Another COVID-19 wave is coming. Here's how case numbers are trending and who needs a booster 8-)

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:51am:

Another COVID-19 wave is coming. Here's how case numbers are trending and who needs a booster 8-)

That’s great news!!! And I really mean that too!

Hopefully this news will once again stop all the wars going on all over the globe like it did last time.

I got Covid early Oct 2023.
Tested negative 14th Oct.

I'll have plenty of anti-bodies against it now for at least 6 months.

We should hold an Olympics or Commonwealth Games here.
Tens of thousands of foreigners can bring their Covid variants here and create a 'Soup' effect for more lethal doses.
Everyone can chuck sickies then.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 12:02pm:

I got Covid early Oct 2023. Tested negative 14th Oct. I'll have plenty of anti-bodies against it now for at least 6 months.

I wouldn't rely on that too much if I were you, Bobby.

With several new vaccine and prior infection avoiding variants doing the rounds at the moment it would be amazing if you could last 6 months without being reinfected.

Especially if you're not wearing a mask in crowded places.

That's why you can't get another Covid vaccine unless it's been 6 months since your last vaccination or infection... government saves $$$ on vaccines.

Mind you, the current vaccines available in Australia are out of date and almost totally ineffective against the latest variants. Still waiting for the Federal government to order some new ones (by the time they're available here they will also be ineffective against newer variants).

Last I heard the 'record' for someone being reinfected after recovering from Covid is 2 weeks.

Anyone who catches Covid and lives - is given a superhuman mutation of immunity to help them progress into the future.

Jasin wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 3:12pm:

We should hold an Olympics or Commonwealth Games here. Tens of thousands of foreigners can bring their Covid variants here and create a 'Soup' effect for more lethal doses. Everyone can chuck sickies then.

That's still happening Australia wide... just visit your nearest airport (make sure you wear a mask unless you're the daring type) and watch the passengers getting off the planes from overseas... I'll bet at least half of them are Covid positive even if only a handful of them were before the planes set off for Australia.

Give it a few more months until the northern hemisphere winter gets going and they'll be bringing in the latest flu variants too so we can also 'enjoy' them here next winter as well.

Being sealed in a flying metal tube for hours on end does tend to cause things like that. Especially now with no testing, no masks and no quarantine.

Everyone is getting sick of the Democrats and the World.
That's why.

Carl D wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 12:02pm: I got Covid early Oct 2023. Tested negative 14th Oct. I'll have plenty of anti-bodies against it now for at least 6 months. I wouldn't rely on that too much if I were you, Bobby. With several new vaccine and prior infection avoiding variants doing the rounds at the moment it would be amazing if you could last 6 months without being reinfected. Especially if you're not wearing a mask in crowded places. That's why you can't get another Covid vaccine unless it's been 6 months since your last vaccination or infection... government saves $$$ on vaccines. Mind you, the current vaccines available in Australia are out of date and almost totally ineffective against the latest variants. Still waiting for the Federal government to order some new ones (by the time they're available here they will also be ineffective against newer variants). Last I heard the 'record' for someone being reinfected after recovering from Covid is 2 weeks.

Human anti-bodies are much better than any vaccine.
I'll be OK.
I'll get through Xmas unaffected - not like last Xmas.

Roll up roll up get yout 50th booster.  If 50 doesn't protect you get 51 or 52.

Masks don't help at all either other than have you breathe in your own bacteria which is dangerous.

Pity Louisa here doesn't write articles for the MSM.

https://nitter.net/loobylouwales/status/1720226713509265612#m

Click on the images to enlarge them.

Mind, you, the MSM would never publish something like this because they are complicit in minimising Covid these days. Just like our governments.

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 4:02pm:

Roll up roll up get yout 50th booster.  If 50 doesn't protect you get 51 or 52. Masks don't help at all either other than have you breathe in your own bacteria which is dangerous.

That's what happened in 1918 to 1920 - Spanish flu.
Most people died of bacterial pneumonia from having a cloth over their mouth all day
and breathing in bacteria which bred to huge numbers in the cloth.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 4:33pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 4:02pm: Roll up roll up get yout 50th booster.  If 50 doesn't protect you get 51 or 52. Masks don't help at all either other than have you breathe in your own bacteria which is dangerous. That's what happened in 1918 to 1920 - Spanish flu. Most people died of bacterial pneumonia from having a cloth over their mouth all day and breathing in bacteria which bred to huge numbers in the cloth.

Not quite.

The majority of deaths during the influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 were not caused by the influenza virus acting alone, report researchers from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health. Instead, most victims succumbed to bacterial pneumonia following influenza virus infection. The pneumonia was caused when bacteria that normally inhabit the nose and throat invaded the lungs along a pathway created when the virus destroyed the cells that line the bronchial tubes and lungs.

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 4:02pm:

Roll up roll up get yout 50th booster.  If 50 doesn't protect you get 51 or 52. Masks don't help at all either other than have you breathe in your own bacteria which is dangerous.

hehe




What a pity that people back then, didn't have vaccine technology, when THE BLACK DEATH was ravaging Europe and England.

Coz, a good vaccine 'take-up' back then, woulda quickly knocked the spread of THE BLACK DEATH 'on the head'.

Surely.

[that is sarcasm]



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Black Death 1346–1353 pandemic in Eurasia and North Africa The Black Death was.......the most fatal pandemic recorded in human history......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death



In the aftermath of what we all suffered during 2020-2022, i'm convinced that it was my own strong immune system which protected me from becoming a victim of the 'Covid' fiasco which we were all forced to endure.

What is our bulwark for good health, imo ?

Knowledge [with a basis in truth], plus, making good [sensible] personal choices.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 7:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 4:33pm: Black Orchid wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 4:02pm: Roll up roll up get yout 50th booster.  If 50 doesn't protect you get 51 or 52. Masks don't help at all either other than have you breathe in your own bacteria which is dangerous. That's what happened in 1918 to 1920 - Spanish flu. Most people died of bacterial pneumonia from having a cloth over their mouth all day and breathing in bacteria which bred to huge numbers in the cloth. Not quite. The majority of deaths during the influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 were not caused by the influenza virus acting alone, report researchers from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health. Instead, most victims succumbed to bacterial pneumonia following influenza virus infection. The pneumonia was caused when bacteria that normally inhabit the nose and throat invaded the lungs along a pathway created when the virus destroyed the cells that line the bronchial tubes and lungs.

Then I stand corrected.

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 4:02pm:

Roll up roll up get yout 50th booster.  If 50 doesn't protect you get 51 or 52. Masks don't help at all either other than have you breathe in your own bacteria which is dangerous.

Yeah - it's a bit like that. If the 50th jab doesn't do it, the 51st will be said to do it until the next wave and the next.

I did say from the very start that these were not Vaccines, just immune boosters - which in themselves are not good long term as it makes the body rely on fabricated immunity help.

Two thirds of the World got infected with the Pneumonic Pandemic, of which 50 million (double the amount of deaths than of the entire World War) died.

The other third of the world that wasn't infected, was because they had 'locked the virus out' of their countries.

Jasin wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 6:08am:

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 4:02pm: Roll up roll up get yout 50th booster.  If 50 doesn't protect you get 51 or 52. Masks don't help at all either other than have you breathe in your own bacteria which is dangerous. Yeah - it's a bit like that. If the 50th jab doesn't do it, the 51st will be said to do it until the next wave and the next. I did say from the very start that these were not Vaccines, just immune boosters - which in themselves are not good long term as it makes the body rely on fabricated immunity help.

With each shot/booster you destroy more of your own systems immune defences to say nothing of what it does to your heart.  Fear does strange things to weak minded people.


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The study showed that immune function among vaccinated individuals 8 months after the administration of two doses of COVID-19 vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated individuals.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9167431/

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 7:21am:

...With each shot/booster you destroy more of your own systems immune defences to say nothing of what it does to your heart.

Link please.



Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 7:21am:

Quote: The study showed that immune function among vaccinated individuals 8 months after the administration of two doses of COVID-19 vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated individuals. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9167431/

I scanned the Lancet report but couldn't find
anything confirming this.

As I read it, the exact opposite was reported:

62,172 10·0% of vaccinated individuals tested
positive for SARS-CoV-2, and were compared with
40,345 unvaccinated controls, 16·7% of whom
tested positive.

   Can you clarify this?    8-)

@Reply #18,


Chickenpox vaccine causes chickenpox and shingles in adults, notes Robert F. Kennedy, Jr
02 min
https://www.bitchute.com/video/yYxWtylUcEln/      
           NOTE - the creator of the video makes reference to docs with supporting evidences

and.......
ChickenPox Vaccine Found to be Causing an Increase in Shingles
02 min
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ptyzTHKAk0hp/



AusGeoff,
FACT CHECKERS have completely debunked all of the TOTALLY B.S. information in these two videos.

So YOU, personally, can totally disregard the information revealed in these two videos.

And, i would recommend to you, that you totally ignore these two short videos.

And i would recommend that you should not even view these two short videos.

Because even viewing the information in them, may cause you to feel a terrible pain in your head ??


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BUT TO EVERYONE ELSE WHO VIEWS THIS POST,
......You may want to view these two sources [these two short videos], which reveal that
>> medical researchers [one, working for the CDC, in the U.S.] believe that they have uncovered evidences, <<
that 'some' vaccines may cause a great threat to our health [by wrecking the functioning, of an individuals own immune system].

" Another COVID-19 wave is coming"

Looks like it's already here... and it's a biggie this time.

Even with almost no testing or reporting being done.

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1720340972897513746#m


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🇦🇺Change in reported weekly case numbers: 3 November 2023 🔸National: n/a 🔹SA: ⬆️Up 58.1% 🔹TAS: ⬆️Up 57.1% 🔹WA: ⬆️Up 39.1% 🔹ACT: ⬆️Up 30.2% 🔹NSW: (no data) 🔹VIC: (no data) 🔹QLD: (no data) 🔹NT: Data updated fortnightly

Not sure about the number of Covid deaths reported last week due to the government 'blackout' on almost everything Covid now. I heard somewhere that it was 49.

Meanwhile, the disgrace that is Covid deaths in aged care continues unabated.

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1720583022712627632#m


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COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 2 November 2023 🔹Active cases: 2,320 (+694) 🔹Active outbreaks: 294 (+85) 🔹Residents: 1,575 (+445) 🔹Staff: 745 (+249) 🔹Reported deaths in 2023: 1,167 (+13)

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🔸5,934 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic 🔸686 reported deaths in 2020 🔸226 reported deaths in 2021 🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022 🔸1,167 reported deaths in 2023

The good news is that some of the pollies here in WA are now getting hit with Covid... for some it's the second time or more.

Cook and Saffioti a no-show at state conference after being struck down with COVID-19


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Mr Cook said it was a “very “timely reminder that COVID remains an ever-present risk in our community”. “Given the surge in hospitalisations, it’s clear there are hundreds of new COVID cases in our community going unreported,” he said. “We need to get back basics - wash your hands, cover your mouth when you cough, and most importantly, if you’re feeling unwell, stay at home until your symptoms resolve. “

Try thousands or tens of thousands of unreported cases, Roger.

I'm betting we won't see this printed in today's Sunday Times or tomorrow's West Australian.

They only report it online because they know not many people read their online edition.

No mention of masks, of course. And then they (along with the majority of the population) wonder why they keep getting infected with an AIRBORNE virus (the pollies DO know but masks are a big no-no as far as their big business 'masters' are concerned - see my signature).

I've also heard that Katy Gallagher, the Federal Minister for Finance and other things has also tested positive for Covid.

Not enough handwashing by the looks of it, Katy. Better get on to Roger (Cook) here in WA for some advice.  ::)

I wonder how many times Airbus Albo has been infected now? He's had it at least twice so far. Must be about time for for another "interaction" (his word when he had his second infection) with Covid. Hopefully, this time it will be a "biggie".

Carl D wrote on Nov 5^th, 2023 at 9:24am:

" Another COVID-19 wave is coming" Looks like it's already here... and it's a biggie this time. Even with almost no testing or reporting being done. https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1720340972897513746#m Quote: 🇦🇺Change in reported weekly case numbers: 3 November 2023 🔸National: n/a 🔹SA: ⬆️Up 58.1% 🔹TAS: ⬆️Up 57.1% 🔹WA: ⬆️Up 39.1% 🔹ACT: ⬆️Up 30.2% 🔹NSW: (no data) 🔹VIC: (no data) 🔹QLD: (no data) 🔹NT: Data updated fortnightly Not sure about the number of Covid deaths reported last week due to the government 'blackout' on almost everything Covid now. I heard somewhere that it was 49. Meanwhile, the disgrace that is Covid deaths in aged care continues unabated. https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1720583022712627632#m [quote]COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 2 November 2023 🔹Active cases: 2,320 (+694) 🔹Active outbreaks: 294 (+85) 🔹Residents: 1,575 (+445) 🔹Staff: 745 (+249) 🔹Reported deaths in 2023: 1,167 (+13)

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🔸5,934 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic 🔸686 reported deaths in 2020 🔸226 reported deaths in 2021 🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022 🔸1,167 reported deaths in 2023

The good news is that some of the pollies here in WA are now getting hit with Covid... for some it's the second time or more.

Cook and Saffioti a no-show at state conference after being struck down with COVID-19


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Mr Cook said it was a “very “timely reminder that COVID remains an ever-present risk in our community”. “Given the surge in hospitalisations, it’s clear there are hundreds of new COVID cases in our community going unreported,” he said. “We need to get back basics - wash your hands, cover your mouth when you cough, and most importantly, if you’re feeling unwell, stay at home until your symptoms resolve. “

Try thousands or tens of thousands of unreported cases, Roger.

I'm betting we won't see this printed in today's Sunday Times or tomorrow's West Australian.

They only report it online because they know not many people read their online edition.

No mention of masks, of course. And then they (along with the majority of the population) wonder why they keep getting infected with an AIRBORNE virus (the pollies DO know but masks are a big no-no as far as their big business 'masters' are concerned - see my signature).

I've also heard that Katy Gallagher, the Federal Minister for Finance and other things has also tested positive for Covid.

Not enough handwashing by the looks of it, Katy. Better get on to Roger (Cook) here in WA for some advice.  ::)

I wonder how many times Airbus Albo has been infected now? He's had it at least twice so far. Must be about time for for another "interaction" (his word when he had his second infection) with Covid. Hopefully, this time it will be a "biggie".
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OMG! Thank you for this important information. Would you mind if I shared it elsewhere?

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 5^th, 2023 at 9:42am:

OMG! Thank you for this important information. Would you mind if I shared it elsewhere?

Good morning Lisa.

Help yourself... the more people who know about this the better because at the moment I'm sure 99% of the population have no idea what's going on with Covid due to an almost total absence of communication from our governments and the media.

Carl D wrote on Nov 5^th, 2023 at 9:48am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 5th, 2023 at 9:42am: OMG! Thank you for this important information. Would you mind if I shared it elsewhere? Good morning Lisa. Help yourself... the more people who know about this the better because at the moment I'm sure 99% of the population have no idea what's going on with Covid due to an almost total absence of communication from our governments and the media.

Thank you.

I’ll copy/paste the data to everyone on my iPhone contact list as well as my Facebook and Instagram page.

Meantime our government clearly doesn’t give a damn about us 😩🥺

Carl D wrote on Nov 5^th, 2023 at 9:24am:

I've also heard that Katy Gallagher, the Federal Minister for Finance and other things has also tested positive for Covid. Not enough handwashing by the looks of it, Katy. Better get on to Roger (Cook) here in WA for some advice.  ::)

Yes, she has Covid.

November 5 2023

Dash for Senate duty for Trade Minister Don Farrell as Katy Gallagher gets COVID-19  (paywalled but you'll get the 'gist' of it).

What happened since October 2021, Katy?

October 22 2021

When your kid gets COVID at school: Katy Gallagher on being prepared

Forget the gloves and face shield but if you had still been wearing the high quality mask you probably wouldn't have been infected.

Lesson learned, I take it? (I doubt it).

And... I thought the pandemic was over and Covid was no longer around? At least that's what we've all been told for ages now.  ::)

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Carl D wrote on Nov 5^th, 2023 at 9:24am:

The good news is that some of the pollies here in WA are now getting hit with Covid... for some it's the second time or more. Cook and Saffioti a no-show at state conference after being struck down with COVID-19 Premier Roger Cook and his deputy Rita Saffioti have been struck down with COVID-19, robbing them of a big and important moment on Labor’s biggest day of the year - state conference. The new-look leadership team was supposed to have been on show on Sunday when Mr Cook was due to make a keynote address in person. Instead, the ALP faithful will be played a video message from the under-pressure Premier in which he will tell them he will “take nothing for granted” at the next election. Ms Saffioti was due to introduce Mr Cook. Both tested positive after arriving back from a tour of Japan on Wednesday night along with Mr Cook’s chief of staff Daniel Pastorelli.

How unlucky would they have to be?

To be three of only 423 people in the whole of WA to test positive last week?

(That's sarcasm, by the way).

And...

https://nitter.net/SofiaAnnieW/status/1720964826648727708#m


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Anne-Marie Newton @amnewtonPhD 9h Replying to @BigBadDenis @Rita_Saffioti “We need to get back to basics - wash your hands” says Premier Cook. @RogerCookMLA - you are getting poor advice from your CHO @CHO_WAHealth. And passing on that poor advice to the people of WA. #COVIDisAirborne FFS!

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S @SofiaAnnieW 8h Replying to @amnewtonPhD @BigBadDenis @RogerCookMLA @Rita_Saffioti @CHO_WAHealth Omg how are they still on the washing your hands thing? How?

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Anne-Marie Newton @amnewtonPhD 8h Replying to @SofiaAnnieW @BigBadDenis @RogerCookMLA @Rita_Saffioti @CHO_WAHealth Deliberate disinformation at this point. They know it's airborne

Yes, and they've known for a long time now.

But, they're not allowed to say the m(ask) word anymore.

Ah, yes.

ABC - Anything But Covid strikes again.

Now that flu season is (sort of) over now in Australia I was wondering what the 'spring/summer excuse' was going to be for lots of people still being sick most of the time.

Here it is... *drum roll*

Hay Fever


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With spring well and truly underway, Aussies have reported hay fever is hitting them extra hard this year. Runny noses, itchy eyes, headaches, sneezing and congestion are among some of the symptoms of hay fever, with experts warning it could get worse.

Oh, I'm sure it will get worse... and it will still be blamed on "hay fever" or a "summer cold". Right up until the start of next winter when Covid will be 'rebranded' as the flu again.  ::)


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SRPasses it on @SallyRCbra 6h Replying to @10NewsFirst Because Covid weakens immune system. It’s inevitable with so many having had Covid at least once, that allergens will hit most harder. Shouldn’t discuss hay fever topic without including this information

No, they shouldn't.

But...

No, they won't (include that information).

wheres your evidence covid causes a problem with allergens ? ::) ::)/

leave the science to dr gerrard  ;) ;)

aquascoot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

wheres your evidence covid causes a problem with allergens ? ::) ::)/ leave the science to dr gerrard  ;) ;)

Where's your evidence Dr. Gerrard knows anything about science?

Or health?

Went for a blood test yesterday morning (this place is run by the WA Health Department and I was the only person there wearing a mask of course) and imagine my surprise when I saw a real live air purifier plugged in and turned on in the reception area.

If I had a X/Twitter account I would let Dr. Berger know (his picture was taken while he was in Tasmania recently).

Mind you, the one I saw had a large red light flashing on the top of it which probably meant the filter needed to be replaced plus a small purifier like that would be almost useless in such a large area - especially with the door open on the left but at least they were making some sort of effort so I gave them points for that.

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Meanwhile...

Dr. Berger is now in Melbourne.


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Melbourne. Ninth wave. The trams are packed. The ventilation's terrible. No-one is wearing a mask of any kind. I don't get it. Do people actually WANT to get COVID?

Probably not.

But, due to the total lack of health advice and now the 'hiding' of Covid cases, hospitalisations and deaths by our governments it's not surprising at all.

https://nitter.net/Goodintheweeds/status/1722379134402515110#m


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Misinformed population thanks to politicians/bureaucrats running the "it's over" & "it's only a cold" campaign. Economics usurped public health. They used acute symptoms as the bellwether for the disease. Respectable SARS-COV-2 researchers say otherwise.

Yes - this. 100%

But, hey... never mind... Christmas is just around the corner. Think of the economy!!

oh dear carl

your hero is going to be deregistered for his ratbag comments

Dr David Berger has been told to pull his head in by the Medical Board of Australia who wants him to undergo a re-education course “in relation to behaving professionally and courteously to colleagues and other practitioners”.

His offence, according to the board, was his passionate Tweets, sometimes containing the odd expletive, critiquing public health measures,

no such problem for the highly skilled dr john gerrard

you are on the wrong side of history carl, associating with the charlatans

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 12:20pm:

oh dear carl your hero is going to be deregistered for his ratbag comments Dr David Berger has been told to pull his head in by the Medical Board of Australia who wants him to undergo a re-education course “in relation to behaving professionally and courteously to colleagues and other practitioners”. His offence, according to the board, was his passionate Tweets, sometimes containing the odd expletive, critiquing public health measures, no such problem for the highly skilled dr john gerrard you are on the wrong side of history carl, associating with the charlatans

Meh.

AHPRA's made a serious mistake in trying to silence Dr David Berger

Dr Andrew Miller

Dr Miller is an anaesthetist in Perth and president of AMA WA.


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15th July 2022 Dr David Berger has been told to pull his head in by the Medical Board of Australia who wants him to undergo a re-education course "in relation to behaving professionally and courteously to colleagues and other practitioners". His offence, according to the board, was his passionate Tweets, sometimes containing the odd expletive, critiquing public health measures, dopey commentators and the politics of the pandemic. This was the end result of an anonymous notification — or at least one where the 'name withheld from the registrant' — made to AHPRA Doctors’ freedom to speak out on fundamental issues on public health, patient safety, ethical medical care should be sacrosanct.

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As reported in Australian Doctor last week, the sections of the AHPRA sanction make troubling reading. It stated: "Dr Berger has made comments that disagree with politicians, government bodies and public health organisations, pharmaceutical companies and other medical professionals. He has done so using emotive and pejorative language." "The terms used by Dr Berger often imply that the persons or organisations at issue are acting either deceptively or coercively and for motives other than the public health interest.” It added: "When referred to in this manner, it would be reasonable for the reader to doubt the integrity of the persons and organisations targeted by the practitioner and to lose confidence in the public health pronouncements and programs promoted by them." Politicians and their employees acting deceptively or coercively for motives that benefit themselves rather than the public? Say it isn't so!

Oh...


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no such problem for the highly skilled dr john gerrard

;D ;D ;D

That's because he never responds to anything said about his obvious incompetence (and Annastacia also has him on a 'tight leash' like the rest of Australia's pollies do with their CHO's).

And, speaking of Dr. David Berger again...

Keep going! We're on the brink of hybrid immunity

Yep, any day now.

By the way, did you see this part?


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NSW Health @NSWHealth 2h Emergency department presentations for COVID-19 increased across most age groups, particularly young children and those aged 65-years and older.

Are they the same young people that you say need to "flourish" while letting the elderly die?

the regulator says he is a danger.

why do you only believe authority figures when it suits your own conspiracy theory

Vaccines?

The ATAGI site in Australia said that they had done a risk/benefit analysis for the vaccines -
so they acknowledged risk but said the good outweighed the risk.


Many people died from the AstraZeneca I that had - 3 times!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDWdXXclQvs

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 12:43pm:

the regulator says he is a danger. why do you only believe authority figures when it suits your own conspiracy theory

The important question here is:

Is Dr. Berger correct with what he's been saying about the sheer incompetence displayed by our governments and health departments in dealing with SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) resulting in nearly 23,000 deaths so far as well as countless hospitalisations and potential Long Covid cases?

The answer is a resounding "YES!"

And, he was reported to the regulator because he (justifiably) upset the likes of Nick Coatsworth, Peter Collignon, Greg Dore, Catherine "Bunker" Bennett and several others who have all been almost 100% wrong about everything they've said regarding Covid since the start of the pandemic (and they have been/still are too embarrassed to admit it).

And... there goes another one. So predictable. Just as another huge Covid wave engulfs the country.

As at 1 November 2023, Northern Territory COVID-19 data is no longer published on NT Health’s website.

Are there any States left that are still reporting Covid cases, hospitalisations and deaths?

https://nitter.net/MosmanResources/status/1722765061570302445#m


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Mosman Resources @MosmanResources 22m Replying to @BigBadDenis Hiding data is just amateurish propaganda. Most Australians expected better from Labor.

Yes, it is.
And yes, we did.

Carl D wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 7:06am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9th, 2023 at 12:43pm: the regulator says he is a danger. why do you only believe authority figures when it suits your own conspiracy theory The important question here is: Is Dr. Berger correct with what he's been saying about the sheer incompetence displayed by our governments and health departments in dealing with SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) resulting in nearly 23,000 deaths so far as well as countless hospitalisations and potential Long Covid cases? The answer is a resounding "YES!" And, he was reported to the regulator because he (justifiably) upset the likes of Nick Coatsworth, Peter Collignon, Greg Dore, Catherine "Bunker" Bennett and several others who have all been almost 100% wrong about everything they've said regarding Covid since the start of the pandemic (and they have been/still are too embarrassed to admit it).

face it carl

you just want anyone who disagrees with you silenced but anyone who agrees with you , you cry foul.

its the height of hypocricy

aquascoot wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 3:31pm:

face it carl you just want anyone who disagrees with you silenced but anyone who agrees with you , you cry foul. its the height of hypocricy

Is that anything like what our governments are doing right now and have been doing for quite some time by remaining silent about the ongoing pandemic and the deaths and hospitalisations it is still causing?

With occasional messages from governments and the media of course that the pandemic is over but when it becomes obvious that it isn't (like right now) then they will say that SARS-CoV-2 is "just a cold", deliberately making it look like people such as myself who still mask and try to warn others of the ongoing danger are "anxious" or "nutjobs".

Here's another perfect example from NSW "Health" posted just today...

https://nitter.net/NSWHealth/status/1722735781670711522#m

See the graphic?

"Consider wearing a mask in crowded indoor areas and be kind to people who choose to wear a mask"

What sort of BS advice is that? In that case we should be kind to EVERYONE because EVERYONE should be wearing a mask in crowded places at the moment and for the foreseeable future.

The replies also make interesting reading.

Anyway, here's some more interesting reading regarding this week's Covid numbers (the ones that are not being 'hidden' so far):

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 9 November 2023

5,952 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

Australia's weekly reported COVID numbers: 10 November 2023

Change in reported weekly case numbers: 10 November 2023

New HK.3 COVID strain rises in Vic, hospitalisations soar

SA COVID cases spike by nearly 50% in one week

Oh, and...

VIC has added 54 new COVID-19 deaths in the most recent weekly surveillance report.


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Next reporting period will include at least 122 deaths, plus any additional deaths reported in the coming week that occurred between 4th October - 31st October

Wouldn't want to be in Victoria right now (eh, Bobby?). Mind you, the rest of Australia would/will be in the same boat soon if they're not already... no wonder they're in a big hurry to 'hide' the Covid numbers, especially just before Christmas.

Hi Carl
Can we agree that Elon musk is more intelligent than you

Elon just released some figures from his factory in China which employs 20,000 people
Not one member of his staff has died from covid
These aren't government statistics
He is simply showing who turned up for work

Please consider rethinking this mild respiratory virus which thankfully 99% of people now realize is a mild respiratory virus

Please reconsider using masks which cause your nasal cavities to fill with streptococcus staphylococcus pneumococcus and pseudomonas

The foremost deadly hospital acquired germs

Your advice is probably killing people
We probably need to report you to the health authorities for promoting misinformation
Just like your guru who has thankfully been silenced by those with more scientific knowledge

aquascoot wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 7:54am:

Hi Carl Can we agree that Elon musk is more intelligent than you Elon just released some figures from his factory in China which employs 20,000 people Not one member of his staff has died from covid These aren't government statistics He is simply showing who turned up for work Please consider rethinking this mild respiratory virus which thankfully 99% of people now realize is a mild respiratory virus Please reconsider using masks which cause your nasal cavities to fill with streptococcus staphylococcus pneumococcus and pseudomonas The foremost deadly hospital acquired germs Your advice is probably killing people We probably need to report you to the health authorities for promoting misinformation Just like your guru who has thankfully been silenced by those with more scientific knowledge

Mild?

When it first hit Italy, 100s of young doctors and nurses died
when they tried to treat patients.

The first strain was a killer.
The mutant ones after that were milder.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 7:54am:

Hi Carl Can we agree that Elon musk is more intelligent than you

Maybe. But, I'm pretty sure I would never pay 44 billion US dollars for something like Twitter and then proceed to destroy it like he's done.


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Elon just released some figures from his factory in China which employs 20,000 people Not one member of his staff has died from covid These aren't government statistics He is simply showing who turned up for work

Got a link for that?

And if it's true then they must be the luckiest 20,000 people in China.

Can a Million Chinese People Die and Nobody Know?

Yes, I'm sure they could. And they probably did. After all, if stupid weak governments like the ones we have in Australia are able to 'hide' nearly 23,000 Covid deaths (so far) from the majority of the Australian population I have no trouble believing the Chinese government could 'hide' a million or more Covid deaths.

Some say it could be as high as 1.4 million deaths.


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Please consider rethinking this mild respiratory virus which thankfully 99% of people now realize is a mild respiratory virus

Saying it twice in the same sentence doesn't make it any more believable... and you should know by now that it is becoming more and more evident that SARS-CoV-2 is nothing like a "mild respiratory virus" and never has been.


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Please reconsider using masks which cause your nasal cavities to fill with streptococcus staphylococcus pneumococcus and pseudomonas The foremost deadly hospital acquired germs

Not if you're wearing a high quality mask like the ones I wear.

Surgical "baggy blues" are not PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) by the way. They may stop an infected person from spreading the virus to some extent but they do almost nothing to stop the wearer from being infected.


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Your advice is probably killing people

lol... sure... here's some "advice" that no doubt killed many people.

No wonder Queensland was the first State to stop reporting Covid deaths earlier this year.


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We probably need to report you to the health authorities for promoting misinformation

lol again... go for it. But don't forget to report your hero "Dr." John Gerrard a.k.a. "Dr. Death", "Lex Luthor" and several other nasty but appropriate names first.


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Just like your guru who has thankfully been silenced by those with more scientific knowledge

Has he?

Dr. David Berger - Twitter.

Read his posts. Doesn't look like he's been "silenced" to me.

(I use Nitter because as part of Elon Musk's ongoing wrecking of Twitter he's made it almost impossible for anyone without an account to read anything. Nitter gets around that for now).

You may also find this interesting (but I'm pretty sure you won't read it).

And...


Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 8:09am:

Mild? When it first hit Italy, 100s of young doctors and nurses died when they tried to treat patients. The first strain was a killer. The mutant ones after that were milder.

He knows, Bobby. He knows. But, the "mutant ones" are not really that much milder judging by the ongoing huge number of deaths worldwide. Covid only appears to be "mild" now because it has already killed off millions of the elderly and vulnerable since the start of the pandemic.

But, as I've said before - I'm pretty sure he's just trolling as usual.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 7:54am:

Elon just released some figures from his factory in China which employs 20,000 people Not one member of his staff has died from COVID...

Nope.  Musk never "released" any figures
confirming this claim of yours.   It's a fairy story.    :D

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 8:09am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 11th, 2023 at 7:54am: Hi Carl... Please consider rethinking this mild respiratory virus which thankfully 99% of people now realize is a mild respiratory virus Please reconsider using masks which cause your nasal cavities to fill with streptococcus staphylococcus pneumococcus and pseudomonas The foremost deadly hospital acquired germs Your advice is probably killing people We probably need to report you to the health authorities for promoting misinformation Just like your guru who has thankfully been silenced by those with more scientific knowledge Mild? When it first hit Italy, 100s of young doctors and nurses died when they tried to treat patients. The first strain was a killer. The mutant ones after that were milder.

LOL... yes... One of our leading conspiracy theorists here, 
Aquascoot, must be creaming his jeans at the opportunity
to fire up his COVID bullshit again with the appearance of
this new variant.

A "mild" respiratory virus that's already killed 6,937,303
people across the globe? Mild? What an absurd claim!  This
is more than the entire population of Victoria.

I'm half expecting (dreading?) his tag-team buddy Sir Lastnail
to crawl out of his cave and stoke the fires of ignorance.

    >:(

Carl D wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 9:16am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 11th, 2023 at 7:54am: Hi Carl Can we agree that Elon musk is more intelligent than you Maybe. But, I'm pretty sure I would never pay 44 billion US dollars for something like Twitter and then proceed to destroy it like he's done. Quote: Elon just released some figures from his factory in China which employs 20,000 people Not one member of his staff has died from covid These aren't government statistics He is simply showing who turned up for work Got a link for that? And if it's true then they must be the luckiest 20,000 people in China. Can a Million Chinese People Die and Nobody Know? Yes, I'm sure they could. And they probably did. After all, if stupid weak governments like the ones we have in Australia are able to 'hide' nearly 23,000 Covid deaths (so far) from the majority of the Australian population I have no trouble believing the Chinese government could 'hide' a million or more Covid deaths. Some say it could be as high as 1.4 million deaths. [quote]Please consider rethinking this mild respiratory virus which thankfully 99% of people now realize is a mild respiratory virus

Saying it twice in the same sentence doesn't make it any more believable... and you should know by now that it is becoming more and more evident that SARS-CoV-2 is nothing like a "mild respiratory virus" and never has been.


Quote:

Please reconsider using masks which cause your nasal cavities to fill with streptococcus staphylococcus pneumococcus and pseudomonas The foremost deadly hospital acquired germs

Not if you're wearing a high quality mask like the ones I wear.

Surgical "baggy blues" are not PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) by the way. They may stop an infected person from spreading the virus to some extent but they do almost nothing to stop the wearer from being infected.


Quote:

Your advice is probably killing people

lol... sure... here's some "advice" that no doubt killed many people.

No wonder Queensland was the first State to stop reporting Covid deaths earlier this year.


Quote:

We probably need to report you to the health authorities for promoting misinformation

lol again... go for it. But don't forget to report your hero "Dr." John Gerrard a.k.a. "Dr. Death", "Lex Luthor" and several other nasty but appropriate names first.


Quote:

Just like your guru who has thankfully been silenced by those with more scientific knowledge

Has he?

Dr. David Berger - Twitter.

Read his posts. Doesn't look like he's been "silenced" to me.

(I use Nitter because as part of Elon Musk's ongoing wrecking of Twitter he's made it almost impossible for anyone without an account to read anything. Nitter gets around that for now).

You may also find this interesting (but I'm pretty sure you won't read it).

And...


Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 8:09am:

Mild? When it first hit Italy, 100s of young doctors and nurses died when they tried to treat patients. The first strain was a killer. The mutant ones after that were milder.

He knows, Bobby. He knows. But, the "mutant ones" are not really that much milder judging by the ongoing huge number of deaths worldwide. Covid only appears to be "mild" now because it has already killed off millions of the elderly and vulnerable since the start of the pandemic.

But, as I've said before - I'm pretty sure he's just trolling as usual.[/quote]

you do realise you just said i should report dr john gerard to himself.

he is the authority.

ot os you and your nutty doctor who has been punished by the regulator who are now

anti-science

aquascoot wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 11:48am:

you do realise you just said i should report dr john gerard to himself. he is the authority. ot os you and your nutty doctor who has been punished by the regulator who are now anti-science

Ah, that explains a lot.

Thanks. That's all I need to know.

But not for the reason(s) you're probably thinking.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 7:54am:

Please consider rethinking this mild respiratory virus which thankfully 99% of people now realize is a mild respiratory virus

Professor Kerryn Phelps - Twitter (Nitter)


Quote:

A timely reminder that #COVID19 is not “a respiratory illness”. It is a systemic illness with potential for long term vascular, neurological and immunological consequences. Take care out there

You're welcome. Again.

Carl D wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 2:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 11th, 2023 at 7:54am: Please consider rethinking this mild respiratory virus which thankfully 99% of people now realize is a mild respiratory virus Professor Kerryn Phelps - Twitter (Nitter) Quote: A timely reminder that #COVID19 is not “a respiratory illness”. It is a systemic illness with potential for long term vascular, neurological and immunological consequences. Take care out there You're welcome. Again.

kerryn phelps is also discredited you numpty  ;D ;D ;D ;D

and she is famous for getting a vaccine injury

;D ;D ;D

aquascoot wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 2:22pm:

kerryn phelps is also discredited you numpty  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Discredited by whom? Not by Dr. John Gerrard, I hope?

That would actually be quite hilarious in my opinion.


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and she is famous for getting a vaccine injury ;D ;D ;D

What does Professor Phelps getting a vaccine injury have to do with this? And why do you think that's funny?

Here's the most important question - is she right? Mounting evidence is proving that she is.

Anyway... if anyone's wondering how the cruise ship industry is going these days...

SA Health confirms Grand Princess cruise ship COVID, gastro outbreaks.


Quote:

"The 57-year-old who asked to remain anonymous said they believed several hundred people could be affected."

Click on the images to read the article (because it's paywalled as usual if you use the source link).

From the article:

"They've stepped up the whole sanitisation, wash your hands," the passenger said.

"But we've just got people coughing and sneezing all over the place."

Gee, I wonder why? (Hint: no mention of wearing masks, of course).

Oh, and aquascoot... this is just for you!!!


Quote:

Sign me up, Captain!

:)

Oh, look...

https://nitter.net/ClimateActionN8/status/1723290018347888754#m

One year ago.

And this is from the person who has been chosen by the government to participate in running our upcoming sham of a Covid inquiry.

A person who, along with Nick Coatsworth, Peter Collignon, aquascoot's hero, Dr. Gerrard and several others has been almost 100% wrong about everything she's said about Covid since the start of the pandemic.

---

I honestly think a new wave of Covid may well be the only way to stop the war over in the Middle East.

😔😩🥺

Carl D wrote on Nov 12^th, 2023 at 7:43am:

Oh, look... https://nitter.net/ClimateActionN8/status/1723290018347888754#m One year ago. And this is from the person who has been chosen by the government to participate in running our upcoming sham of a Covid inquiry. A person who, along with Nick Coatsworth, Peter Collignon, aquascoot's hero, Dr. Gerrard and several others has been almost 100% wrong about everything she's said about Covid since the start of the pandemic.

carl.

you are getting worse.

now you think your advice is superior to the dean of epidemiology at deakin university

you are a narcissist  ;D ;D ;D

aquascoot wrote on Nov 12^th, 2023 at 2:48pm:

carl. you are getting worse. now you think your advice is superior to the dean of epidemiology at deakin university you are a narcissist  ;D ;D ;D

Yes, of course.  ::)

The attached compilation of images comes from here.

If you read through the entire thread (which I'm sure you won't) there's a few more.

---

Wow!

I wouldn't have believed this would ever get printed if I hadn't seen it in today's The Sunday Times as a 3 page article.

COVID crisis: Authorities accused of dropping the ball on COVID and creating future chronic illness burden.

Click on the images of the article to enlarge. Scroll down for part 2.

Here's what John Flint, the main author of the article has to say.


Quote:

I expect my latest article will trigger a few people. No apologies. Covid remains an exceptional disease.

Bravo, John. And 100% correct.

Here's the article that was on pages 13, 14 and 15 of today's The Sunday Times.

---

I'm not sure which one is worse lately?

Queensland (un)Health?

or

New South Wales (un)Health?

I mean... just look at this latest Covid BS from NSW:

Do you need to refresh your COVID-safe behaviours to stop the spread of illness and protect others?

"Be kind to those who choose to wear a mask"

They have to be taking the piss... surely?

Some comments:


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Petra Sola @PetraSola72 3h Replying to @NSWHealth 'Be kind to those who DON'T wear a mask as it's not their fault they believe our irresponsible messaging.' There, @NSWHealth, fixed your message

Quote:

brian jackson @briankirsty 2h Replying to @NSWHealth If I’m kind to people wearing hats, I won’t get melanoma - right ?

Quote:

brian jackson @briankirsty 5h Replying to @NSWHealth wearing a mask will keep you "covid safe". being "kind to those who choose to wear a mask" won't keep you "covid safe" in any way.

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Bianca Minnie #CleanAir #ClimateActionNow @BiancaMinnie4 5h Replying to @NSWHealth Patronising ("be kind"). 😠 NSW Health is so useless now that it doesn't try to help INFORM people who are uninformed and don't mask at a time of medium to high infection risk. 🤨 #Ventilation, #CleanAir, #WearAMask help reduce infection rates - it's not that hard.

Quote:

Bee in the country countrybee2.bsky.social @CountryBee2 6h Replying to @NSWHealth Please STOP with the patronising 'kind' reference to mask wearers. It is othering, and unhelpful. You should be recommending masks, and specifically n95/P2s, instead of suggesting anyone wearing one is at risk of others being 'unkind' to them. Masks. Clean air. It's not hard.

Quote:

Anita White #DidIMentionPrevention? 😷💉💉💉💉💉 @RealAnitaWhite 2h Replying to @NSWHealth You can't just say "wear a mask?" You are THAT politicised? You'd rather advise handwashing for an airborne virus and insultingly dance around being kind to maskers, than save lives and tell people directly to mask up? This is a scandal.

Yes, yes it is.
And the really tragic part is - they obviously don't care.

---

carl, you continue to pull a few posts off twitter and act like thats definitive

there are literally a gazillion posts saying the exact opposite

its meaningless drivel

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 5:15pm:

carl, you continue to pull a few posts off twitter and act like thats definitive there are literally a gazillion posts saying the exact opposite its meaningless drivel

So, are you saying what NSW "Health" posts on X/Twitter is meaningless drivel?

I'd have to agree with you there. Especially lately.

Trouble is... this "meaningless drivel" is causing a lot of mostly avoidable Covid illness and deaths.

Just like your hero's latest meaningless drivel is doing in Queensland.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 3:31pm:

face it carl you just want anyone who disagrees with you silenced but anyone who agrees with you , you cry foul. its the height of hypocricy

I can't speak for Carl, but after the reaction to some of the most basic things people could do during the height of COVID when so much was still unknown, and their refusal to do it, or like many on here, boast about their refusal to, I'm making a conscious choice to try and turn my empathy off.

bugger those people. 

If they meet an untimely end because of their attitude towards the virus or its many variants, good.  I don't care any more.

bugger them and bugger you.

All I care about is myself and my family.  As long as we're safe all those like the above can die for all I care. 

More for us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znodcpMzcnA

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 5:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 10th, 2023 at 3:31pm: face it carl you just want anyone who disagrees with you silenced but anyone who agrees with you , you cry foul. its the height of hypocricy I can't speak for Carl, but after the reaction to some of the most basic things people could do during the height of COVID when so much was still unknown, and their refusal to do it, or like many on here, boast about their refusal to, I'm making a conscious choice to try and turn my empathy off. bugger those people.  If they meet an untimely end because of their attitude towards the virus or its many variants, good.  I don't care any more. bugger them and bugger you. All I care about is myself and my family.  As long as we're safe all those like the above can die for all I care.  More for us.

charming ::) ::)

I'll just leave this here.

Qantas found guilty of illegally standing down worker over aircraft cleaning safety fears during COVID-19 pandemic


Quote:

Qantas has been found guilty of illegally standing down a worker who raised concerns about the COVID-19 risk to staff who were cleaning aircraft arriving from China in the early phases of the pandemic

Quote:

Theo Seremetidis worked for subsidiary Qantas Ground Services (QGS) at Sydney International Terminal as a lift truck driver in 2020 and was also an elected health and safety representative. In a case before the NSW District Court brought by SafeWork NSW, the company was accused of standing him down in early February 2020 after he gave colleagues a direction to cease unsafe work in accordance with that function. The case alleged this amounted to discriminatory conduct for a prohibited reason under Work Health and Safety legislation. Judge David Russell concluded the offence had been established beyond reasonable doubt and found QGS was guilty.

Good to see.

But, tt shouldn't have to take a court case to expose this sort of cr@p.

Especially when Qantas was undoubtedly one of the 'main players' in pressuring our governments - State and Federal, past and present - into opening up our borders closely followed by the removal of all Covid protections like quarantine and masks, etc. with the result that we're now swimming in endless Covid soup which has resulted in nearly 23,000 deaths so far not to mention all of the hospitalisations and Long Covid cases both now and in the future.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 6:39pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 5:37pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 10th, 2023 at 3:31pm: face it carl you just want anyone who disagrees with you silenced but anyone who agrees with you , you cry foul. its the height of hypocricy I can't speak for Carl, but after the reaction to some of the most basic things people could do during the height of COVID when so much was still unknown, and their refusal to do it, or like many on here, boast about their refusal to, I'm making a conscious choice to try and turn my empathy off. bugger those people.  If they meet an untimely end because of their attitude towards the virus or its many variants, good.  I don't care any more. bugger them and bugger you. All I care about is myself and my family.  As long as we're safe all those like the above can die for all I care.  More for us. charming ::) ::)

I thought you'd like it, it's your attitude after all.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 5:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 10th, 2023 at 3:31pm: face it carl you just want anyone who disagrees with you silenced but anyone who agrees with you , you cry foul. its the height of hypocricy I can't speak for Carl, but after the reaction to some of the most basic things people could do during the height of COVID when so much was still unknown, and their refusal to do it, or like many on here, boast about their refusal to, I'm making a conscious choice to try and turn my empathy off. bugger those people.  If they meet an untimely end because of their attitude towards the virus or its many variants, good.  I don't care any more. bugger them and bugger you. All I care about is myself and my family.  As long as we're safe all those like the above can die for all I care.  More for us.

Agreed   [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 11:13am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 5:37pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 10th, 2023 at 3:31pm: face it carl you just want anyone who disagrees with you silenced but anyone who agrees with you , you cry foul. its the height of hypocricy I can't speak for Carl, but after the reaction to some of the most basic things people could do during the height of COVID when so much was still unknown, and their refusal to do it, or like many on here, boast about their refusal to, I'm making a conscious choice to try and turn my empathy off. bugger those people.  If they meet an untimely end because of their attitude towards the virus or its many variants, good.  I don't care any more. bugger them and bugger you. All I care about is myself and my family.  As long as we're safe all those like the above can die for all I care.  More for us. Agreed   [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

so you dont care about the kids in gaza ?

except in a virtue signalling performative way  :) :)

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 11:22am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 11:13am: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 5:37pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 10th, 2023 at 3:31pm: face it carl you just want anyone who disagrees with you silenced but anyone who agrees with you , you cry foul. its the height of hypocricy I can't speak for Carl, but after the reaction to some of the most basic things people could do during the height of COVID when so much was still unknown, and their refusal to do it, or like many on here, boast about their refusal to, I'm making a conscious choice to try and turn my empathy off. bugger those people.  If they meet an untimely end because of their attitude towards the virus or its many variants, good.  I don't care any more. bugger them and bugger you. All I care about is myself and my family.  As long as we're safe all those like the above can die for all I care.  More for us. Agreed   [smiley=thumbsup.gif] so you dont care about the kids in gaza ? except in a virtue signalling performative way  :) :)

I'm talking about our COVID wave.

You can stick your "look over there" up your arse.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 11:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 11:22am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 11:13am: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 5:37pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 10th, 2023 at 3:31pm: face it carl you just want anyone who disagrees with you silenced but anyone who agrees with you , you cry foul. its the height of hypocricy I can't speak for Carl, but after the reaction to some of the most basic things people could do during the height of COVID when so much was still unknown, and their refusal to do it, or like many on here, boast about their refusal to, I'm making a conscious choice to try and turn my empathy off. bugger those people.  If they meet an untimely end because of their attitude towards the virus or its many variants, good.  I don't care any more. bugger them and bugger you. All I care about is myself and my family.  As long as we're safe all those like the above can die for all I care.  More for us. Agreed   [smiley=thumbsup.gif] so you dont care about the kids in gaza ? except in a virtue signalling performative way  :) :) I'm talking about our COVID wave. You can stick your "look over there" up your arse.

silence marsupial

gweggy just said that ALL he cares about is himself and his family.

how ugly  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 12:57pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 11:27am: aquascoot wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 11:22am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 11:13am: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 5:37pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 10th, 2023 at 3:31pm: face it carl you just want anyone who disagrees with you silenced but anyone who agrees with you , you cry foul. its the height of hypocricy I can't speak for Carl, but after the reaction to some of the most basic things people could do during the height of COVID when so much was still unknown, and their refusal to do it, or like many on here, boast about their refusal to, I'm making a conscious choice to try and turn my empathy off. bugger those people.  If they meet an untimely end because of their attitude towards the virus or its many variants, good.  I don't care any more. bugger them and bugger you. All I care about is myself and my family.  As long as we're safe all those like the above can die for all I care.  More for us. Agreed   [smiley=thumbsup.gif] so you dont care about the kids in gaza ? except in a virtue signalling performative way  :) :) I'm talking about our COVID wave. You can stick your "look over there" up your arse. silence marsupial gweggy just said that ALL he cares about is himself and his family. how ugly  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Hahaha, you, who care nothing about others, who routinely boasted about such during the height of COVID, during our lockdowns and mask mandates, now want to judge others doing the same?

Really?

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 1:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 12:57pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 11:27am: aquascoot wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 11:22am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 11:13am: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 5:37pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 10th, 2023 at 3:31pm: face it carl you just want anyone who disagrees with you silenced but anyone who agrees with you , you cry foul. its the height of hypocricy I can't speak for Carl, but after the reaction to some of the most basic things people could do during the height of COVID when so much was still unknown, and their refusal to do it, or like many on here, boast about their refusal to, I'm making a conscious choice to try and turn my empathy off. bugger those people.  If they meet an untimely end because of their attitude towards the virus or its many variants, good.  I don't care any more. bugger them and bugger you. All I care about is myself and my family.  As long as we're safe all those like the above can die for all I care.  More for us. Agreed   [smiley=thumbsup.gif] so you dont care about the kids in gaza ? except in a virtue signalling performative way  :) :) I'm talking about our COVID wave. You can stick your "look over there" up your arse. silence marsupial gweggy just said that ALL he cares about is himself and his family. how ugly  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( Hahaha, you, who care nothing about others, who routinely boasted about such during the height of COVID, during our lockdowns and mask mandates, now want to judge others doing the same? Really?

incorrect

i cared very deeply about the gym owners and resturanters and tourism operators who were demolished by bad policy
i cared about the kids who were made to feel super anxious and who missed school and had to stop thriving


you and gweg however, by your own words

"care only for myself and my family'

how ugly  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

you and gweg however, by your own words "care only for myself and my family'

You can include me in that as well.

As I've said many times before - if the majority of the population cannot even do something as simple as wear a mask in crowded places to protect the elderly and vulnerable during an ongoing pandemic caused by a dangerous Level 3 Biohazard virus then they can all go to h3ll as far as I am concerned.

It's not like they're being asked to donate a kidney or a lung but you'd think that was the case with the way most of them carry on about their FREEDUMB!

And, as I've also said many times - governments, big business and the media are just as much to blame for this situation by deliberately 'selling' masks and other Covid containment measures as restrictions rather than protections.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

incorrect i cared very deeply about the gym owners and resturanters and tourism operators who were demolished by bad policy i cared about the kids who were made to feel super anxious and who missed school and had to stop thriving you and gweg however, by your own words "care only for myself and my family' how ugly  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Ugly is to wish the deaths of older Australians just so you can get out of your house, away from your family who can't stand you.

Carl D wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 2:33pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 1:58pm: you and gweg however, by your own words "care only for myself and my family' You can include me in that as well. As I've said many times before - if the majority of the population cannot even do something as simple as wear a mask in crowded places to protect the elderly and vulnerable during an ongoing pandemic caused by a dangerous Level 3 Biohazard virus then they can all go to h3ll as far as I am concerned. It's not like they're being asked to donate a kidney or a lung but you'd think that was the case with the way most of them carry on about their FREEDUMB! And, as I've also said many times - governments, big business and the media are just as much to blame for this situation by deliberately 'selling' masks and other Covid containment measures as restrictions rather than protections.

That's the thing, action, reaction.

For nearly 20 years I'd given blood, done meals on wheels, was a member of various community groups, donated thousand and thousands to various community groups and charities, joined the mud army twice and I tried to instil the sense of community I felt into my kids.  Our eldest wanted to join us on during the last flood in the mud army, so we let him.

I chose to ignore all the selfish people around me, the ones who leave their trolley in the middle of a parking spot, the people who don't give up their seat to the elderly or pregnant women on the train etc, they were the exceptions to the mateship we all shared.  The Aussie way.

Well, COVID finally woke me up to what front bottoms most people are.  Especially the conservative types, the ones who demand anyone who needs help is lazy and just have their hand out, until the very moment they or someone close to them (and sometimes not even then) hit any kind of adversity, they're the first to put their hand out and ask, nay, feel entitled to help.

I stopped giving blood and had started to peel back a lot of the other things I did.  Why donate my money to someone else, that could pay for my Netflix...

Why can't I be as selfish as everyone else?!

Then winter last year, I was going to visit a friend to help her to the hospital for a pretty big procedure.  She needed help getting there and would need help 5 days later to get home.  Of course, I'm going to help.

So about a week and a bit before the date, my wife and I started wearing our masks out and about again, so winter 2022.  Mainly to get used to wearing them but to try whatever we could to reduce the chance of us getting COVID just before needing to see our friend, or when she was in recovery given the expected immunocompromised state she'd be in during recovery.

And at the supermarket, just doing the normal shop in kind of a well off area (so lots of cooker trophy wives, and rich business owning tradies thick as a brick but now "internet smart" aka cooked) I'm just getting some apples and the guy reaches over me so I turned to him and said,

"You right mate"

Like first of all, just wait your turn buggerwit, but when he saw my mask...

And the rant this front bottom went on about masks and social distancing, globalists blah blah, it was like talking to one of you smacking morons irl, that was it.  From then on I've just had enough.

I know I've said it before but I usually calm down and go back to my normal ways, but since then I'm done doing things for others. 

bugger em.  Mateship is a lie.

The only important thing is mine and my own.

I'm sick of giving to people who only take.

The only exception is a few of my elderly neighbours who I still check in on, help with their shopping if they don't want to do a whole delivery order which they struggle to bring in anyway, help with their Bins every week (even pay to get them cleaned with mine) but I guess they're in my circle, I consider them my own.

But I'm just tired of being exploited by people like you Scoot.  So bugger em.  Money can be replaced, by my time can't.  I'm not wasting it on front bottoms any longer. 

You can call it ugly, I call it freeing.

Mateship is a lie, why pretend otherwise.

All aquascoot cares about (i.e. enjoys) is seeing newborn babies murders by the IDF.

NSW "Health" are still at it!

https://nitter.net/NSWHealth/status/1727144928671588486#m


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COVID-19 transmission continues to increase in NSW, with community transmission now moderate to high. Do you need to refresh your COVID-safe behaviours to stop the spread of illness and protect others?

"Be kind to those who choose to wear a mask"

That's 3 times in the past week... they have to be just taking the piss now, surely?

Let's see what the esteemed Dr. David Berger (a real medical doctor) has to say about that, shall we?

https://nitter.net/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1727244617102590075#m


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In what way does "[Being] kind to those who choose to wear a mask" help you stay "Covid safe"? WHY DON'T YOU TELL PEOPLE TO WEAR A MASK? And an N95 at that?

Yes, why don't they?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 5:18pm:

All aquascoot cares about (i.e. enjoys) is seeing newborn babies murders by the IDF.

You are one very sad pathetic attention seeker, if ever there was one on this Forum.  ;D  ;D

And...

...while aquascoot believes this section of OzPolitic should be closed because Covid is such a tiny problem (and keeps going on about "personal responsibility" ;D) back in the real world we have this:

COVID cases are surging again but there are lots of ways to protect yourself — starting with wearing a mask


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Unfortunately, SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID), has not mutated into just a trivial cold.

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As well as causing symptoms in the initial phase — which can be especially serious for people who are vulnerable — the virus can lead to chronic illness in people of any age and health status due to its ability to affect blood vessels, the heart, lungs, brain and immune system. COVID and its ongoing effects are contributing to substantial disability in society. Loss of productivity due to long COVID is affecting workforce and economies. While public messaging to "live with COVID" has seemingly encouraged us to move on from the pandemic, SARS-CoV-2 has other ideas. It has continued to mutate, become more contagious, and to evade the protection offered by vaccines. COVID is not endemic, but is an epidemic virus like influenza or measles, so we can expect waves to keep coming. With this in mind, it's definitely worth protecting yourself — particularly when cases are rising.

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We know SARS-CoV-2 transmits through the air we breathe. We also know a lot of the transmission risk is from people without symptoms, so you can't tell who around you is infectious. This provides strong rationale for universal masking during periods of high transmission.

Need to print that out and stick it on every hand sanitiser 'station' in shopping centres around Australia.


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Masks do work. A Cochrane review suggesting they don't was flawed and subject to an apology. Masks work equally to protecting others and protecting you. By visualising human exhalations too tiny to see with the naked eye, my colleagues and I showed how masks prevent outward emissions and how each layer of a mask improves this. The most protective kind of mask is a respirator or N95, but any mask protects more than no mask. Wearing a mask when visiting health-care or aged-care facilities is important. Wearing a mask at the shops, on public transport and in other crowded indoor settings will improve your chances of having a COVID-free Christmas.

(The highlighted part is for Baronvonrort).

Great advice.

But, will 99.9% of the population follow it? Nah, of course not... thanks to the total (deliberate) abandoning of public health by our governments.

Carl D wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2023 at 10:30am:

But, will 99.9% of the population follow it? Nah, of course not... thanks to the total (deliberate) abandoning of public health by our governments.

No, they wouldn't, but it's not just because of that.

In the country of "mateship", if wearing a mask when directed to in public is too much to ask for, you know the whole tenant of mateship is a lie.

I've pulled right back from any sort of community work, even caring about other people since my good nature routinely gets exploited.

I only care about those in my circle now.

The rest can fall victim to their own actions and I won't shed a tear.

This idiot Paul Kelly couldn't predict that the sun was going to rise in the morning as far as I'm concerned (same as aquascoot's hero in Queensland).

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1732924055643377795#m


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CMO @PKelly_CBR claims he predicted 3 waves this year Yet where was his advice to procure XBB.1.5 vaccines prior to the explosion of transmission we now face? Kelly and his boss @Mark_Butler_MP must resign or be sacked Their incompetence killed 4,000 last Xmas Rinse. Repeat.

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Kelly added “govt was not looking to introduce compulsory mask wearing” People are seriously ill / dying, we still have no updated vaccines that WORK - and the @AlboMP Govt response is DO NOTHING Think about that for a minute

Yes, I am... and I'm still trying to work out if our spineless, pathetic governments are more afraid of big business or the army of "cookers" (who will no doubt go on a nationwide rampage screaming things like "BUT WHAT ABOUT MY FREEDUMB???!!!!!) if governments tried to reintroduce mandatory masks and other Covid protections.

Also...


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The Snail @myhomeismyshell 3h Replying to @LettersfromTim @PKelly_CBR @Mark_Butler_MP Nothing keeps the economy ticking like a good old fashioned covid cover up. It's not just a new Christmas wave, it's here ALL THE TIME FOR ALL OF THE YEAR! Idiots

Yes, yes it is. And Kelly, Butler, Albanese and everyone else in their gang of social murderers know it.

And, finally... from the esteemed Dr. David Berger (a real medical doctor):

https://nitter.net/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1733103386763969014#m


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Low rent Nostradamus

;D ;D ;D Bullseye!

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A must read for every Queenslander (and everyone else in Australia).

Letter to QLD CHO from AMAQ


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Patients are becoming unnecessarily infected & in some cases, dying as a result Infection control settings across Qld Health are insufficient HAI data is not reflecting the true rate of infections

No response from Dr. Gerrard so far (he'd be worried about upsetting Annastacia and the tourism industry of course - especially this close to Christmas).


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Mariana @Mariana__Mi 39m Replying to @oskaandme Isn’t there anything we can do using the legal route in this neglect of basic public health & safety? Do we have any rights to protection, or is it purely at the discretion of govt of the  day or Dept staff?

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Mel @oskaandme 9m Replying to @Mariana__Mi Not qualified to answer that, sorry. Considering cookers have brought (ridiculous & unsuccessful) legal actions against state govt health depts, you'd think someone in the legal profession would find a way to advocate for Team Reality.🤷🏼

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LM @Lyn60139787 28m Replying to @oskaandme Litigation can’t be far away. You literally cannot access safe healthcare - having investigations can lead to death from HAI C-19 (particularly if you are not able to mask for it/ unable to mask like my father). Staff won’t mask on request - totally f**ked- antithesis of health

I'm hoping the litigation will start coming in thick and fast soon - all around Australia.

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And, from the esteemed Dr. David Berger again.

https://nitter.net/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1733250310490218527#m


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This is an absolute blockbuster letter from the doctors' leader in Queensland to the state's Chief Health Officer, demanding infection control measures in hospitals to prevent hospital acquired COVID infection. Please read and share.

And...


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This is from November 14th. There has still been no action and things are much worse now.

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Step and fetch @FetchStep 1h Replying to @YouAreLobbyLud A nurse mate is back in full PPe for covid patients , she told me other nurses and patients have approached her to ask questions while she is still in that PPe . "oh we don't believe in that stuff anymore " is the answer she gets when they are told to move away . We are doomed .

Yes, apparently we are.

I have a neighbour who waters her garden every afternoon with a mask on.  I'm sure you can see some benefit to her doing that.  I can't and think it's absurd.

If you want to wear a mask wear one.  No-one's stopping you.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 5:18pm:

All aquascoot cares about (i.e. enjoys) is seeing newborn babies murders by the IDF.

*shakes head*

Evidence that progressive leftism is an odious disease.

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 9^th, 2023 at 10:44am:

I have a neighbour who waters her garden every afternoon with a mask on.  I'm sure you can see some benefit to her doing that.  I can't and think it's absurd. If you want to wear a mask wear one.  No-one's stopping you.

Indeed.

But, as I (and others) have said many times before... unless it's mandated then the majority of people won't do it. And our governments and big business know it.

And the few people who are "in the know" and are masking to protect themselves and others are being mocked, even by our so called "Health" Departments.

Exhibit A


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COVID-19 transmission continues to increase in NSW, with community transmission now moderate to high. Do you need to refresh your COVID-safe habits to stop the spread of illness and protect others?

"Be kind to people who choose to wear a mask"

What the actual f... is this garbage?

Perhaps we should also abolish mandatory seatbelts in cars but make sure we're kind to people who choose to wear them?

And a lot of sickness and death is happening as a result of this ongoing crap.

If these so called Health Departments around Australia can't/won't do their job and advise people about the ongoing dangers of Covid and how to properly reduce the risk of getting it then perhaps these "Health" Departments should be closed down to save the long suffering taxpayers some money?

For every 'expert' who says that masks protect you from Covid there are many more who say they don't.  I've never seen a study saying that seatbelts do not protect you in the case of an accident though.   Have you?

Bottom line, if you want to wear a mask and are convinced it will protect you from others then wear one and you should be fine right?

Do not try to enforce your views on others though.

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 9^th, 2023 at 10:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 5:18pm: All aquascoot cares about (i.e. enjoys) is seeing newborn babies murders by the IDF. *shakes head* Evidence that progressive leftism is an odious disease.

It's cultural Marxism - Greggy is on the list - Reply #697:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1660808671/690

Carl D wrote on Dec 9^th, 2023 at 10:32am:

And, from the esteemed Dr. David Berger again. https://nitter.net/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1733250310490218527#m Quote: This is an absolute blockbuster letter from the doctors' leader in Queensland to the state's Chief Health Officer, demanding infection control measures in hospitals to prevent hospital acquired COVID infection. Please read and share. And... [quote]This is from November 14th. There has still been no action and things are much worse now.

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Step and fetch @FetchStep 1h Replying to @YouAreLobbyLud A nurse mate is back in full PPe for covid patients , she told me other nurses and patients have approached her to ask questions while she is still in that PPe . "oh we don't believe in that stuff anymore " is the answer she gets when they are told to move away . We are doomed .

Yes, apparently we are.[/quote]

dr berger is not esteemed


he has been found guilty by the medical regulator of spreading lies and told he will be deregistered if he doesnt stop lying

why are lefties such liars

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 9^th, 2023 at 11:13am:

Do not try to enforce your views on others though.

No worries.

As long as the antimask/antivax "cooker" army (which sadly is the majority of people nowadays) don't try to "enforce" their views on me.

Which is what a lot of them are trying to do from what I've seen.

But as far as "enforcing" my views here at OzPolitic I'm sure that the half a dozen people (maximum) who read these threads couldn't care less one way or the other.


aquascoot wrote on Dec 9^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

dr berger is not esteemed he has been found guilty by the medical regulator of spreading lies and told he will be deregistered if he doesnt stop lying why are lefties such liars

In that case he will NEVER be deregistered because he isn't lying.

He's speaking the truth which is obviously upsetting quite a few people (including several so called medical 'experts' who should know better).

Carl D wrote on Dec 9^th, 2023 at 1:19pm:

No worries. As long as the antimask/antivax "cooker" army (which sadly is the majority of people nowadays) don't try to "enforce" their views on me. Which is what a lot of them are trying to do from what I've seen.

I've never seen anyone telling anyone else to take their mask off.

If you are convinced you are protected with a mask that's fine but why worry about what others do, or don't do, if you feel you are protected.  It's easy to avoid others if you are fearful.

I respect your right to mask up if you so choose.  I don't respect you calling for a mandate that I should mask up too.

Speaking of the esteemed Dr. Berger... does aquascoot or anyone else think he's lying here?

https://nitter.net/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1733325851314557171#m


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You can fool some of the people all of the time. You can fool all of the people some of the time. But you can never fool an insurance actuary.

https://nitter.net/Greyhoundbob75/status/1733270142656880972#m


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Covid infections & income protection/ life insurance. This is on an Australian insurance site. Covid infection is treated like a pre-existing condition. They don’t ask about past colds or flu. Does the general population know this? I doubt it🫣

I also doubt it.

So... if Covid is a "big nothing burger", "just a cold" and needs to be treated "like any other respiratory illness" why do insurance companies insist on something like this nowadays when they've never asked about colds or flu?

Hmm..

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 9^th, 2023 at 2:45pm:

I've never seen anyone telling anyone else to take their mask off.

You should have been with me and my elderly aunt when I took her to see her GP a year ago shortly after mask mandates were dropped.

The lady on reception looked at both of us in our masks and the first thing she said was "You don't need to wear those anymore".

Being the polite person I am all I said was "Actually, I think we'll keep them on, thanks" and she said "Oh, OK".

Good thing she didn't say the same thing when I went to the same medical practice a few weeks later to see my GP. She was one of 3 ladies on the reception desk and one of the other two was clearly sick - coughing and sneezing everywhere. Unmasked of course same as everyone else there apart from a couple of the GP's.

I might not have been quite so polite if I'd been told "you don't need to wear that mask anymore" that day.

I've heard/seen similar stories from other people too.

You should have rubbed it in Carl.

I still wear a mask whenever I enter a bank.

Carl D wrote on Dec 9^th, 2023 at 3:05pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 9th, 2023 at 2:45pm: I've never seen anyone telling anyone else to take their mask off. You should have been with me and my elderly aunt when I took her to see her GP a year ago shortly after mask mandates were dropped. The lady on reception looked at both of us in our masks and the first thing she said was "You don't need to wear those anymore". Being the polite person I am all I said was "Actually, I think we'll keep them on, thanks" and she said "Oh, OK". Good thing she didn't say the same thing when I went to the same medical practice a few weeks later to see my GP. She was one of 3 ladies on the reception desk and one of the other two was clearly sick - coughing and sneezing everywhere. Unmasked of course same as everyone else there apart from a couple of the GP's. I might not have been quite so polite if I'd been told "you don't need to wear that mask anymore" that day. I've heard/seen similar stories from other people too.

I'd be finding a new medical practice if that's the case.

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 9^th, 2023 at 3:47pm:

I'd be finding a new medical practice if that's the case.

Yes, I did think about that for a while.

Unfortunately, finding a medical practice and GP where masks are enforced would be like looking for a needle in a haystack these days.

I strongly suspect that after government imposed mask mandates were scrapped last year medical practices and GP's were worried that if they continued to require patients and staff to wear masks they could lose patients (paying customers) and maybe staff to those who didn't - which was most of them.

All about money as usual. And our governments and business (deliberately) 'selling' masks as restrictions rather than protections to a gullible population.

The priority of the Medical World being of most importance around the world, during the Covid (Corona Virus) Pandemic has been brushed under the carpet by the priority of emergence of all things Military heading for a World War to say that the Military is of more importance than anything Medical (and Media, its 'ally'). Even the 'medically/Covid' Democrats are being shoved aside by the people of the USA and their hopeful reindorsement of Donald Trump come later as Sir Donald Trump as bestowed in gratitude by Great Britain. What an amazing Political story he has become that will go down in History as someone who knew better for the USA than their own Governments - he who conquered 'both' Parties.

Now we see, with more Viruses emerging in much the same devastating way (like a Computer compromised by Viruses... because Androids of the future can die from 'viruses' too, beyond 'repair') - the World and enslaved Media no longer pay attention to such things and the World is thus compromised now, to face the Pandemics that are coming to us now, with little more than our 'immunity' to protect us and isolate us from its effects - but not as how this Continent is 'isolated' and became the most virulent region on the world.
You got to 'outsmart' these Viruses with knowledge more-so though. ;)

I see Annastacia has resigned as Queensland Premier.

Is she the last of the rats to desert the sinking ship SS Australia as a Covid tsunami engulfs the country?

Like the rest of the Premiers who resigned I get the impression she knows what's coming - an eventual Covid Royal Commission (after the upcoming sham of a Covid inquiry).

But, bailing out won't save her from being held accountable for her part in the 23,000 Australian Covid deaths so far (3,375 in Queensland), same as the present and former Prime Minister and Premiers.

The WA Premier, Roger Cook has also paid tribute to Annastacia.

Hey, aquascoot... here's Tim the ex virologist's reply. Perhaps you could "shoot off a quick email" to your hero and show it to him (he doesn't have a Twitter account and probably just as well for him).

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1733691551065477269#m


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QLD was kept safe by Dr Jeannette Young @AnnastaciaMP then appointed John “Lex Luthor” Gerrard who’s failed herd immunity experiment has killed thousands

Here's another reply with a very appropriate image.

https://nitter.net/_marching_Ents_/status/1733711947533873218#m


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She retires as a Labor villain, and only as a champion for Queensland's Level 3 SARS-CoV-2 virus variants that will have dire, long term consequences for Public Health.

"scribbler Of Oz " is a lady, by the way.

You're welcome.

Edit: and...

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1733700418100961479#m


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Running for cover like @MarkMcGowanMP and @DanielAndrewsMP The reckoning is coming and they don’t have the stomach to face the consequences of their actions - their failure to protect the public

Yep. Spot on!

Yes, I'm sure they would.

Trouble is, as I've said many times... governments (assisted by the media) have shot themselves in the foot by making everyone believe Covid isn't anything to worry about nowadays "it's just a cold".

‘We keep throwing vaccines out, I’d rather get them into arms’


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Doctors and pharmacists are seeing a surge in requests for COVID-19 vaccines ahead of the Christmas break amid concerns about higher rates of the virus and visiting vulnerable loved ones. Indicators such as sewage monitoring, test positivity rates and hospital activity suggest the virus has been circulating at higher levels since the start of November.

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The pharmacy also has a waitlist of people wanting to receive the new monovalent – or “XBB.1.5-containing” – vaccines, which are better targeted to current variants of the virus. The federal government has said these new vaccines will be available from this week. Santos said many of the people seeking a vaccine were not being urged to by the latest advice but wanted to receive it anyway before travelling or visiting vulnerable family at Christmas.

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Santos said the recommendations had become confusing for the public to follow. “The sad thing is, we keep throwing vaccines out. I’d rather get them into arms.” Information provided by the federal government to pharmacies in its community pharmacy COVID-19 vaccination program stated the final doses of the Moderna bivalent vaccine ordered into Australia will expire on December 20.

My advice - don't get another Covid vaccination before December 20th because the 'old' bivalent vaccines are almost useless at protecting against the latest variants.

Mind you, there's emerging evidence that the JN.1 variant even evades the new monovalent vaccine.

https://nitter.net/maarlev95759/status/1733770177039282637#m


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Furthermore, JN.1 shows a robust resistance to monovalent XBB.1.5 vaccine sera🔥 These results suggest that JN.1 is one of the most immune-evading variants to date. S:L455S can contribute to increased immune evasion, which partly explains the increased Re of JN.1. 7/7

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Bad news: the rapidly rising/already dominant sublineage JN.1 seems to be very highly immune-evading! The recent monovalent XBB.1.5 vaccine doesn`t seem to give much protection against JN.1 ! Protect yourself and others around you by wearing a FFP2/3 (=KN95/98) mask, if possible!

As for Australia? "No worries - she'll be right mate".  ::)

There was a discussion here some time ago about the perspex screens used in the supermarket checkouts and whether or not they made any difference to the spread of Covid (or the flu for that matter).

They didn't of course but the conclusion was that they at least provided a measure of security for the checkout staff... protecting them from abusive customers.

Can't remember if it was a separate thread or it was discussed in another thread?

Anyway, I've noticed that Woolworths have removed the perspex screens from their checkouts a few weeks ago. Not sure if Coles have done the same yet but if they haven't I'm certain they will follow very soon.

Same as those pointless 'keep a 1.5 meter distance' stickers that were on the floors in the supermarkets and other shops (Red Dot always used to make me laugh with their 'one way' stickers on the floor at each end of their aisles - an arrow at one end and No Entry at the other in alternate aisles - which most people ignored anyway, same as the 1.5 meter signs). They're all gone too although I suspect most of them simply wore off from foot traffic.

Can't have anything left to remind people of the Covid pandemic now, can we? Even if the pandemic is still raging and probably getting worse.

Hey, look... here's some more of that awesome "personal responsibility" I keep hearing about.

Flying Soon? From Mirella Sarah, PhD


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HCWs have informed me privately in recent days of patients who are Covid positive with plans to fly both domestically and internationally, despite being very ill Because of this, you should strongly consider using a snug fitting N95 mask on flights & avoid meals

Yes, you should. But 99.9% of people won't.

Make sure you read the replies as well.

(HCW = Health Care Worker, by the way).

And... from the esteemed Dr. David Berger.

Yes, I am absolutely sure there is (read the replies there too, especially this one).

And many more would be infected by the end of the flights... including some or all of the airline crew... and then the airlines and passengers wonder why so many flights are being delayed or cancelled these days due to staff shortages.

hay carl

i get your anger

you trusted the authorities who said " this all goes away when we get enough jabs in arms "

i must have heard dan and gladys say it 1000 times

smart people like aquascoot knew this was a lie

we preached "personal responsibility" which is actually what your beloved authorities are now telling you .

and you hate personal respoonsibility because it requires you to grow a spine and not be treated like an infant

but if you would just accept reality you could use this as an opportunity to man up

i know dr berger (now discredited) has taken over the role of your mummy and daddy and promises to keep you safe.

he cant

in the end you have to realise that its on YOU to act like a man

"hay" aquascoot  ::)

Yes, that's all very well but I'm wondering what your thoughts are about people who travel interstate and overseas (in and out of the country) in sealed metal tubes while knowingly infected with a virus called SARS-CoV-2 which is still classed as a Level 3 Biohazard (one level above the flu and one below Ebola) and in at least one case apparently couldn't care less?

A virus which has caused 23,000 deaths in Australia so far and millions of deaths worldwide not to mention all of the sickness and millions of current and future Long Covid cases.

Of course, my guess would be that most or all of them couldn't care less and the airlines obviously don't ($$$$ again).

And, again... a large part of this is caused by the almost total lack of information being provided about Covid cases, hospitalisations and deaths by governments (and the media) these days which, once again, makes a mockery of governments (and others) telling people to "use personal responsibility" and "assess your own risk" with Covid.

No wonder the flu has been running rampant around the world for the best part of the last century and now we have SARS-CoV-2 joining it and that will probably be here for at least the next century, if not forever seeing as it is constantly mutating and no attempts are being made to slow or stop it anymore.

I'm wondering how long it will be before it mutates into a variant with something like a 50% fatality rate and I also wonder if our useless governments will finally make some attempt to do something about it if it does?

Oh, and...


aquascoot wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 5:19am:

you trusted the authorities who said " this all goes away when we get enough jabs in arms "

Actually - no, I didn't.

I knew that wasn't going to happen right from the start but governments and big business either deliberately or unintentionally lied to everyone (I'm still going with the first one) for the sake of the economy. Just like what happened - and is still happening - in the UK.

If you're not worried and taking precautions like wearing a mask when there's a lot of people around then you should be.

https://nitter.net/drclairetaylor/status/1733832839777452504#m


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If you input the @StatCan_eng data into @DavidSteadson graph you get 14.6%  first infection get long Covid 38% by 3rd infection- the modelling curves were correct. This is literally insane.

This is for Canada but it would apply equally to Australia and the rest of the world.

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Carl D wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:26am:

"hay" aquascoot  ::) Yes, that's all very well but I'm wondering what your thoughts are about people who travel interstate and overseas (in and out of the country) in sealed metal tubes while knowingly infected with a virus called SARS-CoV-2 which is still classed as a Level 3 Biohazard (one level above the flu and one below Ebola) and in at least one case apparently couldn't care less? A virus which has caused 23,000 deaths in Australia so far and millions of deaths worldwide not to mention all of the sickness and millions of current and future Long Covid cases. Of course, my guess would be that most or all of them couldn't care less and the airlines obviously don't ($$$$ again). And, again... a large part of this is caused by the almost total lack of information being provided about Covid cases, hospitalisations and deaths by governments (and the media) these days which, once again, makes a mockery of governments (and others) telling people to "use personal responsibility" and "assess your own risk" with Covid. No wonder the flu has been running rampant around the world for the best part of the last century and now we have SARS-CoV-2 joining it and that will probably be here for at least the next century, if not forever seeing as it is constantly mutating and no attempts are being made to slow or stop it anymore. I'm wondering how long it will be before it mutates into a variant with something like a 50% fatality rate and I also wonder if our useless governments will finally make some attempt to do something about it if it does? Oh, and... aquascoot wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 5:19am: you trusted the authorities who said " this all goes away when we get enough jabs in arms " Actually - no, I didn't. I knew that wasn't going to happen right from the start but governments and big business either deliberately or unintentionally lied to everyone (I'm still going with the first one) for the sake of the economy. Just like what happened - and is still happening - in the UK.

But if you wear a mask you're protected right?

Did a report really say masks don’t help prevent the spread of COVID?

A study published by the Cochrane Library earlier this
year, which appeared to raise questions about the efficacy
of masks, has also been thrown into the limelight.

The report, published in January, included trials which
compared medical/surgical masks versus no masks in
the prevention of the spread of viral respiratory illness.

The results from those trials indicated that "wearing
masks in the community probably makes little or no
difference to the outcome of influenza‐like illness".

However, the report’s conclusion urged caution and said
there was "a high risk of bias in the trials, variation in
outcome measurement, and relatively low adherence with
the interventions during the studies hampers drawing
firm conclusions".

Carl D wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 10:42am:

If you're not worried and taking precautions like wearing a mask when there's a lot of people around then you should be. https://nitter.net/drclairetaylor/status/1733832839777452504#m Quote: If you input the @StatCan_eng data into @DavidSteadson graph you get 14.6%  first infection get long Covid 38% by 3rd infection- the modelling curves were correct. This is literally insane. This is for Canada but it would apply equally to Australia and the rest of the world.

carl, i'm calling BS on 14.6 % of people getting long covid.

some people just like to get around in their pyjamas and covid is a good excuse.

i know 100's of people that have had it and not one suffered this "social contagion"

aquascoot wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 1:46pm:

carl, i'm calling BS on 14.6 % of people getting long covid. some people just like to get around in their pyjamas and covid is a good excuse. i know 100's of people that have had it and not one suffered this "social contagion"

https://nitter.net/lisa_iannattone/status/1733236471207772211#m


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StatCan just dropped a bombshell report on LC. This is the most important figure. It highlights that the risk of long term symptoms is cumulative, it increases with increasing number of infections. By 3+ infections, 38% report long term symptoms — that’s 1 in every 2.6 people. 🤯

https://nitter.net/lisa_iannattone/status/1733237143596642447#m


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Right now 1 in every 9 Canadians has long covid. 80% have symptoms for longer than 6 months and 50% just never recovered. Full report here: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/75-006-x/2023001/article/00015-eng.htm

As I said... it would be almost exactly the same for Australia and the rest of the world.

You shouldn't be so quick to believe everything you read on social media.


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Flawed body of research indicates true ‘long COVID’ risk likely exaggerated Overly broad definitions and lack of comparator groups have distorted risk, say researchers Leading to increased public anxiety and healthcare spend; misdiagnoses; diversion of funds Major flaws in the current body of published research on ‘long COVID’ have likely greatly exaggerated the true risks of developing the condition, suggests an analysis published in BMJ Evidence Based Medicine. Overly broad definitions, a lack of appropriate, or any, comparison groups, among other things, in studies looking at the incidence, prevalence, and control of the condition—epidemiology—have distorted the risks, say the researchers. This is further compounded by inclusion of poorly conducted studies into systematic reviews and pooled data analyses that end up overstating the risk yet again, they add. The likely consequences of this include, but aren’t limited to, increased public anxiety and healthcare spend; misdiagnoses; and diversion of funds from those who really do have other long term conditions secondary to COVID-19 infection, suggest the researchers.

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/flawed-body-of-research-indicates-true-long-covid-risk-likely-exaggerated/

BMJ is a peer reviewed medical journal.

aquascoot wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 1:46pm:

...Carl, I'm calling BS on 14.6 % of people getting long covid.

The Australian long COVID probabilities were obtained
from studies conducted in NSW and by the Office of
the National Statistics in the UK.

A recent population-based cohort study in NSW following
94% of the confirmed cases between April and July 2020
found that 20% of the COVID survivors still experienced
symptoms within a month and around 5% at three months.

Meanwhile, in the UK, the COVID infection survey was
conducted following 21,622 participants who tested
positive from swab tests. The study noted Long COVID
prevalence of 22.1% and 9.8% at five and 12 weeks
respectively and was later updated to 21.0% at five weeks
and 13.7% at three months.

—Institute for Health Transformation, Deakin University, May 2021.

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 3:04pm:

You shouldn't be so quick to believe everything you read on social media.

I don't.

Dr. Lisa Iannattone knows her stuff.

And the report she linked to isn't on social media.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/75-006-x/2023001/article/00015-eng.htm

Experiences of Canadians with long-term symptoms following COVID-19

by Sianne Kuang, Steven Earl, Janine Clarke, Dianne Zakaria, Alain Demers, and Samina Aziz

Release date: December 8, 2023

aquascoot wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 1:46pm:

i know 100's of people that have had it and not one suffered this "social contagion"

Please keep us up to date on their progress over the next few years.

Especially if they get infected more than once. And extra especially if they haven't been vaccinated or they're not up to date with their vaccinations.

Thanks.

Carl D wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 3:54pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 1:46pm: i know 100's of people that have had it and not one suffered this "social contagion" Please keep us up to date on their progress over the next few years. Especially if they get infected more than once. And extra especially if they haven't been vaccinated or they're not up to date with their vaccinations. Thanks.

If they stay away from McDonald's and crispy Kreme doughnuts
If they hit the gym
If they do some intense physical exercise three times a week
They will probably be healthy

In other words
We must not discount the important aspect of

Personal responsibility

People mentioned on facebook that they caught covid at the local pool. It must be going around. I will have to get my mask ready before I do my next work shift.

aquascoot wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:10pm:

If they stay away from McDonald's and crispy Kreme doughnuts If they hit the gym If they do some intense physical exercise three times a week They will probably be healthy In other words We must not discount the important aspect of Personal responsibility

Listen to the Doctor.

https://nitter.net/hollystortholme/status/1734481012460245210#m


Quote:

For those who had Covid, consider getting lipid profile and basic bloods done. Just saw a young patient with heart attack. Fit and well previously. Had Covid infections x2. No family history. This is not normal. Covid attacks blood vessels. Wear a mask! You deserve clean air.

Holly Stortholme
@hollystortholme

COVID IS AIRBORNE, BSL 3 virus. Always masked indoors/outdoors. Zerocovista. Tired GP because of bad govt messaging making more people sick.

Carl D wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:55pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:10pm: If they stay away from McDonald's and crispy Kreme doughnuts If they hit the gym If they do some intense physical exercise three times a week They will probably be healthy In other words We must not discount the important aspect of Personal responsibility Listen to the Doctor.

He's already decided what he wants to believe.

The only thing that will change his mind is a Herman Cain Award.

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 10:51pm:

Carl D wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:55pm: aquascoot wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:10pm: If they stay away from McDonald's and crispy Kreme doughnuts If they hit the gym If they do some intense physical exercise three times a week They will probably be healthy In other words We must not discount the important aspect of Personal responsibility Listen to the Doctor. He's already decided what he wants to believe. The only thing that will change his mind is a Herman Cain Award.

If yourself and Karl and six Japanese tourists want to get around in masks then go for it
You have already decided what you wanted to decide
But don't be telling the rest of us that we are the fringe dwelling conspiracy theorists
When clearly you are the weirdos who have gone down a hypercondriacal rabbit hole

aquascoot wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 5:30am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 10:51pm: Carl D wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:55pm: aquascoot wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:10pm: If they stay away from McDonald's and crispy Kreme doughnuts If they hit the gym If they do some intense physical exercise three times a week They will probably be healthy In other words We must not discount the important aspect of Personal responsibility Listen to the Doctor. He's already decided what he wants to believe. The only thing that will change his mind is a Herman Cain Award. If yourself and Karl and six Japanese tourists want to get around in masks then go for it You have already decided what you wanted to decide But don't be telling the rest of us that we are the fringe dwelling conspiracy theorists When clearly you are the weirdos who have gone down a hypercondriacal rabbit hole

It is not about being fringe, or introducing race to ridicule others, the simple fact is, that you don't like being told what to do and no amount of evidence will change your mind because you're a stubborn old prick who would rather see people die than being told to stay home in the early days of the virus when we didn't know enough about it.  What we did know set off alarm bells, but you "knew" it was only the sniffles, so bugger everyone else.

There's that aussie mateship...

As long as you personally don't have to take any responsibility for your actions, while championing "personal responsibility", that's all that matters.

If Scoot can do what he wants, who cares what happens to anyone else.  Unless they're women, then in the world of personal responsibility, it's all still their fault.

You'd think personal responsibility comes with accountability, but it's interesting how often he blame shifts to others.

So in terms of COVID, he won't change his story unless he's walking up to the stage to collect a Herman Cain award, and even then, he probably would ride that rollercoaster all the way to hell screaming "it's just the sniffles!!!".

aquascoot wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:10pm:

...If they stay away from McDonald's and crispy Kreme doughnuts If they hit the gym If they do some intense physical exercise three times a week They will probably be healthy In other words We must not discount the important aspect of Personal responsibility

No... avoiding junk food and exercising will not prevent
and/or preclude suffering from long COVID symptoms.

Suffering from long COVID also has nothing to do with
"personal responsibility".

Considering the plethora of informed medical data
available across the internet, I can't understand why
you repeatedly make so many nonsensical claims about
COVID and its vaccinations, and their alleged effects.

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 6:57am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 13th, 2023 at 5:30am: SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 10:51pm: Carl D wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:55pm: aquascoot wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:10pm: If they stay away from McDonald's and crispy Kreme doughnuts If they hit the gym If they do some intense physical exercise three times a week They will probably be healthy In other words We must not discount the important aspect of Personal responsibility Listen to the Doctor. He's already decided what he wants to believe. The only thing that will change his mind is a Herman Cain Award. If yourself and Karl and six Japanese tourists want to get around in masks then go for it You have already decided what you wanted to decide But don't be telling the rest of us that we are the fringe dwelling conspiracy theorists When clearly you are the weirdos who have gone down a hypercondriacal rabbit hole It is not about being fringe, or introducing race to ridicule others, the simple fact is, that you don't like being told what to do and no amount of evidence will change your mind because you're a stubborn old prick who would rather see people die than being told to stay home in the early days of the virus when we didn't know enough about it.  What we did know set off alarm bells, but you "knew" it was only the sniffles, so bugger everyone else. There's that aussie mateship... As long as you personally don't have to take any responsibility for your actions, while championing "personal responsibility", that's all that matters. If Scoot can do what he wants, who cares what happens to anyone else.  Unless they're women, then in the world of personal responsibility, it's all still their fault. You'd think personal responsibility comes with accountability, but it's interesting how often he blame shifts to others. So in terms of COVID, he won't change his story unless he's walking up to the stage to collect a Herman Cain award, and even then, he probably would ride that rollercoaster all the way to hell screaming "it's just the sniffles!!!".

incorrect

your position and carls position is nothing about mateship and all about selfish "me,me,me" .

a mate wouldnt want to see his friends who own a gym or a resturant driven into bankruptcy by rediculous lockdowns

a mate wouldnt want to see the teenagers in his street miss out on playing team sports and seeing their friends

a mate wouldnt want loved ones to be seperated and call for qantas to never fly because they might spread a germ


"me,me,me " is what your philosophy is about

totally selfish

i do believe carl and yourself would have tossed kids out of lifeboats on the titanic because old people , like yourselves see yourself as living gems

total narcissicists  ::) ::)

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 2:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:10pm: ...If they stay away from McDonald's and crispy Kreme doughnuts If they hit the gym If they do some intense physical exercise three times a week They will probably be healthy In other words We must not discount the important aspect of Personal responsibility No... avoiding junk food and exercising will not prevent and/or preclude suffering from long COVID symptoms. Suffering from long COVID also has nothing to do with "personal responsibility". Considering the plethora of informed medical data available across the internet, I can't understand why you repeatedly make so many nonsensical claims about COVID and its vaccinations, and their alleged effects.

are you talking about the data that said obesity was the number one risk factor for hospitalisation  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

aquascoot wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 2:26pm:

i do believe carl and yourself would have tossed kids out of lifeboats on the titanic because old people , like yourselves see yourself as living gems total narcissicists  ::) ::)

Congratulations.

That would have to be the most stupid thing you've ever posted here.

And it's had some tough competition for first place from some of your other stupid posts during the past few years, believe me.

Here's your trophy.

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Carl D wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 3:04pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 13th, 2023 at 2:26pm: i do believe carl and yourself would have tossed kids out of lifeboats on the titanic because old people , like yourselves see yourself as living gems total narcissicists  ::) ::) Congratulations. That would have to be the most stupid thing you've ever posted here. And it's had some tough competition for first place from some of your other stupid posts during the past few years, believe me. Here's your trophy.

come on carl

you do nothing except say that the rest of society needs to put their life on hold to make sure your health is prioritised.

is that not the case  ::)

Reckon there will be a New Wave of Medical threats every decade like there is of Music Trends every decade.
::)

aquascoot wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 2:26pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 13th, 2023 at 6:57am: aquascoot wrote on Dec 13th, 2023 at 5:30am: SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 10:51pm: Carl D wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:55pm: aquascoot wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:10pm: If they stay away from McDonald's and crispy Kreme doughnuts If they hit the gym If they do some intense physical exercise three times a week They will probably be healthy In other words We must not discount the important aspect of Personal responsibility Listen to the Doctor. He's already decided what he wants to believe. The only thing that will change his mind is a Herman Cain Award. If yourself and Karl and six Japanese tourists want to get around in masks then go for it You have already decided what you wanted to decide But don't be telling the rest of us that we are the fringe dwelling conspiracy theorists When clearly you are the weirdos who have gone down a hypercondriacal rabbit hole It is not about being fringe, or introducing race to ridicule others, the simple fact is, that you don't like being told what to do and no amount of evidence will change your mind because you're a stubborn old prick who would rather see people die than being told to stay home in the early days of the virus when we didn't know enough about it.  What we did know set off alarm bells, but you "knew" it was only the sniffles, so bugger everyone else. There's that aussie mateship... As long as you personally don't have to take any responsibility for your actions, while championing "personal responsibility", that's all that matters. If Scoot can do what he wants, who cares what happens to anyone else.  Unless they're women, then in the world of personal responsibility, it's all still their fault. You'd think personal responsibility comes with accountability, but it's interesting how often he blame shifts to others. So in terms of COVID, he won't change his story unless he's walking up to the stage to collect a Herman Cain award, and even then, he probably would ride that rollercoaster all the way to hell screaming "it's just the sniffles!!!". incorrect your position and carls position is nothing about mateship and all about selfish "me,me,me" . a mate wouldnt want to see his friends who own a gym or a resturant driven into bankruptcy by rediculous lockdowns a mate wouldnt want to see the teenagers in his street miss out on playing team sports and seeing their friends a mate wouldnt want loved ones to be seperated and call for qantas to never fly because they might spread a germ "me,me,me " is what your philosophy is about totally selfish

If we knew then what we know now it's possible your take isn't absolute dog poo.

The problem is, at the time we didn't.

Teenagers playing team sports is not more important than peoples lives.

I lost a 50% stake in a cafe during lockdowns, it sucks, but it's only money.

But at the time front bottoms like you boasted about not wearing their masks and those less cowardly than you would do this in person, harassing staff and possibly spreading the virus even further.

You think you have some moral authority to accuse others of being selfish?

smacking hilarious.


Quote:

i do believe carl and yourself would have tossed kids out of lifeboats on the titanic because old people , like yourselves see yourself as living gems total narcissicists  ::) ::)

There is a difference between saving a child's life vs them kicking a ball around...

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 10:24pm:

But at the time front bottoms like you boasted about not wearing their masks and those less cowardly than you would do this in person, harassing staff and possibly spreading the virus even further.

Masks don't work why are you ignoring the science with this?


Quote:

Association between face mask use and risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection: Cross-sectional study Published online by Cambridge University Press:  13 November 2023 Abstract We examined the association between face masks and risk of infection with SARS-CoV-2 using cross-sectional data from 3,209 participants in a randomized trial exploring the effectiveness of glasses in reducing the risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection. Face mask use was based on participants’ response to the end-of-follow-up survey. We found that the incidence of self-reported COVID-19 was 33% (aRR 1.33; 95% CI 1.03–1.72) higher in those wearing face masks often or sometimes, and 40% (aRR 1.40; 95% CI 1.08–1.82) higher in those wearing face masks almost always or always, compared to participants who reported wearing face masks never or almost never. Results Main results The main findings are summarized in Table 2. The crude estimates show a higher incidence of testing positive for COVID-19 in the groups that used face masks more frequently, with 8.6% of participants having never or almost never used masks, 15.0% having sometimes used masks, and 15.1% having almost always or always used masks reporting a positive test result. The risk was 1.74 (1.38 to 2.18) times higher in those who wore face masks often or sometimes, and 1.75 (1.39 to 2.21) times higher in those who wore face masks almost always or always, compared to participants who reported never or almost never wore masks (reference group). Discussion In this cross-sectional study of 3,231 participants, we observed that persons who reported wearing a face mask sometimes/often or almost always/always had a 33% (95% CI 3% to 72%) and 40% (95% CI 8% to 82%) higher incidence of self-reported COVID-19 compared to those who never or almost never wore face masks, adjusting for available relevant confounders. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-infection/article/association-between-face-mask-use-and-risk-of-sarscov2-infection-crosssectional-study/0525AD535D10FDCDF0C52603B50E7A1E

Masks don't work this recent study shows you're more likely to get covid if you wear a mask than if you don't.

If masks worked you would expect to see a massive reduction this study shows masks increase the risk of catching covid.

The covidiots never learn.
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 10:46pm:

...Masks don't work this recent study shows you're more likely to get covid if you wear a mask than if you don't. If masks worked you would expect to see a massive reduction this study shows masks increase the risk of catching covid. The covidiots never learn.

I don't agree with your assessment of the study, but I'm
about to hit the farter, so will respond later today.    8-)

Surfers are immune to the latest wave.

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 10:24pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 13th, 2023 at 2:26pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 13th, 2023 at 6:57am: aquascoot wrote on Dec 13th, 2023 at 5:30am: SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 10:51pm: Carl D wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:55pm: aquascoot wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:10pm: If they stay away from McDonald's and crispy Kreme doughnuts If they hit the gym If they do some intense physical exercise three times a week They will probably be healthy In other words We must not discount the important aspect of Personal responsibility Listen to the Doctor. He's already decided what he wants to believe. The only thing that will change his mind is a Herman Cain Award. If yourself and Karl and six Japanese tourists want to get around in masks then go for it You have already decided what you wanted to decide But don't be telling the rest of us that we are the fringe dwelling conspiracy theorists When clearly you are the weirdos who have gone down a hypercondriacal rabbit hole It is not about being fringe, or introducing race to ridicule others, the simple fact is, that you don't like being told what to do and no amount of evidence will change your mind because you're a stubborn old prick who would rather see people die than being told to stay home in the early days of the virus when we didn't know enough about it.  What we did know set off alarm bells, but you "knew" it was only the sniffles, so bugger everyone else. There's that aussie mateship... As long as you personally don't have to take any responsibility for your actions, while championing "personal responsibility", that's all that matters. If Scoot can do what he wants, who cares what happens to anyone else.  Unless they're women, then in the world of personal responsibility, it's all still their fault. You'd think personal responsibility comes with accountability, but it's interesting how often he blame shifts to others. So in terms of COVID, he won't change his story unless he's walking up to the stage to collect a Herman Cain award, and even then, he probably would ride that rollercoaster all the way to hell screaming "it's just the sniffles!!!". incorrect your position and carls position is nothing about mateship and all about selfish "me,me,me" . a mate wouldnt want to see his friends who own a gym or a resturant driven into bankruptcy by rediculous lockdowns a mate wouldnt want to see the teenagers in his street miss out on playing team sports and seeing their friends a mate wouldnt want loved ones to be seperated and call for qantas to never fly because they might spread a germ "me,me,me " is what your philosophy is about totally selfish If we knew then what we know now it's possible your take isn't absolute dog poo. The problem is, at the time we didn't. Teenagers playing team sports is not more important than peoples lives. I lost a 50% stake in a cafe during lockdowns, it sucks, but it's only money. But at the time front bottoms like you boasted about not wearing their masks and those less cowardly than you would do this in person, harassing staff and possibly spreading the virus even further. You think you have some moral authority to accuse others of being selfish? smacking hilarious. Quote: i do believe carl and yourself would have tossed kids out of lifeboats on the titanic because old people , like yourselves see yourself as living gems total narcissicists  ::) ::) There is a difference between saving a child's life vs them kicking a ball around...

incorrect


you are the one claiming moral superiority

your use of swear words shows this really triggers you

usually we are very triggered when someone hits a nerve and reveals a truth we dont want to face up to  :'( :'( :'(

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 5:26am:

incorrect you are the one claiming moral superiority your use of swear words shows this really triggers you usually we are very triggered when someone hits a nerve and reveals a truth we dont want to face up to  :'( :'( :'(

You mean like when I (and others) keep trying to explain to you (backed up by real science) that SARS-CoV-2 isn't just a "mild respiratory virus" and "just a cold" but you obviously don't want to face up to it?

Or is it that you're just trolling all the time?

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/154/666/380/original/79d6cdea4f8a3dda.png

i did a bit of a survey of the 1000 or so people i saw at work this morning

zero masks

carl really has descended into a cult

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HQM5WaqfUs

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:56pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 13th, 2023 at 10:46pm: ...Masks don't work this recent study shows you're more likely to get covid if you wear a mask than if you don't. If masks worked you would expect to see a massive reduction this study shows masks increase the risk of catching covid. The covidiots never learn. I don't agree with your assessment of the study, but I'm about to hit the farter, so will respond later today.

Okay... The report does not unequivocally say, anywhere,
that one is "more likely" to get COVID if one wears a mask. 
That's your interpretation, and it's not correct IMHO.

I note that you've selectively cited the report to suit
your claim, but ignored other parts of the report.

   I can cherry pick too.    ;)

...Observational studies reporting on the relationship
between face mask use and risk of respiratory infections
should be interpreted cautiously, and more
randomized trials are needed.

...In controlled settings, mechanistic studies suggest
that when masks are worn correctly, the risk of infection
should be strongly reduced.

...However, it is important to interpret the results
with caution and not infer that our estimates
represent the true causal relationship between face
mask use and infection risk.

...we found that the proportion of registered COVID cases
was higher in the groups using face masks, but aRRs
(adjusted risk ratios) showed no statistically significant
difference in risk.

...Studies based on observational data mainly find
a negative association between wearing a mask
and the risk of  COVID-19 infection.

...for example, in their online survey, Xu et al have
found a manifold increase in the risk of infection
among the participants who reported not wearing a
face mask.

...In a similar study by Kwon et al, self-reported
"always" use of face mask outside the home was
associated with around a 65% reduced risk of
predicted COVID-19

...Our findings suggest that wearing a face mask
may be associated with an increased risk of
infection. However, it is important to note that
this association may be due to unobservable
and non-adjustable differences between those wearing
and not wearing a mask. Therefore, caution is imperative
when interpreting the results of this and other
observational studies on the relationship between
mask wearing and infection risk.

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Government says it’s time to roll up your sleeve for COVID jab number SIX


Following a massive decrease in net profits for biopharma conglomerates in 2023, pharmacists and GPs are rolling out yet another COVID booster shot.


TOTT News December 13, 2023



SIXTH SHOT ARRIVES

Just to add more lunacy as we close out 2023, new COVID booster shots are now available in Australia.

Yes, that’s right: As of Monday this week, pharmacies and GPs across Australia are being stocked with the latest mRNA technology to ‘fight back’ against the ‘latest variants’.

I had my last covid booster in October. Surely, people would only get boosters for when new vaccines come out.

Patients and doctors expect drug regulators to provide an unbiased, rigorous assessment of new medicines before they hit the market. But an investigation published by The BMJ today finds that industry money permeates the globe’s leading regulators, raising questions about their independence, especially in the wake of a string of drug and device scandals.

Over the past decades, regulatory agencies have seen large proportions of their budgets funded by the industry they are sworn to regulate, explains investigative journalist Maryanne Demasi.

Industry fees to the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have increased 30 fold – from around $29m in 1993 to $884m in 2016, while in Europe, industry fees now fund 89% of the European Medicines Agency (EMA), up from 20% in 1995.

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:28pm:

i did a bit of a survey of the 1000 or so people i saw at work this morning zero masks carl really has descended into a cult https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HQM5WaqfUs

How many were coughing and/or sneezing?

Oh, that's right... it's just "hay fever" or a "summer cold"  right now.

Perfectly normal for this time of the year. ::)

ABC... Anything But Covid.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 3:49pm:

https://tottnews.com/2023/12/13/sixth-booster-shot-arrives/ https://i0.wp.com/tottnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Screenshot-2746.png Government says it’s time to roll up your sleeve for COVID jab number SIX Following a massive decrease in net profits for biopharma conglomerates in 2023, pharmacists and GPs are rolling out yet another COVID booster shot. TOTT News December 13, 2023 SIXTH SHOT ARRIVES Just to add more lunacy as we close out 2023, new COVID booster shots are now available in Australia. Yes, that’s right: As of Monday this week, pharmacies and GPs across Australia are being stocked with the latest mRNA technology to ‘fight back’ against the ‘latest variants’.

I'd be rolling my arm up right now for number 6 if I hadn't caught Covid for the first time 3 months ago.

As far as I know (and the government "messaging" about getting another Covid vaccine is deliberately confusing) you still can't get another Covid vaccination unless it's been 6 months since your last vaccination or confirmed infection.

That's how the government is saving money on vaccines because it is almost impossible to last 6 months without getting infected nowadays with Covid rampant across Australia.

That's OK... I intend to roll up my sleeve in 3 months time for #6 because even if I do get Covid again before then I'm not going to tell anyone. And besides, you can't report your positive RATs anymore because the States have shut down all of the reporting portals to make it look like cases are now very low (which they most certainly are not).

I would actually roll up my sleeve right now if I hadn't reported our (my aunt and I's) positive RATs the week before the WA government shut it down at the start of October.

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 1:25pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 13th, 2023 at 11:56pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 13th, 2023 at 10:46pm: ...Masks don't work this recent study shows you're more likely to get covid if you wear a mask than if you don't. If masks worked you would expect to see a massive reduction this study shows masks increase the risk of catching covid. The covidiots never learn. I don't agree with your assessment of the study, but I'm about to hit the farter, so will respond later today.  Okay... The report does not unequivocally say, anywhere, that one is "more likely" to get COVID if one wears a mask.  That's your interpretation, and it's not correct IMHO. I note that you've selectively cited the report to suit your claim, but ignored other parts of the report.    I can cherry pick too.    ;) ...Observational studies reporting on the relationship between face mask use and risk of respiratory infections should be interpreted cautiously, and more randomized trials are needed. ...Our findings suggest that wearing a face mask may be associated with an increased risk of infection.

I provide the links there is only so much that can fit in one post.

They said their findings suggest masks increase the risk of catching covid over no mask.
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

This might be difficult to comprehend for those who don't use their brains.I understand we have Boomers here and Dementia might be turning your brains into mush.

If Masks worked we would see a huge decrease with those who wore masks. There would not be any of this little to no difference or actual increased risk of infections said in reports

You also cited more Random Control trials are needed. There are 78 RCTs that say masks don't work how many more RCTs should we do until the covidiots get it through their heads masks don't work?  ;)

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Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 10:46pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 13th, 2023 at 10:24pm: But at the time front bottoms like you boasted about not wearing their masks and those less cowardly than you would do this in person, harassing staff and possibly spreading the virus even further. Masks don't work why are you ignoring the science with this?

We didn't know that at the time, learn to read jack ass.

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 10:55pm:

...This might be difficult to comprehend for those who don't use their brains.I understand we have Boomers here and Dementia might be turning your brains into mush.

Oh dear.

Are childish personal insults really the best you can
do to support your argument?    That's just so sad.

Can I ask you how old you are Baron, as I noticed
you didn't have the confidence to post it on your
profile.

It was actually quite amusing that your first cited
link didn't actually say what you thought it did LOL.
It may pay you to actually read the full report next
time, before making claims about what you thought
it said.

For anybody interested in the full Cochrane Library
trials report, you can check it out HERE.

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 15^th, 2023 at 11:37am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 14th, 2023 at 10:55pm: ...This might be difficult to comprehend for those who don't use their brains.I understand we have Boomers here and Dementia might be turning your brains into mush. Oh dear. Are childish personal insults really the best you can do to support your argument?    That's just so sad. Can I ask you how old you are Baron, as I noticed you didn't have the confidence to post it on your profile. It was actually quite amusing that your first cited link didn't actually say what you thought it did LOL. It may pay you to actually read the full report next time, before making claims about what you thought it said. For anybody interested in the full Cochrane Library trials report, you can check it out HERE.

are you referring to the angry marsupial

"cutns like you "  say skippy
"absolute dog poo."  says skippy
learn to read jack ass.  says skippy.


and you really want to call baron a child ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://tottnews.com/2023/12/13/sixth-booster-shot-arrives/


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Government says it’s time to roll up your sleeve for COVID jab number SIX


Following a massive decrease in net profits for biopharma conglomerates in 2023, pharmacists and GPs are rolling out yet another COVID booster shot.


TOTT News December 13, 2023



SIXTH SHOT ARRIVES

Just to add more lunacy as we close out 2023, new COVID booster shots are now available in Australia.

Yes, that’s right: As of Monday this week, pharmacies and GPs across Australia are being stocked with the latest mRNA technology to ‘fight back’ against the ‘latest variants’.


But.

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aquascoot wrote on Dec 15^th, 2023 at 11:53am:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 15th, 2023 at 11:37am: Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 14th, 2023 at 10:55pm: ...This might be difficult to comprehend for those who don't use their brains.I understand we have Boomers here and Dementia might be turning your brains into mush. Oh dear. Are childish personal insults really the best you can do to support your argument?    That's just so sad. Can I ask you how old you are Baron, as I noticed you didn't have the confidence to post it on your profile. It was actually quite amusing that your first cited link didn't actually say what you thought it did LOL. It may pay you to actually read the full report next time, before making claims about what you thought it said. For anybody interested in the full Cochrane Library trials report, you can check it out HERE. are you referring to the angry marsupial "cutns like you "  say skippy "absolute dog poo."  says skippy learn to read jack ass.  says skippy. and you really want to call baron a child ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

But you are a front bottom, it's simply accurate.

Facts over feelings right?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15^th, 2023 at 12:02pm:

https://tottnews.com/2023/12/13/sixth-booster-shot-arrives/ https://i0.wp.com/tottnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Screenshot-2746.png Government says it’s time to roll up your sleeve for COVID jab number SIX Following a massive decrease in net profits for biopharma conglomerates in 2023, pharmacists and GPs are rolling out yet another COVID booster shot. TOTT News December 13, 2023 SIXTH SHOT ARRIVES Just to add more lunacy as we close out 2023, new COVID booster shots are now available in Australia. Yes, that’s right: As of Monday this week, pharmacies and GPs across Australia are being stocked with the latest mRNA technology to ‘fight back’ against the ‘latest variants’. But. https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/154/666/380/original/79d6cdea4f8a3dda.png

Have you not heard of vaccine boosters before covid?

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2023 at 12:40pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 15th, 2023 at 11:53am: AusGeoff wrote on Dec 15th, 2023 at 11:37am: Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 14th, 2023 at 10:55pm: ...This might be difficult to comprehend for those who don't use their brains.I understand we have Boomers here and Dementia might be turning your brains into mush. Oh dear. Are childish personal insults really the best you can do to support your argument?    That's just so sad. Can I ask you how old you are Baron, as I noticed you didn't have the confidence to post it on your profile. It was actually quite amusing that your first cited link didn't actually say what you thought it did LOL. It may pay you to actually read the full report next time, before making claims about what you thought it said. For anybody interested in the full Cochrane Library trials report, you can check it out HERE. are you referring to the angry marsupial "cutns like you "  say skippy "absolute dog poo."  says skippy learn to read jack ass.  says skippy. and you really want to call baron a child ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D But you are a front bottom, it's simply accurate. Facts over feelings right?

*shakes head*

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2023 at 12:42pm:

Have you not heard of vaccine boosters before covid?

I had heard of that but not 6 shots?     :-/

The new easonal covid prevention ditty from the  heath authorities:



This year Santa gave me a cough
So I told him, 'pal, just  **** off.

The new easonal covid prevention ditty from the  heath authorities:



This year Santa gave me a cough
So I told him, 'pal, just  **** off.

From the esteemed Dr. David Berger again.

https://nitter.net/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1736737499811324117#m


Quote:

Australian goverment public information leaflet on protecting loved ones from COVID. Fails to mention masks, ventilation, HEPA filtration.

No, because masks upset business (see my signature) and the other two cost money (which business doesn't want to spend).


Quote:

💧Tracking the Australian Right Wing @beccarala 1h Replying to @YouAreLobbyLud Wilful negligence 🤬

Yes.
Yes it is.

And...

https://nitter.net/GlennL79368255/status/1736896901277237336#m


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Gerrard in Queensland doesn't even hide the fact that forced infection is a thing.

No.
No he doesn't.

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