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Message started by Baronvonrort on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:30pm

Title: Argentina has a new President
Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:30pm

Quote:
Argentinian’s new president has zero tolerance for the woke left.

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1726385026164576374


Leftards ruin everything.


Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by aquascoot on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:08pm
holy moly

is that REALLY their president

he absolutely hates the lefties.

he hates the lefties more then hamas hate the jews

what an extraordinary speech.

thanks for posting

and good luck to this "superior man"

he actually uses that term , which is awesome

i hope he gets to sit next to trudeau at a state dinner  :D


Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:14pm
Holy moly alright!
He didn't hold back on the hard truths that the Lefties (Media based) have ruined Politics in the world.
This is why the Media's around the world are 'mostly' Pro-Lefties. Because the Lefties suit their Media narratives and like we saw here in Australia - earns the Media a good pay packet of $450 million from Tax Payers.

Argentina is stuffed because of the Lefties and 'Media' control of Politics. Hell, check out the fake-blonde Media savvy interviewer trying to 'deny' his mere presence and non-media-savvy personality. As if he gives a rats about sucking up to the Media and being 'Media-Correct' for them.

He looks pissed and tough. Maybe Argentina need a guy like him to be Politically 'honest' and not just put on a Media Show that all will be right.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:38pm
Thanks to the leftards inflation is 120%.

He was elected to fix the mess.

Looks like all that woke BS is gone.

https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1726394041745444923

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Black Orchid on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:53pm
I love his budget strategy!

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:56pm
Lefties: Democraps in America, France in Europe.
Both are gonna lose like the Germans and Confederates.

Oh, that's why they're getting violent like Terrorists and support Hamas with the deepest sympathies. THEY'RE LOSING!!!!

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 21st, 2023 at 1:04am

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:30pm:

Quote:
Argentinian’s new president has zero tolerance for the woke left.

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1726385026164576374


Leftards ruin everything.


Don't count your chickens, Bolsenaro. This isn't about leftards verses retards. Milei's a libertarian, not a far-right populist.

He may have joined a certain bandwagon for votes, but once he pulls austerity, let's see how he goes in the polls. Milei is going to piss off a lot of people very quickly, and most of them will be his voters.

If he succeeds, all good. This is about the economy. If he doesn't, and the IMF warned that he can't, there goes whatever pantomime it is you think you're watching.

Argentina has the weight to bring other Latin American countries down with it. The IMF are legitimately worried. It's backers' loans are tied up in Argentina's survival. The Argentinian government is the biggest loans defaulters in the world, the biggest credit risk. It's been paying off debts, in one form or another, for the past 22 years.

Milei's only way out is to cut the massive subsidies the Argentinian government pays for beef and fuel. This will hit consumers, already suffering massive inflation.

Milei's not offering populist solutions, he's promised to be a complete and utter khunt. He's survived by bringing a "moral" dimension to his economic pitch, and recruiting the Catholics and fascist militants.

You?

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 21st, 2023 at 1:17am
Here's what Milei is railing against.


Quote:
Was Peronism a right-wing or left-wing movement?

I wasted about a year of my university studies in political science decades ago trying to answer this question and gave up. The answer is both and neither, which requires some explanation.

I need to explain first that an “ism” in Argentina does not mean a system of ideas even remotely akin to an ideology. Rather, it means a movement that follows a particular leader. Nineteenth century dictator and strongman Juan Manuel de Rosas, who is still controversial in Argentina, still has a following that calls itself “Rosista,” even though Rosas did not serve up an ideology but a set of gut-level slogans.

Peronism was, therefore, not about a set of ideas or an agenda, but about following a very charismatic man who invariably told his audience whatever he thought they wanted to hear.

In 1946, during his first campaign for the presidency in the historically cleanest election until that point, he told the chamber of commerce that he wanted unions in his movement so he could keep them from Communism. Much earlier, as military student in Italy when Mussolini took power, he expressed admiration for the man’s ability to mobilize thousands in the famous March on Rome.

At the same time, in order to win the support of the dispossessed majority of his people, he had to offer them something, indeed many things, that to a superficial observer look “socialist.” Peron rose from an obscure colonel who participated in a coup d’etat in 1943 thanks to his choice, when positions were being handed out to the conspiring officers, of an obscure office in the bowels of government known as the Secretariat of Labor. It was a minor position, albeit in an independent agency, but one that was not a cabinet-level ministry.

He used this position to introduce labor advances that were common elsewhere in the Western world: a whole rafter of safety and health measures for workers (including things as simple as requiring that pregnant industrial workers be allowed to work sitting on a stool rather than standing up). This is what won him, and later the various incarnations of his political parties, the undying support of unions and, more importantly, the bulk of the working class, the majority of voters. Every Peronist today has a grandparent who remembers Peron improving his lot at work or Evita bringing a Christmas basket to the poor neighborhood.

Peron also built up a huge public sector of utilities, railroads, transportation, energy and enterprises in other sectors, all of which also served as great places to give jobs to loyal Peronists.

The movement he left behind is a coalition of forces that bands together — or not — simply because, at least from 1946 to 2015, the Peronist party (which went through many names, from Laborist to Justicialist to Front for Victory) always won in open, free elections in which they fielded a candidate in earnest. There were elections in which Peronists were not allowed to field candidates and the “white,” or unmarked, ballot cast by Peronist voters “won.”

In 1973, Peron briefly welcomed the Montoneros, a left-wing urban guerrilla group of youths then inspired by Che Guevara, an Argentine, into his movement. All the while, he was dealing with the unions, which are more centrist, and his own former military colleagues, who were always dead to the right. Thus, he left behind a movement that tries to be everything to everybody, just as he was.

After Peron (and a brutal 1976–83 military dictatorship), Carlos Saúl Menem, a Peronist elected in 1989, ran his government under economic policies borrowed from Milton Friedman and dismantled the vast public holdings Peron had built up, privatizing nearly everything (even public parks!) and using the enormous bounty to sustain the fiction of parity of the peso to the U.S. dollar. By any measure, Menem is and was well right of center in his economic policy, even though he mouthed all the pretty populist words of Peron.

A Peronist successor, the late Nestor Kirchner, was elected in 2003 to clean up the inevitable mess that Menem’s smoke-and-mirror policies (a game that I admit I could not figure out at the time) brought on in 2001. When Argentines talk about 2001 with horror written all over their faces, they are not referring to September 11; instead, they mean December of that year, when their currency lost 75% of its value overnight and the country defaulted on its considerable foreign debt (most of which had been accumulated by military dictatorships). Kirchner campaigned to bring down 9% unemployment (in a country that historically had a surfeit of jobs and a lack of workers) and massive impoverishment. Kirchner and his wife, who succeeded him and was reelected, disowned the debt, put fierce controls on currency exchange to avoid having to pay usurious debt rates, and moderately rebuilt and expanded Peron’s welfare state, while bringing down unemployment and getting the country on an even keel with relatively mild Keynesian policies.

Both Menem and Kirchner, whose policies are polar opposites (respectively, right- and left-of-center) claimed the mantle of Peronism. What they meant was that they were willing to mumble the requisite pieties of the movement to do whatever they had in mind in the first place.

That, in sum, is Peronism. Both left and right, but also neither.


https://www.quora.com/Was-Peronism-a-right-wing-or-left-wing-movement

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 21st, 2023 at 1:40am
Another fun fact: Argentina is not a resource exporter, like Brazil and Russia (and Australia), but predominantly an agricultural economy.

This means its government does not have its hands on the skim - like Bolsenaro and Vlad. Quite the opposite: the government pays its cattle and wool producers.

Argentinian dictators can therefore never play the absolute boss, taking and giving to its friends. Argentinian dictators, with the exception of the Junta who used guns, have always needed to make friends.

This is why the journalist interviewing Milei seems so incredulous. It is bleedingly obvious to the Argentinian political class that this is what Argentinian politicians do. Argentinian voters are having a brief affair with a celebrity political outsider. Good luck with that.

Milei has four years to make friends. If he merely plays the khunt, he'll fail - big time.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 21st, 2023 at 8:04pm

Never heard of this guy, but JaSin, Baron, and aquascoot seem to like him a lot.

Is it safe to assume then that he rapes people?    :-/

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Frank on Nov 21st, 2023 at 9:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 8:04pm:
Never heard of this guy, but JaSin, Baron, and aquascoot seem to like him a lot.

Is it safe to assume then that he rapes people?    :-/

No.
It is safe to assume that you suck your own pizzle, though. What do you think are the geopolitical consequences of you sucking yourself here, gweggy?  Why do you do it? What's your plan with all this wet Dyson action, gweggy? What exactly are you cleaning up?



Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 21st, 2023 at 9:24pm
Quick Frank!
Failed Musician Television Boy Peccary has asked us a Question!!!
Egads! We better answer his 'question' or else, eh?!
  ;)

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Frank on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 9:40am
“Never embrace the ideals of socialism. Never allow yourselves to be seduced by the siren song of social justice.” - Javier Milei

Listen to the whole segment.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1726799232479150479

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 8:51pm
Haha, this guy's a legend.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 9:11pm
He mentions Gramsci - he knows his history.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 9:15pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 8:51pm:
Haha, this guy's a legend.


Is he a rapist?


Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 9:50pm
Failed Musician Television Boy Peccary has asked us a Question!!!
Egads! We better answer his 'question' or else, eh?!


;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 23rd, 2023 at 5:02pm

Quote:
The most lucid 3 minutes from a politician that I have ever seen.

https://twitter.com/mualphaxi/status/1726442723949814201

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 24th, 2023 at 11:48am

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 23rd, 2023 at 5:02pm:

Quote:
The most lucid 3 minutes from a politician that I have ever seen.

https://twitter.com/mualphaxi/status/1726442723949814201


Sure, but are you able to express those 3 most lucid minutes from a politician into your own words?

That's the trick, Baron.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 24th, 2023 at 11:49am

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:53pm:
I love his budget strategy!


What is it, Black?

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by JC Denton on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:24pm
libertarian weirdo

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Frank on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:35pm

JC Denton wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:24pm:
libertarian weirdo

Austrian School gaucho.


Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 28th, 2023 at 12:39am

Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:35pm:

JC Denton wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:24pm:
libertarian weirdo

Austrian School gaucho.


If Hayek couldnt save Britain and post-Soviet Russia, he's not going to have much luck saving Argentina, dear boy.

I hope I'm wrong. 50-odd percent of Gauchos have just punted on that bet.

They should have stuck with Keynes.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 28th, 2023 at 8:51pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2023 at 11:48am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 23rd, 2023 at 5:02pm:

Quote:
The most lucid 3 minutes from a politician that I have ever seen.

https://twitter.com/mualphaxi/status/1726442723949814201


Sure, but are you able to express those 3 most lucid minutes from a politician into your own words?

That's the trick, Baron.


You would have 3 flaccid minutes before popping a viagra before your trip to the Harris park dunny block.



Quote:
To me, this is
@JMilei's best speech so far, every sentence is a memorable quote!

I cut and translated it so the international audience can enjoy our Philosopher-President too

https://twitter.com/TremendaCarucha/status/1727709850723905738


Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 29th, 2023 at 12:06am

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 8:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2023 at 11:48am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 23rd, 2023 at 5:02pm:

Quote:
The most lucid 3 minutes from a politician that I have ever seen.

https://twitter.com/mualphaxi/status/1726442723949814201


Sure, but are you able to express those 3 most lucid minutes from a politician into your own words?

That's the trick, Baron.


You would have 3 flaccid minutes before popping a viagra before your trip to the Harris park dunny block.


[quote]
To me, this is
@JMilei's best speech so far, every sentence is a memorable quote!

I cut and translated it so the international audience can enjoy our Philosopher-President too

https://twitter.com/TremendaCarucha/status/1727709850723905738

[/quote]

Sorry, Baron, me no speaka da English. Which bit is your own words?

To me this is?

Now, if you invited me to say why I thought a political speech was lucid, I'd be more than willing to spray. You, on the other hand, seem to have an aversion to expressing your opinion, and that's okay.

Ever get the feeling you've been to that toilet block?

Did you take a number one or two?

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Sprintcyclist on Nov 29th, 2023 at 2:40am
I quite agree with him.
The ideas that everyone is equal and should be well fed, medical care, rights to travel etc etc etc are enticing and strike a chord of justice.
Unfortunately that is not the reality of the world.
In reality, no-one has a right to anything.

'All men are equal, it's just that some men are more equal than others ......'
Animal farm



Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Frank on Nov 29th, 2023 at 9:23am

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 8:51pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 23rd, 2023 at 5:02pm:

Quote:
The most lucid 3 minutes from a politician that I have ever seen.

https://twitter.com/mualphaxi/status/1726442723949814201

/quote]

Sure, but are you able to express those 3 most lucid minutes from a politician into your own words?

That's the trick, Baron.


You would have 3 flaccid minutes before popping a viagra before your trip to the Harris park dunny block.


[quote]
To me, this is
@JMilei's best speech so far, every sentence is a memorable quote!

I cut and translated it so the international audience can enjoy our Philosopher-President too

https://twitter.com/TremendaCarucha/status/1727709850723905738

[/quote]
Tremendous energy and a clear, consistent rejection of every bien pensant pwogwessive assumption, consensus, Guardianisa pouting.  Thomas Sowell with tremendous vim.

No wonder the wee paki arse bandit is discombobulated, waiving like a  disoriented Causescu from the balcony.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by MeisterEckhart on Nov 29th, 2023 at 10:08am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 29th, 2023 at 2:40am:
I quite agree with him.
The ideas that everyone is equal and should be well fed, medical care, rights to travel etc etc etc are enticing and strike a chord of justice.
Unfortunately that is not the reality of the world.
In reality, no-one has a right to anything.

And in Argentina's case, a nation that should be as wealthy as Australia, has been crippled through multiple bankruptcies and hyperinflation (and over-reliance on the US dollar to bail it out) by Peronist policy for nearly 80 years.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Frank on Dec 6th, 2023 at 6:04am
Social justice is unjust - it negates equality before the law, ie justice.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1731994231370035671

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Frank on Dec 6th, 2023 at 6:05am

Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2023 at 6:04am:
Social justice is unjust - it negates equality before the law, ie justice.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1731994231370035671


Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Dec 6th, 2023 at 6:13am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 29th, 2023 at 10:08am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 29th, 2023 at 2:40am:
I quite agree with him.
The ideas that everyone is equal and should be well fed, medical care, rights to travel etc etc etc are enticing and strike a chord of justice.
Unfortunately that is not the reality of the world.
In reality, no-one has a right to anything.

And in Argentina's case, a nation that should be as wealthy as Australia, has been crippled through multiple bankruptcies and hyperinflation (and over-reliance on the US dollar to bail it out) by Peronist policy for nearly 80 years.


America uses other nations as its 'Experiments' and I have no doubt the USA put the Lefties up to it in Argentina, just like they have 'made' Dictators in other countries like Chile, Columbia and Venezuela (twice). They're just the 'proven' ones.

As to 'where all the money & wealth went to'?
...well, Joe spent over x4 four times for his campaign against Trump than Trump did. Where did he get the money for that? Mercantile Credits? :-?

Under Biden: USA 'drains' other nations.
Yes, via Albanese - they even drain Australia as its 51st State.

I wish Argentina all the best for their Economy.
It didn't have to be that way.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 6th, 2023 at 5:51pm

Frank wrote on Nov 29th, 2023 at 9:23am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 8:51pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 23rd, 2023 at 5:02pm:

Quote:
The most lucid 3 minutes from a politician that I have ever seen.

https://twitter.com/mualphaxi/status/1726442723949814201

/quote]

Sure, but are you able to express those 3 most lucid minutes from a politician into your own words?

That's the trick, Baron.


You would have 3 flaccid minutes before popping a viagra before your trip to the Harris park dunny block.


[quote]
To me, this is
@JMilei's best speech so far, every sentence is a memorable quote!

I cut and translated it so the international audience can enjoy our Philosopher-President too

https://twitter.com/TremendaCarucha/status/1727709850723905738

Tremendous energy and a clear, consistent rejection of every bien pensant pwogwessive assumption, consensus, Guardianisa pouting.  Thomas Sowell with tremendous vim.

No wonder the wee paki arse bandit is discombobulated, waiving like a  disoriented Causescu from the balcony. [/quote]

Oh ya, but it beats the Gaddafi treatment with the gold pistol and the impromptu rectal examination.

Resemble anyone we know, old boy?
images__86__003.jpeg (20 KB | 12 )

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Frank on Dec 6th, 2023 at 9:47pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 6th, 2023 at 5:51pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29th, 2023 at 9:23am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 28th, 2023 at 8:51pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 23rd, 2023 at 5:02pm:

Quote:
The most lucid 3 minutes from a politician that I have ever seen.

https://twitter.com/mualphaxi/status/1726442723949814201

/quote]

Sure, but are you able to express those 3 most lucid minutes from a politician into your own words?

That's the trick, Baron.


You would have 3 flaccid minutes before popping a viagra before your trip to the Harris park dunny block.


[quote]
To me, this is
@JMilei's best speech so far, every sentence is a memorable quote!

I cut and translated it so the international audience can enjoy our Philosopher-President too

https://twitter.com/TremendaCarucha/status/1727709850723905738

Tremendous energy and a clear, consistent rejection of every bien pensant pwogwessive assumption, consensus, Guardianisa pouting.  Thomas Sowell with tremendous vim.

No wonder the wee paki arse bandit is discombobulated, waiving like a  disoriented Causescu from the balcony.


Oh ya, but it beats the Gaddafi treatment with the gold pistol and the impromptu rectal examination.

Resemble anyone we know, old boy?[/quote]

Good post paki, your self-recognition is well picked up on the Caucescu- Labia link.

Clever boy - I'm not misgendering you, arse bandit, am I?

Anyway. Yes, it reminds me of you, well done on getting the resemblance.
Ten points for the contestant from Pakistan.






Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 13th, 2023 at 9:59pm

Quote:
REMARKABLE! In his first act, newly sworn President of Argentina, Javier Milei, signs an executive order reducing the Argentine government from 21 Departments to 9. A major reduction of bureaucracy and overhead. Impressive.

https://twitter.com/FernandoAmandi/status/1733998465804341333


We need to elect someone like this President who will take a chainsaw to reduce Government departments.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 14th, 2023 at 12:25am

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 13th, 2023 at 9:59pm:

Quote:
REMARKABLE! In his first act, newly sworn President of Argentina, Javier Milei, signs an executive order reducing the Argentine government from 21 Departments to 9. A major reduction of bureaucracy and overhead. Impressive.

https://twitter.com/FernandoAmandi/status/1733998465804341333


We need to elect someone like this President who will take a chainsaw to reduce Government departments.


Oh? So we need to curb 38.8% inflation and 8.4% unemployment, do we?

We currently have a government doing everything they can to keep spending down. This is due to the independent Reserve Bank of Australia threatening to put interest rates up. The RBA is now warning Treasury not to give tax cuts to the rich for this very reason.

You don't need a chainsaw to cut a daisy, dear. Comparing the Australian economy to Argentina's is like comparing sheep to goats.

Strangely, both of our economies once relied upon the former. We've moved on.

Ever get the feeling you've been fleeced?

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by A.I. on Dec 14th, 2023 at 2:12am
Karnal taps into his feelings a lot.
Doesn't quite turn the tap on when it comes to intelligence though.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 14th, 2023 at 10:35pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 14th, 2023 at 2:12am:
Karnal taps into his feelings a lot.
Doesn't quite turn the tap on when it comes to intelligence though.


Karnal was OK before i think he let TDS rot his brain.

:)

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 14th, 2023 at 10:37pm

Quote:
Fernando Amandi Sr.🌐
@FernandoAmandi

REMARKABLE! In his first act, newly sworn President of Argentina, Javier Milei, signs an executive order reducing the Argentine government from 21 Departments to 9. A major reduction of bureaucracy and overhead. Impressive.

https://twitter.com/FernandoAmandi/status/1733998465804341333


We need someone to abolish and reduce bureaucracy and overheads here.

We are stuck with useless woke leftist crap that is costing taxpayers a fortune. The voice would have been another layer of woke racist bullshit.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 14th, 2023 at 11:16pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 14th, 2023 at 10:35pm:

Jasin wrote on Dec 14th, 2023 at 2:12am:
Karnal taps into his feelings a lot.
Doesn't quite turn the tap on when it comes to intelligence though.


Karnal was OK before i think he let TDS rot his brain.

:)


Oh? Don't want to say, eh?

What's the matter, Baron? Cat got your tongue?

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 17th, 2023 at 3:42pm

Quote:
IMF Spokesperson Statement on Argentina

December 12, 2023

Washington, DC:  Julie Kozack, Director of Communications at the International Monetary Fund (IMF), issued the following statement today:

“IMF staff welcome the measures announced earlier today by Argentina’s new Economy Minister, Luis Caputo. These bold initial actions aim to significantly improve public finances in a manner that protects the most vulnerable in society and strengthen the foreign exchange regime. Their decisive implementation will help stabilize the economy and set the basis for more sustainable and private-sector led growth.

IMF staff and the new Argentine authorities will work expeditiously in the period ahead. Following serious policy setbacks over the past few months, this new package provides a good foundation for further discussions to bring the existing Fund-supported program back on track.”

https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2023/12/12/pr23441-imf-spokesperson-statement-on-argentina#


:)

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by A.I. on Dec 17th, 2023 at 3:44pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 14th, 2023 at 11:16pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 14th, 2023 at 10:35pm:

Jasin wrote on Dec 14th, 2023 at 2:12am:
Karnal taps into his feelings a lot.
Doesn't quite turn the tap on when it comes to intelligence though.


Karnal was OK before i think he let TDS rot his brain.

:)


Oh? Don't want to say, eh?

What's the matter, Baron? Cat got your tongue?



Whatever you do Baron.
Don't let Karnal entice you into playing 'tongueys' with him.
You never know what he's been licking of late!?

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 17th, 2023 at 3:52pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 3:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 14th, 2023 at 11:16pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 14th, 2023 at 10:35pm:

Jasin wrote on Dec 14th, 2023 at 2:12am:
Karnal taps into his feelings a lot.
Doesn't quite turn the tap on when it comes to intelligence though.


Karnal was OK before i think he let TDS rot his brain.

:)


Oh? Don't want to say, eh?

What's the matter, Baron? Cat got your tongue?



Whatever you do Baron.
Don't let Karnal entice you into playing 'tongueys' with him.
You never know what he's been licking of late!?


I wouldn't shake hands with some of these wanker trolls.

The trolls from mongs forum are not worth responding to.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 17th, 2023 at 4:17pm
He's right, Baron. Whatever you do, don't explain why you think Australia should ape tbe untested policies of Argentinian populists.

Much easier to just mouth generalised, unworkable slogans, which is why you posted this.

Never fear, while you throw hissy fits and krap on, we'll keep the government going and the lights on. You're grateful for this, I'm sure.

Don't cry for me, Argentina, no?

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Frank on Dec 17th, 2023 at 7:03pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 4:17pm:
He's right, Baron. Whatever you do, don't explain why you think Australia should ape tbe untested policies of Argentinian populists.

Much easier to just mouth generalised, unworkable slogans, which is why you posted this.

Never fear, while you throw hissy fits and krap on, we'll keep the government going and the lights on. You're grateful for this, I'm sure.

Don't cry for me, Argentina, no?

YOU are talking generalised, cliched, mindless bollocks, paki, as always. Grimacing, tapdancing to the tune only you hear. Sad old ****.


HE is not, he is now running a country. So let's see if he can make it work, if Argentinians buy it and go with it.

You don't have to ALWAYS tell us what the word is in the toilet blocks and mosques on your street. We get you live there, we get you think they speak for you. But Argentina - or America, Australia, Europe etc - are not about the Sydney Push, or suburban arse banditry with the hairy beasts from the Middle East in toilet blocks. Just because YOU suck, we are not like you.

You are not validated, wee arse bandit.




Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by A.I. on Dec 17th, 2023 at 7:11pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 4:17pm:
He's right, Baron. Whatever you do, don't explain why you think Australia should ape tbe untested policies of Argentinian populists.

Much easier to just mouth generalised, unworkable slogans, which is why you posted this.

Never fear, while you throw hissy fits and krap on, we'll keep the government going and the lights on. You're grateful for this, I'm sure.

Don't cry for me, Argentina, no?


No. More like don't socialise on Ozpol with a dirty old sex tourist.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 18th, 2023 at 1:13am

Frank wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 7:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 4:17pm:
He's right, Baron. Whatever you do, don't explain why you think Australia should ape tbe untested policies of Argentinian populists.

Much easier to just mouth generalised, unworkable slogans, which is why you posted this.

Never fear, while you throw hissy fits and krap on, we'll keep the government going and the lights on. You're grateful for this, I'm sure.

Don't cry for me, Argentina, no?

YOU are talking generalised, cliched, mindless bollocks, paki, as always. Grimacing, tapdancing to the tune only you hear. Sad old ****.


HE is not, he is now running a country. So let's see if he can make it work, if Argentinians buy it and go with it.

You don't have to ALWAYS tell us what the word is in the toilet blocks and mosques on your street. We get you live there, we get you think they speak for you. But Argentina - or America, Australia, Europe etc - are not about the Sydney Push, or suburban arse banditry with the hairy beasts from the Middle East in toilet blocks. Just because YOU suck, we are not like you.

You are not validated, wee arse bandit.


My country is validated, dear boy, because we don't have 38% inflation. We're validated because the AUD holds firm. We're validated, more than anything, by the voters of Australia, who want government services such as health care, education, child care, aged care and disability funding.

If you don't want that, all good, piss off back to where you come from. I believe your fine country taxes your wages 52 to 55% to fund your services, and nobody complains.

That explains why you're discussing toilet blocks, no?

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 18th, 2023 at 1:17am

Jasin wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 7:11pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 4:17pm:
He's right, Baron. Whatever you do, don't explain why you think Australia should ape tbe untested policies of Argentinian populists.

Much easier to just mouth generalised, unworkable slogans, which is why you posted this.

Never fear, while you throw hissy fits and krap on, we'll keep the government going and the lights on. You're grateful for this, I'm sure.

Don't cry for me, Argentina, no?


No. More like don't socialise on Ozpol with a dirty old sex tourist.


We socialise with all our friends here, JaSin. If you dont like it, feel free to join the old boy.

I'm sure they'll welcome you with open arms over in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, no?

I've heard they have plenty of your type there now.

You?

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Frank on Dec 19th, 2023 at 1:45pm
In 1880 Argentina was the world’s sixth richest country per capita, today its 8 million private sector workers must feed themselves, their families, and 20 million public servants, retired pensioners, and 7 per cent jobless. That ratio is the Gordian Knot, the diabolical trap into which the nation has fallen. With fertility below replacement, the few young professionals of talent and ambition tend to leave in search of a better deal, sharpening the fiscal pincer for those who remain on a minimum wage of AU$ 510.65 per month. 40 per cent of the country lives in poverty, and like the sans culottes of the French Revolution, the Argentine descamisados (without shirts) have raised a curious eyebrow to the crazy anarcho-capitalist – something different at least, their plight can’t be much worse.
Ross Cameron.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 19th, 2023 at 7:53pm

Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2023 at 1:45pm:
In 1880 Argentina was the world’s sixth richest country per capita, today its 8 million private sector workers must feed themselves, their families, and 20 million public servants, retired pensioners, and 7 per cent jobless. That ratio is the Gordian Knot, the diabolical trap into which the nation has fallen. With fertility below replacement, the few young professionals of talent and ambition tend to leave in search of a better deal, sharpening the fiscal pincer for those who remain on a minimum wage of AU$ 510.65 per month. 40 per cent of the country lives in poverty, and like the sans culottes of the French Revolution, the Argentine descamisados (without shirts) have raised a curious eyebrow to the crazy anarcho-capitalist – something different at least, their plight can’t be much worse.
Ross Cameron.


I know, right? Whatever could have happened?

Only the rise of Fascism, your very own political philosophy.

Peronism n: a distinct brand of old boy Fascism - Oxford Dictionary.

https://academic.oup.com/book/7298/chapter-abstract/152020225?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Frank on Dec 19th, 2023 at 9:53pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 19th, 2023 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2023 at 1:45pm:
In 1880 Argentina was the world’s sixth richest country per capita, today its 8 million private sector workers must feed themselves, their families, and 20 million public servants, retired pensioners, and 7 per cent jobless. That ratio is the Gordian Knot, the diabolical trap into which the nation has fallen. With fertility below replacement, the few young professionals of talent and ambition tend to leave in search of a better deal, sharpening the fiscal pincer for those who remain on a minimum wage of AU$ 510.65 per month. 40 per cent of the country lives in poverty, and like the sans culottes of the French Revolution, the Argentine descamisados (without shirts) have raised a curious eyebrow to the crazy anarcho-capitalist – something different at least, their plight can’t be much worse.
Ross Cameron.


I know, right? Whatever could have happened?

Only the rise of Fascism, your very own political philosophy.

Peronism n: a distinct brand of old boy Fascism - Oxford Dictionary.

https://academic.oup.com/book/7298/chapter-abstract/152020225?redirectedFrom=fulltext

So the guy is not a Peronist. You are, wee arse burglar.



Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 19th, 2023 at 11:20pm

Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2023 at 9:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 19th, 2023 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2023 at 1:45pm:
In 1880 Argentina was the world’s sixth richest country per capita, today its 8 million private sector workers must feed themselves, their families, and 20 million public servants, retired pensioners, and 7 per cent jobless. That ratio is the Gordian Knot, the diabolical trap into which the nation has fallen. With fertility below replacement, the few young professionals of talent and ambition tend to leave in search of a better deal, sharpening the fiscal pincer for those who remain on a minimum wage of AU$ 510.65 per month. 40 per cent of the country lives in poverty, and like the sans culottes of the French Revolution, the Argentine descamisados (without shirts) have raised a curious eyebrow to the crazy anarcho-capitalist – something different at least, their plight can’t be much worse.
Ross Cameron.


I know, right? Whatever could have happened?

Only the rise of Fascism, your very own political philosophy.

Peronism n: a distinct brand of old boy Fascism - Oxford Dictionary.

https://academic.oup.com/book/7298/chapter-abstract/152020225?redirectedFrom=fulltext

So the guy is not a Peronist. You are, wee arse burglar.


No, old boy, you're a naughty old Fascist, by your own admission. There are five fingers, as every schoolboy knows.

Ever get the feeling you've been fisted?

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Frank on Dec 26th, 2023 at 10:29am
Felices fiestas, y ojo con hacerte comunista 🧐

Happy holidays, and be careful not to become a communist 🧐


Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 26th, 2023 at 6:00pm

Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 10:29am:
Felices fiestas, y ojo con hacerte comunista 🧐

Happy holidays, and be careful not to become a communist 🧐



Beating the Argentinian people with a Billy club. Freeeeeedom, innit.

Told you.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/21/argentina-president-javier-milei-economic-policies-protests

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by JC Denton on Dec 26th, 2023 at 6:15pm
i don't pretend to know anything about argentina

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Frank on Dec 26th, 2023 at 7:00pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 6:00pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 10:29am:
Felices fiestas, y ojo con hacerte comunista 🧐

Happy holidays, and be careful not to become a communist 🧐



Beating the Argentinian people with a Billy club. Freeeeeedom, innit.

:'( :'( :'(


Beating the Argentian people!!!  :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by John Smith on Dec 26th, 2023 at 7:09pm

Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 7:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 6:00pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 10:29am:
Felices fiestas, y ojo con hacerte comunista 🧐

Happy holidays, and be careful not to become a communist 🧐



Beating the Argentinian people with a Billy club. Freeeeeedom, innit.

:'( :'( :'(


Beating the Argentian people!!!  :'( :'( :'( :'(


Give him time. 

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 27th, 2023 at 12:39am

JC Denton wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 6:15pm:
i don't pretend to know anything about argentina


I don't know anything about art, JC, but I know what I like.

The old boy doesn't know anything about kneecapping cunts with a baseball bat, but that doesn't mean he's not happy to see it get done.

You?

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 27th, 2023 at 8:39pm
:)
leftards.jpg (22 KB | 7 )

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 27th, 2023 at 8:54pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 8:39pm:
:)


Is he talking about Trump?


Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 27th, 2023 at 8:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 8:54pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 8:39pm:
:)


Is he talking about Trump?


The rapist, I mean.

He obviously wouldn't be the tax payer.


Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 21st, 2024 at 10:26pm
Argentinas President flies commerical airlines a man of the people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKLOTuN-Cdc

Argentina just posted a budget surplus getting rid of all the snouts in trough means taxes can be spent on things that help the country.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Frank on Mar 19th, 2024 at 7:21pm
Australia is heading Argentina's way.


Peronism, like our own modern Labor and Liberal parties, treats economics as an emotional or sentimental pursuit. Peronism put “fairness” — a terrifying word when spoken by social justice types — at its economic core. “The two arms of Peronism are social justice and social help,” President Peron wrote. “With them, we can give a hug of justice and love to the people.”

He gave them, through applications of Peronism that far outlived himself, hyperinflation and other elements of economic devastation—all in the name of fairness. For example, hugely expensive electricity bills were judged to be unfair. A sensible response to this might be reducing the cost of electricity production by smashing unions and such. But Argentina went with fairness instead, which means subsidies.

This causes absurd outcomes. “The average European spends around US$40 a month on electricity,” the Economist noted last year. “The average Argentine spends around US$5—eight times less.” But with all those paybacks flying around, Argentinian taxpayers are hammered each year by an electricity subsidy cost of US$12.5 billion.

Australia’s taxpayers are copping the same treatment thanks to our various governments’ also equating subsidies with fairness. Electricity bill relief payments of up to $500 were delivered last year by a federal government that by its anti-coal actions is causing those bills to surge. It’s a Buenos Aires squeeze play.
Tim Blair

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Jasin on Mar 19th, 2024 at 7:41pm
Bring in Voldermort Dutton.
Out with Potter Albanese.

In culturally backwards Australia. Dutton is the good guy, Albanese the baddie.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Baronvonrort on Apr 18th, 2024 at 8:34pm

Quote:
Public servants will not receive salary increases greater than those received by retirees.

If the Anti-Caste Law proposed by Milei is approved, employees in the Executive, Judicial and Legislative Branch will receive the SAME INCREASE as retirees.

Excellent measure.

https://twitter.com/BowTiedMara/status/1777065523957690474


We should do something similar here. Politicians are public servants.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Jasin on Apr 18th, 2024 at 9:32pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 21st, 2024 at 10:26pm:
Argentinas President flies commerical airlines a man of the people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKLOTuN-Cdc

Argentina just posted a budget surplus getting rid of all the snouts in trough means taxes can be spent on things that help the country.


Good post. About time Argentina gets a pro-Political President after decades of Lefty Media fakes who used Argentina as a Lefty guinea pig of their failures.

They originally wanted to use Argentina as the 'crash test dummy' for the Cashless Society, but now it looks like they will use us here in Australia to try it out on.  :P

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Baronvonrort on Apr 18th, 2024 at 11:10pm

Jasin wrote on Apr 18th, 2024 at 9:32pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 21st, 2024 at 10:26pm:
Argentinas President flies commerical airlines a man of the people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKLOTuN-Cdc

Argentina just posted a budget surplus getting rid of all the snouts in trough means taxes can be spent on things that help the country.


Good post. About time Argentina gets a pro-Political President after decades of Lefty Media fakes who used Argentina as a Lefty guinea pig of their failures.

They originally wanted to use Argentina as the 'crash test dummy' for the Cashless Society, but now it looks like they will use us here in Australia to try it out on.  :P


Can you imagine the difference if AnAl took a commercial flight?

People would be telling AnAl to GFY

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Jasin on Apr 18th, 2024 at 11:17pm
;D
Yes they would!
I would yell out "I don't watch the 'Voice' with you and Delta."

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 30th, 2025 at 11:57pm

Quote:
Real GDP growth
Annual percent change

Argentina 5.5%

Australia 1.6%

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDP_RPCH@WEO/OEMDC/ADVEC/WEOWORLD


Inflation down GDP up Argentina is going well after cutting government spending on woke crap

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Jasin on Jul 1st, 2025 at 8:17am
Yes Baron. Argentina is feeling much better after ditching the Leftism that ruined it.
Sadly, we have it now.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Frank on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:11am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 30th, 2025 at 11:57pm:

Quote:
Real GDP growth
Annual percent change

Argentina 5.5%

Australia 1.6%

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDP_RPCH@WEO/OEMDC/ADVEC/WEOWORLD


Inflation down GDP up Argentina is going well after cutting government spending on woke crap


Jim Chalmers should ignore the ‘gurus’ and look to Argentina for economic tips

Adam Creighton

Thank goodness Argentina’s charismatic, libertarian President, Javier Milei, didn’t listen to mainstream economists. He appears single-handedly to have revived his nation’s economic fortunes, after decades of misery, by doing precisely the opposite of what some of the world’s most eminent economists advised.

If only his reforms would be a template for our own political and economic elite, collectively addicted to ever more intrusive regulation and public spending.

Ahead of his election in November 2023, 170 economists from around the world, including such luminaries as France’s Thomas Piketty and India’s Jayati Ghosh, warned Milei’s supposedly “extreme right” proposals centred on slashing regulation and public spending would cause “devastation” and “social chaos”.

“A major reduction in government spending would increase already high levels of poverty and inequality and could result in significantly increased social tensions and conflict,” they wrote. His agenda was “fraught with risks that makes (it) potentially very harmful for the Argentine economy and the Argentine people”.

Milei’s administration slashed the number of ministries from 19 to nine, including departments of climate change, diversity and “social development”, insidious fonts of ridiculous regulations the world over. The turnaround in Argentina’s misfortunes has been stunning, even surprising his supporters.

In the second quarter of this year the economy grew 7.6 per cent, practically all of it an increase in GDP per capita given the nation’s relatively slow population growth. Milei has managed all this without resorting to the tried and failed method of endless deficit spending, actually overseeing a budget surplus in 2024 of 0.3 per cent of GDP.

Yes, there has been the odd street protest organised by militant unions, but they appear to have ignored the fact the poverty rate has declined sharply too, from 53 per cent in the first half of last year to 38 per cent in the second half. Even UNICEF, hardly a hotbed of libertarian thought, conceded in May that 1.7 million children had been lifted out of poverty since Milei took office.

“The disgusting liberals, the politically correct people, the ‘cool’ leftists, the ‘sensitive’ ones, those who love the poor so much that all they do is multiply them; they all would tell us that we were going to generate an explosion of poverty … the ‘insensitive libertarians’ lifted more than 10 million people out of poverty,” the President said when that data emerged.

His angry, mocking tone is understandable in a nation, once among the richest in the world, that had fallen to well below 50th by the time he won office after decades of socialist meddling.

Perhaps the most extraordinary results have occurred in the housing market. Milei abolished rent controls last year amid predictable fears those nasty landlords would jack up rents. On the contrary, supply of rentable dwellings almost tripled and rents actually fell.

...
None of this is to smear all economists or economics; indeed, Milei was an economist himself. But it’s a reminder to beware conventional wisdom, and the inevitable tendency of economists in the modern era to have a bias toward bigger government, which often through academic grants, commissions and salary underpins their livelihoods.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by freediver on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:42am

Quote:
Yes, there has been the odd street protest organised by militant unions, but they appear to have ignored the fact the poverty rate has declined sharply too, from 53 per cent in the first half of last year to 38 per cent in the second half. Even UNICEF, hardly a hotbed of libertarian thought, conceded in May that 1.7 million children had been lifted out of poverty since Milei took office.


The cost of most union action is to increase unemployment, and thus poverty. Unions and their supporters are good at ignoring this.

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by Gnads on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:56pm

freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:42am:

Quote:
Yes, there has been the odd street protest organised by militant unions, but they appear to have ignored the fact the poverty rate has declined sharply too, from 53 per cent in the first half of last year to 38 per cent in the second half. Even UNICEF, hardly a hotbed of libertarian thought, conceded in May that 1.7 million children had been lifted out of poverty since Milei took office.


The cost of most union action is to increase unemployment, and thus poverty. Unions and their supporters are good at ignoring this.


Yeah yeah - same old bollocks.

Why are employer groups in Unions?

Are they increasing poverty when the rationalise/downsize/offshore/introduce robot technology or submit claims to Fair Work against EBA negotiations?

Title: Re: Argentina has a new President
Post by freediver on Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:01pm

Quote:
Yeah yeah - same old bollocks.


Do you disagree, or are you just having an emotional reaction?

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