https://au.yahoo.com/news/major-father-son-murder-case-005400826.html

A father and his teenage son accused of executing a 38-year-old homeless man will plead guilty or not guilty to the charges against them in three months’ time.

South Australian Police have charged Keith Yandle, 46, and his son Marco, 19, with the joint murder of father-of-two Steven Murphy after his remains were found buried on a remote property north of Adelaide in April.

A tip-off led the cops to the Kudla property, about 47km north of Adelaide, where they found a marijuana farm and a gravesite within a man-made bunker.

Prosecutors allege Keith executed Mr Murphy with an unlicensed firearm at close range on the night of February 19.

They allege Marco and his father Keith equipped themselves with a bat and an illegal firearm after they suspected an intruder was on the property.

The duo allegedly went out to check on their shed at the family property in Kudla when the intruder, Steven Murphy, was shot.

The teen, who had been carrying a baseball bat, allegedly shone a torch over Mr Murphy as his father shot the man three times.

The prosecution alleges the entire incident was caught on the family’s CCTV system, but hard drives containing the footage were hidden in the roof of the home, along with the gun.

Keith and Marco were arrested and charged on April 16 and both men have been denied bail.

Marco asked the Adelaide Magistrates Court to release him on home detention bail – a request that was immediately dismissed due to the severity of the charges.

He then applied for that decision to be reviewed in the Supreme Court, arguing his age, lack of criminal history and previous good character should be reason enough for the dismissal to be overturned.

Marco was the vice-captain of Trinity College, a private co-ed school in Gawler that charges up to $7,060 a year for senior school students.

Justice McDonald, however, ruled in May that a murder charge was the most serious offence and meant the teen was not automatically entitled to bail.

“It is an offence committed in a vast range of circumstances, by people from many different walks of life.”

“It is not uncommon for a person charged with murder to have been of previous good character appearing in court for the first time.

“In my view, this is a very serious allegation of murder and I dismiss the application.”

Marco had no visible reaction to the decision, but outside court his mother left weeping.

Adelaide Magistrates Court heard on Tuesday the prosecution had concentrated the charges against Keith to include only the cultivation of a controlled plant, possession of a firearm without a license and possession of ammunition with a license in addition to the murder charge.

An earlier charge against Keith of cultivating a commercial quantity of a controlled plant was dropped.

Keith and Marco, who are both on remand and appeared in court via videolink, will now enter their pleas to the charges on January 16.

19 yr old Marco should have been granted bail IMO.

Aussie?

Baron?

Freediver?

What do you guys think?

Was he a mushroom user?

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 12:31pm:

19 yr old Marco should have been granted bail IMO. Aussie? Baron? Freediver? What do you guys think?

You can't have weapons for self defence in Australia maybe if he picked up a broom or rake instead of a baseball bat he would have got bail.

The CCTV apparently shows a warning shot was fired 10-15 minutes later they had him empty his pockets then shot him looks like he surrendered then murdered.
Father will be spending lots of time in jail.

I wouldn't have a problem with kid getting bail he was only holding a torch and baseball bat. He didn't shoot him.

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 5:01pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 10th, 2023 at 12:31pm: 19 yr old Marco should have been granted bail IMO. Aussie? Baron? Freediver? What do you guys think? You can't have weapons for self defence in Australia maybe if he picked up a broom or rake instead of a baseball bat he would have got bail. The CCTV apparently shows a warning shot was fired 10-15 minutes later they had him empty his pockets then shot him looks like he surrendered then murdered. Father will be spending lots of time in jail. I wouldn't have a problem with kid getting bail he was only holding a torch and baseball bat. He didn't shoot him.

Bingo! That’s exactly why I disagree with the Judge’s decision. I wanted to see if someone else felt the same about the kid.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 12:23pm:

The teen, who had been carrying a baseball bat, allegedly shone a torch over Mr Murphy as his father shot the man three times.

'The heart of the Patriot battery is the fire control section consisting of the Radar Set. Patriot's radar is somewhat unusual in that it is a "detection-to-kill" system.  This characteristic gives the radar the ability to detect small, fast targets.'
The radar operator plays baseball, lights the target and kills, as does the missile operator.

Lock him up.

Dnarever wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 5:54pm:

Lock him up.

I tend to agree.

I can't see any legitimate reason why he should be granted bail - this is a murder charge.

If it was a robbery, sure.  But not for murder.

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 5:01pm:

I wouldn't have a problem with kid getting bail he was only holding a torch and baseball bat. He didn't shoot him.

I would probably agree with you if he was a kid.

However, he's an adult.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 5:58pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:01pm: I wouldn't have a problem with kid getting bail he was only holding a torch and baseball bat. He didn't shoot him. I would probably agree with you if he was a kid. However, he's an adult.

He’s a teenager. BFD.

On the basis of the information available to us ... all he did was hold a torch and a bat.

Next time you hold a torch and a bat remember how dangerously close you are to going to jail.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 6:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:58pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:01pm: I wouldn't have a problem with kid getting bail he was only holding a torch and baseball bat. He didn't shoot him. I would probably agree with you if he was a kid. However, he's an adult. He’s a teenager. ...

And an adult.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 6:01pm:

Next time you hold a torch and a bat remember how dangerously close you are to going to jail.

when the 3 bullets are following your torch light and you are a 19 year old.

chimera wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 6:03pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 6:01pm: Next time you hold a torch and a bat remember how dangerously close you are to going to jail. when the 3 bullets are following your torch light and you are a 19 year old.

Ahhh. Ok I get your point.

That’s the link then. I couldn’t see it before.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 6:03pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 6:01pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:58pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:01pm: I wouldn't have a problem with kid getting bail he was only holding a torch and baseball bat. He didn't shoot him. I would probably agree with you if he was a kid. However, he's an adult. He’s a teenager. ... And an adult.

You missed the rest of my post and that was the most important bit. Never mind it was picked up by Chimera.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 6:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 6:03pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 6:01pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:58pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:01pm: I wouldn't have a problem with kid getting bail he was only holding a torch and baseball bat. He didn't shoot him. I would probably agree with you if he was a kid. However, he's an adult. He’s a teenager. ... And an adult. You missed the rest of my post and that was the most important bit. Never mind it was picked up by Chimera.

He held a torch and a bat while a murder was taking place, and he's an adult.

I can't see why he should be granted bail.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 6:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 6:03pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 6:01pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:58pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:01pm: I wouldn't have a problem with kid getting bail he was only holding a torch and baseball bat. He didn't shoot him. I would probably agree with you if he was a kid. However, he's an adult. He’s a teenager. ... And an adult. You missed the rest of my post and that was the most important bit. Never mind it was picked up by Chimera.

He held a torch (so his father could see the guy clearly in order to kill him) and a bat while a murder was taking place, and he's an adult.

An adult.

Moreover, his father allegedly murdered the guy with an illegal firearm.

I can't see why he should be granted bail.

Dnarever wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 5:54pm:

Lock him up.

Yes. He was an active participant in this murder, which going by the information in the OP appears to have been committed to protect the family's illegal cannabis plantation.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 6:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:58pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:01pm: I wouldn't have a problem with kid getting bail he was only holding a torch and baseball bat. He didn't shoot him. I would probably agree with you if he was a kid. However, he's an adult. He’s a teenager. BFD. On the basis of the information available to us ... all he did was hold a torch and a bat. Next time you hold a torch and a bat remember how dangerously close you are to going to jail.

Holding a torch for his father.

Did he know his father was going to shoot him?

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 8:05pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 6:01pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:58pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:01pm: I wouldn't have a problem with kid getting bail he was only holding a torch and baseball bat. He didn't shoot him. I would probably agree with you if he was a kid. However, he's an adult. He’s a teenager. BFD. On the basis of the information available to us ... all he did was hold a torch and a bat. Next time you hold a torch and a bat remember how dangerously close you are to going to jail. Holding a torch for his father. Did he know his father was going to shoot him?

Yes.

The illegal firearm he was holding and pointing at the guy's head was a bit of a giveaway.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 8:09pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 8:05pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 6:01pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:58pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:01pm: I wouldn't have a problem with kid getting bail he was only holding a torch and baseball bat. He didn't shoot him. I would probably agree with you if he was a kid. However, he's an adult. He’s a teenager. BFD. On the basis of the information available to us ... all he did was hold a torch and a bat. Next time you hold a torch and a bat remember how dangerously close you are to going to jail. Holding a torch for his father. Did he know his father was going to shoot him? Yes. The illegal firearm he was holding and pointing at the guy's head was a bit of a giveaway.

Quote:

Farmer who used gun to protect family from knife-wielding intruder has rifle confiscated David Dunstan used an unloaded rifle to stop the man entering his home as his three children lay sleeping inside. https://au.news.yahoo.com/bungowannah-man-has-guns-confiscated-trying-to-protect-home-37221845.html

Lots of people surrender without a shot being fired when a gun is pointed at them.

Did this kid know dads gun was loaded?

Did this kid know his dad was going to shoot intruder?

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 8:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 8:09pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 8:05pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 6:01pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:58pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 5:01pm: I wouldn't have a problem with kid getting bail he was only holding a torch and baseball bat. He didn't shoot him. I would probably agree with you if he was a kid. However, he's an adult. He’s a teenager. BFD. On the basis of the information available to us ... all he did was hold a torch and a bat. Next time you hold a torch and a bat remember how dangerously close you are to going to jail. Holding a torch for his father. Did he know his father was going to shoot him? Yes. The illegal firearm he was holding and pointing at the guy's head was a bit of a giveaway. Quote: Farmer who used gun to protect family from knife-wielding intruder has rifle confiscated David Dunstan used an unloaded rifle to stop the man entering his home as his three children lay sleeping inside. https://au.news.yahoo.com/bungowannah-man-has-guns-confiscated-trying-to-protect-home-37221845.html Lots of people surrender without a shot being fired when a gun is pointed at them. Did this kid know dads gun was loaded? Did this kid know his dad was going to shoot intruder?

Yes.

That's why he held the torch - to let his dad have a clear shot at the guy's head with the illegal firearm he was wielding.

'at close range on the night of February 19.'
The first shot by torchlight was a hint that this would not end well. The second shot in the night as he shakily held the light made him suspect something.  The third shot really made the 19 year old take a hard look at the corpse. Yup.

I’m just thinking here ... the son also helped his dad in hiding/burying the corpse. So that’s another problem for the boy - interfering with a corpse.

Look they should have just called the cops.

Edit : Oh wait they couldn’t do that as the cops would have turned up to see their elaborate drug operation.

These 2 should go to jail for being idiots. Is there a sub section in the Crimes Act titled : Provisions for Next Level Stupidity and Idiocy ? If not then there should be.

Had he been an indigenous ,woman, especiallyif he was a single mother livening in a council that.

He would have got off free.