Speaking on Joe Rogan’s podcast last year, Peterson
claimed the climate was too complex to be modelled
accurately, which was quickly shot down by scientists
who said his remarks were "ill-informed" and he
appeared to have "zero expertise" on climate change.

They described Peterson’s comments as "stunningly
ignorant" and said he had fundamentally misunderstood
the concept of climate modelling.

Dr Sarah Perkins-Kirkpatrick, a climate scientist at the
University of New South Wales in Canberra, said
Peterson’s description of how climate models work
was "fundamentally wrong". While weather forecasts
do become less accurate the further out they go, this
was "a different process to climate modelling".

"He seems to think we model the future climate the
same way we do the weather. He sounds intelligent,
but he’s completely wrong", she said.

Professor John Abraham, a climate scientist at the
University of St Thomas in Minnesota, said the episode
was "a word salad of nonsense spoken by people
who have no sense when it comes to climate...
Peterson displays a near complete misunderstanding
of climate change, and the tools climate scientists
use to understand what is happening to our planet".

—Obviously, as suggested by many commentators,
   Peterson is a self-aggrandising buffoon who thinks    
   he knows a lot about everything, but in actuality
   knows little about nothing much.

Peterson is an expert on matters regarding the human condition where he focuses on areas that upset the woke brigade.

When he says he smells BS regarding some of the personalities pushing the certainty of climate models, he's probably right.

So if the climate models are so good, why is it necessary for the IPCC to rely on averages across the models. CMIP6 are, like CMIP5 running too hot.

"Use of ‘too hot’ climate models exaggerates impacts of global warming"

"One study suggests Arctic rainfall will become dominant in the 2060s, decades earlier than expected. Another claims air pollution from forest fires in the western United States could triple by 2100. A third says a mass ocean extinction could arrive in just a few centuries.

All three studies, published in the past year, rely on projections of the future produced by some of the world’s next-generation climate models. But even the modelmakers acknowledge that many of these models have a glaring problem: predicting a future that gets too hot too fast. Although modelmakers are adapting to this reality, researchers who use the model projections to gauge the impacts of climate change have yet to follow suit. "

...

"Scientists need to get much choosier in how they use model results, a group of climate scientists argues in a commentary published today in Nature. Researchers should no longer simply use the average of all the climate model projections, which can result in global temperatures by 2100 up to 0.7°C warmer than an estimate from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). “We need to use a slightly different approach,” says Zeke Hausfather, climate research lead at payment services company Stripe and lead author of the commentary. “We must move away from the naïve idea of model democracy.” Instead, he and his colleagues call for a model meritocracy, prioritizing, at times, results from models known to have more realistic warming rates."

https://www.science.org/content/article/use-too-hot-climate-models-exaggerates-impacts-global-warming

Gordon wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 4:26pm:

Peterson is an expert on matters regarding the human condition where he focuses on areas that upset the woke brigade. When he says he smells BS regarding some of the personalities pushing the certainty of climate models, he's probably right.

Quote:

Peterson is

A waste of space and time.

That girl could sell me the Brooklyn Bridge under water....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdPw6wJUEAA2XKC.jpg

"scientists
who said his remarks were "ill-informed" and he
appeared to have "zero expertise" on climate change."

Startling refuting evidence there.... dividie would be proud of those scientists.... like them, he imagines a negative assertion to be 'refuting' ... it's a common disease these days....

jordan probably shouldnt be that specific but he is correct in that we are not being told the truth.

here is the truth.

my 90 horse power tractor runs on fossil fuels.
1 horse can do the work of about 8 humans
so to replace that fossil fuel with human power would require 720 people (maybe white knight and 719 of his friends) to come  and work the fields. (as if that would ever happen)

fossil fuel is so amazing that our entire prosperity is built upon it.

if you want to reduce it, you have to accept a reduction in standard of living and a massive one

politicians need to come clean.


"hey citizens, you will be living in a 1 bedroom flat with your family, no air con, a shared car, no trips on the weekend, forget overseas travel, you will be eating simple locally produced foods.
clothing rationing, less travel for entertainment, energy rationing especially at night."


california is the most green state in the usa.
to recharge their EV's (which comprise less then 5 % of vehicles), they have to buy in power at night from ither states and that power is nearly all fossil fuel produced.

so their EV;s are being powered by....fossil fuel.


we will be using fossil fuel for a  long long time because NO politician is going to tell entitled westerners that they have to GREATLY reduce their standard of living

peterson is  irrelevant,

changing over to green energy is going to be an epic fail for the immediate future and the climate is not going to be saved by the sacrifice of people who dont know how to sacrifice

Dnarever wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 5:22pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 9th, 2023 at 4:26pm: Peterson is an expert on matters regarding the human condition where he focuses on areas that upset the woke brigade. When he says he smells BS regarding some of the personalities pushing the certainty of climate models, he's probably right. Quote: Peterson is A waste of space and time.

Such a nuanced take on a very complex person.

He's diminished by woke lefties like you because of his conservative views. Were you a professor at Harvard, do you consider yourself one of his intellectual peers?

https://youtu.be/v3Bu7oCB8_k?si=dIE7u7BjR5MYQEOc

Peterson's pretty insightful when it comes to psychology and general social issues. He's got a pretty good handle on how resentment festers and causes all kinds of psychological and social issues.

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 3:31pm:

Speaking on Joe Rogan’s podcast last year, Peterson claimed the climate was too complex to be modelled accurately, which was quickly shot down by scientists who said his remarks were "ill-informed" and he appeared to have "zero expertise" on climate change. They described Peterson’s comments as "stunningly ignorant" and said he had fundamentally misunderstood the concept of climate modelling. Dr Sarah Perkins-Kirkpatrick, a climate scientist at the University of New South Wales in Canberra, said Peterson’s description of how climate models work was "fundamentally wrong". While weather forecasts do become less accurate the further out they go, this was "a different process to climate modelling". "He seems to think we model the future climate the same way we do the weather. He sounds intelligent, but he’s completely wrong", she said. Professor John Abraham, a climate scientist at the University of St Thomas in Minnesota, said the episode was "a word salad of nonsense spoken by people who have no sense when it comes to climate... Peterson displays a near complete misunderstanding of climate change, and the tools climate scientists use to understand what is happening to our planet". —Obviously, as suggested by many commentators,    Peterson is a self-aggrandising buffoon who thinks        he knows a lot about everything, but in actuality    knows little about nothing much.

Peterson must be right, then.

The denouncers have nuffin but denunciation.  Scientist though they may be.


And old Guff is hot for this kind of denouncy crap. Every day is a slow day in outer eastern southern peripheral Gippsland, with only the NYT to keep him connected to the "world" of pouting resentment.
Sadness.

Gordon wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 4:26pm:

Peterson is an expert on matters regarding the human condition where he focuses on areas that upset the woke brigade. When he says he smells BS regarding some of the personalities pushing the certainty of climate models, he's probably right.

https://i.postimg.cc/Tw4HvdK9/97.jpg

Good to see the junkie still pretending he has a clue. The right wing nut jobs need their hero now that thrumpy is going to jail :D

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 10:20pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 9th, 2023 at 4:26pm: Peterson is an expert on matters regarding the human condition where he focuses on areas that upset the woke brigade. When he says he smells BS regarding some of the personalities pushing the certainty of climate models, he's probably right. https://i.pstimg.cc/Tw4HvdK9/97.jpg

You know Peterson makes his living from  right wing nut jobs, right? Way to shoot yourself in the foot. :D :D :D

Gordon wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 5:44pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 9th, 2023 at 5:22pm: Gordon wrote on Nov 9th, 2023 at 4:26pm: Peterson is an expert on matters regarding the human condition where he focuses on areas that upset the woke brigade. When he says he smells BS regarding some of the personalities pushing the certainty of climate models, he's probably right. Quote: Peterson is A waste of space and time. Such a nuanced take on a very complex person. He's diminished by woke lefties like you because of his conservative views. Were you a professor at Harvard, do you consider yourself one of his intellectual peers? https://youtu.be/v3Bu7oCB8_k?si=dIE7u7BjR5MYQEOc

I'm sorry, what precisely makes Peterson more knowledgeable on climate change that DNA? That's not what he's got his credentials for.

And here we have experts from multiple areas of study saying Peterson was, again, talking out of his arse and stating clearly how and why ... and you rush to his defence why? Because you like how Peterson slams "woke" people?

Could you be any more shallow and transparent?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 9:12pm:

Peterson's pretty insightful when it comes to psychology and general social issues. He's got a pretty good handle on how resentment festers and causes all kinds of psychological and social issues.

Peterson is resentment and psychological issues personified.

mothra wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 8:08am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 9th, 2023 at 9:12pm: Peterson's pretty insightful when it comes to psychology and general social issues. He's got a pretty good handle on how resentment festers and causes all kinds of psychological and social issues. Peterson is resentment and psychological issues personified.

:D :D

Look who's talking!!!!!   ;D ;D

Frank wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 9:28am:

mothra wrote on Nov 10th, 2023 at 8:08am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 9th, 2023 at 9:12pm: Peterson's pretty insightful when it comes to psychology and general social issues. He's got a pretty good handle on how resentment festers and causes all kinds of psychological and social issues. Peterson is resentment and psychological issues personified. :D :D Look who's talking!!!!!   ;D ;D

Yet i can discourse with you, anathema that you are, without bursting into tears.

Puts me a notch or so up from old Jordo, eh what.

mothra wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 8:08am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 9th, 2023 at 9:12pm: Peterson's pretty insightful when it comes to psychology and general social issues. He's got a pretty good handle on how resentment festers and causes all kinds of psychological and social issues. Peterson is resentment and psychological issues personified.

A lot of his stuff is a self-help guide to take personal responsibility for one's life. He cautions strongly against the 'oppression' narrative that saturates contemporary discourse.

mothra wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 9:33am:

Frank wrote on Nov 10th, 2023 at 9:28am: mothra wrote on Nov 10th, 2023 at 8:08am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 9th, 2023 at 9:12pm: Peterson's pretty insightful when it comes to psychology and general social issues. He's got a pretty good handle on how resentment festers and causes all kinds of psychological and social issues. Peterson is resentment and psychological issues personified. :D :D Look who's talking!!!!!   ;D ;D Yet i can discourse with you, anathema that you are, without bursting into tears. Puts me a notch or so up from old Jordo, eh what.

Oh! A man showing his feelings is 'psychological issues personified', is it?
What other patriarchal stereotypes do you have under that phoney veneer of snivelling pwogwessivism, frightbat bint?

For the 'look who's talking' files.

:D :D


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCrn79SXcAEBRs2?.jpg

The Granuiad, of course.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 8:37pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 10th, 2023 at 8:08am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 9th, 2023 at 9:12pm: Peterson's pretty insightful when it comes to psychology and general social issues. He's got a pretty good handle on how resentment festers and causes all kinds of psychological and social issues. Peterson is resentment and psychological issues personified. A lot of his stuff is a self-help guide to take personal responsibility for one's life. He cautions strongly against the 'oppression' narrative that saturates contemporary discourse.

And a lot of his stuff is bullsh[quote][/quote]it .