hamas certainly dont care about kids

fancy keeping a 10 month baby hostage

what scum

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aquascoot wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 2:00pm:

hamas certainly dont care about kids

No they don't

Neither does Israel. They've killed over 4237 so far, and still going

John Smith wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 2:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:00pm: hamas certainly dont care about kids No they don't Neither does Israel. They've killed over 4237 so far, and still going

so these palestinians have left that many kids in the line of fire

what disgusting people, leaving kids in a warzone

The killing and/or injuring of any children or babies
should be regarded as a crime against humanity,
and duly punished by the World Court as a matter
of course.  It has to be stopped ASAP.

And that comes back to Ismail Haniyeh in particular
and Benjamin Netanyahu in general I'd reckon.

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 2:37pm:

The killing and/or injuring of any children or babies should be regarded as a crime against humanity, and duly punished by the World Court as a matter of course.  It has to be stopped ASAP. And that comes back to Ismail Haniyeh in particular and Benjamin Netanyahu in general I'd reckon.

Yep.

Hamas are scum for the way they treat children, and so is the IDF.

Both should be condemned unconditionally for the mistreatment and murder of innocent babies, children, women, and men.

hamas are scum and so are the palestinians. is what you meant to say

why couldnt they move their kids?

too lazy??

did they learn nothing from the british


the biggest mass movement of people in Britain's history, which began in September 1939.

Operation Pied Piper saw people, mostly children, evacuated to the country from towns and cities at risk of being bombed.

Nearly three million were moved in the first four days.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 2:43pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:37pm: The killing and/or injuring of any children or babies should be regarded as a crime against humanity, and duly punished by the World Court as a matter of course.  It has to be stopped ASAP. And that comes back to Ismail Haniyeh in particular and Benjamin Netanyahu in general I'd reckon. Yep. Hamas are scum for the way they treat children, and so is the IDF. Both should be condemned unconditionally for the mistreatment and murder of innocent babies, children, women, and men.

Hamas are scum, but given their tactics of hiding in hospitals and schools and behind children and noncombatants in general, what would you have the IDF do?

Why do John and Greg hate Jews so much?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 2:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:12pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:00pm: hamas certainly dont care about kids No they don't Neither does Israel. They've killed over 4237 so far, and still going so these palestinians have left that many kids in the line of fire what disgusting people, leaving kids in a warzone

You mean the ones who evacuated to the south only to still be bombed?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 3:01pm:

why couldnt they move their kids?

move them where? You don't want them to seek asylum.

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 3:50pm:

Why do John and Greg hate Jews so much?

You mistake my disdain for child murders for 'hatred of jews'. More fool you.

Belgarion wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 3:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:43pm: AusGeoff wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:37pm: The killing and/or injuring of any children or babies should be regarded as a crime against humanity, and duly punished by the World Court as a matter of course.  It has to be stopped ASAP. And that comes back to Ismail Haniyeh in particular and Benjamin Netanyahu in general I'd reckon. Yep. Hamas are scum for the way they treat children, and so is the IDF. Both should be condemned unconditionally for the mistreatment and murder of innocent babies, children, women, and men. Hamas are scum, but given their tactics of hiding in hospitals and schools and behind children and noncombatants in general, what would you have the IDF do?

That's easy to answer.

I would have them not kill pregnant women and newborn babies.

I would have them not deliberately target hospitals, schools and small children.

The IDF is murdering children, and there is no excuse for it (just as there is no excuse for the atrocities committed by Hamas).

You wouldn't be so indifferent to human life if the children were your own.

John Smith wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 4:40pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:01pm: why couldnt they move their kids? move them where? You don't want them to seek asylum.

No no, you're mistaken. Aquascoot wants them given asylum in the Sinai desert, where they can return to their awesome Bedouin ways, before developing the Sinai Peninsular into the new Las Vegas. You've gotta have a dream, no?

Aquascoot is still getting his head around the idea of Egypt being a totally different country with, you know, migration and planning regulations, but that shouldn't stop the Israelis from carrying out their noble Stalingrad Solution.

If the Gyppos won't take them, tough titties, blame the leftards. Aquascoot just doesn't want them given asylum here.

FD wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 6:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 4:40pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:01pm: why couldnt they move their kids? move them where? You don't want them to seek asylum. No no, you're mistaken. Aquascoot wants them given asylum in the Sinai desert, where they can return to their awesome Bedouin ways, before developing the Sinai Peninsular into the new Las Vegas. You've gotta have a dream, no? Aquascoot is still getting his head around the idea of Egypt being a totally different country with, you know, migration and planning regulations, but that shouldn't stop the Israelis from carrying out their noble Stalingrad Solution. If the Gyppos won't take them, tough titties, blame the leftards. Aquascoot just doesn't want them given asylum here.

why wouldnt egypt take them ?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 5:04pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:02pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:43pm: AusGeoff wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:37pm: The killing and/or injuring of any children or babies should be regarded as a crime against humanity, and duly punished by the World Court as a matter of course.  It has to be stopped ASAP. And that comes back to Ismail Haniyeh in particular and Benjamin Netanyahu in general I'd reckon. Yep. Hamas are scum for the way they treat children, and so is the IDF. Both should be condemned unconditionally for the mistreatment and murder of innocent babies, children, women, and men. Hamas are scum, but given their tactics of hiding in hospitals and schools and behind children and noncombatants in general, what would you have the IDF do? That's easy to answer. I would have them not kill pregnant women and newborn babies. I would have them not deliberately target hospitals, schools and small children. The IDF is murdering children, and there is no excuse for it (just as there is no excuse for the atrocities committed by Hamas). You wouldn't be so indifferent to human life if the children were your own.

Excellent idea, if only Hamas would cooperate. You see, Hamas plans its tactics to ensure the maximum number of civilian casualties, even though the IDF does all it reasonably can to avoid such. Then the propaganda campaign about the brutal Israelis is given full voice by many compliant western media outlets and far too many useful fools believe it.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 6:53pm:

FD wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 6:31pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 4:40pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:01pm: why couldnt they move their kids? move them where? You don't want them to seek asylum. No no, you're mistaken. Aquascoot wants them given asylum in the Sinai desert, where they can return to their awesome Bedouin ways, before developing the Sinai Peninsular into the new Las Vegas. You've gotta have a dream, no? Aquascoot is still getting his head around the idea of Egypt being a totally different country with, you know, migration and planning regulations, but that shouldn't stop the Israelis from carrying out their noble Stalingrad Solution. If the Gyppos won't take them, tough titties, blame the leftards. Aquascoot just doesn't want them given asylum here. why wouldnt egypt take them ?

Why should they? You do understand that Egypt is a different country right?

John Smith wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 7:36pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 6:53pm: FD wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 6:31pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 4:40pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:01pm: why couldnt they move their kids? move them where? You don't want them to seek asylum. No no, you're mistaken. Aquascoot wants them given asylum in the Sinai desert, where they can return to their awesome Bedouin ways, before developing the Sinai Peninsular into the new Las Vegas. You've gotta have a dream, no? Aquascoot is still getting his head around the idea of Egypt being a totally different country with, you know, migration and planning regulations, but that shouldn't stop the Israelis from carrying out their noble Stalingrad Solution. If the Gyppos won't take them, tough titties, blame the leftards. Aquascoot just doesn't want them given asylum here. why wouldnt egypt take them ? Why should they? You do understand that Egypt is a different country right?

why did poland take ukrainian women and kids?
you do understand poland is a different country right ?

maybe its because they are decent people.

are the arabs in egyot not decent people, mr smith  ::) ::)

John Smith wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 4:40pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:01pm: why couldnt they move their kids? move them where? You don't want them to seek asylum.

Why not build a functioning society with all that aid, instead of building tunnels and rockets??


Because there is no jihadi kudos in organising a functioning society. Martyrdom, destruction, death are all glorious in the eyes of Allah. Functioning schools, hospitals, roads and garbage collection are not mentioned in the Koran or hadiths so martyrdom for Allah is the only future.


****ing idiots. Just like you, swarthy bozo.

Belgarion wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 7:33pm:

Excellent idea, if only Hamas would cooperate. You see, Hamas plans its tactics to ensure the maximum number of civilian casualties, even though the IDF does all it reasonably can to avoid such. Then the propaganda campaign about the brutal Israelis is given full voice by many compliant western media outlets and far too many useful fools believe it.

There is no way Hamas can defeat Israel in a conventional war so they hide behind women and children and wait for the useful idiots in the west to scream for a ceasefire.

These idiots in the west believe everything hamas say they forget hamas said no civilians were killed by them on Oct 7th.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 5:04pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:02pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:43pm: AusGeoff wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:37pm: The killing and/or injuring of any children or babies should be regarded as a crime against humanity, and duly punished by the World Court as a matter of course.  It has to be stopped ASAP. And that comes back to Ismail Haniyeh in particular and Benjamin Netanyahu in general I'd reckon. Yep. Hamas are scum for the way they treat children, and so is the IDF. Both should be condemned unconditionally for the mistreatment and murder of innocent babies, children, women, and men. Hamas are scum, but given their tactics of hiding in hospitals and schools and behind children and noncombatants in general, what would you have the IDF do? That's easy to answer. I would have them not kill pregnant women and newborn babies. I would have them not deliberately target hospitals, schools and small children. The IDF is murdering children, and there is no excuse for it (just as there is no excuse for the atrocities committed by Hamas). You wouldn't be so indifferent to human life if the children were your own.

And how would you "not have them" do anything fix anything? Would you just yell stop! Rather than wanting to know what you would have them not do, I would like you to tell me what you think they should do within the guidelines you have set? Just sit and wait for Hamas at the border? What?

Setanta wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 8:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 5:04pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:02pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:43pm: AusGeoff wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:37pm: The killing and/or injuring of any children or babies should be regarded as a crime against humanity, and duly punished by the World Court as a matter of course.  It has to be stopped ASAP. And that comes back to Ismail Haniyeh in particular and Benjamin Netanyahu in general I'd reckon. Yep. Hamas are scum for the way they treat children, and so is the IDF. Both should be condemned unconditionally for the mistreatment and murder of innocent babies, children, women, and men. Hamas are scum, but given their tactics of hiding in hospitals and schools and behind children and noncombatants in general, what would you have the IDF do? That's easy to answer. I would have them not kill pregnant women and newborn babies. I would have them not deliberately target hospitals, schools and small children. The IDF is murdering children, and there is no excuse for it (just as there is no excuse for the atrocities committed by Hamas). You wouldn't be so indifferent to human life if the children were your own. And how would you "not have them" do anything fix anything? Would you just yell stop! Rather than wanting to know what you would have them not do, I would like you to tell me what you think they should do within the guidelines you have set? Just sit and wait for Hamas at the border? What?

That's up to them, not me.

They just need to stop murdering children.

If a defence force is not capable of achieving their goals without murdering children, they should maybe find a new line of work.

Stop murdering children - it's that simple.

The IDF and Hamas are deliberately murdering children.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 6:53pm:

FD wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 6:31pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 4:40pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:01pm: why couldnt they move their kids? move them where? You don't want them to seek asylum. No no, you're mistaken. Aquascoot wants them given asylum in the Sinai desert, where they can return to their awesome Bedouin ways, before developing the Sinai Peninsular into the new Las Vegas. You've gotta have a dream, no? Aquascoot is still getting his head around the idea of Egypt being a totally different country with, you know, migration and planning regulations, but that shouldn't stop the Israelis from carrying out their noble Stalingrad Solution. If the Gyppos won't take them, tough titties, blame the leftards. Aquascoot just doesn't want them given asylum here. why wouldnt egypt take them ?

7900 Palestinian children now with amputations, many without anaesthetic.

Good question, dear. Why wouldn't?

But I'm curious. How's your Stalingrad Solution going?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 8:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 7:36pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 6:53pm: FD wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 6:31pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 4:40pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:01pm: why couldnt they move their kids? move them where? You don't want them to seek asylum. No no, you're mistaken. Aquascoot wants them given asylum in the Sinai desert, where they can return to their awesome Bedouin ways, before developing the Sinai Peninsular into the new Las Vegas. You've gotta have a dream, no? Aquascoot is still getting his head around the idea of Egypt being a totally different country with, you know, migration and planning regulations, but that shouldn't stop the Israelis from carrying out their noble Stalingrad Solution. If the Gyppos won't take them, tough titties, blame the leftards. Aquascoot just doesn't want them given asylum here. why wouldnt egypt take them ? Why should they? You do understand that Egypt is a different country right? why did poland take ukrainian women and kids? you do understand poland is a different country right ?

Is it?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 8:51pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 8:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 5:04pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:02pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:43pm: AusGeoff wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:37pm: The killing and/or injuring of any children or babies should be regarded as a crime against humanity, and duly punished by the World Court as a matter of course.  It has to be stopped ASAP. And that comes back to Ismail Haniyeh in particular and Benjamin Netanyahu in general I'd reckon. Yep. Hamas are scum for the way they treat children, and so is the IDF. Both should be condemned unconditionally for the mistreatment and murder of innocent babies, children, women, and men. Hamas are scum, but given their tactics of hiding in hospitals and schools and behind children and noncombatants in general, what would you have the IDF do? That's easy to answer. I would have them not kill pregnant women and newborn babies. I would have them not deliberately target hospitals, schools and small children. The IDF is murdering children, and there is no excuse for it (just as there is no excuse for the atrocities committed by Hamas). You wouldn't be so indifferent to human life if the children were your own. And how would you "not have them" do anything fix anything? Would you just yell stop! Rather than wanting to know what you would have them not do, I would like you to tell me what you think they should do within the guidelines you have set? Just sit and wait for Hamas at the border? What? That's up to them, not me. They just need to stop murdering children. If a defence force is not capable of achieving their goals without murdering children, they should maybe find a new line of work. Stop murdering children - it's that simple. The IDF and Hamas are deliberately murdering children.

Ahhh... Well you won't be any help in stopping kids being killed then will you.

Setanta wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 9:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 8:51pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 8:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 5:04pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:02pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:43pm: AusGeoff wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:37pm: The killing and/or injuring of any children or babies should be regarded as a crime against humanity, and duly punished by the World Court as a matter of course.  It has to be stopped ASAP. And that comes back to Ismail Haniyeh in particular and Benjamin Netanyahu in general I'd reckon. Yep. Hamas are scum for the way they treat children, and so is the IDF. Both should be condemned unconditionally for the mistreatment and murder of innocent babies, children, women, and men. Hamas are scum, but given their tactics of hiding in hospitals and schools and behind children and noncombatants in general, what would you have the IDF do? That's easy to answer. I would have them not kill pregnant women and newborn babies. I would have them not deliberately target hospitals, schools and small children. The IDF is murdering children, and there is no excuse for it (just as there is no excuse for the atrocities committed by Hamas). You wouldn't be so indifferent to human life if the children were your own. And how would you "not have them" do anything fix anything? Would you just yell stop! Rather than wanting to know what you would have them not do, I would like you to tell me what you think they should do within the guidelines you have set? Just sit and wait for Hamas at the border? What? That's up to them, not me. They just need to stop murdering children. If a defence force is not capable of achieving their goals without murdering children, they should maybe find a new line of work. Stop murdering children - it's that simple. The IDF and Hamas are deliberately murdering children. Ahhh... Well you won't be any help in stopping kids being killed then will you.

No.

I have no control over the murderers in Hamas and the IDF.

Those monsters do whatever they want to do.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 10:34pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 9:24pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 8:51pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 8:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 5:04pm: Belgarion wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:02pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:43pm: AusGeoff wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:37pm: The killing and/or injuring of any children or babies should be regarded as a crime against humanity, and duly punished by the World Court as a matter of course.  It has to be stopped ASAP. And that comes back to Ismail Haniyeh in particular and Benjamin Netanyahu in general I'd reckon. Yep. Hamas are scum for the way they treat children, and so is the IDF. Both should be condemned unconditionally for the mistreatment and murder of innocent babies, children, women, and men. Hamas are scum, but given their tactics of hiding in hospitals and schools and behind children and noncombatants in general, what would you have the IDF do? That's easy to answer. I would have them not kill pregnant women and newborn babies. I would have them not deliberately target hospitals, schools and small children. The IDF is murdering children, and there is no excuse for it (just as there is no excuse for the atrocities committed by Hamas). You wouldn't be so indifferent to human life if the children were your own. And how would you "not have them" do anything fix anything? Would you just yell stop! Rather than wanting to know what you would have them not do, I would like you to tell me what you think they should do within the guidelines you have set? Just sit and wait for Hamas at the border? What? That's up to them, not me. They just need to stop murdering children. If a defence force is not capable of achieving their goals without murdering children, they should maybe find a new line of work. Stop murdering children - it's that simple. The IDF and Hamas are deliberately murdering children. Ahhh... Well you won't be any help in stopping kids being killed then will you. No. I have no control over the murderers in Hamas and the IDF. Those monsters do whatever they want to do.

Yes, but I think Setanta's suggesting you do something more, Greggery. Perhaps jump on a plane to Tel Aviv and stand in front of a tank, something like that.

Anything other than suggest - on a political discussion board of all places - that Israel should do the right thing and not kill kids.

For some reason, a number of members here seem to find this proposition offensive. Some are even advocating the death of more kids. The very idea that Israel should exercise proportionality, restraint or even follow the rules of war is somehow obscene.

You get that. We seem to recall a similar discussion in 2003. For some reason, they all recanted in 2013 and became devout peaceniks.

Ever get the feeling?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 8:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 7:36pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 6:53pm: FD wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 6:31pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 4:40pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:01pm: why couldnt they move their kids? move them where? You don't want them to seek asylum. No no, you're mistaken. Aquascoot wants them given asylum in the Sinai desert, where they can return to their awesome Bedouin ways, before developing the Sinai Peninsular into the new Las Vegas. You've gotta have a dream, no? Aquascoot is still getting his head around the idea of Egypt being a totally different country with, you know, migration and planning regulations, but that shouldn't stop the Israelis from carrying out their noble Stalingrad Solution. If the Gyppos won't take them, tough titties, blame the leftards. Aquascoot just doesn't want them given asylum here. why wouldnt egypt take them ? Why should they? You do understand that Egypt is a different country right? why did poland take ukrainian women and kids? you do understand poland is a different country right ? maybe its because they are decent people. are the arabs in egyot not decent people, mr smith  ::) ::)

Great, so you've no problem then with Australia taking them in. After all, we're a decent people, right?

Frank wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 8:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 4:40pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:01pm: why couldnt they move their kids? move them where? You don't want them to seek asylum. Why not build a functioning society with all that aid, instead of building tunnels and rockets??

because Israel has prevented them importing anything and everything they might use to help build a better society. Israel even controls Palestine's water and electricity supplies.

John Smith wrote on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 6:07am:

Frank wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 8:05pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 4:40pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:01pm: why couldnt they move their kids? move them where? You don't want them to seek asylum. Why not build a functioning society with all that aid, instead of building tunnels and rockets?? because Israel has prevented them importing anything and everything they might use to help build a better society. Israel even controls Palestine's water and electricity supplies.

The reason the Palestinians don't have a functioning society with decent infrastructure is nothing to do with the Israelis and everything to do with the Muslim states like Iran who deliberately keep the place in squalour and ignorance to ensure a ready supply of cannon fodder for their proxy Jihad against Israel.  ::)

John Smith wrote on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 6:07am:

Frank wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 8:05pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 4:40pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:01pm: why couldnt they move their kids? move them where? You don't want them to seek asylum. Why not build a functioning society with all that aid, instead of building tunnels and rockets?? because Israel has prevented them importing anything and everything they might use to help build a better society. Israel even controls Palestine's water and electricity supplies.

Well, it takes suicidal fanatics to sacrifice their own families just to build rockets and tunnels instead of schools and hospitals.
Israel controls what goes in and out of Gaza BECAUSE Hamas is a suicidal, fanatical terrorist group that is not interested in the humdrum drudgery of building a clean, functioning society, only in sacrificing everything for glorios martyrdom of their own people for Allah.

There would be no Israeli control if Palestinians could control themselves.

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 8:30am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 29th, 2023 at 6:07am: Frank wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 8:05pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 4:40pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:01pm: why couldnt they move their kids? move them where? You don't want them to seek asylum. Why not build a functioning society with all that aid, instead of building tunnels and rockets?? because Israel has prevented them importing anything and everything they might use to help build a better society. Israel even controls Palestine's water and electricity supplies. Well, it takes suicidal fanatics to sacrifice their own families just to build rockets and tunnels instead of schools and hospitals. Israel controls what goes in and out of Gaza BECAUSE Hamas is a suicidal, fanatical terrorist group that is not interested in the humdrum drudgery of building a clean, functioning society, only in sacrificing everything for glorios martyrdom of their own people for Allah. There would be no Israeli control if Palestinians could control themselves.

"....suicidal fanatics....sacrifice their own families just to build rockets and tunnels instead of schools and hospitals."

"....Hamas is a suicidal, fanatical terrorist group that is not interested in the humdrum drudgery of building a clean, functioning society, only in sacrificing everything for glorios martyrdom..."


Every one a good and pertinent point Frank.



Followers of ISLAM are devoted to following instructions from the Holy Koran.....

as per.......

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


.


FURTHER;


WWW search....
AL WALAA WAL BARAA, "Islamic jurists"


Essentially, AL WALAA WAL BARAA, translates as;

".....loving and hating for the sake of Allah."


It means, LOVING your moslem brothers.   .....as per ISLAMIC religious precepts.

It means, HATING the non-moslem.   .....as per ISLAMIC religious precepts.

It means, being a moslem.

It means, OBEYING ISLAMIC LAW [   .......and seeking harm, and the death of, all those who reject the PRIMACY of ISLAMIC law.] !


as per......

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1

John Smith wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 4:41pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:50pm: Why do John and Greg hate Jews so much? You mistake my disdain for child murders for 'hatred of jews'. More fool you.

Do the Jews also sacrifice puppies and leave them on the steps of the church? Just concerned about the puppies, that's all.

freediver wrote on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 10:04am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 4:41pm: freediver wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:50pm: Why do John and Greg hate Jews so much? You mistake my disdain for child murders for 'hatred of jews'. More fool you. Do the Jews also sacrifice puppies and leave them on the steps of the church?

Sometimes a question is just a question.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/articles/logical-fallacies.html#association%20fallacy