Hamilton is it.

yeah -

check out the entire concert in Paris and compare her to Taylor Swift:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70b5-L13B6k


1  I Love Being Here With You 
2  Let's Fall In Love (5:34)
3  The Look Of Love (9:59)
4  Maybe You'll Be There (14:56)
5  Deed I Do (20:40)
6  Devil May Care (26:00)
7  (I've Got You) Under My Skin (32:52)
8  East Of The Sun (40:20)
9  I Get Along (47:50)
10  Pick Yourself Up (52:06)
11  S'Wonderful (55:28)
12  Love Letters (1:00:02)
13  I Don't Know Enough About You (1:04:50)
14  Do It Again (1:15:44)

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 8:00pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 7:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 7:18pm: Check out a proper female performer who really knows about music: Dianna is great but also 30 years older doing a different style. She is playing standards at her Paris concert by some of most famous song writers and composers.

Been listening to her for years - She is unbelievable. one of my favourites. Her Jazz piano is something.

I like this one too with Natalie Cole.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3TbSSI3hy8

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 8:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 8:00pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 7:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 7:18pm: Check out a proper female performer who really knows about music: Dianna is great but also 30 years older doing a different style. She is playing standards at her Paris concert by some of most famous song writers and composers. Been listening to her for years - She is unbelievable. one of my favourites. Her Jazz piano is something. I like this one too with Natalie Cole.

That was great.   :)

Another one of Burt and Hal's

I thought you got it from the live Rio concert.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaT6Y7d1kVc

One of my other favourites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usH4nVyy9A4

Taylor is a well deserved winner.

Winner of what?

The most over-rated and out-dated Magazine of Media suck-ups.  ;D

Let's hear from her husband:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y71iDvCYXA

Diana's, not Taylor's   :)

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 8:38pm:

Let's hear from her husband: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y71iDvCYXA Diana's, not Taylor's   :)

X Husband. Still married. I was sure they seperated but wrong it seems.

Like Elvis but this not one of my favourite songs.

Joni was 17 when she wrote this around 1967 - now 55 years later. Hard to believe a 17 year old could do this.

Not bad from a Lady who following a brain aneurysm couldn't walk or talk in 2015.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxiluPSmAF8

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 9:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 8:38pm: Let's hear from her husband: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y71iDvCYXA Diana's, not Taylor's   :) X Husband. Still married. I was sure they seperated but wrong it seems. Like Elvis but this not one of my favourite songs.

I love Elvis (Costello is the real Elvis), and I personally think that's his best song.

As a teenager, he (and that song) changed my view on music.

He set me off in a new direction.

Nothing wrong with this, either:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hBWBVVFA4c

dear Greggy,
I saw Elvis Costello live in Melbourne - I think it was 1981.

It was a top concert - worth every penny.

Love the roses and Alison. Maybe because I knew an Alison and learned to play it. (not too well).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_kMPMgVTj8

Elvis, Dianna and Willie.  Met willie once at a golf resort on the gold coast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY8KP2BQF2A

Taylor Swift  Tim Mcgraw & Keith Urban


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-e_05I0zeY

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 7:05pm:

A brilliant marketing strategy by Time Magazine. If they had chosen Frank's hero - Putin - they would have sold a few hundred copies of the magazine to crusty old farts like him. But by choosing TayTay, they're gonna sell millions and millions of copies to a whole new audience of teenage girls. I don't like her music by the way - it's puerile crap, mostly written using variations of the I, V, vi, IV chord progression. However, it seems like she's got a good head on her shoulders and, by getting millions of young people to register to vote, she's gonna have a huge influence on next year's presidential election. And hey, she makes a lot of people happy so good luck to her. (Seeing Frank triggered is just a bonus)

So Time magazine is applauded for being deceptive, manipulative and dishonest - being a slimey creepy turd - by a deceptive, manipulative and dishonest slimey creepy turd.

Quelle surprise!

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 10:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 7:05pm: A brilliant marketing strategy by Time Magazine. If they had chosen Frank's hero - Putin - they would have sold a few hundred copies of the magazine to crusty old farts like him. But by choosing TayTay, they're gonna sell millions and millions of copies to a whole new audience of teenage girls. I don't like her music by the way - it's puerile crap, mostly written using variations of the I, V, vi, IV chord progression. However, it seems like she's got a good head on her shoulders and, by getting millions of young people to register to vote, she's gonna have a huge influence on next year's presidential election. And hey, she makes a lot of people happy so good luck to her. (Seeing Frank triggered is just a bonus) So Time magazine is applauded for being deceptive, manipulative and dishonest - being a slimey creepy turd - by a deceptive, manipulative and dishonest slimey creepy turd. Quelle surprise!

So an adult with little talent brainwashes gullible schoolgirls to like her
and that warrants a reward from Time magazine?

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 9:35pm:

Love the roses and Alison. Maybe because I knew an Alison and learned to play it. (not too well). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_kMPMgVTj8

Alan Joyce with a guitar. How ridiculous.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 9:35pm:

Love the roses and Alison. Maybe because I knew an Alison and learned to play it. (not too well). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_kMPMgVTj8

Alan Joyce with a guitar. How ridiculous.

Taylor Swift for President!!!

;D ;D ;D

Jasin wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 11:01pm:

Taylor Swift for President!!! ;D ;D ;D

Like Sarah Palin  from Alaska -
she knew about Russia - you could see it across the water.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/154/234/417/original/6ef4edfdfd659d08.jpg

John Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 1:24pm:

ohh, another thread where Geoff complains about something that will never have any affect on him you're not off pommie origin perchance, are you Geoff

Well, of course this doesn't personally affect me at all John.

But would you agree that it's yet another indicator that
our population—particularly the younger, future, scientists,
teachers, engineers, doctors, politicians etc—are being
dumbed down by this sort of media-led drivel?

In purely realistic terms, Taylor Swift has never offered
the world anything of credible value—nothing that's
enhanced society overall, saved lives, stopped wars, cured
cancer, improved global air quality or water supplies etc.

And yes, I'm aware that she supports several charitable
causes, but then she has an estimated worth of US$1.1 billion.
She can afford to simply as virtue signalling, with no actual
impact on her lifestyle at all.  But it makes her look good in
the eyes of her moronic fan base—who call themselves "Swifties".   
   Puhleeze!

According to recent estimates published on CNN, Taylor's Eras
tour could gross $2.2 billion in just North American ticket sales
alone, which would make it the highest grossing tour in history.

She could take home an estimated US$500 million from this
single tour.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 11:13pm:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/154/234/417/original/6ef4edfdfd659d08.jpg

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Taylor's pulled a 'swifty' on Time Magazine by the look of it and Biden's pushing a 'sniffy' on her. ;D

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 3:51am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 1:24pm: ohh, another thread where Geoff complains about something that will never have any affect on him you're not off pommie origin perchance, are you Geoff Well, of course this doesn't personally affect me at all John. But would you agree that it's yet another indicator that our population—particularly the younger, future, scientists, teachers, engineers, doctors, politicians etc—are being dumbed down by this sort of media-led drivel? In purely realistic terms, Taylor Swift has never offered the world anything of credible value—nothing that's enhanced society overall, saved lives, stopped wars, cured cancer, improved global air quality or water supplies etc.

Has Adolph Hitler?

Hitler was Time's Man of the Year in 1938.

FFS, how many times do you people need to be told - Person of the Year is not an award for the BEST person of the year.

::)

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 10:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 7:05pm: A brilliant marketing strategy by Time Magazine. If they had chosen Frank's hero - Putin - they would have sold a few hundred copies of the magazine to crusty old farts like him. But by choosing TayTay, they're gonna sell millions and millions of copies to a whole new audience of teenage girls. I don't like her music by the way - it's puerile crap, mostly written using variations of the I, V, vi, IV chord progression. However, it seems like she's got a good head on her shoulders and, by getting millions of young people to register to vote, she's gonna have a huge influence on next year's presidential election. And hey, she makes a lot of people happy so good luck to her. (Seeing Frank triggered is just a bonus) So Time magazine is applauded for being deceptive, manipulative and dishonest - ...

How are they being dishonest?

Time Magazine has indeed been dishonest Frank.
Good point.

Time Magazine is as honest as a Member promising to leave this Forum forever if Trump became President and Shorten failed to become Prime Minister.  ;)

Jasin wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 4:07am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 11:13pm: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/154/234/417/original/6ef4edfdfd659d08.jpg ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Taylor's pulled a 'swifty' on Time Magazine by the look of it and Biden's pushing a 'sniffy' on her. ;D

I thought you'd like that one.    ;D

Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE!

Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious!

How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails?

mothra wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 7:18am:

Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails?

So an adult with little talent brainwashes gullible little schoolgirls to like her

and that warrants a reward from Time magazine?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 7:36am:

mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? So an adult with little talent brainwashes gullible little schoolgirls to like her and that warrants a reward from Time magazine?

What is it with you that you need to find something sinister in everything?

mothra wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:36am: mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? So an adult with little talent brainwashes gullible little schoolgirls to like her and that warrants a reward from Time magazine? What is it with you that you need to find something sinister in everything?

In fine form this morning, aren't we?  Recovered a little from the thrashing over the voice - or content to sit back and just watch your 'government' steal from the people the power of their vote and their right to say NO in a referendum ?

You Fascists are all like that... or perhaps you'd rather the NSW Police do a Kristallnacht and stand back and watch while some moronic firebrand out Bankistan Province way rants about destroying the Jews?

Easy to see where your kind are coming from...........

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mothra wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 7:18am:

Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails?

Better? Happy, Jen?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAq4vnJWAAATqcG?.jpg

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 8:41am:

mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? Better? Happy, Jen? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAq4vnJWAAATqcG?.jpg

As meaningless to me as Taylor Swift's appointment.

You on the other hand, massively triggered.

mothra wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 8:43am:

Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:41am: mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? Better? Happy, Jen? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAq4vnJWAAATqcG?.jpg As meaningless to me as Taylor Swift's appointment. You on the other hand, massively triggered.

 

I see - that's why you felt the need to comment at all...   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 3:51am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 1:24pm: ohh, another thread where Geoff complains about something that will never have any affect on him you're not off pommie origin perchance, are you Geoff Well, of course this doesn't personally affect me at all John. But would you agree that it's yet another indicator that our population—particularly the younger, future, scientists, teachers, engineers, doctors, politicians etc—are being dumbed down by this sort of media-led drivel? In purely realistic terms, Taylor Swift has never offered the world anything of credible value—nothing that's enhanced society overall, saved lives, stopped wars, cured cancer, improved global air quality or water supplies etc. And yes, I'm aware that she supports several charitable causes, but then she has an estimated worth of US$1.1 billion. She can afford to simply as virtue signalling, with no actual impact on her lifestyle at all.  But it makes her look good in the eyes of her moronic fan base—who call themselves "Swifties".       Puhleeze! According to recent estimates published on CNN, Taylor's Eras tour could gross $2.2 billion in just North American ticket sales alone, which would make it the highest grossing tour in history. She could take home an estimated US$500 million from this single tour.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAx4QNKWQAAnnJA?.jpg

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 8:46am:

mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:43am: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:41am: mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? Better? Happy, Jen? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAq4vnJWAAATqcG?.jpg As meaningless to me as Taylor Swift's appointment. You on the other hand, massively triggered.   I see - that's why you felt the need to comment at all...   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)

No. That's not why. I saw and i mocked.

Wasn't it obvious?

Probably not to you, who am i kidding.

So you never once mocked the elevation of St Trump to the MOTY or anything?

But some sheila singer is a top dog these days?  In an age of zero heroes - all we have is zeroes.... and their supporters .... the age of celebrity .... even a rape accuser can be a celebrity these days....

Ja-Sin - what was it Trump got right again?  Just your view of course....

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 8:46am:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 3:51am: John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 1:24pm: ohh, another thread where Geoff complains about something that will never have any affect on him you're not off pommie origin perchance, are you Geoff Well, of course this doesn't personally affect me at all John. But would you agree that it's yet another indicator that our population—particularly the younger, future, scientists, teachers, engineers, doctors, politicians etc—are being dumbed down by this sort of media-led drivel? In purely realistic terms, Taylor Swift has never offered the world anything of credible value—nothing that's enhanced society overall, saved lives, stopped wars, cured cancer, improved global air quality or water supplies etc. And yes, I'm aware that she supports several charitable causes, but then she has an estimated worth of US$1.1 billion. She can afford to simply as virtue signalling, with no actual impact on her lifestyle at all.  But it makes her look good in the eyes of her moronic fan base—who call themselves "Swifties".       Puhleeze! According to recent estimates published on CNN, Taylor's Eras tour could gross $2.2 billion in just North American ticket sales alone, which would make it the highest grossing tour in history. She could take home an estimated US$500 million from this single tour. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAx4QNKWQAAnnJA?.jpg

Fair enough............

mothra wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 8:43am:

Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:41am: mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? Better? Happy, Jen? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAq4vnJWAAATqcG?.jpg As meaningless to me as Taylor Swift's appointment. You on the other hand, massively triggered.

Silly bint: you don't care because it's meaningless but you do comment.

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 8:55am:

mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:43am: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:41am: mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? Better? Happy, Jen? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAq4vnJWAAATqcG?.jpg As meaningless to me as Taylor Swift's appointment. You on the other hand, massively triggered. Silly bint: you don't care because it's meaningless but you do comment.

Only to mock you in your hysteria, fruitbat.

You're like the gift that keeps giving.

mothra wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:55am: mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:43am: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:41am: mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? Better? Happy, Jen? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAq4vnJWAAATqcG?.jpg As meaningless to me as Taylor Swift's appointment. You on the other hand, massively triggered. Silly bint: you don't care because it's meaningless but you do comment. Only to mock you in your hysteria, fruitbat. You're like the gift that keeps giving.

Awrrrr.. isn't that cute!  You've heard that somewhere.... many times ...

Change of shift is it down at Troll HQ?  Or you've sent one up for a shot at the title and he came back battered and torn, so you figure you'll take over and try again?  They're certainly a weird lot up that way...

Damn - where did that mothra focker go?  Bit of the old sniping and back-stabbing - in comes the retaliation.... runs away crying about racism and such, throwing up a smoke screen ... that is one tough cookie....

mothra wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:55am: mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:43am: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:41am: mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? Better? Happy, Jen? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAq4vnJWAAATqcG?.jpg As meaningless to me as Taylor Swift's appointment. You on the other hand, massively triggered. Silly bint: you don't care because it's meaningless but you do comment. Only to mock you in your hysteria, fruitbat. You're like the gift that keeps giving.

  ;D
Because that gives you something meaningful, silly bint??
Anyway, you started by saying she rates and you can't mock, you are too witless for that. You can only snarl.

mothra wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 7:18am:

Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails?

Lol   ;D

It's hilarious seeing these old dust-farters get triggered so easily.

They were hoping it would be Putin.

Oh well, might as well trigger them some more:

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/47F4/production/_121302481_micgreta.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 11:47am:

mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? Lol   ;D It's hilarious seeing these old dust-farters get triggered so easily. They were hoping it would be Putin. Oh well, might as well trigger them some more: https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/47F4/production/_121302481_micgreta.jpg

Tick Tock ....  old dust farting is awaiting you.... rubber sheet..... The Awakening of true knowledge and understanding.... endless doctor's visits for one thing after another.... for you and mothra and Smith it will be glorious to be watching... see you hoist on your own petard.....  tick tock.... tick tock ..... of course - you and The Meth Queen and Smith have to survive your first bouts with various things.... hearts... cancers ... strokes ..... dementia (bit late for at least two there - choose your two carefully) .....  won't be long now........ keep us informed .......  Tick Tock... TICK TOCK....

... and to think I refused just yesterday to include you in criticism of turds online .... lift your game, Peccary ...... before the game eats you... it's a lion park out there and the lions are still in their natural state ..... you lot are hilarious.....

;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Das ist eine Wankel ....

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Let's trigger 'em a bit more....

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greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 4:23am:

Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 10:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 7:05pm: A brilliant marketing strategy by Time Magazine. If they had chosen Frank's hero - Putin - they would have sold a few hundred copies of the magazine to crusty old farts like him. But by choosing TayTay, they're gonna sell millions and millions of copies to a whole new audience of teenage girls. I don't like her music by the way - it's puerile crap, mostly written using variations of the I, V, vi, IV chord progression. However, it seems like she's got a good head on her shoulders and, by getting millions of young people to register to vote, she's gonna have a huge influence on next year's presidential election. And hey, she makes a lot of people happy so good luck to her. (Seeing Frank triggered is just a bonus) So Time magazine is applauded for being deceptive, manipulative and dishonest - ... How are they being dishonest?

Frank: how are they being "deceptive, manipulative and dishonest"?

The "Person of the Year" is not always a person. It can be a person, group, idea, or thing that "for better or for worse...has done the most to influence the events of the year".

This means that being chosen is not an award, like being chosen as the "best person of the year." The Person of the Year may be an enemy of the United States, like Adolf Hitler (1938) or Joseph Stalin (1939 and 1942).

Every year, Time chooses the person who they think has had the most effect on the things that have happened in that year (whether those things were good or bad).

The list of this year’s final nominees included:

Hollywood Strikers
Xi Jinping
Taylor Swift – *WINNER*
Sam Altman
Trump Prosecutors
Barbie
Vladimir Putin
King Charles III
Jerome Powell

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 3:51am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 1:24pm: ohh, another thread where Geoff complains about something that will never have any affect on him you're not off pommie origin perchance, are you Geoff Well, of course this doesn't personally affect me at all John. But would you agree that it's yet another indicator that our population—particularly the younger, future, scientists, teachers, engineers, doctors, politicians etc—are being dumbed down by this sort of media-led drivel? In purely realistic terms, Taylor Swift has never offered the world anything of credible value—nothing that's enhanced society overall, saved lives, stopped wars, cured cancer, improved global air quality or water supplies etc. And yes, I'm aware that she supports several charitable causes, but then she has an estimated worth of US$1.1 billion. She can afford to simply as virtue signalling, with no actual impact on her lifestyle at all.  But it makes her look good in the eyes of her moronic fan base—who call themselves "Swifties".       Puhleeze! According to recent estimates published on CNN, Taylor's Eras tour could gross $2.2 billion in just North American ticket sales alone, which would make it the highest grossing tour in history. She could take home an estimated US$500 million from this single tour.

Is that your beef? That's she's richer and more applauded than you?  :D :D :D

and no, I don't agree that this another indicator of our population dumbing down.  There are billions of her fans who would argue that she has enhanced their lives.
You don't have to like who times chooses, but you are fooling yourself if you think she's had zero impact on peoples lives.

mothra wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 7:18am:

Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails?

It's so absurd it's beyond ridiculous. :D :D

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 8:41am:

mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? Better? Happy, Jen? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAq4vnJWAAATqcG?.jpg

Is that the fake cover Trump made up? :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 2:26pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? It's so absurd it's beyond ridiculous. :D :D

Tick, tock.... tick, tock..... imagine methra having the knowledge to realise was a 'lady garden ' is.... but what a dopey reference to getting sand in it.... past the sublime and into the ridiculous....

Tick, tock .... tick, tock...... which of the three amigos will be first to drop out of the tree.... tick tock..... meth will probably do the same as to her blue hair - dye by her own hand...  Smith will die in a bar fight ...... peccary will dodder......  tick tock...... then there are the evils waiting as the fifties approach..... and hit ..... many do not get through those......  tick tock.... tick tock ....

.... and now a turd from our sponsor........... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqqTHEDXMAEFayU.jpg .....

John Smith wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 2:25pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 3:51am: John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 1:24pm: ohh, another thread where Geoff complains about something that will never have any affect on him you're not off pommie origin perchance, are you Geoff Well, of course this doesn't personally affect me at all John. But would you agree that it's yet another indicator that our population—particularly the younger, future, scientists, teachers, engineers, doctors, politicians etc—are being dumbed down by this sort of media-led drivel? In purely realistic terms, Taylor Swift has never offered the world anything of credible value—nothing that's enhanced society overall, saved lives, stopped wars, cured cancer, improved global air quality or water supplies etc. And yes, I'm aware that she supports several charitable causes, but then she has an estimated worth of US$1.1 billion. She can afford to simply as virtue signalling, with no actual impact on her lifestyle at all.  But it makes her look good in the eyes of her moronic fan base—who call themselves "Swifties".       Puhleeze! According to recent estimates published on CNN, Taylor's Eras tour could gross $2.2 billion in just North American ticket sales alone, which would make it the highest grossing tour in history. She could take home an estimated US$500 million from this single tour. Is that your beef? That's she's richer and more applauded than you?  :D :D :D and no, I don't agree that this another indicator of our population dumbing down.  There are billions of her fans who would argue that she has enhanced their lives. You don't have to like who times chooses, but you are fooling yourself if you think she's had zero impact on peoples lives.

Check out this example:

More than 35,000 people registered to vote after Swift posted on social media Tuesday for National Voter Registration Day, encouraging her fans to register themselves to vote.

Swift posted an Instagram Story urging her 272 million followers to register to vote on Vote.org, a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization offering voter registration services. According to Vote.org, Swift and the platform have been working together for several years.

Vote.org has a goal of registering 8 million voters before the November 2024 election, according to a release, and thanks in part to Swift's posts, the nonprofit is making progress toward that goal. After Swift's post, Vote.org was averaging 13,000 users every 30 minutes, Nick Morrow, Vote.org's communications director posted on X, formerly Twitter.

And just check out how many followers she has.

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 8:41am:

mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? Better? Happy, Jen? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAq4vnJWAAATqcG?.jpg

Greta beat defendant Donny.

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 10:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 9:35pm: Love the roses and Alison. Maybe because I knew an Alison and learned to play it. (not too well). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_kMPMgVTj8 Alan Joyce with a guitar. How ridiculous.

Disappointing Frank below par even for you.

mothra wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 7:18am:

Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails?

The Spice Girls were the artistes du jour in 1996. They rated!   

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 3:37pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? The Spice Girls were the artistes du jour in 1996. They rated!

Not by me but the world youth of that time certainly .

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 2:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 2:26pm: mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? It's so absurd it's beyond ridiculous. :D :D Tick, tock.... tick, tock..... imagine methra having the knowledge to realise was a 'lady garden ' is.... but what a dopey reference to getting sand in it.... past the sublime and into the ridiculous.... Tick, tock .... tick, tock...... which of the three amigos will be first to drop out of the tree.... tick tock..... meth will probably do the same as to her blue hair - dye by her own hand...  Smith will die in a bar fight ...... peccary will dodder......  tick tock...... then there are the evils waiting as the fifties approach..... and hit ..... many do not get through those......  tick tock.... tick tock .... .... and now a turd from our sponsor........... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqqTHEDXMAEFayU.jpg .....

So the animated Donald will likely be played by a purple Hippo with a 30 handicap.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 4:02pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 2:38pm: John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 2:26pm: mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? It's so absurd it's beyond ridiculous. :D :D Tick, tock.... tick, tock..... imagine methra having the knowledge to realise was a 'lady garden ' is.... but what a dopey reference to getting sand in it.... past the sublime and into the ridiculous.... Tick, tock .... tick, tock...... which of the three amigos will be first to drop out of the tree.... tick tock..... meth will probably do the same as to her blue hair - dye by her own hand...  Smith will die in a bar fight ...... peccary will dodder......  tick tock...... then there are the evils waiting as the fifties approach..... and hit ..... many do not get through those......  tick tock.... tick tock .... .... and now a turd from our sponsor........... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqqTHEDXMAEFayU.jpg ..... So the animated Donald will likely be played by a purple Hippo with a 30 handicap.

Something like that ...

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 2:45pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 2:25pm: AusGeoff wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 3:51am: John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 1:24pm: ohh, another thread where Geoff complains about something that will never have any affect on him you're not off pommie origin perchance, are you Geoff Well, of course this doesn't personally affect me at all John. But would you agree that it's yet another indicator that our population—particularly the younger, future, scientists, teachers, engineers, doctors, politicians etc—are being dumbed down by this sort of media-led drivel? In purely realistic terms, Taylor Swift has never offered the world anything of credible value—nothing that's enhanced society overall, saved lives, stopped wars, cured cancer, improved global air quality or water supplies etc. And yes, I'm aware that she supports several charitable causes, but then she has an estimated worth of US$1.1 billion. She can afford to simply as virtue signalling, with no actual impact on her lifestyle at all.  But it makes her look good in the eyes of her moronic fan base—who call themselves "Swifties".       Puhleeze! According to recent estimates published on CNN, Taylor's Eras tour could gross $2.2 billion in just North American ticket sales alone, which would make it the highest grossing tour in history. She could take home an estimated US$500 million from this single tour. Is that your beef? That's she's richer and more applauded than you?  :D :D :D and no, I don't agree that this another indicator of our population dumbing down.  There are billions of her fans who would argue that she has enhanced their lives. You don't have to like who times chooses, but you are fooling yourself if you think she's had zero impact on peoples lives. Check out this example: More than 35,000 people registered to vote after Swift posted on social media Tuesday for National Voter Registration Day, encouraging her fans to register themselves to vote. Swift posted an Instagram Story urging her 272 million followers to register to vote on Vote.org, a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization offering voter registration services. According to Vote.org, Swift and the platform have been working together for several years. Vote.org has a goal of registering 8 million voters before the November 2024 election, according to a release, and thanks in part to Swift's posts, the nonprofit is making progress toward that goal. After Swift's post, Vote.org was averaging 13,000 users every 30 minutes, Nick Morrow, Vote.org's communications director posted on X, formerly Twitter. And just check out how many followers she has.

Stacked vote, eh?  Same thing as The Tavern whining and crying.... Taylor Swift - vote early, vote often.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 3:58pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 3:37pm: mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? The Spice Girls were the artistes du jour in 1996. They rated!    Not by me but the world youth of that time certainly .

That's the point, duckling.

Poppettes  = ephemera.

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 3:37pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? The Spice Girls were the artistes du jour in 1996. They rated!

**glooms**

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 4:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 2:45pm: John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 2:25pm: AusGeoff wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 3:51am: John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 1:24pm: ohh, another thread where Geoff complains about something that will never have any affect on him you're not off pommie origin perchance, are you Geoff Well, of course this doesn't personally affect me at all John. But would you agree that it's yet another indicator that our population—particularly the younger, future, scientists, teachers, engineers, doctors, politicians etc—are being dumbed down by this sort of media-led drivel? In purely realistic terms, Taylor Swift has never offered the world anything of credible value—nothing that's enhanced society overall, saved lives, stopped wars, cured cancer, improved global air quality or water supplies etc. And yes, I'm aware that she supports several charitable causes, but then she has an estimated worth of US$1.1 billion. She can afford to simply as virtue signalling, with no actual impact on her lifestyle at all.  But it makes her look good in the eyes of her moronic fan base—who call themselves "Swifties".       Puhleeze! According to recent estimates published on CNN, Taylor's Eras tour could gross $2.2 billion in just North American ticket sales alone, which would make it the highest grossing tour in history. She could take home an estimated US$500 million from this single tour. Is that your beef? That's she's richer and more applauded than you?  :D :D :D and no, I don't agree that this another indicator of our population dumbing down.  There are billions of her fans who would argue that she has enhanced their lives. You don't have to like who times chooses, but you are fooling yourself if you think she's had zero impact on peoples lives. Check out this example: More than 35,000 people registered to vote after Swift posted on social media Tuesday for National Voter Registration Day, encouraging her fans to register themselves to vote. Swift posted an Instagram Story urging her 272 million followers to register to vote on Vote.org, a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization offering voter registration services. According to Vote.org, Swift and the platform have been working together for several years. Vote.org has a goal of registering 8 million voters before the November 2024 election, according to a release, and thanks in part to Swift's posts, the nonprofit is making progress toward that goal. After Swift's post, Vote.org was averaging 13,000 users every 30 minutes, Nick Morrow, Vote.org's communications director posted on X, formerly Twitter. And just check out how many followers she has. Stacked vote, eh?  Same thing as The Tavern whining and crying.... Taylor Swift - vote early, vote often.

Stacked vote?  How so?

She isn't telling anyone who to vote for - she's just telling them to register to vote.

The new conspiracy theory is Taylor pulled a Swifty....There appears to be pattern where a certain cohort of people call everything they don't agree with corrupt or tainted....Being popular wins votes and Taylor Swift is certainly popular with those who would bother voting....Who cares???

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Keep up, town dorks......

Nobody GAS about Swaylor Tift..... whoever that is ..... as for charities - BAH .... Humbug!!

And now for a little more triggering from our sponsor....

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Taylor - has done some great covers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJwE8Lg2fZk

Dnarever wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 8:34pm:

Taylor - has done some great covers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJwE8Lg2fZk

It's  like Hillsong without Jesus.

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 9:26pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:34pm: Taylor - has done some great covers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJwE8Lg2fZk It's  like Hillsong without Jesus.

Hillsong only markets Jesus for profit. There is nothing in common.

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 4:50pm:

The new conspiracy theory is Taylor pulled a Swifty....There appears to be pattern where a certain cohort of people call everything they don't agree with corrupt or tainted....Being popular wins votes and Taylor Swift is certainly popular with those who would bother voting....Who cares??? ::) ::) ::)

Hey, whatever and whoever sells Time Magazine the most.
That's all that matters.
Cashing in on whoever will sell their boring Mag the most.

John Smith wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 2:25pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 3:51am: John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2023 at 1:24pm: ohh, another thread where Geoff complains about something that will never have any affect on him you're not off pommie origin perchance, are you Geoff Well, of course this doesn't personally affect me at all John. But would you agree that it's yet another indicator that our population—particularly the younger, future, scientists, teachers, engineers, doctors, politicians etc—are being dumbed down by this sort of media-led drivel... Is that your beef? That's she's richer and more applauded than you?  and no, I don't agree that this another indicator of our population dumbing down.  There are billions of her fans who would argue that she has enhanced their lives. You don't have to like who times chooses, but you are fooling yourself if you think she's had zero impact on peoples lives.

No John, I seriously don't give a damn that she's filthy
rich.  Most people in the public eye have a lot more
money than me, so I'm certainly not singling Swift out
for that reason alone—or at all in fact.

What I do object to is the obscene amount of money a
singer of modest talent with unremarkable vocal prowess
is effectively ripping off millions of naive, impressionable
tweenie girls the world over.

Driven of course—not by any fabulous talent per se—but
by a relentless marketing machine that itself sinks
multi-millions of dollars into promoting Swift.

Anyway...

Despite Time's frequent denials, the designation is often
regarded as an honour and spoken of as an award or prize,
simply based on many previous selections of admirable
people.  However, it points out that controversial figures
such as Adolf Hitler (1938); Joseph Stalin (1939 and 1942);
Nikita Khrushchev (1957); Ruhollah Khomeini (1979);
and Rudy Giuliani (2001) were also granted the title for
their impact on world events.

As a result of the public backlash Time received from its US
readers for naming Khomeini Man of the Year in 1979,
the magazine's editors now shy away from naming people
who're controversial in the United States, fearing reductions
in sales or advertising revenue.  Time simply nowadays
chooses someone who'll sell lots of copies.   End of story.

—It's all about money John, with Swift's talent, or lack   
   thereof, immaterial.

mothra wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:55am: mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:43am: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:41am: mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? Better? Happy, Jen? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAq4vnJWAAATqcG?.jpg As meaningless to me as Taylor Swift's appointment. You on the other hand, massively triggered. Silly bint: you don't care because it's meaningless but you do comment. Only to mock you in your hysteria, fruitbat. You're like the gift that keeps giving.

Hysteria.

Do you see what they have in common?


https://twitter.com/ClownWorld_/status/1734833110242799827

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Why do young women trigger the rethuglicans so badly.

Taylor wrote a song about Republicans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQuY8kERaU0

We don't care about Swift or Republicans or Democrats .. what WE need to concern ourselves with is the OzPol Person Of The Year.... that is a contest with about as much meaning as these mutual back-slapping exercises...

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Grapps for Ozpolian of the Year !!! 8-)

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 9^th, 2023 at 2:20am:

No John, I seriously don't give a damn that she's filthy rich.

and yet you bought it up as if it was relevant


AusGeoff wrote on Dec 9^th, 2023 at 2:20am:

What I do object to is the obscene amount of money a singer of modest talent with unremarkable vocal prowess is effectively ripping off millions of naive, impressionable tweenie girls the world over.

Ahh, so it is about the money ::)



AusGeoff wrote on Dec 9^th, 2023 at 2:20am:

Driven of course—not by any fabulous talent per se—but by a relentless marketing machine that itself sinks multi-millions of dollars into promoting Swift.

driving that marketing machine TAKES talent ... and millions of people would disagree with you about her talent. You aren't the final arbiter of who is and who isn't talented.


AusGeoff wrote on Dec 9^th, 2023 at 2:20am:

—It's all about money John, with Swift's talent, or lack       thereof, immaterial.

It always is .. Times doesn't publish the magazine so they can lose money

John Smith wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 1:57pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 9th, 2023 at 2:20am: —It's all about money John, with Swift's talent, or lack       thereof, immaterial. It always is .. Times doesn't publish the magazine so they can lose money.

Uh... I think you may've entirely missed the point
John, considering why I started this thread.  At its
simplest the point I was making was how absurd  it
was that Time chose a mediocre pop singer as its
person of the year.

When you consider the plethora of global figures that
would've made a far more worthy subject:  You know,
people that had actually contributed something material,
of great worthiness to the world, or to science or politics,
or to education or medicine for example.   Why only a
bloody pop singer?

—Or are you maybe a closet Taylor Swift groupie?     ;D

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 14th, 2023 at 1:57pm: AusGeoff wrote on Dec 9th, 2023 at 2:20am: —It's all about money John, with Swift's talent, or lack       thereof, immaterial. It always is .. Times doesn't publish the magazine so they can lose money. Uh... I think you may've entirely missed the point John, considering why I started this thread.  At its simplest the point I was making was how absurd  it was that Time chose a mediocre pop singer as its person of the year. When you consider the plethora of global figures that would've made a far more worthy subject:  You know, people that had actually contributed something material, of great worthiness to the world, or to science or politics, or to education or medicine for example.   Why only a bloody pop singer? —Or are you maybe a closet Taylor Swift groupie?     ;D

Person of the Year (called Man of the Year or Woman of the Year until 1999) is an annual issue of the American news magazine and website Time featuring a person, a group, idea, or object that "for better or for worse... has done the most to influence the events of the year".

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

I think you may've entirely missed the point John, considering why I started this thread.

I thought it was so that you could whinge again. You seem to enjoy whinging about things that have zero impact on you.

"Every year contains light and dark; 2023 was a year with significant shares of darkness. In a divided world, where too many institutions are failing, Taylor Swift found a way to transcend borders and be a source of light. No one else on the planet today can move so many people so well. Achieving this feat is something we often chalk up to the alignments of planets and fates, but giving too much credit to the stars ignores her skill and her power."


https://time.com/6342816/person-of-the-year-2023-taylor-swift-choice/

The Dark Side is winning... you've got to admit - the Twentieth Century was all its... and the 21st is just accelerating into first place...

Albo should be the Person of the Year - he has single-handedly dismantled democracy in Australia where the vote of the people is paramount.... and replaced it with a dictatorship ..... and all while you dorks sleep on... and half of you will vote for his party next time around... how dumb is that?

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Last month, Harvard announced that I would be teaching a class next semester called “Taylor Swift and Her World,” an open-enrollment lecture partly about Swift’s work and career and partly about literature (poems, novels, memoirs) that overlaps with, or speaks to, that work. When the news came out, my inbox blew up with dozens of requests, from as far away as New Zealand. Reporters wanted to know whether Swift would visit the course (not expecting her to), whether her online superfans were involved (some will be), whether Harvard approved (yes, at least so far), and, above all, why a Millennial pop star deserves this kind of treatment at a world-class university.
The Atlantic




English 183ts. Taylor Swift and Her World
Instructor: Stephanie Burt
Monday & Wednesday, 12:00-1:15pm | Location: TBD
Course Site

The first song on Taylor Swift's first record, released when she was 16, paid homage (by name) to a more established country artist. Today she's the most recognizable country-- or formerly country? or pop?-- artist in North America, if not the world: her songwriting takes in half a dozen genres, and her economic impact changes cities. We will move through Swift's own catalogue, including hits, deep cuts, outtakes, re-recordings, considering songwriting as its own art, distinct from poems recited or silently read. We will learn how to study fan culture, celebrity culture, adolescence, adulthood and appropriation; how to think about white texts, Southern texts, transatlantic texts, and queer subtexts. We will learn how to think about illicit affairs, and hoaxes, champagne problems and incomplete closure. We will look at her precursors, from Dolly Parton to the Border Ballads, and at work about her (such as the documentary "Miss Americana"). And we will read literary works important to her and works about song and performance, with novels, memoirs and poems by (among others) Willa Cather, James Weldon Johnson, Tracey Thorn, and William Wordsworth.
https://english.fas.harvard.edu/english-183ts-taylor-swift-and-her-world




The valorisation of the banal.
Don't let your kids enrol in English departments at uni.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 7:14pm:

Taylor doing this Vance Joy song is probably what gave him his break. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wyYucOEqV8

You think?

I prefer his version.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 8:26pm:

Taylor is a well deserved winner.

;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 8:38pm:

Let's hear from her husband: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y71iDvCYXA Diana's, not Taylor's   :)

I think some Aussie band Rogue Traders with Natalie Bassingthwaite pinched the beat of Elvis Costellos tune.....

in fact almost exactly.

Wonder if they paid for it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrlhLaNClgw&ab_channel=RogueTradersVEVO

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2023 at 11:13pm:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/154/234/417/original/6ef4edfdfd659d08.jpg

;D

mothra wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 7:18am:

Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails?

Was Kanye West consulted?

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 3:37pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 7:18am: Butthurt old white guys EVERYWHERE! Honestly, the things you lot get sand in your lady gardens over. Hilarious! How dare somebody you don't rate rate! I mean, didn't they get your strongly worded emails? The Spice Girls were the artistes du jour in 1996. They rated!

;D Don't like Swift .... never liked Spice Girls.

Both don't & didn't rate in my music preferences.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 8:34pm:

Taylor - has done some great covers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJwE8Lg2fZk

Taylor Swift doing a cover ....who cares?

Dnarever wrote on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 9:49pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 9:26pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 8th, 2023 at 8:34pm: Taylor - has done some great covers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJwE8Lg2fZk It's  like Hillsong without Jesus. Hillsong only markets Jesus for profit. There is nothing in common.

She markets herself for profit

Is she Jesus? ;D

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2024 at 7:07am:

Last month, Harvard announced that I would be teaching a class next semester called “Taylor Swift and Her World,” an open-enrollment lecture partly about Swift’s work and career and partly about literature (poems, novels, memoirs) that overlaps with, or speaks to, that work. When the news came out, my inbox blew up with dozens of requests, from as far away as New Zealand. Reporters wanted to know whether Swift would visit the course (not expecting her to), whether her online superfans were involved (some will be), whether Harvard approved (yes, at least so far), and, above all, why a Millennial pop star deserves this kind of treatment at a world-class university. The Atlantic English 183ts. Taylor Swift and Her World Instructor: Stephanie Burt Monday & Wednesday, 12:00-1:15pm | Location: TBD Course Site The first song on Taylor Swift's first record, released when she was 16, paid homage (by name) to a more established country artist. Today she's the most recognizable country-- or formerly country? or pop?-- artist in North America, if not the world: her songwriting takes in half a dozen genres, and her economic impact changes cities. We will move through Swift's own catalogue, including hits, deep cuts, outtakes, re-recordings, considering songwriting as its own art, distinct from poems recited or silently read. We will learn how to study fan culture, celebrity culture, adolescence, adulthood and appropriation; how to think about white texts, Southern texts, transatlantic texts, and queer subtexts. We will learn how to think about illicit affairs, and hoaxes, champagne problems and incomplete closure. We will look at her precursors, from Dolly Parton to the Border Ballads, and at work about her (such as the documentary "Miss Americana"). And we will read literary works important to her and works about song and performance, with novels, memoirs and poems by (among others) Willa Cather, James Weldon Johnson, Tracey Thorn, and William Wordsworth. https://english.fas.harvard.edu/english-183ts-taylor-swift-and-her-world The valorisation of the banal. Don't let your kids enrol in English departments at uni.

We will learn....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x359GgVRWaE


"guess you guys aren't ready for that yet...but your kids are gonna love it."

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Selena Gomez Explains To Taylor Swift How The Federal Reserve Creates Boom And Bust Cycles Through Manipulation Of Interest Rates And Fiat Currency

https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/65a03b2b96fd465a03b2b96fd5.jpg


BEVERLY HILLS, CA — Taylor Swift was visibly shocked and stunned at the Golden Globes this year when Selena Gomez came over to her table to explain how the Federal Reserve causes the boom-and-bust business cycle through the central banking system's manipulation of interest rates and fiat currency.

The moment was caught by the 37 cameras trained on Taylor Swift's table to capture her every reaction throughout the night's proceedings. In the now-viral moment which has been immortalized forever in GIF form, Taylor Swift was seen gasping in reaction to hearing for the first time that inflation, as defined by Ludwig von Mises, is actually the increase in the supply of money and not the resultant increase in prices and that when central banks inflate the currency they artificially stimulate economic activity creating malinvestments.

"What? No way!" remarked Taylor. "So that is the bubble that has to pop at some point and the Federal Reserve tries to keep the charade going as long as they can with low interest rates and cheap credit?!"

"Yeah, totally," replied Selena. "Interest rates should be set by the amount of real savings in the economy to signal to borrowers and producers of capital goods that consumers have a lower time preference, preferring to spend their money on goods and services later. When the real savings are shown to not be there to justify all this economic activity, all those new industries and consumer products will collapse."

"No way!" said Taylor again. "And Mises wrote about all this in his 1912 Theory On Money And Credit? And Friedrich Hayek won a Nobel Prize in economics in 1974 after advancing this so-called Austrian business cycle theory? No. Way."

At publishing time, Taylor Swift was spotted writing a new song about how she was breaking up with Keynesian economic theory and drawing little hearts in her new journal from the Mises Institute.


True story.