Here's an 'easy going' education on the history of the Arab (Palestine) - Israeli conflict.

Israel once split into two nations with the nation of Judah emerging in the south.
It was the Roman conquest that turned Judah into Palestine.
So in a nutshell, Palestine is a fake Arab nation and they act like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m19F4IHTVGc

Surprise!
Embassy of the State of Palestine
2/44 Dalman Crescent
O'Malley ACT 2606
Australia

'Gaza is likewise an important resting place for migratory birds—including herons, cranes, and flamingos. Gaza city’s seaside restaurants are a great place to enjoy fresh seafood while looking out over the tranquil Mediterranean. The city is famous for its hand-woven rugs, wicker furniture, and pottery, which you can find at a local market (souq).'

Israel (Judah) taken over by Romans who invent Palestine.
The Arabs didn't invent it.
Palestine is a fake nation.

They should give Palestine back to the Romans.

Beer and Pizza.  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ

Romans invented London and pommyland so it is owned by Italy (so Australia is also). Britain sent the navy to shell Beirut and an Anglo-Ottoman expeditionary force landed, causing local uprisings against the Egyptian occupiers. The Egyptian army retreated to Egypt. Muhammad Ali signed the Treaty of 1841. Palestine is a fraud of Anglo-Aussie convicts without any humans until Jews bought it with Russian rubble.

Every place in the world has a name created by someone.

Although the Jews say that Israel was promised by God himself -

it's the promised land - according to Moses.

Jasin wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 12:35am:

Here's an 'easy going' education on the history of the Arab (Palestine) - Israeli conflict. Israel once split into two nations with the nation of Judah emerging in the south. It was the Roman conquest that turned Judah into Palestine. So in a nutshell, Palestine is a fake Arab nation and they act like it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m19F4IHTVGc

Good point, JaSin. What did the Romans call Iran?

How about France? And jolly old Mother England?

Oh, and one more, dear - what did they call Italy?

Cheers.

Jasin wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 2:05pm:

The Arabs didn't invent it.

After losing 1-0 to Rome, Britain was lost for words. German cartographer Martin Waldseemüller in April 1507 drew the first map to use the name "America", for South America on the main map.  This was in honour of the Italian Amerigo Vespucci who owned Britain. He ordered poms to call the yanks 'Americans', led by Donald the Fake Roman.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

Every place in the world has a name created by someone. Although the Jews say that Israel was promised by God himself - it's the promised land - according to Moses.

Right you are, Bobby. They wrote an entire book about it. It's reported to be your DL's fave.

The Torah is all about how the Jews never actually received their promised land. It's about how, despite this unfulfilled promise, the Jews retained their faith in Y_H_V_ - at all costs.

Then, a guy called Paul came along and created a doomsday cult called Paulinians. They later renamed themselves after their Messiah. They took over Rome, Britain and finally America. After WWII, they decided it would be nice to fulfill Y_H_V_'s promise.

But by then, the Jews had converted to scientific socialism. They went by their political cause's name of Zionists. When Mother gave them Palestine, they turned all religious all of a sudden, started speaking an ancient language called Hebrew and renamed Palestine Israel.

For religious Jews, Israel is a state of mind. For the Christians, it fulfils their literal Messianic beliefs. The nation of Israel is a Christian invention.

Still, it brings in the tourists. Cunning, no?

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 5:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:47pm: Every place in the world has a name created by someone. Although the Jews say that Israel was promised by God himself - it's the promised land - according to Moses. Right you are, Bobby. They wrote an entire book about it. It's reported to be your DL's fave. The Torah is all about how the Jews never actually received their promised land. It's about how, despite this unfulfilled promise, the Jews retained their faith in Y_H_V_ - at all costs. Then, a guy called Paul came along and created a doomsday cult called Paulinians. They later renamed themselves after their Messiah. They took over Rome, Britain and finally America. After WWII, they decided it would be nice to fulfill Y_H_V_'s promise. But by then, the Jews had converted to scientific socialism. They went by their political cause's name of Zionists. When Mother gave them Palestine, they turned all religious all of a sudden, started speaking an ancient language called Hebrew and renamed Palestine Israel. For religious Jews, Israel is a state of mind. For the Christians, it fulfils their literal Messianic beliefs. The nation of Israel is a Christian invention. Still, it brings in the tourists. Cunning, no?

Yep and we are bound for the promised land.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 5:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:47pm: Every place in the world has a name created by someone. Although the Jews say that Israel was promised by God himself - it's the promised land - according to Moses. Right you are, Bobby. They wrote an entire book about it. It's reported to be your DL's fave.

Old Testament guy or a New Testament guy? 

Israel (& Judah) were created by Jews.
Palestine was created by Romans,
who - no longer exist and thus Palestine is forfeit for the Arabs.

Jasin wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 8:06pm:

Israel (& Judah) were created by Jews. Palestine was created by Romans, who - no longer exist and thus Palestine is forfeit for the Arabs.

Actually, I think you'll find it was the Balfour Declaration, JaSin, but that's just me.

The Angles and Saxons no longer exist too. How about the Nig Nogs?

Jews - First Nation of Israel.
Voice, Treaty, Truth - NOW!

No good?

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 10:05pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 8:06pm: Israel (& Judah) were created by Jews. Palestine was created by Romans, who - no longer exist and thus Palestine is forfeit for the Arabs. Actually, I think you'll find it was the Balfour Declaration, JaSin, but that's just me. The Angles and Saxons no longer exist too. How about the Nig Nogs?

How about the nig nogs?

You see. This is why I don't bother to reply to you Karnal.
Your trolling posts are just 'stupid' in themselves.
You're trying to be witty, but you're so incoherent in your attempts that its pointless to reply to your own derailment - all for what? Just seeking attention like a Dirty Sex Tourist of Thai boys would. Yuk! You're disgusting and your posts just plain stink!

Jasin wrote on Oct 19^th, 2023 at 9:33pm:

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 10:05pm: Jasin wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 8:06pm: Israel (& Judah) were created by Jews. Palestine was created by Romans, who - no longer exist and thus Palestine is forfeit for the Arabs. Actually, I think you'll find it was the Balfour Declaration, JaSin, but that's just me. The Angles and Saxons no longer exist too. How about the Nig Nogs? How about the nig nogs? You see. This is why I don't bother to reply to you, Karnal.

Sorry, dear?

Did you just say ooh-er?

Jasin wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 2:05pm:

Israel (Judah) taken over by Romans who invent Palestine. The Arabs didn't invent it. Palestine is a fake nation.

That's nothing but Zionist propaganda.

See Prof. Nur Masalha's Palestine: A Four Thousand Year History:


First documented in the late Bronze Age, about 3200 years ago, the name
Palestine (Greek: Παλαιστίνη; Arabic: نيطسلف, Filastin) ...

The name Palestine is the most commonly used from the Late Bronze
Age (from 1300 BC) onwards. The name is evident in countless histories,
‘Abbasid inscriptions from the province of Jund Filastin ... and Philistine
coins from the Iron Age...

The celebrated English historian and Enlightenment author Edward
Gibbon, writing in 1776, noted that ‘Phoenicia and Palestine will forever
live in the [collective] memory of mankind’ (Gibbon 1838, Vol. 1: 40; 1840, Vol. 5: 173).

Palestine was the name used most commonly, consistently and continuously
for over 1200 years throughout classical and Late Antiquity, from the
highlight of classical Athenian civilisation in 500 BC...

Classical Antiquity and the Hellenistic period from 500 BC to 135 BC is
one of the periods when records of life in Palestine were numerous and
well-kept. This is also a period in which the first famous historians and
authors of Antiquity, including Herodotus and Aristotle, wrote about the
country in detail, and the strategic, commercial and cultural importance
of Palestine to the various Hellenistic monarchs, military commanders,
traders, travellers, cartographers and scientists led to great interest, and
close examination of the country and its people.

The term Palestine was also extensively used in referring to the entire
area connected with modern Palestine in 5th century BC Ancient Greece.
The name Παλαιστίνη (Phalastin) was widely used by the most important
ancient Greek historians, cartographers, writers, philosophers and scientists,
including Herodotus, Aristotle and Ptolemy...

It was in the writings of Herodotus (who lived in the 5th century BC (c. 484–425 BC)
that the name took on its Greek form Παλαιστίνη (Palaistinê or Phalastin)
and was used as the name of the region. Herodotus talks about Palaestine,
Palaestine-Syria and the ‘Syrians of Palestine’ and he distinguishes the
Phoenicians from the ‘Syrians of Palestine’ (Herodotus 1841: 135).

In his geographic representation of Παλαιστίνη (Palaistinê or Phalastin)
Herodotus uses the term in its wider sense and not merely in reference to
Philistia and not only mentions Palestine as an autonomous district of Syria
but describes it geographically, as the country we know today, but also including
some adjoining areas in the Sinai and the north, as well as the area east of the river Jordan.
Herodotus also adds that southern Palestine sea ports from Cadytis to Jenysus
(or Ienysos, modern Khan Yunis in the Gaza Strip) were occupied by Arabians.

Herodotus’ Histories is one of the most famous historical texts on the origins of the
Greco-Persian Wars, a text known to academics, historians and history
students throughout the world. Histories is now considered a founda‐
tional text in the Western academy. It serves as a key record of ancient
oral traditions, politics, geography and the clashes of various powers that
were known in Greece, Western Asia and North Africa. When it comes
to ancient Palestine and toponymic memory, modern Western Christian
writing relies partly on Herodotus’ classic work.

In this classical text (written from the 450s to the 420s BC), Herodotus
writes about a ‘district of Syria, called Palaistinê’ and lists place names of
ancient Palestine. Herodotus himself visited Palestine in the fifth decade of
the 5th century BC. He travelled extensively through ‘the part of Syria called
Palestine, I myself saw’,  and acquired first-hand knowledge of the country
and its people (Jacobson 1999). Herodotus refers to Παλαιστίνη (Palaistinê),
Syria, or simply Palaistinê, many times as an area comprising the whole
region between Phoenicia and Egypt (see also Herodotus 2014: 724, Map 10).

Herodotus’ text includes the description of key towns and ports, the
road later to be called Via Maris, and many other places he had seen and
recorded. He describes in detail the city of Ascalon, an ancient seaport city
which dates back to the Neolithic Age. At the time of Herodotus Palestine
was polytheistic and he consequently describes Ascalon as having a temple
for Aphrodite Urania...

Herodotus, who travelled widely in Palestine and Syria and beyond the
coastal region, does not mention Judaea or refer to Jews. He does not
mention terms such Cana’an or Canaanites or Israelites in Palestine; nor does
he describe monotheism in the country. First, as archaeological evidence
shows, monotheism was a much later development in Palestine and the
Near East (Masalha 2007). Second, also significantly, many of the Old
Testament religio-ideological dogmas evolved centuries after Herodotus.

Approximately a century after Herodotus, the celebrated Greek scientist,
philosopher and historian Aristotle (Aristotélēs, 384–322 BC) talks about
‘Palestine’ and does not mention the term ‘Cana’an’ – primarily because
‘Palestine’ applied to a real historical region, while the term ‘Cana’an’
was probably derived from a subsequently constructed religio-ideological
narrative of the Old Testament with which at the time Aristotle could not
have been familiar.

preconditions for recognising the Palestinian state:

As preconditions Australia should insist on a demilitarised Palestine, recognition of Israel, renunciation of violence and acceptance of existing agreements. Only parties signed up to a “peace charter” along these lines would be eligible to register for elections. There would then need to be agreement to a number of security, capacity building and accountability measures. All international aid and development funding would be contingent on this. The so-called right of return must be accepted as only applying to the new Palestinian state.

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Until elections can be reliably held, it should be required that PA “departments” be a partnership of qualified Palestinian technocrats and international expert advisers. Accountability measures would be embedded for a transition. Each department would implement programs for the ethical and technical training of cadets. Security programs would be instituted for monitoring corruption, along with terrorist and foreign intelligence connections.

Following the decommissioning of UN Relief and Works Agency a new international body should be established in partnership with countries such as Australia. This new body would manage donor support, reconstruction, relief, and capacity building. Palestinian staff would be vetted, mentored, and monitored. It would provide oversight assurance that relief supplies are getting through to the right people and funds accounted for.

A partnership of countries, including Australia, would take on the shaping of a sound, community trusted police service and judicial system, with thorough human rights training.

Agreement to international oversight and monitoring of the education system, removing dehumanising, racist or violence conditioning would be critical. This is another potential area for Australian involvement.

Israel would be required to start dismantling settler outposts, which could be encouraged with international assistance. Progress in PA capacity would be matched by Israel with the steady wind down of military administrations.

By MIKE KELLY   and ANTHONY BERGIN
Mike Kelly is the co-founder of the Labor Friends of Israel group. Anthony Bergin is a senior fellow at Strategic Analysis Australia