8.7-million-year-old skull suggests we didn’t evolve in Africa after all


https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/8-7-million-year-old-skull-suggests-we-didn-t-evolve-in-africa-after-all-20230903-p5e1n9.html

But we have similar DNA to darkies.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2023 at 9:06pm:

But we have similar DNA to darkies.

They devolved from us :)

Gordon wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2023 at 9:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 9:06pm: But we have similar DNA to darkies. They devolved from us :)

We evolved in different ways.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2023 at 9:14pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 9:12pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 9:06pm: But we have similar DNA to darkies. They devolved from us :) We evolved in different ways.

https://i.ibb.co/q7fYwKv/160520175007-onitsha-traffick-pollution.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/dWt0wNZ/TAL-header-hallstatt-austria-BEAUTEURO0323-640d96b8cfd141c9af4582fd1f11bb42.jpg

We're asking black guys to beat us up:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/4yHGM9WVPCEd/

60,000 years ago the Aborigines had the nullah-nullah and the proto-Europeans only had the club!!  Darkies ARE more advanced!!  The Aborigines moved from the nullah-nullah to space exploration while the Europeans and their offspring languished in barbarity and low tech sub-civilisation (ummmm - wait a minute)!!  They had navigation when Euros could only find their way from one place to another.... they had astronomy when Euros could only look at the stars and wonder... they invented bread - ask Pascoe... the ultimate grain-less bread!!!  Most sophisticated bread ever known ... trade name Emperor's New Loaves!!!!   :o :o :o   8-)   ::)   :-?

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2023 at 10:08pm:

60,000 years ago the Aborigines had the nullah-nullah and the proto-Europeans only had the club!!  Darkies ARE more advanced!!

The first large structures came out of North Africa -
the Pyramids in Egypt - 5,000 years ago -
so the darkies were more advanced than us at one stage.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2023 at 10:13pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:08pm: 60,000 years ago the Aborigines had the nullah-nullah and the proto-Europeans only had the club!!  Darkies ARE more advanced!! The first large structures came out of North Africa - the Pyramids in Egypt - 5,000 years ago - so the darkies were more advanced than us at one stage.

Aye - but they were nay darkies..... they were Grecos and proto-Gaels .....  from the shores of the now Persian Gulf and the Mediterranean - hence the fabulous Gaelic noses and ears ...... the Fertile Crescent .... Noah was one such.... damn - forgot his name... ahhh - Milesius ... ancient ancestor - was an Egyptian general and his tribe(s) moved across North Africa and then through Spain and Portugal and on to Ireland and Scotland....

Ergo - the pyramid builders or at least the supervisors, engineers and such were Irish Originals..... the Clan Chronicler knows it all.... shares his time between Maine and Florida.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milesians_(Irish)

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/dec/28/origins-of-the-irish-down-to-mass-migration-ancient-dna-confirms

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2023 at 10:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:13pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:08pm: 60,000 years ago the Aborigines had the nullah-nullah and the proto-Europeans only had the club!!  Darkies ARE more advanced!! The first large structures came out of North Africa - the Pyramids in Egypt - 5,000 years ago - so the darkies were more advanced than us at one stage. Aye - but they were nay darkies..... they were Grecos and proto-Gaels .....  from the shores of the now Persian Gulf and the Mediterranean - hence the fabulous Gaelic noses and ears ...... the Fertile Crescent .... Noah was one such.... damn - forgot his name... ahhh - Milesius ... ancient ancestor - was an Egyptian general and his tribe(s) moved across North Africa and then through Spain and Portugal and on to Ireland and Scotland.... Ergo - the pyramid builders or at least the supervisors, engineers and such were Irish Originals..... the Clan Chronicler knows it all.... shares his time between Maine and Florida. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milesians_(Irish) https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/dec/28/origins-of-the-irish-down-to-mass-migration-ancient-dna-confirms

No way - the Egyptians are dark skinned.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2023 at 10:34pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:24pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:13pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:08pm: 60,000 years ago the Aborigines had the nullah-nullah and the proto-Europeans only had the club!!  Darkies ARE more advanced!! The first large structures came out of North Africa - the Pyramids in Egypt - 5,000 years ago - so the darkies were more advanced than us at one stage. Aye - but they were nay darkies..... they were Grecos and proto-Gaels .....  from the shores of the now Persian Gulf and the Mediterranean - hence the fabulous Gaelic noses and ears ...... the Fertile Crescent .... Noah was one such.... damn - forgot his name... ahhh - Milesius ... ancient ancestor - was an Egyptian general and his tribe(s) moved across North Africa and then through Spain and Portugal and on to Ireland and Scotland.... Ergo - the pyramid builders or at least the supervisors, engineers and such were Irish Originals..... the Clan Chronicler knows it all.... shares his time between Maine and Florida. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milesians_(Irish) https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/dec/28/origins-of-the-irish-down-to-mass-migration-ancient-dna-confirms No way - the Egyptians are dark skinned.

Not all of them.... and the Gaels coming from the Fertile Crescent would have been brown...

Remember these are Gaels - not the mixed Irish you see these days with Viking, Norman, Danish and such...   Doyles - Dubhghaill - are 'Dark Strangers' - Danish in fact ......

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2023 at 10:43pm:

Not all of them.... and the Gaels coming from the Fertile Crescent would have been brown... Remember these are Gaels - not the mixed Irish you see these days with Viking, Norman, Danish and such...   Doyles - Dubhghaill - are 'Dark Strangers' - Danish in fact ......

Still the Pyramids are another story.
Some blocks of stone were so accurately fitted that
you can't slide a razor blade between the stones.
Could we even build such a structure today?

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2023 at 10:55pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:43pm: Not all of them.... and the Gaels coming from the Fertile Crescent would have been brown... Remember these are Gaels - not the mixed Irish you see these days with Viking, Norman, Danish and such...   Doyles - Dubhghaill - are 'Dark Strangers' - Danish in fact ...... Still the Pyramids are another story. Some blocks of stone were so accurately fitted that you can't slide a razor blade between the stones. Could we even build such a structure today?

.... and it was all done so accurately with a bone saw cutting sandstone!! Irish Engineers!!  Arm and shoulder muscles like oxen and a short life span to boot!  Read a story once about some British pilots sent to Singapore, and one of them admired the leg muscles of their rickshaw driver and thought he might give it a go.... then he found out their lifespan.... no, thanks....

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2023 at 11:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:55pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:43pm: Not all of them.... and the Gaels coming from the Fertile Crescent would have been brown... Remember these are Gaels - not the mixed Irish you see these days with Viking, Norman, Danish and such...   Doyles - Dubhghaill - are 'Dark Strangers' - Danish in fact ...... Still the Pyramids are another story. Some blocks of stone were so accurately fitted that you can't slide a razor blade between the stones. Could we even build such a structure today? .... and it was all done so accurately with a bone saw cutting sandstone!! Irish Engineers!!  Arm and shoulder muscles like oxen and a short life span to boot!  Read a story once about some British pilots sent to Singapore, and one of them admired the leg muscles of their rickshaw driver and thought he might give it a go.... then he found out their lifespan.... no, thanks....

You try to get two  40 tonne stones to line up that accurately
and move them into position way up high on a pyramid.   :)

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2023 at 11:35pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 11:23pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:55pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:43pm: Not all of them.... and the Gaels coming from the Fertile Crescent would have been brown... Remember these are Gaels - not the mixed Irish you see these days with Viking, Norman, Danish and such...   Doyles - Dubhghaill - are 'Dark Strangers' - Danish in fact ...... Still the Pyramids are another story. Some blocks of stone were so accurately fitted that you can't slide a razor blade between the stones. Could we even build such a structure today? .... and it was all done so accurately with a bone saw cutting sandstone!! Irish Engineers!!  Arm and shoulder muscles like oxen and a short life span to boot!  Read a story once about some British pilots sent to Singapore, and one of them admired the leg muscles of their rickshaw driver and thought he might give it a go.... then he found out their lifespan.... no, thanks.... You try to get two  40 tonne stones to line up that accurately and move them into position way up high on a pyramid.   :)

Blue Sky Hooks Inc.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2023 at 10:55pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:43pm: Not all of them.... and the Gaels coming from the Fertile Crescent would have been brown... Remember these are Gaels - not the mixed Irish you see these days with Viking, Norman, Danish and such...   Doyles - Dubhghaill - are 'Dark Strangers' - Danish in fact ...... Still the Pyramids are another story. Some blocks of stone were so accurately fitted that you can't slide a razor blade between the stones. Could we even build such a structure today?

Apparently not! And certainly not with the same accuracy.
It makes me wonder about these world wonders…..how there existed ancient intelligent civilisations over the ages. Why should we humans alive in the here and now consider ourselves more intelligent to date?
Different smart … not same smart as in past… which is baffling to us to work out or even replicate.
Long lost knowledge.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2023 at 10:13pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:08pm: 60,000 years ago the Aborigines had the nullah-nullah and the proto-Europeans only had the club!!  Darkies ARE more advanced!! The first large structures came out of North Africa - the Pyramids in Egypt - 5,000 years ago - so the darkies were more advanced than us at one stage.

The ancient Egyptians were more closely related to Europeans than sub-Saharan Africans

The Australian aborigines invented the returning
boomerang, or rotating wing, 50,000 years ago.

Such a command of complex aerodynamics and
physics certainly puts the numerous racists here
on the back foot.

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 9:17am:

The Australian aborigines invented the returning boomerang, or rotating wing, 50,000 years ago. Such a command of complex aerodynamics and physics certainly puts the numerous racists here on the back foot.

The Abbos did very little farming and they built no cities.
They used to mostly slash and burn the bush to get tucker -
picking up poor burnt animals to eat.

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 9:17am:

The Australian aborigines invented the returning boomerang, or rotating wing, 50,000 years ago. Such a command of complex aerodynamics and physics certainly puts the numerous racists here on the back foot.

What a load of utter garbage.

My 6 year old can make awesome paper aeroplanes.
Do you think he has a complex command of aerodynamics and
physics?

Gordon wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 9:53am:

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:17am: The Australian aborigines invented the returning boomerang, or rotating wing, 50,000 years ago. Such a command of complex aerodynamics and physics certainly puts the numerous racists here on the back foot. What a load of utter garbage. My 6 year old can make awesome paper aeroplanes. Do you think he has a complex command of aerodynamics and physics?

He is constructing what you showed him, 50,000 years ago he didn't even have paper. At that point your forbearers may have resembled a cockroach if this evolution theory is correct. It would make sense.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2023 at 10:13pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:08pm: 60,000 years ago the Aborigines had the nullah-nullah and the proto-Europeans only had the club!!  Darkies ARE more advanced!! The first large structures came out of North Africa - the Pyramids in Egypt - 5,000 years ago - so the darkies were more advanced than us at one stage.

They were not more advanced than us they were us.

This story is saying that there was a type of ape in Europe before Humans existed in Africa. This ape is not the type of ape that Humans developed from it is just a step on the way. The theory goes on to say that this ape likely migrated to Africa where Humans first appeared. This bit is not under contention.

Humans first appearing from Africa is not questioned it has just been pointed out that an ape that may have migrated to Africa once lived in europe. This ape may or may not (most likely not based on its genetics) have had something to do with the human linage.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 10:08am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:53am: AusGeoff wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:17am: The Australian aborigines invented the returning boomerang, or rotating wing, 50,000 years ago. Such a command of complex aerodynamics and physics certainly puts the numerous racists here on the back foot. What a load of utter garbage. My 6 year old can make awesome paper aeroplanes. Do you think he has a complex command of aerodynamics and physics? He is constructing what you showed him, 50,000 years ago he didn't even have paper. At that point your forbearers may have resembled a cockroach if this evolution theory is correct. It would make sense.

They worked out shaving different surfaces on a stick caused lift.
Do you really think that equals a complex command of aerodynamics and physics?

Gordon wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 11:55am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:53am: AusGeoff wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:17am: The Australian aborigines invented the returning boomerang, or rotating wing, 50,000 years ago. Such a command of complex aerodynamics and physics certainly puts the numerous racists here on the back foot. What a load of utter garbage. My 6 year old can make awesome paper aeroplanes. Do you think he has a complex command of aerodynamics and physics? He is constructing what you showed him, 50,000 years ago he didn't even have paper. At that point your forbearers may have resembled a cockroach if this evolution theory is correct. It would make sense. They worked out shaving different surfaces on a stick caused lift. Do you really think that equals a complex command of aerodynamics and physics?

Doubt that you would have worked it out.

They obviously understood the principle of flight and also managed to build in a simple remote control / auto return system.

Gordon wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 11:55am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:53am: AusGeoff wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:17am: The Australian aborigines invented the returning boomerang, or rotating wing, 50,000 years ago. Such a command of complex aerodynamics and physics certainly puts the numerous racists here on the back foot. What a load of utter garbage. My 6 year old can make awesome paper aeroplanes. Do you think he has a complex command of aerodynamics and physics? He is constructing what you showed him, 50,000 years ago he didn't even have paper. At that point your forbearers may have resembled a cockroach if this evolution theory is correct. It would make sense. They worked out shaving different surfaces on a stick caused lift. Do you really think that equals a complex command of aerodynamics and physics?

The first step that everyone else has built on.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 10:19am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:13pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:08pm: 60,000 years ago the Aborigines had the nullah-nullah and the proto-Europeans only had the club!!  Darkies ARE more advanced!! The first large structures came out of North Africa - the Pyramids in Egypt - 5,000 years ago - so the darkies were more advanced than us at one stage. They were not more advanced than us they were us. This story is saying that there was a type of ape in Europe before Humans existed in Africa. This ape is not the type of ape that Humans developed from it is just a step on the way. The theory goes on to say that this ape likely migrated to Africa where Humans first appeared. This bit is not under contention. Humans first appearing from Africa is not questioned it has just been pointed out that an ape that may have migrated to Africa once lived in europe. This ape may or may not (most likely not based on its genetics) have had something to do with the human linage.

Do you think darkies are closer to the apes than white people?

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 12:30pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 10:19am: Bobby. wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:13pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 10:08pm: 60,000 years ago the Aborigines had the nullah-nullah and the proto-Europeans only had the club!!  Darkies ARE more advanced!! The first large structures came out of North Africa - the Pyramids in Egypt - 5,000 years ago - so the darkies were more advanced than us at one stage. They were not more advanced than us they were us. This story is saying that there was a type of ape in Europe before Humans existed in Africa. This ape is not the type of ape that Humans developed from it is just a step on the way. The theory goes on to say that this ape likely migrated to Africa where Humans first appeared. This bit is not under contention. Humans first appearing from Africa is not questioned it has just been pointed out that an ape that may have migrated to Africa once lived in europe. This ape may or may not (most likely not based on its genetics) have had something to do with the human linage. Do you think darkies are closer to the apes than white people?

No, The difference is that the white races moved and lived in the north for long enough that there was a pigment change. There is no argument for a biological superiority based on colour either way. The difference was driven by environment not biology or development. It is the same race developed at the same time. We were likely all darker in the beginning, I don't know what shade.

Whiteness may be a darwinian effect.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

No, The difference is that the white races moved and lived in the north for long enough that there was a pigment change. There is no argument for a biological superiority based on colour either way. The difference was driven by environment not biology or development. It is the same race developed at the same time. We were likely all darker in the beginning, I don't know what shade. Whiteness may be a darwinian effect.

Ummm - you could probably argue that the Chinese are the furthest from the apes.
They seem to do better at Universities on average compared with everyone else.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 12:26pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 11:55am: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:53am: AusGeoff wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:17am: The Australian aborigines invented the returning boomerang, or rotating wing, 50,000 years ago. Such a command of complex aerodynamics and physics certainly puts the numerous racists here on the back foot. What a load of utter garbage. My 6 year old can make awesome paper aeroplanes. Do you think he has a complex command of aerodynamics and physics? He is constructing what you showed him, 50,000 years ago he didn't even have paper. At that point your forbearers may have resembled a cockroach if this evolution theory is correct. It would make sense. They worked out shaving different surfaces on a stick caused lift. Do you really think that equals a complex command of aerodynamics and physics? The first step that everyone else has built on.

You're an idiot of the first order.
There's a direct line from kites and sails to aeronautical wings.
Ever sailed? A sail is exactly the same as an aeronautical wing, in use for at least 5 thousand years before a boomerang was sighted.

Quote:

A sail is exactly the same as an aeronautical wing, in use for at least 5 thousand years before a boomerang was sighted.

The one that acts as a wing is a fairly recent invention I think.

freediver wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 3:31pm:

Quote: A sail is exactly the same as an aeronautical wing, in use for at least 5 thousand years before a boomerang was sighted. The one that acts as a wing is a fairly recent invention I think.

Are you thinking of rigid sails?
Even a square rig can go up wind.
Boats have been going upwind for a few thousand years. If a boat can sail upwind its using lift to do so.

Gordon wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 3:59pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 3:31pm: Quote: A sail is exactly the same as an aeronautical wing, in use for at least 5 thousand years before a boomerang was sighted. The one that acts as a wing is a fairly recent invention I think. Are you thinking of rigid sails? Even a square rig can go up wind. Boats have been going upwind for a few thousand years. If a boat can sail upwind its using lift to do so.

I'm pretty sure you can do that with a flat piece of plywood on roller skates. You don't need to invoke an aeronautical wing to explain is.

The general idea is that humans had a common ancestor before that ancestor was human. Modern man is about 200,000 years old. The ancestors prior to that might well have travelled all over Asia, Africa and Europe and developed their modern man features that included different racial characteristics. Different climates and diets would have accounted for these different characteristics.

freediver wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 4:10pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 3:59pm: freediver wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 3:31pm: Quote: A sail is exactly the same as an aeronautical wing, in use for at least 5 thousand years before a boomerang was sighted. The one that acts as a wing is a fairly recent invention I think. Are you thinking of rigid sails? Even a square rig can go up wind. Boats have been going upwind for a few thousand years. If a boat can sail upwind its using lift to do so. I'm pretty sure you can do that with a flat piece of plywood on roller skates. You don't need to invoke an aeronautical wing to explain is.

If a flat piece of plywood on roller skates can go up wind, it's acting is the same way as an aeronautical wing  :)

Gordon wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 4:24pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:10pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 3:59pm: freediver wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 3:31pm: Quote: A sail is exactly the same as an aeronautical wing, in use for at least 5 thousand years before a boomerang was sighted. The one that acts as a wing is a fairly recent invention I think. Are you thinking of rigid sails? Even a square rig can go up wind. Boats have been going upwind for a few thousand years. If a boat can sail upwind its using lift to do so. I'm pretty sure you can do that with a flat piece of plywood on roller skates. You don't need to invoke an aeronautical wing to explain is. If a flat piece of plywood on roller skates can go up wind, it's acting is the same way as an aeronautical wing  :)

It that case it's the curved surface - the same as a sail that
allows a ship or yacht to sail into the wind.
It acts like a wing.

freediver wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 4:10pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 3:59pm: freediver wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 3:31pm: Quote: A sail is exactly the same as an aeronautical wing, in use for at least 5 thousand years before a boomerang was sighted. The one that acts as a wing is a fairly recent invention I think. Are you thinking of rigid sails? Even a square rig can go up wind. Boats have been going upwind for a few thousand years. If a boat can sail upwind its using lift to do so. I'm pretty sure you can do that with a flat piece of plywood on roller skates. You don't need to invoke an aeronautical wing to explain is.

It's still the same physics. Creating low pressure/high pressure system where the object/boat is is pulled into the low pressure.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 12:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:41pm: No, The difference is that the white races moved and lived in the north for long enough that there was a pigment change. There is no argument for a biological superiority based on colour either way. The difference was driven by environment not biology or development. It is the same race developed at the same time. We were likely all darker in the beginning, I don't know what shade. Whiteness may be a darwinian effect. Ummm - you could probably argue that the Chinese are the furthest from the apes. They seem to do better at Universities on average compared with everyone else.

No all the same

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 4:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:41pm: No, The difference is that the white races moved and lived in the north for long enough that there was a pigment change. There is no argument for a biological superiority based on colour either way. The difference was driven by environment not biology or development. It is the same race developed at the same time. We were likely all darker in the beginning, I don't know what shade. Whiteness may be a darwinian effect. Ummm - you could probably argue that the Chinese are the furthest from the apes. They seem to do better at Universities on average compared with everyone else. No all the same

How come the Chinese and Japanese are so smart?

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:42pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:41pm: No, The difference is that the white races moved and lived in the north for long enough that there was a pigment change. There is no argument for a biological superiority based on colour either way. The difference was driven by environment not biology or development. It is the same race developed at the same time. We were likely all darker in the beginning, I don't know what shade. Whiteness may be a darwinian effect. Ummm - you could probably argue that the Chinese are the furthest from the apes. They seem to do better at Universities on average compared with everyone else. No all the same How come the Chinese and Japanese are so smart?

Ya canna Han a man a grander spanner than a drive to education. Their kids are not allowed to fail whereas ours are told it doesn't matter, you're just as good and anyway Math is a racist social construct.

Setanta wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 5:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:47pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:42pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:41pm: No, The difference is that the white races moved and lived in the north for long enough that there was a pigment change. There is no argument for a biological superiority based on colour either way. The difference was driven by environment not biology or development. It is the same race developed at the same time. We were likely all darker in the beginning, I don't know what shade. Whiteness may be a darwinian effect. Ummm - you could probably argue that the Chinese are the furthest from the apes. They seem to do better at Universities on average compared with everyone else. No all the same How come the Chinese and Japanese are so smart? Ya canna Han a man a grander spanner than a drive to education. Their kids are not allowed to fail whereas ours are told it doesn't matter, you're just as good and anyway Math is a racist social construct.

When I was at Uni the Chinese students were getting obviously much higher grades
and that was despite their language handicap.   :-[

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 5:24pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 5:10pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:47pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:42pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: [quote author=Jim_Puddle-Duck link=1693738436/26#26 date=1693795287] No, The difference is that the white races moved and lived in the north for long enough that there was a pigment change. There is no argument for a biological superiority based on colour either way. The difference was driven by environment not biology or development. It is the same race developed at the same time. We were likely all darker in the beginning, I don't know what shade. Whiteness may be a darwinian effect. Ummm - you could probably argue that the Chinese are the furthest from the apes. They seem to do better at Universities on average compared with everyone else. No all the same How come the Chinese and Japanese are so smart? Ya canna Han a man a grander spanner than a drive to education. Their kids are not allowed to fail whereas ours are told it doesn't matter, you're just as good and anyway Math is a racist social construct.

When I was at Uni the Chinese students were getting obviously much higher grades
and that was despite their language handicap.   :-[/quote]

"Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man." -- Whoever said it...

Intensive rote learning doesn't help a 7yo much but when his/her knowledge base grows, there is ingrained info ready to be accessed. We gave up on that I think back in the '70s and then there was the change in the early '80s to help advance females in the math/science type subjects, ultimately only achieving that goal by bringing boys grades down.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:42pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:41pm: No, The difference is that the white races moved and lived in the north for long enough that there was a pigment change. There is no argument for a biological superiority based on colour either way. The difference was driven by environment not biology or development. It is the same race developed at the same time. We were likely all darker in the beginning, I don't know what shade. Whiteness may be a darwinian effect. Ummm - you could probably argue that the Chinese are the furthest from the apes. They seem to do better at Universities on average compared with everyone else. No all the same How come the Chinese and Japanese are so smart?

They value education.

Africans, Aborigines, Islanders who value education and apply themselves would be as 'smart'.


East Asians, Indians or Europeans who do not value education are as thick as mince - look at John Smiff or Arrsie or greatdividedparrot or ravin' ducky.

Setanta wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 6:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 5:24pm: Setanta wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 5:10pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:47pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:42pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: [quote author=Jim_Puddle-Duck link=1693738436/26#26 date=1693795287] No, The difference is that the white races moved and lived in the north for long enough that there was a pigment change. There is no argument for a biological superiority based on colour either way. The difference was driven by environment not biology or development. It is the same race developed at the same time. We were likely all darker in the beginning, I don't know what shade. Whiteness may be a darwinian effect. Ummm - you could probably argue that the Chinese are the furthest from the apes. They seem to do better at Universities on average compared with everyone else. No all the same How come the Chinese and Japanese are so smart? Ya canna Han a man a grander spanner than a drive to education. Their kids are not allowed to fail whereas ours are told it doesn't matter, you're just as good and anyway Math is a racist social construct. When I was at Uni the Chinese students were getting obviously much higher grades and that was despite their language handicap.   :-[/quote] "Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man." -- Whoever said it... Intensive rote learning doesn't help a 7yo much but when his/her knowledge base grows, there is ingrained info ready to be accessed. We gave up on that I think back in the '70s and then there was the change in the early '80s to help advance females in the math/science type subjects, ultimately only achieving that goal by bringing boys grades down.

Some old Greek guy called Aristotle who realised that the 1st 7 years of a child’s life represented a crucial formative stage of development. And of course ... he was right. 

Gordon wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 12:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:26pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 11:55am: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:53am: AusGeoff wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:17am: The Australian aborigines invented the returning boomerang, or rotating wing, 50,000 years ago. Such a command of complex aerodynamics and physics certainly puts the numerous racists here on the back foot. What a load of utter garbage. My 6 year old can make awesome paper aeroplanes. Do you think he has a complex command of aerodynamics and physics? He is constructing what you showed him, 50,000 years ago he didn't even have paper. At that point your forbearers may have resembled a cockroach if this evolution theory is correct. It would make sense. They worked out shaving different surfaces on a stick caused lift. Do you really think that equals a complex command of aerodynamics and physics? The first step that everyone else has built on. You're an idiot of the first order. There's a direct line from kites and sails to aeronautical wings. Ever sailed? A sail is exactly the same as an aeronautical wing, in use for at least 5 thousand years before a boomerang was sighted.

You should probably stick with unsupported insults as it looks more stupid than normal when you show that you don't know what you are talking about.

The theory between flight and sail does use the same theory but the bent surface aspect that is common to both flight and boomerangs is not used in sailing.

The bent sail and spinnaker are used downwind not using the air travel principal across a dissimilar length path just the following wind. Sailing up wind uses a tight flat sail. Up wind while using the same principal relies on a completely different mechanism, the movable angle of the sail not the shape of a fixed wing.

Setanta wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 6:34pm:

"Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man." -- Whoever said it... Intensive rote learning doesn't help a 7yo much but when his/her knowledge base grows, there is ingrained info ready to be accessed. We gave up on that I think back in the '70s and then there was the change in the early '80s to help advance females in the math/science type subjects, ultimately only achieving that goal by bringing boys grades down.

Frank wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 6:47pm:

They value education. Africans, Aborigines, Islanders who value education and apply themselves would be as 'smart'. East Asians, Indians or Europeans who do not value education are as thick as mince - look at John Smiff or Arrsie or greatdividedparrot or ravin' ducky.

I doubt all that.
I would say that intelligence and ability to learn difficult concepts
is derived directly from good genetics.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 6:54pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 6:34pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 5:24pm: Setanta wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 5:10pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:47pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:42pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: [quote author=Jim_Puddle-Duck link=1693738436/26#26 date=1693795287] No, The difference is that the white races moved and lived in the north for long enough that there was a pigment change. There is no argument for a biological superiority based on colour either way. The difference was driven by environment not biology or development. It is the same race developed at the same time. We were likely all darker in the beginning, I don't know what shade. Whiteness may be a darwinian effect. Ummm - you could probably argue that the Chinese are the furthest from the apes. They seem to do better at Universities on average compared with everyone else. No all the same How come the Chinese and Japanese are so smart? Ya canna Han a man a grander spanner than a drive to education. Their kids are not allowed to fail whereas ours are told it doesn't matter, you're just as good and anyway Math is a racist social construct. When I was at Uni the Chinese students were getting obviously much higher grades and that was despite their language handicap.   :-[/quote] "Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man." -- Whoever said it... Intensive rote learning doesn't help a 7yo much but when his/her knowledge base grows, there is ingrained info ready to be accessed. We gave up on that I think back in the '70s and then there was the change in the early '80s to help advance females in the math/science type subjects, ultimately only achieving that goal by bringing boys grades down. Just some old Greek guy called Aristotle who realised that the 1st 7 years of a child’s life represented a crucial formative stage of development. And he was right.

It is also culturally variable, it was likely true at a time when 10 year olds were considered to be adults.

Where we currently have people acting as adolescent till over 30 it may be a different story.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:26pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 11:55am: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:53am: AusGeoff wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:17am: The Australian aborigines invented the returning boomerang, or rotating wing, 50,000 years ago. Such a command of complex aerodynamics and physics certainly puts the numerous racists here on the back foot. What a load of utter garbage. My 6 year old can make awesome paper aeroplanes. Do you think he has a complex command of aerodynamics and physics? He is constructing what you showed him, 50,000 years ago he didn't even have paper. At that point your forbearers may have resembled a cockroach if this evolution theory is correct. It would make sense. They worked out shaving different surfaces on a stick caused lift. Do you really think that equals a complex command of aerodynamics and physics? The first step that everyone else has built on. You're an idiot of the first order. There's a direct line from kites and sails to aeronautical wings. Ever sailed? A sail is exactly the same as an aeronautical wing, in use for at least 5 thousand years before a boomerang was sighted. You should probably stick with unsupported insults as it looks more stupid than normal when you show that you don't know what you are talking about. The theory between flight and sail does use the same theory but the bent surface aspect that is common to both flight and boomerangs is not used in sailing. The bent sail and spinnaker are used downwind not using the air travel principal across a dissimilar length path just the following wind. Sailing up wind uses a tight flat sail. Up wind while using the same principal relies on a completely different mechanism, the movable angle of the sail not the shape of a fixed wing.

Of course it is. The whole principle is based on the high/low pressure generated. Ships/yachts are not blown but sucked(someone wanna cum in there?). It's not just applicable to aerodynamics but fluid dynamics also and fluid dynamic math is used to make sails.

Setanta wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 6:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 5:24pm: Setanta wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 5:10pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:47pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:42pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: [quote author=Jim_Puddle-Duck link=1693738436/26#26 date=1693795287] No, The difference is that the white races moved and lived in the north for long enough that there was a pigment change. There is no argument for a biological superiority based on colour either way. The difference was driven by environment not biology or development. It is the same race developed at the same time. We were likely all darker in the beginning, I don't know what shade. Whiteness may be a darwinian effect. Ummm - you could probably argue that the Chinese are the furthest from the apes. They seem to do better at Universities on average compared with everyone else. No all the same How come the Chinese and Japanese are so smart? Ya canna Han a man a grander spanner than a drive to education. Their kids are not allowed to fail whereas ours are told it doesn't matter, you're just as good and anyway Math is a racist social construct. When I was at Uni the Chinese students were getting obviously much higher grades and that was despite their language handicap.   :-[/quote] "Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man." -- Whoever said it... Intensive rote learning doesn't help a 7yo much but when his/her knowledge base grows, there is ingrained info ready to be accessed. We gave up on that I think back in the '70s and then there was the change in the early '80s to help advance females in the math/science type subjects, ultimately only achieving that goal by bringing boys grades down.

All humans have intrinsically the same potential, but something I've heard neuroscientists speak about briefly, and for obvious reasons it's not something they want to dwell on because it's political suicide... Intelligence is heritable we know that but in may not be in the genes, but in the way certain brain pathways are stronger among individuals and cultures and that can be passed down.

An example. Take a culture like abos who don't exactly have advanced mathematics, it may be it will just take multiple generations to grow that and pass it down to their kids. It doesn't mean any individual abo can't be good at maths, but as a group they lag behind.

Abos being hunter gatherers would have needed a good memory to source food locations, and also having no written language they'd remember oral traditions.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:26pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 11:55am: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:53am: AusGeoff wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:17am: The Australian aborigines invented the returning boomerang, or rotating wing, 50,000 years ago. Such a command of complex aerodynamics and physics certainly puts the numerous racists here on the back foot. What a load of utter garbage. My 6 year old can make awesome paper aeroplanes. Do you think he has a complex command of aerodynamics and physics? He is constructing what you showed him, 50,000 years ago he didn't even have paper. At that point your forbearers may have resembled a cockroach if this evolution theory is correct. It would make sense. They worked out shaving different surfaces on a stick caused lift. Do you really think that equals a complex command of aerodynamics and physics? The first step that everyone else has built on. You're an idiot of the first order. There's a direct line from kites and sails to aeronautical wings. Ever sailed? A sail is exactly the same as an aeronautical wing, in use for at least 5 thousand years before a boomerang was sighted. You should probably stick with unsupported insults as it looks more stupid than normal when you show that you don't know what you are talking about. The theory between flight and sail does use the same theory but the bent surface aspect that is common to both flight and boomerangs is not used in sailing. The bent sail and spinnaker are used downwind not using the air travel principal across a dissimilar length path just the following wind. Sailing up wind uses a tight flat sail. Up wind while using the same principal relies on a completely different mechanism, the movable angle of the sail not the shape of a fixed wing.

As Set said above, you get a total fail. If the boat is moving up wind, it's doing so using LIFT caused by the sail disrupting the air and causing high/low pressure areas in the same way an airplane wing does.

Just because it's moving on the water and not up like a plane is irrelevant.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 7:00pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 6:34pm: "Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man." -- Whoever said it... Intensive rote learning doesn't help a 7yo much but when his/her knowledge base grows, there is ingrained info ready to be accessed. We gave up on that I think back in the '70s and then there was the change in the early '80s to help advance females in the math/science type subjects, ultimately only achieving that goal by bringing boys grades down. Frank wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 6:47pm: They value education. Africans, Aborigines, Islanders who value education and apply themselves would be as 'smart'. East Asians, Indians or Europeans who do not value education are as thick as mince - look at John Smiff or Arrsie or greatdividedparrot or ravin' ducky. I doubt all that. I would say that intelligence and ability to learn difficult concepts is derived directly from good genetics.

Research has proven that BOTH nature AND nurture are involved.

And believe it or not ...nurture plays a far more decisive role.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Research has proven that BOTH nature AND nurture are involved. And believe it or not ...nurture plays a far more decisive role.

It would be nice if that was true but I think stupid people
are handicapped by their genetics.
They'll never be smart.
The only job they'll ever get is scraping off plates in a cafeteria or cleaning out toilets.
I feel so sorry for them -
imagine if it was me or you?

Setanta wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 7:04pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 6:58pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: You're an idiot of the first order. There's a direct line from kites and sails to aeronautical wings. Ever sailed? A sail is exactly the same as an aeronautical wing, in use for at least 5 thousand years before a boomerang was sighted. You should probably stick with unsupported insults as it looks more stupid than normal when you show that you don't know what you are talking about. The theory between flight and sail does use the same theory but the bent surface aspect that is common to both flight and boomerangs is not used in sailing. The bent sail and spinnaker are used downwind not using the air travel principal across a dissimilar length path just the following wind. Sailing up wind uses a tight flat sail. Up wind while using the same principal relies on a completely different mechanism, the movable angle of the sail not the shape of a fixed wing. Of course it is. The whole principle is based on the high/low pressure generated. Ships/yachts are not blown but sucked(someone wanna cum in there?). It's not just applicable to aerodynamics but fluid dynamics also and fluid dynamic math is used to make sails.

Except for the bit you got wrong you are correct. The part I left out is the action of the keel which is more similar to flight but not sure it was used in ancient sailing. Keels seem to go back about 800 years and may have been designed just for weight. Most of what you said is agreeing with what I had said.

The following wind does indeed push the boat the others do not.

Frank wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:47pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:42pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:41pm: No, The difference is that the white races moved and lived in the north for long enough that there was a pigment change. There is no argument for a biological superiority based on colour either way. The difference was driven by environment not biology or development. It is the same race developed at the same time. We were likely all darker in the beginning, I don't know what shade. Whiteness may be a darwinian effect. Ummm - you could probably argue that the Chinese are the furthest from the apes. They seem to do better at Universities on average compared with everyone else. No all the same How come the Chinese and Japanese are so smart? They value education. Africans, Aborigines, Islanders who value education and apply themselves would be as 'smart'. East Asians, Indians or Europeans who do not value education are as thick as mince - look at John Smiff or Arrsie or greatdividedparrot or ravin' ducky.

Dear Mr Furta - You should avoid talking about inteligence it is a game you cannot win.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 7:20pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 7:13pm: Research has proven that BOTH nature AND nurture are involved. And believe it or not ...nurture plays a far more decisive role. It would be nice if that was true but I think stupid people are handicapped by their genetics. They'll never be smart. The only job they'll ever get is scraping off plates in a cafeteria or cleaning out toilets. I feel so sorry for them - imagine if it was me or you?

I think it's more their culture that handicaps them.

Setanta wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 7:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 7:20pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 7:13pm: Research has proven that BOTH nature AND nurture are involved. And believe it or not ...nurture plays a far more decisive role. It would be nice if that was true but I think stupid people are handicapped by their genetics. They'll never be smart. The only job they'll ever get is scraping off plates in a cafeteria or cleaning out toilets. I feel so sorry for them - imagine if it was me or you? I think it's more their culture that handicaps them.

nah - it's breeding.

that's why you breed fast race horses or stupid sheep and cattle.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 7:20pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 7:04pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 6:58pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: You're an idiot of the first order. There's a direct line from kites and sails to aeronautical wings. Ever sailed? A sail is exactly the same as an aeronautical wing, in use for at least 5 thousand years before a boomerang was sighted. You should probably stick with unsupported insults as it looks more stupid than normal when you show that you don't know what you are talking about. The theory between flight and sail does use the same theory but the bent surface aspect that is common to both flight and boomerangs is not used in sailing. The bent sail and spinnaker are used downwind not using the air travel principal across a dissimilar length path just the following wind. Sailing up wind uses a tight flat sail. Up wind while using the same principal relies on a completely different mechanism, the movable angle of the sail not the shape of a fixed wing. Of course it is. The whole principle is based on the high/low pressure generated. Ships/yachts are not blown but sucked(someone wanna cum in there?). It's not just applicable to aerodynamics but fluid dynamics also and fluid dynamic math is used to make sails. Except for the bit you got wrong you are correct. The part I left out is the action of the keel which is more similar to flight but not sure it was used in ancient sailing. Keels seem to go back about 800 years and may have been designed just for weight.

Wrong again, the keel is to stop/slow/retard the boats sideways movement relative to the suck and where you want to go. It's more like the tail fin of a plane, not a wing.

Gordon wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 7:11pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 6:58pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:26pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 11:55am: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:53am: AusGeoff wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:17am: The Australian aborigines invented the returning boomerang, or rotating wing, 50,000 years ago. Such a command of complex aerodynamics and physics certainly puts the numerous racists here on the back foot. What a load of utter garbage. My 6 year old can make awesome paper aeroplanes. Do you think he has a complex command of aerodynamics and physics? He is constructing what you showed him, 50,000 years ago he didn't even have paper. At that point your forbearers may have resembled a cockroach if this evolution theory is correct. It would make sense. They worked out shaving different surfaces on a stick caused lift. Do you really think that equals a complex command of aerodynamics and physics? The first step that everyone else has built on. You're an idiot of the first order. There's a direct line from kites and sails to aeronautical wings. Ever sailed? A sail is exactly the same as an aeronautical wing, in use for at least 5 thousand years before a boomerang was sighted. You should probably stick with unsupported insults as it looks more stupid than normal when you show that you don't know what you are talking about. The theory between flight and sail does use the same theory but the bent surface aspect that is common to both flight and boomerangs is not used in sailing. The bent sail and spinnaker are used downwind not using the air travel principal across a dissimilar length path just the following wind. Sailing up wind uses a tight flat sail. Up wind while using the same principal relies on a completely different mechanism, the movable angle of the sail not the shape of a fixed wing. As Set said above, you get a total fail. If the boat is moving up wind, it's doing so using LIFT caused by the sail disrupting the air and causing high/low pressure areas in the same way an airplane wing does. Just because it's moving on the water and not up like a plane is irrelevant.

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LIFT caused by the sail disrupting the air and causing high/low pressure areas in the same way an airplane wing does.

The lift is indeed the same as a wing but the mechanism is different. It does not have a fixed wing it uses the movable angle of the sail to create the lift, it does not use air traveling slower over a bent surface to create the uplift or side lift it uses the leading edge and protected shadow of the sail to create side lift - low pressure or lift. The effect is the same but the mechanics are different.

out of africa has been old news for a while now

the current up to date thinking supports the notion of multi-regional emergence

there is a common ancestor with africans there is actually no population group alive today that has that ancestry. even the bushmen of southern africa are differentiated – it is even possible that our most common ancestor today migrated back into africa from the middle east

the population groups that did emerge out of africa then went on to conquer and inter-breed with other human and related population groups that had already spread around the world, such as neanderthals, north and south denvosians, while in africa it is is possible sub-saharan africans intermingled with at least two other now extinct and unknown population groups

Gordon wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 4:24pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:10pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 3:59pm: freediver wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 3:31pm: Quote: A sail is exactly the same as an aeronautical wing, in use for at least 5 thousand years before a boomerang was sighted. The one that acts as a wing is a fairly recent invention I think. Are you thinking of rigid sails? Even a square rig can go up wind. Boats have been going upwind for a few thousand years. If a boat can sail upwind its using lift to do so. I'm pretty sure you can do that with a flat piece of plywood on roller skates. You don't need to invoke an aeronautical wing to explain is. If a flat piece of plywood on roller skates can go up wind, it's acting is the same way as an aeronautical wing  :)

No it isn't. It's just vector addition. Only aborigines could solve ordinary differential equations 5000 years ago.


Frank wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:47pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 4:42pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:41pm: No, The difference is that the white races moved and lived in the north for long enough that there was a pigment change. There is no argument for a biological superiority based on colour either way. The difference was driven by environment not biology or development. It is the same race developed at the same time. We were likely all darker in the beginning, I don't know what shade. Whiteness may be a darwinian effect. Ummm - you could probably argue that the Chinese are the furthest from the apes. They seem to do better at Universities on average compared with everyone else. No all the same How come the Chinese and Japanese are so smart? They value education. Africans, Aborigines, Islanders who value education and apply themselves would be as 'smart'. East Asians, Indians or Europeans who do not value education are as thick as mince - look at John Smiff or Arrsie or greatdividedparrot or ravin' ducky.

The Chinese education system is still about 100 years behind most western countries. All they can do is rote learning and copying western ideas. Until the CCP starts to vale independent thought, it's schools won't either. The Japanese are entirely different.

Setanta wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 7:27pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 7:20pm: Setanta wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 7:04pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 6:58pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: You're an idiot of the first order. There's a direct line from kites and sails to aeronautical wings. Ever sailed? A sail is exactly the same as an aeronautical wing, in use for at least 5 thousand years before a boomerang was sighted. You should probably stick with unsupported insults as it looks more stupid than normal when you show that you don't know what you are talking about. The theory between flight and sail does use the same theory but the bent surface aspect that is common to both flight and boomerangs is not used in sailing. The bent sail and spinnaker are used downwind not using the air travel principal across a dissimilar length path just the following wind. Sailing up wind uses a tight flat sail. Up wind while using the same principal relies on a completely different mechanism, the movable angle of the sail not the shape of a fixed wing. Of course it is. The whole principle is based on the high/low pressure generated. Ships/yachts are not blown but sucked(someone wanna cum in there?). It's not just applicable to aerodynamics but fluid dynamics also and fluid dynamic math is used to make sails. Except for the bit you got wrong you are correct. The part I left out is the action of the keel which is more similar to flight but not sure it was used in ancient sailing. Keels seem to go back about 800 years and may have been designed just for weight. Wrong again, the keel is to stop/slow/retard the boats sideways movement relative to the suck and where you want to go. It's more like the tail fin of a plane, not a wing.

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stop/slow/retard the boats sideways movement relative to the suck

Yes. If you consider the keel to be a downward extension of the sail but which is fixed and solid like a wing. You have water going across the keel much like air across the sail. The stabilizing effect comes from the cross current forming a stabilizing pull action away from the excess course of the wind generated pull action. We are not really a long way away in what we are saying. I don't have a complete understanding here either.

In short a wind action skewing the boat right will generate a water current from the right at the keel influencing the boat to the left. Balancing the boats direction.

I would consider the rudder more like the tail fin.

JC Denton wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 7:33pm:

the current up to date thinking supports the notion of multi-regional emergence

A 8.7-million-year-old skull outbids Neanderthal, Denisovian, Hobbits, San, boomerangs, Chinese and academics.

chimera wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 7:45pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 7:33pm: the current up to date thinking supports the notion of multi-regional emergence A 8.7-million-year-old skull outbids Neanderthal, Denisovian, Hobbits, San, boomerangs, Chinese and academics.

A 8.7-million-year-old monkey skull that may or may not be in our evolution path.

We always knew that monkeys came first so there is nothing here we didn't already know except that this monkey was in europe at some time.

It may be an important link but it also may not. We don't know yet.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 7:44pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 7:27pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 7:20pm: Setanta wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 7:04pm: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 6:58pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 12:46pm: You're an idiot of the first order. There's a direct line from kites and sails to aeronautical wings. Ever sailed? A sail is exactly the same as an aeronautical wing, in use for at least 5 thousand years before a boomerang was sighted. You should probably stick with unsupported insults as it looks more stupid than normal when you show that you don't know what you are talking about. The theory between flight and sail does use the same theory but the bent surface aspect that is common to both flight and boomerangs is not used in sailing. The bent sail and spinnaker are used downwind not using the air travel principal across a dissimilar length path just the following wind. Sailing up wind uses a tight flat sail. Up wind while using the same principal relies on a completely different mechanism, the movable angle of the sail not the shape of a fixed wing. Of course it is. The whole principle is based on the high/low pressure generated. Ships/yachts are not blown but sucked(someone wanna cum in there?). It's not just applicable to aerodynamics but fluid dynamics also and fluid dynamic math is used to make sails. Except for the bit you got wrong you are correct. The part I left out is the action of the keel which is more similar to flight but not sure it was used in ancient sailing. Keels seem to go back about 800 years and may have been designed just for weight. Wrong again, the keel is to stop/slow/retard the boats sideways movement relative to the suck and where you want to go. It's more like the tail fin of a plane, not a wing. Quote: stop/slow/retard the boats sideways movement relative to the suck Yes. If you consider the keel to be a downward extension of the sail but which is fixed and solid like a wing. You have water going across the keel much like air across the sail. The stabilizing effect comes from the cross current forming a stabilizing pull action away from the excess course of the wind generated pull action.

The keel is more like a friction enhancer, like your rubber car tyres or the skegs on a surfboard, to prevent sideways movement. You car tyres do not need lift. That some measure of fluid dynamics may be at play, it's not why they work like they do.

freediver wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 7:37pm:

No it isn't. It's just vector addition. Only aborigines could solve ordinary differential equations 5000 years ago.

Not so sure that humour is your thing.

The cave drawings only show basic algebra.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 7:53pm:

A 8.7-million-year-old monkey skull that may or may not be in our evolution path.

Let's hope she wasn't a pommy homonim. An afro ape of Middle Eastern hairstyle is cultural but a Turkish pom would sound terrible.

Gordon wrote on Sep 4^th, 2023 at 11:55am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:53am: AusGeoff wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:17am: The Australian aborigines invented the returning boomerang, or rotating wing, 50,000 years ago. Such a command of complex aerodynamics and physics certainly puts the numerous racists here on the back foot. What a load of utter garbage. My 6 year old can make awesome paper aeroplanes. Do you think he has a complex command of aerodynamics and physics? He is constructing what you showed him, 50,000 years ago he didn't even have paper. At that point your forebears may have resembled a cockroach if this evolution theory is correct. It would make sense. They worked out shaving different surfaces on a stick caused lift. Do you really think that equals a complex command of aerodynamics and physics?

And true to form, and objectionably offensive, one
of our resident and rabid racists couldn't resist posting
yet another nonsensical comment denigrating Aborigines.

Gordon must spend a good part of his day trawling
these threads for the slightest trigger that sets him
off on more racist rants.  What a sad, lonely life he
must lead.

He—ludicrously!—claims his son can make a paper
plane that's as (apparently) aerodynamically advanced
as a boomerang.  Which of course it's absolutely not.

Hand your son a sheet of 20mm plywood and ask him to
craft a working boomerang using only a couple of pieces
of sharpened stone.

Give it up Gordon—you're just making a bigger fool
of yourself with every comment here.   Tsk, tsk.

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 4:23am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 11:55am: Dnarever wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:53am: AusGeoff wrote on Sep 4th, 2023 at 9:17am: The Australian aborigines invented the returning boomerang, or rotating wing, 50,000 years ago. Such a command of complex aerodynamics and physics certainly puts the numerous racists here on the back foot. What a load of utter garbage. My 6 year old can make awesome paper aeroplanes. Do you think he has a complex command of aerodynamics and physics? He is constructing what you showed him, 50,000 years ago he didn't even have paper. At that point your forebears may have resembled a cockroach if this evolution theory is correct. It would make sense. They worked out shaving different surfaces on a stick caused lift. Do you really think that equals a complex command of aerodynamics and physics? And true to form, and objectionably offensive, one of our resident and rabid racists couldn't resist posting yet another nonsensical comment denigrating Aborigines. Gordon must spend a good part of his day trawling these threads for the slightest trigger that sets him off on more racist rants.  What a sad, lonely life he must lead. He—ludicrously!—claims his son can make a paper plane that's as (apparently) aerodynamically advanced as a boomerang.  Which of course it's absolutely not. Hand your son a sheet of 20mm plywood and ask him to craft a working boomerang using only a couple of pieces of sharpened stone. Give it up Gordon—you're just making a bigger fool of yourself with every comment here.   Tsk, tsk.

every one of your posts consists of you telling everyone how offended u are by something

'Before splitting from modern humans, Neanderthal/Denisovans (or "Neandersovans") migrating out of Africa into Europe apparently interbred with an unidentified "superarchaic" human species who were already present there; these superarchaics were the descendants of a very early migration out of Africa around 1.9 mya.'
Everyone still came out of Africa. It seems the ultimate origin was in the Turkey region.

Where Geoff messed up badly is he couldn't stop at, yeah cool invention well done boongs, but he had to go all the way to command of complex aerodynamics and
physics .

It's innovation thru cause and effect.

Did humans have command of microbiology because they knew cooking food presents sickness?

Did humans who stripped the bark off willow trees understand the pharmacologically of why it worked as an analgesic?

'Alongside the skull in the same fossil layer, experts found evidence of giraffes, warthogs, rhinos, diverse antelopes, zebras, elephants, porcupines, hyenas, and lion-like carnivores. All animals commonly associated with African grasslands and dry forests today'.
It seems that Africa in those days included Turkey. There were lions in Europe and Afro England.

Gordon wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 7:35am:

Where Geoff messed up badly is he couldn't stop at, yeah cool invention well done boongs, but he had to go all the way to command of complex aerodynamics and physics . It's innovation thru cause and effect. Did humans have command of microbiology because they knew cooking food presents sickness? Did humans who stripped the bark off willow trees understand the pharmacologically of why it worked as an analgesic?

It's not an invention but a chance discovery. They were throwing sticks at the enemy or prey.
Some stocks had unusual flight pattern. The not fit for purpose ones came back.
No understanding of aerodynamics is involved.
Tres amusant.

Gordon wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 7:35am:

Where Geoff messed up badly is he couldn't stop at, yeah cool invention well done boongs, but he had to go all the way to command of complex aerodynamics and physics . It's innovation thru cause and effect...

LOL... that's exactly what "invention" is based on.
And the aborigines invented the boomerang 50,000
years ago, simply because of observation, and the
application of those observations.  That's precisely
how any/all science proceeds to a working result.

At any rate, it took the Wright brothers until 1903
to produce the world's first successful flights of a
heavier-than-air flying machine.  And yes;  the
boomerang is technically a heavier-then-air flying
machine, invented by humans. [New World Encyclopedia]

Frank wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 8:16am:

It's not an invention but a chance discovery...

And once again your innate racism shows Frank.
Belittling anything the aborigines have ever done,
even to the extent of dismissing their development
of the boomerang as "chance".  Not so.

Many relevant and well known scientific theories were
developed by chance, at some degree, throughout history...

Newton's apple falling perpendicular to the ground.

Archimedes bath full of water overflowing.

Nobel's blasting jelly.

Pasteur's accidental creation of attenuated bacteria.

Abbot Laboratories' unplanned discovery of cyclamate's sweetness.

—All as a result of chance, just like the boomerang.

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 9:47am:

Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:16am: It's not an invention but a chance discovery... And once again your innate racism shows Frank. Belittling anything the aborigines have ever done, even to the extent of dismissing their development of the boomerang as "chance".  Not so. Many relevant and well known scientific theories were developed by chance, at some degree, throughout history... Newton's apple falling perpendicular to the ground. Archimedes bath full of water overflowing. Nobel's blasting jelly. Pasteur's accidental creation of attenuated bacteria. Abbot Laboratories' unplanned discovery of cyclamate's sweetness. —All as a result of chance, just like the boomerang.

So you agree, a chance discovery.
But if I say it, it is innate racism, if you say it, if is a sparkling display of your wide learning, from Newton to artificial sweeteners.

Frank wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 8:16am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 7:35am: Where Geoff messed up badly is he couldn't stop at, yeah cool invention well done boongs, but he had to go all the way to command of complex aerodynamics and physics . It's innovation thru cause and effect. Did humans have command of microbiology because they knew cooking food presents sickness? Did humans who stripped the bark off willow trees understand the pharmacologically of why it worked as an analgesic? It's not an invention but a chance discovery. They were throwing sticks at the enemy or prey. Some stocks had unusual flight pattern. The not fit for purpose ones came back. No understanding of aerodynamics is involved. Tres amusant.

Like the wheel or Fire ?

There is a reason that a mongoose didn't invent the wheel ?

Building an aerodynamic device in that time period is big regardless of the limitations. They also had fire tools weapons built shelters and other stuff.

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 9:18am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 7:35am: Where Geoff messed up badly is he couldn't stop at, yeah cool invention well done boongs, but he had to go all the way to command of complex aerodynamics and physics . It's innovation thru cause and effect... LOL... that's exactly what "invention" is based on. And the aborigines invented the boomerang 50,000 years ago, simply because of observation, and the application of those observations.  That's precisely how any/all science proceeds to a working result. At any rate, it took the Wright brothers until 1903 to produce the world's first successful flights of a heavier-than-air flying machine.  And yes;  the boomerang is technically a heavier-then-air flying machine, invented by humans. [New World Encyclopedia]

It has no 'application', it's a toy. It proceeded nowhere, like all other things Aboriginal.
They are profoundly "anti proceeding' people. No change is a fundamental, core principle of Aboriginality. We call it stagnation, they call it Law.

There is an enormous difference between the machine the Wrighf Brothers devised in 1903 and the international space station. There is absolutely no difference between a boomerang of 50,000 BC and yesterday.

Frank wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 10:50am:

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 6th, 2023 at 9:18am: Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 7:35am: Where Geoff messed up badly is he couldn't stop at, yeah cool invention well done boongs, but he had to go all the way to command of complex aerodynamics and physics . It's innovation thru cause and effect... LOL... that's exactly what "invention" is based on. And the aborigine invented the boomerang 50,000 years ago, simply because of observation, and the application of those observations.  That's precisely how any/all science proceeds to a working result. At any rate, it took the Wright brothers until 1903 to produce the world's first successful flights of a heavier-than-air flying machine.  And yes;  the boomerang is technically a heavier-then-air flying machine, invented by humans. [New World Encyclopedia] It has no 'application', it's a toy. It proceeded nowhere, like all other things Aboriginal. They are profoundly "anti proceeding' people. No change is a fundamental, core principle of Aboriginality. We call it stagnation, they call it Law. There is an enormous difference between the machine the Wrighf Brothers devised in 1903 and the international space station. There is absolutely no difference between a boomerang of 50,000 BC and yesterday.

Hate to be a party pooper but it’s well documented that the Wright Brothers were frauds and did not manage the first flight, despite what America claims.
They even tried to patent the idea to stop any rival development.

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 6:13pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 6th, 2023 at 10:50am: AusGeoff wrote on Sep 6th, 2023 at 9:18am: Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 7:35am: Where Geoff messed up badly is he couldn't stop at, yeah cool invention well done boongs, but he had to go all the way to command of complex aerodynamics and physics . It's innovation thru cause and effect... LOL... that's exactly what "invention" is based on. And the aborigine invented the boomerang 50,000 years ago, simply because of observation, and the application of those observations.  That's precisely how any/all science proceeds to a working result. At any rate, it took the Wright brothers until 1903 to produce the world's first successful flights of a heavier-than-air flying machine.  And yes;  the boomerang is technically a heavier-then-air flying machine, invented by humans. [New World Encyclopedia] It has no 'application', it's a toy. It proceeded nowhere, like all other things Aboriginal. They are profoundly "anti proceeding' people. No change is a fundamental, core principle of Aboriginality. We call it stagnation, they call it Law. There is an enormous difference between the machine the Wrighf Brothers devised in 1903 and the international space station. There is absolutely no difference between a boomerang of 50,000 BC and yesterday. Hate to be a party pooper but it’s well documented that the Wright Brothers were frauds and did not manage the first flight, despite what America claims. They even tried to patent the idea to stop any rival development.

Hate to be a piss on your parade party pooper but that matters not to his point. Whether it was the Wright bros were first or not by a day or two, is irrelevant. It would not be relevant if they didn't fly at all, winged flight started that year.

Frank wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 10:46am:

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 6th, 2023 at 9:47am: Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:16am: It's not an invention but a chance discovery... And once again your innate racism shows Frank. Belittling anything the aborigines have ever done, even to the extent of dismissing their development of the boomerang as "chance".  Not so. Many relevant and well known scientific theories were developed by chance, at some degree, throughout history... Newton's apple falling perpendicular to the ground. Archimedes bath full of water overflowing. Nobel's blasting jelly. Pasteur's accidental creation of attenuated bacteria. Abbot Laboratories' unplanned discovery of cyclamate's sweetness. —All as a result of chance, just like the boomerang. So you agree, a chance discovery. But if I say it, it is innate racism, if you say it, if is a sparkling display of your wide learning, from Newton to artificial sweeteners.

Oh dear... this is like responding to a child LOL.

And it's more than obvious you're a racist.  The mere
fact that you belittle the aborigine's further development
of the boomerang from a chance discovery clearly shows that.

Just as those other scientists I listed further developed
their chance discoveries.

That you say, "It has no 'application', it's a toy. It proceeded
nowhere, like all other things Aboriginal", is a solid indicator
of your racism.

If I gave you a lump of driftwood, and a couple of sharpened
stones, could you fashion a returning boomerang? 

       https://i.postimg.cc/yYvnxyzy/Screenshot-2023-09-07-at-10-34-57-9353482004310-jpg-JPEG-Image-500-500-pixels.png


Of course not—you wouldn't have a clue.

But then you denigrate the Aboriginals who can.

The thread title is dishonest. But that's about what i've come to expect from Gordy.

White people didn't evolve from "darkies" (Jesus) ... we are on the same rung of the evolutionary ladder.

Gordy meant to say "adapted" ... but he didn't know how.

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 10:40am:

Frank wrote on Sep 6th, 2023 at 10:46am: AusGeoff wrote on Sep 6th, 2023 at 9:47am: Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:16am: It's not an invention but a chance discovery... And once again your innate racism shows Frank. Belittling anything the aborigines have ever done, even to the extent of dismissing their development of the boomerang as "chance".  Not so. Many relevant and well known scientific theories were developed by chance, at some degree, throughout history... Newton's apple falling perpendicular to the ground. Archimedes bath full of water overflowing. Nobel's blasting jelly. Pasteur's accidental creation of attenuated bacteria. Abbot Laboratories' unplanned discovery of cyclamate's sweetness. —All as a result of chance, just like the boomerang. So you agree, a chance discovery. But if I say it, it is innate racism, if you say it, if is a sparkling display of your wide learning, from Newton to artificial sweeteners. Oh dear... this is like responding to a child LOL. And it's more than obvious you're a racist.  The mere fact that you belittle the aborigine's further development of the boomerang from a chance discovery clearly shows that. Just as those other scientists I listed further developed their chance discoveries. That you say, "It has no 'application', it's a toy. It proceeded nowhere, like all other things Aboriginal", is a solid indicator of your racism. If I gave you a lump of driftwood, and a couple of sharpened stones, could you fashion a returning boomerang?         https://i.postimg.cc/yYvnxyzy/Screenshot-2023-09-07-at-10-34-57-9353482004310-jpg-JPEG-Image-500-500-pixels.png Of course not—you wouldn't have a clue. But then you denigrate the Aboriginals who can.

A boomerang is a throwing stick, used for hunting, fishing and war. It is a stick used as weapon.
The vast majority of boomerangs are of the non-returning variety.  The oldest known boomerang-like throwing stick, fashioned from mammoth tusk 23,000 years ago, was found in Poland.

Is it a denigration to say that a culture like the Aborigines has stagnated for tens of thousands of years? For cultures that haven't stayed unchanged all that time, it may well be a denigration. It identifies a key characteristic of Aboriginal culture: extreme conservatism. Culturally stagnant periods in our own Western cultural history are also denigrated as backward or oppressive or suffocating. We designate our own most stagnant period as the Dark Ages.

The really interesting question is: why did Aborigines remain essentially stagnant Stone Age people? And a supplementary question is: do the reasons for such spectacularly static, unchanging culture play an ongoing part in Aboriginal lives in remote parts of Australia that are least touched by other cultural influences?

These are questions similar to the ones that can be asked about European cultural dynamism and periods of stagnation, or Chinese or Japanese stagnation followed by dynamism as a result of European influence.

Interesting discussion:
https://m.soundcloud.com/experience_anu/in-conversation-with-peter-sutton-and-keryn-walshe?si=b6db14c8e1994d2f84a4b3ba908d03ca&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 10:54am:

the evolutionary ladder.

Our hominin in Turkey must have been happy and gay.

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 11:09am:

The oldest known boomerang-like throwing stick, fashioned from mammoth tusk 23,000 years ago, was found in Poland.

so NOT a boomerang then  :D :D :D

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 10:54am:

The thread title is dishonest. But that's about what i've come to expect from Gordy. White people didn't evolve from "darkies" (Jesus) ... we are on the same rung of the evolutionary ladder. Gordy meant to say "adapted" ... but he didn't know how.

I just thought the first four words of Gordy’s title were honest.

the funniest thing in all this is that turdie actually thinks he has evolved  :D :D

John Smith wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 6:30pm:

the funniest thing in all this is that turdie actually thinks he has evolved  :D :D

LoL the dribbling mong who didn't finish school just dribbled.

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 6:25pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:54am: The thread title is dishonest. But that's about what i've come to expect from Gordy. White people didn't evolve from "darkies" (Jesus) ... we are on the same rung of the evolutionary ladder. Gordy meant to say "adapted" ... but he didn't know how. I just thought the first four words of Gordy’s title were honest.

Is it true you can't pay your Web hosting because you've already spent your inheritance?

Coincidence?

Aborigines went to Australia and got trapped/isolated by Seas.
Negroes went to Africa and got trapped/isolated by Deserts.

...just saying. Both Aborigines and Negroid Africans are the most 'isolated' gene groups in the world.

Gordon wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 6:37pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 6:25pm: mothra wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:54am: The thread title is dishonest. But that's about what i've come to expect from Gordy. White people didn't evolve from "darkies" (Jesus) ... we are on the same rung of the evolutionary ladder. Gordy meant to say "adapted" ... but he didn't know how. I just thought the first four words of Gordy’s title were honest. Is it true you can't pay your Web hosting because you've already spent your inheritance?

Dumbarse Drunk has wasted whatever money he had along with the money he owes a certain OzPol forum member AS WELL AS the money he owes his forum’s Host (who’s now taken the dithering dhead offline).

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 11:09am:

The oldest known boomerang-like throwing stick, fashioned from mammoth tusk 23,000 years ago, was found in Poland.

Aha! That’s it then. The Polish are the real Aborigines. The rest (like our very own tosspot Five Foot Frodo) are merely fake ones. 😂🤣😆

Gordon wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 6:37pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 6:25pm: mothra wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:54am: The thread title is dishonest. But that's about what i've come to expect from Gordy. White people didn't evolve from "darkies" (Jesus) ... we are on the same rung of the evolutionary ladder. Gordy meant to say "adapted" ... but he didn't know how. I just thought the first four words of Gordy’s title were honest. Is it true you can't pay your Web hosting because you've already spent your inheritance?

Poor Gordy, resorting to kindergarten insults.

Jasin wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 7:52pm:

Coincidence? Aborigines went to Australia and got trapped/isolated by Seas. Negroes went to Africa and got trapped/isolated by Deserts. ...just saying. Both Aborigines and Negroid Africans are the most 'isolated' gene groups in the world.

The race started from Africa and spread from there.

Gordon wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 6:37pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 6:25pm: mothra wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:54am: The thread title is dishonest. But that's about what i've come to expect from Gordy. White people didn't evolve from "darkies" (Jesus) ... we are on the same rung of the evolutionary ladder. Gordy meant to say "adapted" ... but he didn't know how. I just thought the first four words of Gordy’s title were honest. Is it true you can't pay your Web hosting because you've already spent your inheritance?

Dumbarse Drunk has wasted whatever money he had along with the money he owes a certain OzPol forum member AS WELL AS the money he owes his forum’s Host (who’s now taken the dithering dhead offline).

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 11:09am:

The oldest known boomerang-like throwing stick, fashioned from mammoth tusk 23,000 years ago, was found in Poland.

Aha! That’s it then. The Polish are the real Aborigines. The rest (like our very own tosspot Five Foot Frodo) are merely fake ones. 😂🤣😆

John Smith wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 5:46pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 11:09am: The oldest known boomerang-like throwing stick, fashioned from mammoth tusk 23,000 years ago, was found in Poland. so NOT a boomerang then  :D :D :D

Oh look, John Smith, making up utter crap again.

https://www.nature.com/articles/329436a0

Excavations in a cave in the Oblazowa Rock in south Poland revealed an Upper Palaeolithic cultural level with an abundance of lithic and organic artefacts as well as palaeozoological material. This level yielded a fragment of mammoth tusk showing the characteristic traits of a complete boomerang. This is the earliest certain find of this type of weapon in the world.

Well it seems the Big Bang Theory on the birth of the universe is turning out to be a false.
So why not the 'out of africa' as well?

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 8:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 5:46pm: Frank wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 11:09am: The oldest known boomerang-like throwing stick, fashioned from mammoth tusk 23,000 years ago, was found in Poland. so NOT a boomerang then  :D :D :D Oh look, John Smith, making up utter crap again. https://www.nature.com/articles/329436a0 Excavations in a cave in the Oblazowa Rock in south Poland revealed an Upper Palaeolithic cultural level with an abundance of lithic and organic artefacts as well as palaeozoological material. This level yielded a fragment of mammoth tusk showing the characteristic traits of a complete boomerang. This is the earliest certain find of this type of weapon in the world.

Thanks for proving my point fd.

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 8:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 5:46pm: Frank wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 11:09am: The oldest known boomerang-like throwing stick, fashioned from mammoth tusk 23,000 years ago, was found in Poland. so NOT a boomerang then  :D :D :D Oh look, John Smith, making up utter crap again. https://www.nature.com/articles/329436a0 Excavations in a cave in the Oblazowa Rock in south Poland revealed an Upper Palaeolithic cultural level with an abundance of lithic and organic artefacts as well as palaeozoological material. This level yielded a fragment of mammoth tusk showing the characteristic traits of a complete boomerang. This is the earliest certain find of this type of weapon in the world.

Which means Five Foot Frodo also hasn’t a clue even about his own Abo culture. At least he’s consistent....consistently ignorant, clueless and dumb.

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 9:47am:

Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:16am: It's not an invention but a chance discovery... And once again your innate racism shows Frank. Belittling anything the aborigines have ever done,

To quote the poet, "What have the Romans Aborigines ever done for us?"

"... the tear duct?"

"Then there's the whine... were would we be without the whine, herh, herh?"

".... and the spirits... oh, yeah..."

"Um - lawlessness and disorder?  Remember when the streets used to be safe in their own homes during the day!"

"There's that... what about the national parks?  Now nobody gets blisters walking through those..."

"Division?  Better than being united with the Romans in Canberra.. Big Tony's mob..."

"Awright - I'll give you those - but apart from the tear duct, the whine, the spirits, lawlessness and disorder, national park closures, and division across the country.... what else have the Aborigines ever done for us??"

"Gave us Ape-man Goodes to show us what we're descended from - or they are anyway?  And the Langton comedy hour!  Let's not forget that!"

"Awright, BUT - what have they really done for us, I ask you?"

" Inflated woman killing figures.  Made sure we needed prisons?"

"Prisons!  Aw, shaddup!"