It's nothing  to do with lack of flights, if there was demand, there would be plenty of flights.
They killed it.


The national park saw a massive spike in visitors prior to the closure of the Uluru climb, Parks Australia documents show, with 406,821 tourists travelling to the region in 2019.

Now, operators say the remote region is struggling to claw back to its pre-pandemic visitor numbers.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-08/nt-uluru-visitor-numbers-slump-post-covid/102947432

It's laughable that so many non-Aboriginals seem to think that Uluru is the Vatican of Aboriginalia.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 8^th, 2023 at 9:00pm:

It's laughable that so many non-Aboriginals seem to think that Uluru is the Vatican of Aboriginalia.

Many years ago I worked with an Abo guy, absolutely lovely bloke, went to Ayer Rock as he felt compelled to go being a Sydney urban Abo. He hated it, and got mugged in Alice Springs and the young blokes who mugged him called him a greasy wog.
He really did look more  Greek than Abo.

The Abbos wrecked Ayers Rock  -
no one can climb it now - except for them - and they are too lazy to climb it -

they ruin everything.

Stuff them - vote NO.

You know, this “take over” of Ayer’s Rock and stopping anyone (mainly non indigenous I gathered) from climbing the rock, has made me take more notice of the power the indigenous obviously have and do use.
Just an example of creating division against the rest of Australians.

I have felt disappointment and some bitterness for quite time some about this. In our travels now, finally finding some time to do this sort of stuff, it’s been taken from us to have that opportunity.
I have no desire to go there so soon, as a result. And it’s any wonder the tourism is diminishing … I wonder why?

If ownership claim is made that’s fine, but why not share a big rock that’s probably older than when dinosaurs walked the earth?

This “ownership” takeover is becoming more evident where I’m living … new boards are put up near old township names with new indigenous names now.
They are just springing up all over the place. It made me feel they already have a voice.
Yet, in all our family history of over 100 years working on the dam constructions, and in the fields yielding fruit and vegetables for the markets, there’s only ever been 3 nationalities doing the back breaking work - Anglo aussies, Italians, and Dutch. Then at a later date as I worked in the packing sheds, along came the Vietnamese. They all came in one van, worked in the heat or rain together, and helped each other to settle into homes over the course of a few years.
Never once had we seen an indigenous work in this area. Especially doing any of that back breaking work!

This “Voice” vote has me stumped as it seems they are already being listened to and being allowed to rename places or shut down tourism areas to claim as their own… not sharing is selfish.

I hear the “yes” vote will cause division.
But I bet the “no” vote will cause division also.
Nothing is clear about saying “yes” and it’s like signing a blank cheque.

An adage I think I will take heed of is “When in doubt…. don’t”

It's funny (not really) that in the linked ABC site,
absolutely no mention is made of the other likely
possibility that tourism has steeply declined since
the Aboriginals shut down non-indigenous
climbing of Ayers Rock from October 2019.

They failed to understand that (possibly?) 50% of
the tourists—particularly from overseas—visited
the Rock with the intention of climbing it.

At any rate, Ayers Rock was in situ 550 million years
ago, obviously long before the Aboriginals migrated
here from south-eastern Asia.

Ayers Rock or Uluru?

I'm be happy to see the monolith named as Ayers
Rock-Uluru, as it's important to also acknowledge the
involvement of the white settlers in developing the
country whose benefits the Aboriginals share and enjoy.

I think its the air fare.  A direct return flight from Melbourne to Alice Spring would cost $820 per person.   More expensive than going to Japan.   If you have a family of four, thats 4000 without even booking the accommodation.   

This, and the Sydney opera house/bridge were probably our two most iconic tourist destinations. One has been sacrificed to pagan racism and sexism. That, above all, is probably what drives tourists away. Instead of a laid back, friendly egalitarian culture, they are reading online that they are banned because of the colour of their skin. It's hard to feel good about that. Now they will be reading about people being chased off our beaches because of racism.

Don't underestimate the broader ramifications to Australia's tourism industry.

Nobody wants to go there because of all the crime and evil and all the BS about poor bugger me crap


It is dangerous - the chance of being murdered is 800% higher in the NT than any other place in Australia.

The NT is a failed State

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/labors-malarndirri-mccarthy-hits-out-at-former-prime-minister-john-howard-for-calling-northern-territory-a-failed-state/news-story/4adaa6605240ca8c980771dc8537d1b3

nothing to do with the fact that there has been no return of Chinese tourists .. nothing at all to do with it  :D :D

The Chinese are back everywhere, except Ayers Rock and Alice which is out of control with crime.

Posted Mon 25 Sep 2023
[b]Chinese tourism rebounds by 111pc due to 'pent up demand'
The latest ABS data shows there has been a rebound in Chinese tourism.

Veteran tour guide Benny Pan has been working around the clock since mid-year to service their return.

"We are very busy every day," said the 55-year-old, who's been working in the tourism industry for two decades.

"There are more Chinese tourists coming back than expected."

Mr Pan said his company recently purchased six new buses to prepare for a busy season in the lead up to a national holiday in October and the 2024 Chinese New Year.[/b]
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-25/chinese-tourists-return-ads-group-travel-resume/102891772


Don't listen to Smith, AKA the mongoloid of Ozpol, here's a recent pic of him.

https://i.ibb.co/2Ssvzw0/Roger-Ballen-Casie-and-Dresie-Twins-Western-Transvaal-South-Africa-1993-printed-later-1280x736.jpg

Stick to hitting yourself in the head with your kettlebell turdie,  you might actually get something right that way.  Albo has only recently reinstated Chinese group tourism visas. This is what tourism Australia has to say on the subject



Quote:

Tourism Australia had flagged a rise in visitor numbers once seat capacity from China returned to 54 per cent in June, or 70 flights a week. This was up from 42 per cent in May and up from about 5 per cent at the end of 2022 when China's borders were still closed.

:D :D :D

Stick to popping pills ya dumbarse

Considering Australian Tourism Industry is a giant 'rip-off' like the American Health System.
Little wonder people give Australia a miss altogether.
New Zealand offers 'more' for half the price, for starters.

The Anglos and Saxons left Wales for the indigenous Britons.
Can't you just give the Boongs at least Uluru?

Get your grubby Tourism hands off it.
Go make something of your own accord to attract Tourists.
Stop sponging off the Boongs and their stuff. Get yer own!

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 12:27am:

It's funny (not really) that in the linked ABC site, absolutely no mention is made of the other likely possibility that tourism has steeply declined since the Aboriginals shut down non-indigenous climbing of Ayers Rock from October 2019. They failed to understand that (possibly?) 50% of the tourists—particularly from overseas—visited the Rock with the intention of climbing it.

The local natives were cashing in with all the tourist dollars.

Now they complain about being unemployed and ask for more taxpayer handouts.

Alice has become a crime ridden shithole i couldn't tell anyone to visit there.

Boris wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:20am:

...It is dangerous - the chance of being murdered is 800% higher in the NT than any other place in Australia.

More of your absurd bullshit.  You really need to get
your hand off your dick mate!


Quote:

The state and territory breakdown of Recorded Crime - Victims from the Australian Bureau of Statistics shows the Northern Territory has the highest rate of murder at 7.7 per 100,000 people. This is over three times greater than the next highest state, NSW.

Ayers Rock for Tourism is dead indeed.

Uluru is for the Boongs.
Who said it had to be for the Tourism Industry to exploit it?
Leave it for the Boongs to do what they want to do with it.
It's their Uluru, not the Tourism Board's.

John Smith wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 5:11pm:

nothing to do with the fact that there has been no return of Chinese tourists .. nothing at all to do with it  :D :D

You think maybe the idea that you cannot climb the rock, but have to admire the thing from the base, is something that you have to account for as the reason why tourists do not want to go visit.

Whatever tourism destination you have in your area, you can claim the historical heritage to tourists. But, if tourists are not allowed to visit it, they won't go.

Jasin wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 11:48pm:

Ayers Rockfor Tourism is dead indeed Uluru is for the Boongs. Who said it had to be for the Tourism Industry to exploit it? Leave it for the Boongs to do what they want to do with it. It's their Uluru, not the Tourism Board's.

I have to disagree that Ayers Rock somehow "belongs"
to our Aboriginals, or it's "their" rock.  It's been there
for 550 million years, millennia before the Aborigines
ever set foot in this continent.

Ayers Rock "belongs" to each and every Australian. 
When we start creating laws and legislation based
solely on race, then all is lost in any true democracy.

(This is one major reason for my NO voice vote.)

HALF A BILLION YEARS :)

It belongs to the men. It is a "spiritually dangerous" place for women. They have their own sacred sites, where the yams grow.

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 8:37pm:

It belongs to the men. It is a "spiritually dangerous" place for women. They have their own sacred sites, where the yams grow.

Explains why you've been crying about it ::)

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 1:26pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2023 at 8:37pm: It belongs to the men. It is a "spiritually dangerous" place for women. They have their own sacred sites, where the yams grow. Explains why you've been crying about it ::)

John do you support them banning women from climbing places like Ayers Rock because it is a "spiritually dangerous" place for women?

Would you be equally supportive if white people did that?

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 1:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 1:26pm: freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2023 at 8:37pm: It belongs to the men. It is a "spiritually dangerous" place for women. They have their own sacred sites, where the yams grow. Explains why you've been crying about it ::) John do you support them banning women from climbing places like Ayers Rock because it is a "spiritually dangerous" place for women? Would you be equally supportive if white people did that?

Anything that makes you cry bring me joy FD

I blame the misinformation campaigns .. YOU?  Not that there's anything wrong with that.... a rock undisturbed by human feet of any kind for millions of years is now the exclusive domain of a few whiners and ne'er-do-wells with their hands out...

What could possibly have driven a government to such an extreme step?  Video footage of cabinet members and chief ministers in compromising situations?

What madness is this that has possessed my country - you have to admit the 20th Century was all its.... ALL of it!!  It started with giving in to the feminists, I tellz yez - now every dog act in town wants in on the prize money...

Now let's look at YES voting, Kevin!  It's been down there in the mud with man from the very beginning – it's a FAN of man!  It takes all of man's failings and turns them into god-like attributes!  If a YES vote is unthinking – it calls Man a genius!  If he parrots his learning in school – he's free-thinking!  If he votes YES on emotion he's impartial and intellectual!!  If he votes along party lines he's strong and independent! If he votes YES under pressure, he's as strong and brave as if he cuts off his own balls!!!   When he votes for minority supremacy -  he's inclusive and progressive!! YES voting was MADE for man! YES voting has brought down families, cultures, nations, economies, social and legal rights – everything that you see around you today!  You have to admit – the 20th Century was all YES voting's!!  ALL of it!  And it's peaking, Kevin..... nothing's going to stop Yes now!!

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 2:05pm:

I blame the misinformation campaigns .. YOU?  Not that there's anything wrong with that....

You've been leading the misinformation campaigns ::)

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 2:06pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 2:05pm: I blame the misinformation campaigns .. YOU?  Not that there's anything wrong with that.... You've been leading the misinformation campaigns ::)

Someone has to lead in the truth-telling around here....

I blame the misinformation campaigns .. YOU?  Not that there's anything wrong with that.... a rock undisturbed by human feet of any kind for millions of years is now the exclusive domain of a few whiners and ne'er-do-wells with their hands out...

What could possibly have driven a government to such an extreme step?  Video footage of cabinet members and chief ministers in compromising situations?

What madness is this that has possessed my country - you have to admit the 20th Century was all its.... ALL of it!!  It started with giving in to the feminists, I tellz yez - now every dog act in town wants in on the prize money...

Now let's look at YES voting, Kevin!  It's been down there in the mud with man from the very beginning – it's a FAN of man!  It takes all of man's failings and turns them into god-like attributes!  If a YES vote is unthinking – it calls Man a genius!  If he parrots his learning in school – he's free-thinking!  If he votes YES on emotion he's impartial and intellectual!!  If he votes along party lines he's strong and independent! If he votes YES under pressure, he's as strong and brave as if he cuts off his own balls!!!   When he votes for minority supremacy -  he's inclusive and progressive!! YES voting was MADE for man! YES voting has brought down families, cultures, nations, economies, social and legal rights – everything that you see around you today!  You have to admit – the 20th Century was all YES voting's!!  ALL of it!  And it's peaking, Kevin..... nothing's going to stop Yes now!!

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 2:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 2:06pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 2:05pm: I blame the misinformation campaigns .. YOU?  Not that there's anything wrong with that.... You've been leading the misinformation campaigns ::) Someone has to lead in the truth-telling around here....

you and Donald share the same definition of the word 'truth'

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 2:25pm:

you and Donald share the same definition of the word 'truth'

;D

Also from John Smith the liar:


John Smith wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 6:55pm:

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians daily for years

What is your point, freediver? Israel have been killing Palestinians daily. The only difference between Israelis killing and Palestinians killing is that Palestinians kill indiscriminately. Israelis kill those that were involved in the attacks.

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 3:32pm:

Israel have been killing Palestinians daily.

What makes you think that? Because John Smith said so? He has already revealed it is a lie he made up.

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 3:32pm:

What is your point, freediver? Israel have been killing Palestinians daily. The only difference between Israelis killing and Palestinians killing is that Palestinians kill indiscriminately. Israelis kill those that were involved in the attacks.

Crap. Israelis have killed about 6400 non combatants, that's includes women and children, in the last 17 years alone. That's more than one a day

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 4:18pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 3:32pm: What is your point, freediver? Israel have been killing Palestinians daily. The only difference between Israelis killing and Palestinians killing is that Palestinians kill indiscriminately. Israelis kill those that were involved in the attacks. Crap. Israelis have killed about 6400 non combatants, that's includes women and children, in the last 17 years alone. That's more than one a day

So what IS your solution?

Frank wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 4:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 4:18pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 3:32pm: What is your point, freediver? Israel have been killing Palestinians daily. The only difference between Israelis killing and Palestinians killing is that Palestinians kill indiscriminately. Israelis kill those that were involved in the attacks. Crap. Israelis have killed about 6400 non combatants, that's includes women and children, in the last 17 years alone. That's more than one a day So what IS your solution?

For a start, the Israelis should stop targeting innocent men women and children

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John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 4:18pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 3:32pm: What is your point, freediver? Israel have been killing Palestinians daily. The only difference between Israelis killing and Palestinians killing is that Palestinians kill indiscriminately. Israelis kill those that were involved in the attacks. Crap. Israelis have killed about 6400 non combatants, that's includes women and children, in the last 17 years alone. That's more than one a day

Palestinian combatants only look like non-combatants. That is, until they explode in a suicide bombing. The problem is that the suicide combatant just creates problems for the family, as the Israelis take their revenge against the family. Bulldozing the home of the suicide bomber is the usual reaction Israelis like to do in the aftermath.

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 4:55pm:

For a start, the Israelis should stop targeting innocent men women and children

Uh... call me confused!

What the fuck does the Palestinian/Israel war have to do with Ayers Rock?

   Please 'splain Lucy.

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 11:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 4:55pm: For a start, the Israelis should stop targeting innocent men women and children Uh... call me confused! What the fuck does the Palestinian/Israel war have to do with Ayers Rock?    Please 'splain Lucy.

They're trying to take the moral high ground, and what more perfect example is there of arse-raising from an Australian 'government' than Ayers Rock?  Every campaign must be preceded by a war of words designed to reduce your chosen enemy's capacity to respond.... ergo .. Muslim Supremacism here (rapidly taking over from White Supremacism - that farcical concept - many could do with a little more of THAT Supremacism) is intent on taking over here as well.

Allah must be right, right?  Ergo - it is Allah's will that Islam rule the world.  Now then - about those Fifth Columns we've all inherited from governments past........ and present....

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 11:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 4:55pm: For a start, the Israelis should stop targeting innocent men women and children Uh... call me confused! What the fuck does the Palestinian/Israel war have to do with Ayers Rock?    Please 'splain Lucy.

Abos will be making Holy Pilgim-walkabout the Holy Stone of Uluru.

It is a bit like the clitoris rock in Mecca. Only the men are allowed to touch it. And it tends to be the same people making excuses for all the nonsense.

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 11:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 4:55pm: For a start, the Israelis should stop targeting innocent men women and children Uh... call me confused! What the fuck does the Palestinian/Israel war have to do with Ayers Rock?    Please 'splain Lucy.

You'll have to ask FD about that, he bought up the subject not me.

Alternatively, you can stop pretending you're still a hall monitor

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 4:18pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 3:32pm: What is your point, freediver? Israel have been killing Palestinians daily. The only difference between Israelis killing and Palestinians killing is that Palestinians kill indiscriminately. Israelis kill those that were involved in the attacks. Crap. Israelis have killed about 6400 non combatants, that's includes women and children, in the last 17 years alone. That's more than one a day Palestinian combatants only look like non-combatants. That is, until they explode in a suicide bombing. The problem is that the suicide combatant just creates problems for the family, as the Israelis take their revenge against the family. Bulldozing the home of the suicide bomber is the usual reaction Israelis like to do in the aftermath.

two can play the stupid game if that's what you want


every Israeli citizen is a member of their armed forces.

John Smith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 10:08pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 4:18pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 3:32pm: What is your point, freediver? Israel have been killing Palestinians daily. The only difference between Israelis killing and Palestinians killing is that Palestinians kill indiscriminately. Israelis kill those that were involved in the attacks. Crap. Israelis have killed about 6400 non combatants, that's includes women and children, in the last 17 years alone. That's more than one a day Palestinian combatants only look like non-combatants. That is, until they explode in a suicide bombing. The problem is that the suicide combatant just creates problems for the family, as the Israelis take their revenge against the family. Bulldozing the home of the suicide bomber is the usual reaction Israelis like to do in the aftermath. two can play the stupid game if that's what you want every Israeli citizen is a member of their armed forces.

... and needs to be when enemies are hamasing on the doors all the time...

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 12:41pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 10:08pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 4:18pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 3:32pm: What is your point, freediver? Israel have been killing Palestinians daily. The only difference between Israelis killing and Palestinians killing is that Palestinians kill indiscriminately. Israelis kill those that were involved in the attacks. Crap. Israelis have killed about 6400 non combatants, that's includes women and children, in the last 17 years alone. That's more than one a day Palestinian combatants only look like non-combatants. That is, until they explode in a suicide bombing. The problem is that the suicide combatant just creates problems for the family, as the Israelis take their revenge against the family. Bulldozing the home of the suicide bomber is the usual reaction Israelis like to do in the aftermath. two can play the stupid game if that's what you want every Israeli citizen is a member of their armed forces. ... and needs to be when enemies are hamasing on the doors all the time...

your problem is that it works both ways.

John Smith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:26pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 2:23pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 12:41pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 10:08pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 4:18pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 3:32pm: What is your point, freediver? Israel have been killing Palestinians daily. The only difference between Israelis killing and Palestinians killing is that Palestinians kill indiscriminately. Israelis kill those that were involved in the attacks. Crap. Israelis have killed about 6400 non combatants, that's includes women and children, in the last 17 years alone. That's more than one a day Palestinian combatants only look like non-combatants. That is, until they explode in a suicide bombing. The problem is that the suicide combatant just creates problems for the family, as the Israelis take their revenge against the family. Bulldozing the home of the suicide bomber is the usual reaction Israelis like to do in the aftermath. two can play the stupid game if that's what you want every Israeli citizen is a member of their armed forces. ... and needs to be when enemies are hamasing on the doors all the time... your problem is that it works both ways.

Your problem is that it works both ways - chicken and egg anyone?

Now let's see here - who launched the first strikes this time around....??? Ummmm... that's a hard one..... there goes another peace accord amid footage of filthy Arabs abusing and violating and murdering women and children.

Now let's see here... when did we see Israelis - Arab or Jew - doing such things?   Ummm ... that's a hard one...

mothra had it right - suggesting carpet bombing..... (heh, heh)... strike them all out root and branch, yea e'en unto the seventh generation....

Aborigines and Moslems are much alike.
Both their cultures are 'Portals' to Africa.
One from the Middle-East,
another from Sahul (which is the region we are in).
One walks around a Holy Stone in Mecca.
Another is a Sacred Stone in Australia.

But not all Aborigines wish to stay 'traditional'.
Many now wish to be a part of and contribute to
that sublimely emerging true culture that will represent this Region in it's purest sense although this Region, one of 8 (habitable) on this planet, will have 'Portals' in existence here to the other 7 Regions... like Queensland is for North America (and California is for Australia) and Victoria is for South America (and Chile is for Australia) and so on.

So let Uluru be for the 'traditionalists' of the Aboriginal Portal. You yourselves just call it a 'rock'.

Why chase after weaknesses, when you should be following strengths.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:38pm:

Now let's see here - who launched the first strikes this time around....??? U

this time around? Why does the clock start 'this time around' and not when the last Palestinian child was murdered?

John Smith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

two can play the stupid game if that's what you want every Israeli citizen is a member of their armed forces.

You can be twice as stupid with each post you make. Israelis are conscripted into the military because the Palestinians want to destroy Israelis. Israelis are not out picking fights with Palestinians. They are reacting to the Palestinians attacking Israel.

If Palestinians stopped making attacks against the Israelis, there would be an end to hostilities. If the Israelis stopped attacking the Palestinians, there would be no more Israel. We could probably surmise that if all Jewish Israelis moved out of Israel to countries more tolerant of them, the remainder of the Israelis would succumb to genocide (unless the Israelis converted to Islam and joined Palestine).

Well said.

John Smith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:29pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 2:38pm: Now let's see here - who launched the first strikes this time around....??? U this time around? Why does the clock start 'this time around' and not when the last Palestinian child was murdered?

Oh, well - the Religion of Peace should have taken the first steps towards peace, eh?  You know - who first cut off tourism to Ayers Rock?  Who killed and ate the first Abo?  So many choices - so little time.... ummmm...

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 8^th, 2023 at 9:00pm:

It's laughable that so many non-Aboriginals seem to think that Uluru is the Vatican of Aboriginalia.

What's laughable is you making that statement.

It has nothing to do with the Vatican of Aboriginalia.

It has to do with the monolith/monument/iconic land feature.... because it's there.

The Aboriginals have had nothing to do with it until recent times.

Rock Hudson is dead?    :-/

Sophia wrote on Oct 8^th, 2023 at 10:20pm:

You know, this “take over” of Ayer’s Rock and stopping anyone (mainly non indigenous I gathered) from climbing the rock, has made me take more notice of the power the indigenous obviously have and do use. Just an example of creating division against the rest of Australians. I have felt disappointment and some bitterness for quite time some about this. In our travels now, finally finding some time to do this sort of stuff, it’s been taken from us to have that opportunity. I have no desire to go there so soon, as a result. And it’s any wonder the tourism is diminishing … I wonder why? If ownership claim is made that’s fine, but why not share a big rock that’s probably older than when dinosaurs walked the earth? This “ownership” takeover is becoming more evident where I’m living … new boards are put up near old township names with new indigenous names now. They are just springing up all over the place. It made me feel they already have a voice. Yet, in all our family history of over 100 years working on the dam constructions, and in the fields yielding fruit and vegetables for the markets, there’s only ever been 3 nationalities doing the back breaking work - Anglo aussies, Italians, and Dutch. Then at a later date as I worked in the packing sheds, along came the Vietnamese. They all came in one van, worked in the heat or rain together, and helped each other to settle into homes over the course of a few years. Never once had we seen an indigenous work in this area. Especially doing any of that back breaking work! This “Voice” vote has me stumped as it seems they are already being listened to and being allowed to rename places or shut down tourism areas to claim as their own… not sharing is selfish. I hear the “yes” vote will cause division. But I bet the “no” vote will cause division also. Nothing is clear about saying “yes” and it’s like signing a blank cheque. An adage I think I will take heed of is “When in doubt…. don’t”

The No won't cause division.

Are you saying the Aboriginals who are voting no will be a part of doing that?

They're voting No because they believe the Yes vote getting up will cause division.

And it will ..... the whole pretext is racially prejudiced.

You are right in one context .... if it aint broke don't fix it.

Our Constitution doesn't warrant amending to an open ended unelected body that not one Australian, including Aboriginals know how it's going to operate & what jurisdiction it will have. 

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:01pm:

Rock Hudson is dead?    :-/

And Jim Neighbors spread his ashes over his cornflakes so he could feel him going through him one more time.  ::)

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 12:41pm: two can play the stupid game if that's what you want every Israeli citizen is a member of their armed forces. You can be twice as stupid with each post you make. Israelis are conscripted into the military because the Palestinians want to destroy Israelis. Israelis are not out picking fights with Palestinians. They are reacting to the Palestinians attacking Israel. If Palestinians stopped making attacks against the Israelis, there would be an end to hostilities. If the Israelis stopped attacking the Palestinians, there would be no more Israel. We could probably surmise that if all Jewish Israelis moved out of Israel to countries more tolerant of them, the remainder of the Israelis would succumb to genocide (unless the Israelis converted to Islam and joined Palestine).

You need to stop drinking the cool aid.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 5:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 3:29pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 2:38pm: Now let's see here - who launched the first strikes this time around....??? U this time around? Why does the clock start 'this time around' and not when the last Palestinian child was murdered? Oh, well - the Religion of Peace should have taken the first steps towards peace, eh?  You know - who first cut off tourism to Ayers Rock?  Who killed and ate the first Abo?  So many choices - so little time.... ummmm...

Since when does the jews claim Judaism isn't a religion of peace?

John Smith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:14pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 5:28pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 3:29pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 2:38pm: Now let's see here - who launched the first strikes this time around....??? U this time around? Why does the clock start 'this time around' and not when the last Palestinian child was murdered? Oh, well - the Religion of Peace should have taken the first steps towards peace, eh?  You know - who first cut off tourism to Ayers Rock?  Who killed and ate the first Abo?  So many choices - so little time.... ummmm... Since when does the jews claim Judaism isn't a religion of peace?

Well - it was until they learned that being an innocent bystander who never did anything to anyone got you shot or gassed.

One of our contributors here said he would have no problem with guilty by accusation since he didn't do anything wrong - that's what they all say... as a Token Black, member of an oppressed species, here you should know the difference ...

Clearly your education is lacking somewhere......

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Well - it was until they learned that being an innocent bystander who never did anything to anyone got you shot or gassed.

Can you show where in the Tanakh that is?

John Smith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:33pm:

Quote: Well - it was until they learned that being an innocent bystander who never did anything to anyone got you shot or gassed. Can you show where in the Tanakh that is?

You're reaching way beyond your knowledge and reasoning skills.. give it up.


"Can you show me in the manual for Babi Yar where it tells you you can be shot without reason?"

"It's not in the manual, Sir!"

"Not in the manual?  You mean you never saw anyone shot at Babi Yar?"

"Yes, sir - four thousand a day!"

"Then how did you get to be there at all?"

"Well, I guess I just kind of followed the crowd, Sir."


Wake up, Smith!  You're truly struggling now... stay away from that methra and orange juice...

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 7:33pm: Quote: Well - it was until they learned that being an innocent bystander who never did anything to anyone got you shot or gassed. Can you show where in the Tanakh that is? You're reaching way beyond your knowledge and reasoning skills.. give it up. "Can you show me in the manual for Babi Yar where it tells you you can be shot without reason?" "It's not in the manual, Sir!" "Not in the manual?  You mean you never saw anyone shot at Babi Yar?" "Yes, sir - four thousand a day!" "Then how did you get to be there at all?" "Well, I guess I just kind of followed the crowd, Sir." Wake up, Smith!  You're truly struggling now... stay away from that methra and orange juice...

So that's a no then?

Is this what you call the actions of a Nation?


A middle-aged man,
called Kalejika, who belonged to a Central
Aranda local group, paid a visit to Irbmangkara,
and then told some Upper Southern Aranda men
that Ltjabakuka, the aged and highly respected
ceremonial chief of Irbmangkara, together with
some of his assistant elders, had committed
sacrilege by giving uninitiated boys men's blood
to drink from a shield into which it had been
poured for ritual purposes.

He was told this - it may have or may not have been factual - but murder followed


page 59

Then the warriors turned their murderous attention to the women and older children, and either
speared or clubbed them to death. Finally, according to the grim custom of warriors and
avengers, they broke the limbs of the infants,
leaving them to die "natural deaths". The final
number of the dead could well have reached the
high figure of from eighty to a hundred men,
women, and children.


All because it was believed some blood was drunk by uninitiated boys

So they murdered 100 people including babies

Going by the histories of White peoples, especially in Europe.
The barbarism and savagery, to even children, has been far far worse than anything yet provided by Aborigines.
The only crime the Aborigines have done upon themselves worse than other peoples - is their isolationism.

...how many people did a Roman kill? 100,000 people genocided, which in today's numbers would be like 10 million murdered and butchered. This is a white European act.

Boris would love to see Aborigines exterminated from the planet. All of his problems would be gone.
...now about these White People with Nukes who want to butcher BILLIONS around the world with 'their' invention.

Boris wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:52pm:

Is this what you call the actions of a Nation? A middle-aged man, called Kalejika, who belonged to a Central Aranda local group, paid a visit to Irbmangkara, and then told some Upper Southern Aranda men that Ltjabakuka, the aged and highly respected ceremonial chief of Irbmangkara, together with some of his assistant elders, had committed sacrilege by giving uninitiated boys men's blood to drink from a shield into which it had been poured for ritual purposes. He was told this - it may have or may not have been factual - but murder followed page 59 Then the warriors turned their murderous attention to the women and older children, and either speared or clubbed them to death. Finally, according to the grim custom of warriors and avengers, they broke the limbs of the infants, leaving them to die "natural deaths". The final number of the dead could well have reached the high figure of from eighty to a hundred men, women, and children. All because it was believed some blood was drunk by uninitiated boys So they murdered 100 people including babies

This still happens today

Boris wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:52pm:

Is this what you call the actions of a Nation? A middle-aged man, called Kalejika, who belonged to a Central Aranda local group, paid a visit to Irbmangkara, and then told some Upper Southern Aranda men that Ltjabakuka, the aged and highly respected ceremonial chief of Irbmangkara, together with some of his assistant elders, had committed sacrilege by giving uninitiated boys men's blood to drink from a shield into which it had been poured for ritual purposes. He was told this - it may have or may not have been factual - but murder followed page 59 Then the warriors turned their murderous attention to the women and older children, and either speared or clubbed them to death. Finally, according to the grim custom of warriors and avengers, they broke the limbs of the infants, leaving them to die "natural deaths". The final number of the dead could well have reached the high figure of from eighty to a hundred men, women, and children. All because it was believed some blood was drunk by uninitiated boys So they murdered 100 people including babies

Yet another example of the misleading bullshit you
post here—with absolutely no current relevance.

I can't really believe that you're stupid enough to
cite something that happened 150 years ago as an
even vague reflection of what our Aboriginal communities
are like in 2023.

This just shows your desperation to prove some distorted
statistics that support your reprehensible racist claims.

   You're a vile, lying piece of work mate.    >:(

John Smith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 3:47pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 12:41pm: two can play the stupid game if that's what you want every Israeli citizen is a member of their armed forces. You can be twice as stupid with each post you make. Israelis are conscripted into the military because the Palestinians want to destroy Israelis. Israelis are not out picking fights with Palestinians. They are reacting to the Palestinians attacking Israel. If Palestinians stopped making attacks against the Israelis, there would be an end to hostilities. If the Israelis stopped attacking the Palestinians, there would be no more Israel. We could probably surmise that if all Jewish Israelis moved out of Israel to countries more tolerant of them, the remainder of the Israelis would succumb to genocide (unless the Israelis converted to Islam and joined Palestine). You need to stop drinking the cool aid.

Who is more likely to 'Jonestown' your ass? Israelis or Palestinians? Who is more likely to see you as the troublemaker in their lives and then go about trying to end yours?

Gordon wrote on Oct 8^th, 2023 at 8:56pm:

It's nothing  to do with lack of flights, if there was demand, there would be plenty of flights. They killed it. The national park saw a massive spike in visitors prior to the closure of the Uluru climb, Parks Australia documents show, with 406,821 tourists travelling to the region in 2019. Now, operators say the remote region is struggling to claw back to its pre-pandemic visitor numbers. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-08/nt-uluru-visitor-numbers-slump-post-covid/102947432

Tourism, is it? Been doing your research, eh?

You stick to Dubbo, dear. Far closer than Alice, and you don't need a tin of petrol to get a Boong in the sack.

Half a cask and a Rohypnol will do the trick - just make sure to bring a decent-sized sack.

You don't want her escaping from the oval, Gordon, they can be tricky to catch. As you well know, no?

Eenie meenie minie mo.

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 1:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 1:26pm: freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2023 at 8:37pm: It belongs to the men. It is a "spiritually dangerous" place for women. They have their own sacred sites, where the yams grow. Explains why you've been crying about it ::) John do you support them banning women from climbing places like Ayers Rock because it is a "spiritually dangerous" place for women?

Hard to say, FD. Far safer to have them swarming around the oval in Dubbo. Half a cask of goon and you're in for a crack.

Check with Gordon for the latest ticket prices. He's got a group discount rate - most competitive.

We could always say that there is heaps of GOLD under all that rock and they'll be pretty much stuffed after that.

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 11:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 7:12pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 3:47pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 12:41pm: two can play the stupid game if that's what you want every Israeli citizen is a member of their armed forces. You can be twice as stupid with each post you make. Israelis are conscripted into the military because the Palestinians want to destroy Israelis. Israelis are not out picking fights with Palestinians. They are reacting to the Palestinians attacking Israel. If Palestinians stopped making attacks against the Israelis, there would be an end to hostilities. If the Israelis stopped attacking the Palestinians, there would be no more Israel. We could probably surmise that if all Jewish Israelis moved out of Israel to countries more tolerant of them, the remainder of the Israelis would succumb to genocide (unless the Israelis converted to Islam and joined Palestine). You need to stop drinking the cool aid. Who is more likely to 'Jonestown' your ass? Israelis or Palestinians? Who is more likely to see you as the troublemaker in their lives and then go about trying to end yours?

So your argument is that Israel is allowed to murder innocent men women and children because some Palestinians are just as bad?
Like I said,  you need to stop drinking the cool aid

You on all nighter again, Smith?  what's your secret?  I told you to stay off the methra and orange juice...

You multiple personalities are such a laugh....

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 10:47pm:

Boris wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 8:52pm: Is this what you call the actions of a Nation? A middle-aged man, called Kalejika, who belonged to a Central Aranda local group, paid a visit to Irbmangkara, and then told some Upper Southern Aranda men that Ltjabakuka, the aged and highly respected ceremonial chief of Irbmangkara, together with some of his assistant elders, had committed sacrilege by giving uninitiated boys men's blood to drink from a shield into which it had been poured for ritual purposes. He was told this - it may have or may not have been factual - but murder followed page 59 Then the warriors turned their murderous attention to the women and older children, and either speared or clubbed them to death. Finally, according to the grim custom of warriors and avengers, they broke the limbs of the infants, leaving them to die "natural deaths". The final number of the dead could well have reached the high figure of from eighty to a hundred men, women, and children. All because it was believed some blood was drunk by uninitiated boys So they murdered 100 people including babies Yet another example of the misleading bullshit you post here—with absolutely no current relevance. I can't really believe that you're stupid enough to cite something that happened 150 years ago as an even vague reflection of what our Aboriginal communities are like in 2023. This just shows your desperation to prove some distorted statistics that support your reprehensible racist claims.    You're a vile, lying piece of work mate.    >:(

It is not misleading

This is the "Culture" of the Aborigines.

This is what they do - still now - payback for perceived spiritual misdeeds.

It still happens now.

It was believed Uninitiated boys drank sacred blood - so 100 people were murdered - and that led to more payback killings

read it - it is what happened and it is what still happens now.

But you being a total idiot who never lived in Alice Springs and never worked for the Health Department - you are just plain IGNORANT and STUPID

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 6:16am:

You on all nighter again, Smith?  what's your secret?  I told you to stay off the methra and orange juice... You multiple personalities are such a laugh....

All nighter? You need to upgrade your glasses old man

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 4:18pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 3:32pm: What is your point, freediver? Israel have been killing Palestinians daily. The only difference between Israelis killing and Palestinians killing is that Palestinians kill indiscriminately. Israelis kill those that were involved in the attacks. Crap. Israelis have killed about 6400 non combatants, that's includes women and children, in the last 17 years alone. That's more than one a day

And that happens you dumbarse because HAMAS terrorists use their own women & children as human shields.

Gnads wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 9:01am:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 4:18pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 3:32pm: What is your point, freediver? Israel have been killing Palestinians daily. The only difference between Israelis killing and Palestinians killing is that Palestinians kill indiscriminately. Israelis kill those that were involved in the attacks. Crap. Israelis have killed about 6400 non combatants, that's includes women and children, in the last 17 years alone. That's more than one a day And that happens you dumbarse because HAMAS terrorists use their own women & children as human shields.

About 25% of Hamas first rockets misfire and land in Palestine, and becasue its so densely populated they kill more of their own people than the ones that actually land in Israel

Gordon wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 9:13am:

Gnads wrote on Oct 13th, 2023 at 9:01am: John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 4:18pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 3:32pm: What is your point, freediver? Israel have been killing Palestinians daily. The only difference between Israelis killing and Palestinians killing is that Palestinians kill indiscriminately. Israelis kill those that were involved in the attacks. Crap. Israelis have killed about 6400 non combatants, that's includes women and children, in the last 17 years alone. That's more than one a day And that happens you dumbarse because HAMAS terrorists use their own women & children as human shields. About 25% of Hamas first rockets misfire and land in Palestine, and becasue its so densely populated they kill more of their own people than the ones that actually land in Israel

Not this time.

Just because the Muslims are stupid and incompetent and cause the deaths of far more of their own people, does not mean that aren't to blame.

The safest place to live in Israel is right next to the Borders.
...where the missiles 'go over' them.

Gnads wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 9:01am:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 4:18pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2023 at 3:32pm: What is your point, freediver? Israel have been killing Palestinians daily. The only difference between Israelis killing and Palestinians killing is that Palestinians kill indiscriminately. Israelis kill those that were involved in the attacks. Crap. Israelis have killed about 6400 non combatants, that's includes women and children, in the last 17 years alone. That's more than one a day And that happens you dumbarse because HAMAS terrorists use their own women & children as human shields.

if thats your excuse you go for it

It's not an excuse you Gronk.
It's a reality and fact.

We need to send Smith and Co over to fight for Palestinian Liberation.... I'll start a GoFundMe page for the tickets... that'll soon sort their minds out...  Maybe we could throw Albo and Wong in, too as a bonus.... though two Wongs could never make this right...  on the subject of career politicians sucking millions out of treasury for life ...  hmmmm ...

They would all run and hide behind children.

Jasin wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 11:31am:

They would all run and hide behind children.

You mean like this one?  Well - tear my heart strings and call it a rip-off ... get into school, work hard, meet the full requirements for Sydney Uni and you could make it possible yourself ... it's no good moaning out in the boonies or the Badlands suburbs ...

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 11:28am:

We need to send Smith and Co over to fight for Palestinian Liberation.... I'll start a GoFundMe page for the tickets... that'll soon sort their minds out...  Maybe we could throw Albo and Wong in, too as a bonus.... though two Wongs could never make this right...  on the subject of career politicians sucking millions out of treasury for life ...  hmmmm ...

take your medication crappler

John Smith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 5:06am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 11:42pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 7:12pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 3:47pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 12:41pm: two can play the stupid game if that's what you want every Israeli citizen is a member of their armed forces. You can be twice as stupid with each post you make. Israelis are conscripted into the military because the Palestinians want to destroy Israelis. Israelis are not out picking fights with Palestinians. They are reacting to the Palestinians attacking Israel. If Palestinians stopped making attacks against the Israelis, there would be an end to hostilities. If the Israelis stopped attacking the Palestinians, there would be no more Israel. We could probably surmise that if all Jewish Israelis moved out of Israel to countries more tolerant of them, the remainder of the Israelis would succumb to genocide (unless the Israelis converted to Islam and joined Palestine). You need to stop drinking the cool aid. Who is more likely to 'Jonestown' your ass? Israelis or Palestinians? Who is more likely to see you as the troublemaker in their lives and then go about trying to end yours? So your argument is that Israel is allowed to murder innocent men women and children because some Palestinians are just as bad? Like I said,  you need to stop drinking the cool aid

My argument is that the Palestinians have a chip on their collective shoulders in regard to the Israelis. And from what I gather about the reports by Jews around the world (including one guy that was in the Australian army), the Palestinians (and many Middle Easterners) have a problem with Jewish people, simply because of the association with Israel.

Israelis are not going about indiscriminately shooting Palestinians dead. That might well have changed in the last week, given that Israel is going to war with Hamas. But, the Israelis are not going about picking fights with the Palestinians simply because of their ethnicity.

Jasin wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 9:51am:

The safest place to live in Israel is right next to the Borders. ...where the missiles 'go over' them.

...or 'through' them.

John Smith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 11:52am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 13th, 2023 at 11:28am: We need to send Smith and Co over to fight for Palestinian Liberation.... I'll start a GoFundMe page for the tickets... that'll soon sort their minds out...  Maybe we could throw Albo and Wong in, too as a bonus.... though two Wongs could never make this right...  on the subject of career politicians sucking millions out of treasury for life ...  hmmmm ... take your medication crappler

Put on your new hat with the 'Caution - Soft Edges' band on the outside...

John Smith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 11:52am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 13th, 2023 at 11:28am: We need to send Smith and Co over to fight for Palestinian Liberation.... I'll start a GoFundMe page for the tickets... that'll soon sort their minds out...  Maybe we could throw Albo and Wong in, too as a bonus.... though two Wongs could never make this right...  on the subject of career politicians sucking millions out of treasury for life ...  hmmmm ... take your medication crappler

Now now, JS, as Grappler contends, two Wongs don't make a white.

Other great Grappler discussion points:

Aussie for the Aussies.

We grew here, they flew here.

Fuck off, we're full.

FD wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 3:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 13th, 2023 at 11:52am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 13th, 2023 at 11:28am: We need to send Smith and Co over to fight for Palestinian Liberation.... I'll start a GoFundMe page for the tickets... that'll soon sort their minds out...  Maybe we could throw Albo and Wong in, too as a bonus.... though two Wongs could never make this right...  on the subject of career politicians sucking millions out of treasury for life ...  hmmmm ... take your medication crappler Now now, JS, as Grappler contends, two Wongs don't make a white. Other great Grappler discussion points: Aussie for the Aussies. We grew here, they flew here. Fuck off, we're full.

Best you go back to your homework...  Aussie for the Aussies worked for ages until all the ring-ins arrived - we had a criminal class who booted one another up the arse for robbing ordinary folk - now we've got ordinary folk robbers who own the criminal classes...

Bring back the rack - the town stocks, and dunking before deportation...

Africa for the Africans is working out a treat, innit?  You know - Asia for the Asians - Mao Massacres and Pol Pot - Japanese Intervention... Indies and Pakis slaughtering one another... South America for the South Americans is doing wonders for the shrunken head trade... the drug trade etc... despotism, tyranny and murder of dissidents even priests... eastern Europe for Eastern Europe is killing thousands... Arabia for the Arabs is an endless massacre ....

All going great guns - and you are here why again?  You could do so much better there.... anywhere but here, eh?

Sniveling rat racer....

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 1:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 13th, 2023 at 5:06am: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 11:42pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 7:12pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 3:47pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2023 at 12:41pm: two can play the stupid game if that's what you want every Israeli citizen is a member of their armed forces. You can be twice as stupid with each post you make. Israelis are conscripted into the military because the Palestinians want to destroy Israelis. Israelis are not out picking fights with Palestinians. They are reacting to the Palestinians attacking Israel. If Palestinians stopped making attacks against the Israelis, there would be an end to hostilities. If the Israelis stopped attacking the Palestinians, there would be no more Israel. We could probably surmise that if all Jewish Israelis moved out of Israel to countries more tolerant of them, the remainder of the Israelis would succumb to genocide (unless the Israelis converted to Islam and joined Palestine). You need to stop drinking the cool aid. Who is more likely to 'Jonestown' your ass? Israelis or Palestinians? Who is more likely to see you as the troublemaker in their lives and then go about trying to end yours? So your argument is that Israel is allowed to murder innocent men women and children because some Palestinians are just as bad? Like I said,  you need to stop drinking the cool aid My argument is that the Palestinians have a chip on their collective shoulders in regard to the Israelis. And from what I gather about the reports by Jews around the world (including one guy that was in the Australian army), the Palestinians (and many Middle Easterners) have a problem with Jewish people, simply because of the association with Israel. Israelis are not going about indiscriminately shooting Palestinians dead. That might well have changed in the last week, given that Israel is going to war with Hamas. But, the Israelis are not going about picking fights with the Palestinians simply because of their ethnicity.

UN says differently. In the last 17 years over 6400 Palestinian non combatants have been killed by Israelis not picking fights ::)

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 1:45pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 13th, 2023 at 11:52am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 13th, 2023 at 11:28am: We need to send Smith and Co over to fight for Palestinian Liberation.... I'll start a GoFundMe page for the tickets... that'll soon sort their minds out...  Maybe we could throw Albo and Wong in, too as a bonus.... though two Wongs could never make this right...  on the subject of career politicians sucking millions out of treasury for life ...  hmmmm ... take your medication crappler Put on your new hat with the 'Caution - Soft Edges' band on the outside...

you'll have to  take it out of your arse first but so far you've been unwilling

Speaking of shrunken heads Grapps.
The Gronk is back.  ::)

Jasin wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 5:26pm:

Speaking of shrunken heads Grapps. The Gronk is back.  ::)

A fungus infection in the arse crack of Ozpol..... seems that Whartey Proof Fence up there is working.... too well - even the Nipponers won't come without a climb...  Uncle Billy was going to entertain them all with traditional stories while they looked at Our Rock two miles away over a mine field.....  I'll do anything, Br'er Dingo - just don't throw me up on that Rock!!

Say - are those Abo-imported dingoes native or what?  They bin 'ere long enough, bro?

I think they're been here less than 9,000 years but longer than the didgeree-doos of just 6,000 years.

Jasin wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 6:02pm:

I think they're been here less than 9,000 years but longer than the didgeree-doos of just 6,000 years.

So length of service means you're more and more Indigenous?