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Title: Aboriginal corruption Post by Frank on Aug 30th, 2023 at 9:51am
The two women, along with chief financial officer Madhur Evans, are at the centre of serious allegations of corruption, bullying, fraud and deception within NAAJA, the country’s largest and best-resourced Indigenous legal organisation.
Some allegations include: • Ms Atkins used company funds to acquire clothes, artworks, flights and cars – including a $129,000 Range Rover; • Ms Evans secretly paid $20,000 directly into Ms Rosas’s bank account, in breach of the agency’s funding agreement; • Ms Rosas requested her pay be given to her on a credit card so as not to alert the tax office and threaten her Centrelink pension; • The NAAJA board was paid “huge” amounts of money, despite claims the attorney-general approved their pay for only eight days a year; • Ms Rosas appointed her nephew as acting CEO, and a friend as head of HR – a position that was not publicly advertised; • Ms Rosas told employees Ms Atkins was using cocaine; • Ms Evans left her mobile phone in offices to record unsuspecting colleagues and logged on to Ms Atkins’s computer after hours without permission. When a cleaner saw Ms Evans on the computer, the cleaner was fired; • Ms Evans is paid a phone allowance but also has a NAAJA-paid mobile. Each woman denies the allegations made against her. The NT Independent Commission Against Corruption is investigating the allegations, and both state and the federal attorneys-general are considering intervening to prevent the organisation, which receives about $20m in taxpayer funds every year, from going under. Meanwhile, Ms Atkins has sued the agency for unfair dismissal, in a matter that will be heard at trial in the Federal Court. Sources believe NAAJA will spend up to $1m on the trial, after it recruited global firm King & Wood Mallesons to represent them. NAAJA is mainly funded by the federal government, and conducts the lion’s share of Indigenous legal cases in the NT, where crime has increased by double digits in the past year. The organisation employs 200 workers in Darwin, Palmerston, Katherine, Alice Springs and Tennant Creek. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/legal-affairs/ill-sue-you-for-millions-inside-the-corruption-scandal-plaguing-the-north-australian-aboriginal-justice-agency/news-story/f635d14c579e143eba8e4c710dc844b2 And these are just the lawyers. Put them into the constitution permanently. Yeah, right. |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Frank on Aug 30th, 2023 at 9:53am
During Ms Atkins’s suspension, the NAAJA board engaged external auditors BDO to conduct an “independent special audit” into her conduct as CEO.
“More specifically, BDO was engaged to review, analyse and report back to the NAAJA board on any irregular or inappropriate actions within specified areas of the CEO’s role, responsibilities and accountabilities in corporate governance of the organisation over the period January 2017 to January 2023,” Ms Rosas’s affidavit reads. The findings of the BDO report were as follow: • Ms Atkins personally purchased nine vehicles over a four-year period by way of a “novated lease” arrangement that was not approved by the board. The cars included two Range Rover Sports ($88,253 and $129,118), two Jeeps ($22,500 and $8736) and VW Amarok ($28,700); • Ms Atkins attempted to cash out her annual leave entitlements to pay NAAJA back the money she had used for the cars. She cashed out more annual leave then she was entitled to; • Ms Atkins charged personal expenses to her corporate card, including four iPads and a $1320 artwork; • Ms Atkins failed to reimburse NAAJA for personal expenses charged to her credit card; • Instances where the approver signature on credit card reconciliation did not match any of the approved approver signatures; • At least 37 months of credit card reconciliations were not approved by the board as required. Ms Atkins denies the allegations made against her in the BDO report. Ms Atkins’s employment was terminated after the tabling of the report. Police were notified of the allegations, and Ms Rosas has since met three times with representatives from Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus’s office and the office of NT Attorney-General Chansey Paech, who has also been referred to the NT ICAC for allegedly failing to declare a potential conflict of interest with the organisation servicing Alice Springs town camps. A temporary injunction filed as part of Ms Atkins’s Federal Court unfair dismissal claim means her employment has not yet been terminated, pending resolution of the case. Ms Atkins says since her employment was suspended, she has been continually harassed, including “current workers being advised she was on cocaine”. In March this year, Ms Atkins wrote to Namatjira MP William Yan detailing claims of “improper conduct, abuse of power and corruption by the NAAJA chairperson, board and CFO”. The email, obtained by The Australian, included dozens of allegations against Ms Evans and Ms Rosas, and urged Mr Yan to employ external investigators to look into her claim. Mr Yan forwarded her email to the Acting NAAJA CEO. Ms Atkins alleged the NAAJA board made “huge” payments to board directors instead of the permitted $300 a day, without consulting the Attorney-General’s office as required. She also accused Ms Evans of being complicit in Ms Rosas’s scheme to avoid tax office scrutiny, and protect her Centrelink pension. “NAAJA has approval to pay 8 days per year per director sitting fees,” the emails says. “At the NAAJA board meeting on 25 & 26 August, 2022, the NAAJA board agreed to pay the chairperson an annual salary of $15,000 per year. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/legal-affairs/ill-sue-you-for-millions-inside-the-corruption-scandal-plaguing-the-north-australian-aboriginal-justice-agency/news-story/f635d14c579e143eba8e4c710dc844b2 |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Frank on Aug 30th, 2023 at 9:55am
Ms Atkins alleged the NAAJA board made “huge” payments to board directors instead of the permitted $300 a day, without consulting the Attorney-General’s office as required. She also accused Ms Evans of being complicit in Ms Rosas’s scheme to avoid tax office scrutiny, and protect her Centrelink pension.
“NAAJA has approval to pay 8 days per year per director sitting fees,” the emails says. “At the NAAJA board meeting on 25 & 26 August, 2022, the NAAJA board agreed to pay the chairperson an annual salary of $15,000 per year. “NAAJA has never paid an annual salary to any NAAJA chairperson or NAAJA director. At the NAAJA board meeting on 10th and 11th November, 2022, the NAAJA board agreed to increase the chairperson annual salary to $20,000 per year plus sitting fees. “The chairperson is on a Centrelink pension and was meeting with the CEO after the 25th & 26th NAAJA board meeting requesting this payment be made without the ATO being aware so it did not impact her pension. The chairperson requested I give her a credit card to the value of $15,000 so Centrelink would not find out about the NAAJA fee. The CEO informed the chairperson we couldn’t and that it would need to be taxed. “This annual salary for the chairperson has not been approved by the funding bodies. The CFO paid $20,000 into the chairperson bank account in December 2022 tax-free. The NAAJA board conduct constitutions (sic) reasonable ground for dismissal for inappropriately appointing the chair under a salaried position, failure to manage an actual conflict of interest, breach of public trust and illegal performance of official functions.” Ms Rosas has denied allegations made in the email. The NAAJA has denied allegations that Ms Evans and Ms Rosas engaged in deceptive conduct. As part of her latest affidavit to the court, Ms Atkins has included reference letters from NT Supreme Court judge Jenny Block, NT Chief Justice Michael Grant and barrister Phillip Boulten SC. The matter is scheduled for trial from October 23. |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by mothra on Aug 30th, 2023 at 9:58am
Are you suddenly surprised at the siphoning off of money designated for grass roots?
We've been telling you that for ages, fruitbat. That's one of the things the Voice is feted to stamp out. https://www.welcometocountry.org/nt-govt-2-billion-indigenous-budget/#:~:text=There%20has%20been%20nothing%20but,sexual%20abuse%20hit%20Tennant%20Creek. |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Frank on Aug 30th, 2023 at 10:11am mothra wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 9:58am:
Abos ripping off Abos. How surprise! They cant clean up their own rubbish without the white man but can but Range Rovers and cheat Centrelink, no worries. Skillz, innit. |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by mothra on Aug 30th, 2023 at 10:17am Frank wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 10:11am:
The NT Govt. are Aboriginal now? |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Belgarion on Aug 30th, 2023 at 10:20am mothra wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 9:58am:
You believe this? ::) |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Frank on Aug 30th, 2023 at 4:33pm mothra wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 10:17am:
The NAAJA - North Australian Aboriginal Justice Agency - is. The country’s largest and best-resourced Indigenous legal organisation. You cannot be this stupid, frightwat, you must be putting on the idiocy on purpose. |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by John Smith on Aug 30th, 2023 at 4:49pm
and still nowhere near as corrupt as the liberal party
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Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by The Grappler on Aug 30th, 2023 at 4:50pm mothra wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 9:58am:
And how precisely will the voice do that? |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Setanta on Aug 30th, 2023 at 5:15pm John Smith wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 4:49pm:
Perhaps we need a Liberal Party "Voice" to parliament to sort it out? :-/ |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Setanta on Aug 30th, 2023 at 5:17pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 4:50pm:
Perhaps it will "centralise" the corruption and make it easier to follow the money trails? Probably not but, ya know, perhaps... |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by John Smith on Aug 30th, 2023 at 5:48pm Setanta wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 5:15pm:
The less liberal party voices there are the better |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Setanta on Aug 30th, 2023 at 5:52pm John Smith wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 5:48pm:
How else will can we deal with the Liberal's corruption? Aboriginal agencies are corrupt, the voice is apparently the answer. Why not a Liberal "voice" and hope for the same outcome? We could even stuff into the Constitution to make sure it works. Quote:
Should we breed them out? Assimilate them? Or just exterminate them? |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by The Grappler on Aug 30th, 2023 at 6:38pm
A Voice For Everyone NOW!! Every group, every individual MUST have a voice - if that voice for each and for all saves just one person's life then it will be worth it!!
Now then - about this endemic corruption - nowhere more apparent than when the show is run by sheilas...... anyone notice yet? X2 corruption... by far the greatest number of Centrelink employees who have rorted the system are sheilas.... just saying - part of the whole new perspective on the table, you know...... look at your sheila politicians and their personal rorts and handout to mates of fat jobs... the latest is the NSW transport minister handing a fat job to her former staffer ..... couple of hundred large more than the minister ... WTF?? You there yet.... now - for the Aboriginal corruption.... when does it stop? Talk about screaming out for their finances to be controlled for them .... royalties robbed and ripped off..... funding for everything ripped off..... Every Single Thing!! |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by John Smith on Aug 30th, 2023 at 6:50pm Quote:
Lock them up. One year in jail for every dollar they scam Quote:
Any of the above |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by The Grappler on Aug 30th, 2023 at 7:14pm John Smith wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 6:50pm:
Any of the above [/quote] Jesus! Your average Kooner would have to pay for that generationally!! To this 'breed them out', 'assimilate them' or 'exterminate them' - this applies to all groups equally? Any corrupt group/person?? |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Setanta on Aug 30th, 2023 at 7:14pm John Smith wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 6:50pm:
Any of the above [/quote] Ahh, same for Aboriginal scammers? $60,000, 60,000 years, smart. __ I see you are all for inclusiveness, no matter the means, well done comrade! We can now use this on any undesirable! We will purify our country! |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by John Smith on Aug 30th, 2023 at 7:19pm Quote:
If you don't like it don't steal As for the rest of your post, do you have a point? |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Setanta on Aug 30th, 2023 at 7:22pm John Smith wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 7:19pm:
If you have to ask, I don't think any explanation would do. I'll leave it to the other readers to make of it what they will. |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by The Grappler on Aug 30th, 2023 at 9:02pm
These are SOOTIES - SOOTD's - Sheilas Out Of Their Depth... a growing problem....
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Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Frank on Aug 31st, 2023 at 8:25am mothra wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 9:58am:
Senior staff of Australia’s largest Indigenous legal service have been accused of continuously sacking employees who become aware of alleged systemic corruption plaguing the embattled organisation, as dozens of disgruntled employees resign in a mass exodus, and many others continue to work without signed contracts. The allegations come following explosive claims of corruption, fraud, bullying and drug use within the North Australian Aboriginal Justice Agency, including serious allegations that former chief executive Priscilla Atkins, CFO Madhur Evans and Chair Colleen Rosas misused thousands of dollars in taxpayer funds. Ms Atkins is suing NAAJA for unfair dismissal, claiming she was sacked after making numerous corruption allegations against Ms Evans, including that she made a discreet payment to Ms Rosas of $20,000. NAAJA denies allegations that Ms Evans and Ms Rosas engaged in deceptive conduct, and claims Ms Atkins was fired for forging Ms Rosas’ signature on her contract extension document, securing her position as CEO – and its $350,000 salary – for a further five years. NAAJA has also alleged Ms Atkins used company funds to buy cars, flights, clothes and artworks. Ms Atkins denies all allegations of misconduct. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/north-australia-aboriginal-justice-agency-chair-sacks-staff-who-discover-corruption/news-story/24a45f1a7d5f560365703543f5bd5b7a |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Frank on Aug 31st, 2023 at 8:35am Frank wrote on Aug 31st, 2023 at 8:25am:
Ms Atkins alleged the NAAJA board intentionally hired their family members and friends, and refuse to publicly advertise positions or allow managers to fill roles. “Staff have been advised that all recruitment and interviews will be conducted by the NAAJA Board,” her email reads, adding that she had reported the matter to the NT ICAC, NT Attorney-General’s office, federal Attorney-General’s office, ASIC and NIAA. “I am appalled that the NAAJA Board and CFO are treating taxpayers’ money like it is their own and to date they are getting away with it. The public would be disgusted that an Aboriginal organisation is being run by an Aboriginal board who are corrupt.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/north-australia-aboriginal-justice-agency-chair-sacks-staff-who-discover-corruption/news-story/24a45f1a7d5f560365703543f5bd5b7a As the Bard of Wales sings: It's not unusual It happens every day No matter what you say You'll find it happens all the time |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Lisa Jones on Aug 31st, 2023 at 8:50am John Smith wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 6:50pm:
Five Foot Frodo - if we applied your own recommendation on you .... then YOU would be in prison for the rest of your miserable life. 😂🤣😆 |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Frank on Sep 24th, 2023 at 4:49pm
Senator Price, along with opposition legal affairs spokeswoman Michaelia Cash, wrote to Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus and Indigenous Affairs minister Linda Burney last week concerning reports in this masthead of corruption, fraud and bullying within the North Australia Aboriginal Justice Agency.
The letter concerned new allegations that NAAJA employees are “self-harming, and are stressed to the point that they are unable to provide appropriate services to clients.” “It is alleged that a significant number of NAAJA employees have resigned over recent months, and that the agency now faces multiple compensation claims for injuries related to its workplace culture,” the letter, obtained by The Australian, reads. “These matters are said to be causally linked with the current administration of NAAJA. We do not express a view one way or the other on the veracity of the allegations. “However, the allegations are very serious and, if true, go directly to the safety of employees. Urgent action is required to provide assurance that the Commonwealth is not supporting arrangements that are harming employees, whether directly or indirectly.” Senator Price, along with opposition legal affairs spokeswoman Michaelia Cash, wrote to Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus and Indigenous Affairs minister Linda Burney last week concerning reports in this masthead of corruption, fraud and bullying within the North Australia Aboriginal Justice Agency. The letter concerned new allegations that NAAJA employees are “self-harming, and are stressed to the point that they are unable to provide appropriate services to clients.” “It is alleged that a significant number of NAAJA employees have resigned over recent months, and that the agency now faces multiple compensation claims for injuries related to its workplace culture,” the letter, obtained by The Australian, reads. “These matters are said to be causally linked with the current administration of NAAJA. We do not express a view one way or the other on the veracity of the allegations. “However, the allegations are very serious and, if true, go directly to the safety of employees. Urgent action is required to provide assurance that the Commonwealth is not supporting arrangements that are harming employees, whether directly or indirectly.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/jacinta-price-intervenes-on-naaja-crisis/news-story/9d7cb439c1fb3ad91bf35ad539f8bc4c |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by freediver on Sep 24th, 2023 at 5:46pm mothra wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 9:58am:
It might be "designated" for grass roots, but it is handled by professional parasites from start to finish, with no accountability. |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Frank on Sep 24th, 2023 at 7:34pm freediver wrote on Sep 24th, 2023 at 5:46pm:
Abo robbing Abo. |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Frank on Nov 14th, 2023 at 8:32pm
'ello, 'hello, 'hello, whassis then??
NAAJA chief executive Olga Havnen becomes latest departure from troubled firm Three months after stepping into the role, the acting boss of the Northern Territory's biggest Aboriginal legal aid service has left the job. Key points: Olga Havnen had been acting chief executive of NAAJA since August The legal firm has had a string of acting CEOs since terminating the employment of long term boss Pricillia Atkins The change comes a month after principal legal officer Nick Espie left the organisation Olga Havnen was appointed acting chief executive officer of the North Australian Aboriginal Justice Agency (NAAJA) in August of this year. She took over from Aboriginal Medical Services Alliance Northern Territory (AMSANT) boss John Paterson, who had been in the role for six months before that. Mr Paterson began acting in the job in February, following the sacking of longtime CEO, Pricilla Atkins. Ms Atkins was ousted late last year amid allegations she had forged the signature of chairperson Colleen Rosas on her contract extension, an allegation Ms Atkins strongly denies. She has since sued the organisation in the Federal Court, alleging she was wrongfully dismissed and seeking to be reinstated. A two-week Federal Court trial was heard last month, with a judgement yet to be handed down. https://amp.abc.net.au/article/103099994 The Voice, innit. A bit croaky, a bit suss, a bit yeah-but-no-but - but a Voice, after all, and that's what matters - Aboriginal Voice of self-determination and speaking truth to power and some such and so on and so forth. Proudly. Always, above all, proudly. Oh, yes. |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by The Grappler Truth Teller on Nov 17th, 2023 at 6:52am Frank wrote on Sep 24th, 2023 at 4:49pm:
Ah, yes - the old "I can't stand the stress" gravy train for life..... SUCKERS!! Believe it or not - I was acquainted (he came to the same club for a drink) with a guy who had been a 'counsellor' for 'troubled gays' - you know - the kind who reckoned the world was beating on them daily and they were perpetual victims of their own struggles with reality .... he also reckoned he was a woman - and had tits installed - you ever seen a Greek brickie's labourer with tits and hair all over thick as a forest? He found the mother lode - like so many of them do these days - of falling into a corner, rocking back and forth, and crying about 'not being able to handle the stress'..... from the proceeds he bought himself a near top storey unit in a Gold Coast high rise to live in while copping money for nothing for the rest of his life from a stupid government... Bob Hawke's 'government of wrecking a silly nation'.... Now this kind of thing started off with a few seriously troubled Veterans - I know .... then gradually spread to firstly the Comm Z troops.... cooking meals in East Timor was Hell and Back, you see .... and slowly permeated its way into the public sector with all that fat money just lying around in the Treasury.... **flings down hand bag** OH! I just can't handle the stress any more of a bad boss, poor work conditions, all those victims of White Supremacy coming through the doors and complaining how they were fitted up and never - EVER - thrashed the Old Girl within an inch of her life or stabbed the old man or ran her car over her own daughter and niece.... TERRIBLE to see their torment day after day..... and now this? Corruption at the top! How much can a koala bear? Cash handout for stress please, then money for life through being 'disabled on the job' .... right up Cheer Street, that one ...... they'd be lining up for a shot at that 'work' and perks.... 8-) 8-) 8-) |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Yadda on Nov 11th, 2024 at 10:09am Frank wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 10:11am:
Abos ripping off Abos......AND other Australian TAXPAYERS. Q. Why are many Aboriginal people calling for 'Truth Telling' ? [i.e. what is their real motive ? ] Hoist with his own petard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoist_with_his_own_petard And, do all Aboriginal people really want 'Truth Telling' ? On that question, what about the 'friends and families' of Ms Atkins, Ms Evans, and Ms Rosas ? Are THEY too, calling for 'Truth Telling' ? And i'm wondering, ...do their 'friends and families' welcome the exposure.....of apparently corrupt practices, by persons within their close community ? If not, why not ? . In an article, in the OP......... "Ms Atkins used company funds to acquire clothes, artworks, flights and cars – including a $129,000 Range Rover;" "Ms Evans secretly paid $20,000 directly into Ms Rosas’s bank account, in breach of the agency’s funding agreement;" "Ms Rosas appointed her nephew as acting CEO, and a friend as head of HR – a position that was not publicly advertised;" |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Yadda on Nov 11th, 2024 at 10:23am Exodus 23:7 Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and righteous slay thou not: for I will not justify the wicked. 8 And thou shalt take no gift: for the gift blindeth the wise, and perverteth the words of the righteous. It is all good advice to us.......persons, who are continually making choices. Read.......Proverbs KJV.......the 1st chapter. Its in the culture, innit. |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 11th, 2024 at 11:30am Yadda wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 10:23am:
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Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 11th, 2024 at 11:40am Yadda wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 10:09am:
mothra's been telling us about the rip-offs for ages now? When did that happen? Was I doing a tour of Afghanistan or something? Every time corruption is mentioned, she and the tribe are in like Flynn abusing people for 'racism' - or frank's 'wacism'... mothra and crew say darkly that even mention of some Aboriginal wrongdoing is a nasty agenda to bring them down and enslave them in chains etc... while genociding them with healthcare at huge cost and such ... true stories!! Anyway it's the African King thing - you know - all that cargo cult goes to the head man, who takes ALL of the cdream, gives enough to his family, then his friends a little less, and the crumbs might make their way to the tribe as a whole... You see it everywhere - Indians, Arabs, Persians, White people... everyone - so why would it be a surprise that uncontrolled cash in the hands of the honcho (cargo cult unearned) is handled the same way? **coughs**maybe there is a NEED for a body to oversee Aboriginal funding.... Jesus - you IDIOTS! MORE cost!! But what choice is there? Huh? Huh? 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) touche` again .... jeez - some Indian jerk pays $200m for his daughter's wedding - the people serving the drinks had to beg to get a few hours work at a few rupees..... and then go home to their corrugated tin shack without toilet or running water etc... what's different? Maybe it's the third world? The one the ratbag left want us to be part of to create 'world equality', and which the ratbag right want us to be part of so they have an equally endless supply of supplicants who they can control by giving out two hours work.... Power To The People! If only so many of those people weren't so stupid... Drain the Billabongs! Make Australia Great Again! They're eating the dollars!! They're eating the cents! They're eating the funds....... of the people..... who LIVE.... there! |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Yadda on Nov 11th, 2024 at 5:08pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 11:40am:
On a similar thought path....... ISLAMIC law [Allah's Law] mandates that a thief will have his hand cut off. [.....as a consequence of being a thief] But i don't think that you will ever see a one handed moslem. I never have. WWW search..... one handed muslim [images] The obvious conclusion ? The devout moslem [the follower of ISLAM] is a moral person. ....he never steals. Correct ? SO RETURNING TO THE PROBLEM..... QUESTION; How can a society of men effectively discourage thievery ? Simples. ANSWER; There must be a real consequence......for all individuals, who are apprehended and convicted of thievery or corruption. Because......if there is no consequence for 'doing' theft......then, as we all witness, almost every day, in Australia.... ....without any consequence, many people will be led by their own natures, to simply steal from others, whenever such an 'opportunity' arises. AGAIN........ If there is no [civil] consequence for wrongdoing, then lawlessness [within a society] is encouraged. . God's Law....... Exodus 20:15 Thou shalt not steal. And if a person does, there is retribution [a consequence] [in the moral law of God]. Exodus 22:1 If a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep. i.e. So in a sane world, ......there is a prescribed penalty, for wrongdoing. "But if ye will not hearken...." Leviticus 26:14-21 . Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. "Glory follows virtue as if it were its shadow." - Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman Statesman |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Brian Ross on Nov 11th, 2024 at 6:22pm |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 13th, 2024 at 8:44am
Thanks to Brother Brian for his learned comment ... I put to the house that we leave the question of Aboriginal fundings entirely in his hands, so as to secure his retirement packaging ... and also to ensure that its failure is complete .....all in favour?
On a more realistic note - sadly - it looks as if the Children From Paradise are just not able to handle their money in the big old White Man's World - so some trustee might have to take over its running ..... and extract costs... just remember what I told yez YEARS ago about such things - and yez all realise now .... a massive proportion of any funding vanishes into 'administrative costs. Let me give you a perzample... The Eld Gel gets $11,000 p.a. funding from aged care ... she gets 1.5 hours a fortnight house cleaning ..... the worker is paid $30 an hour or so = $45.... times 26 fortnights = $1170 ................... the administration picks up - wait for it..... (she won't let me near the paperwork - frightened it might cause trouble if I blow the whistle) per DAY she is on the books, whether or not work is actually done ....... anyway - her total expenditure to date out of the allocated funds is over $4000 - so admin is costing somewhere near 75% of actual expenditure on her care package. Now then .... to look at Aboriginal fundings..... royalties, cash grants, handouts, special stuff handed around like chaff in a high wind..... AlboMoney etc .... every time a handful of that lovely arrives at the doorstep of the Head Honcho - The Silverback - that honcho needs to take out mega salary and perks, feed supplicants and mates for jobs etc in fine style, and then the rest is available for distribution to those at the sharp end who need it most...... It would require (gasps) an AUDIT to actually see where all this funding is going.... I mean ... how many Land Cruisers can a Silverback realistically buy for each cash flow? So where does the rest go? For each cashflow to the Silverback - a salary etc is drawn... just like some 'board member' in The Club of less than 200 who draw from each corporation a separate stipend .... so when you have The Top Silverback (and family - ask the Aboriginal women who gets all the lovely) handling it all - the African Chief - he's in luxury land. You see what I'm getting at here? No wonder some are yelling for an audit as a start.... and some real solutions - which may involve some paternalistic group handling 'their' money for them so as to avoid all the corruption and waste.... and to ensure it gets to where it is supposed to go.... which, of course, leaves the building of prisons short... (ah - The Park - there's a solution).... |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by thegreatdivide on Nov 13th, 2024 at 9:43am
Three long pages for the OP; all missing the CAUSE of "aboriginal corruption".
namely: Institutional welfare dependency, in lieu of employment, as a "safety net. aka 'the poverty industry'. Deplorable. |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 13th, 2024 at 9:45am
You are mistaking disadvantage as you see it for Corruption.
A persons doesn't need to be disadvantaged to be corrupt - two separate issues..... and clearly The Silverback is in no way 'disadvantaged' - rather the opposite.... |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by thegreatdivide on Nov 13th, 2024 at 10:02am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Nov 13th, 2024 at 9:45am:
Your error: the disadvantage is among the welfare dependent; the Corruption is among those administering the poverty industry (in this case, the relatively well-off black administrators of various black organisations). Quote:
See above. |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Frank on Nov 13th, 2024 at 11:18am thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 13th, 2024 at 10:02am:
Parasitic symbiosis. |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by thegreatdivide on Nov 13th, 2024 at 1:12pm Frank wrote on Nov 13th, 2024 at 11:18am:
Wrong: the "Silverbacks" exist because of the institutionalized poverty industry - which itself only exists because it is the preferred "safety net" of blind neoclassical economists and their idiotic NAIRU. |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 13th, 2024 at 1:18pm
Still lost - OK then - we'll withdraw all extraneous funding to groups where the Silverbacks are allowed to control the funds, and they can apply individually for assistance at Centrelink.
Agreed? I can see it now.... the Silverback Enforcers will come on down and levitate any funding from mothers and children under the 'share and share alike' 'cultural aspect' .... then they'll do what they always do - trade the goods and funds for the young women for the night or so, and for power within the 'community', to run the drugs trades, and all that ... Don't be naive ... there's a special place here to discuss your Comparative Cynicism.... start by accepting that you know nothing.... start with a blank mind - that's what a few here already do and still persist with..... |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Valkie on Nov 14th, 2024 at 4:28pm
One rule for all.
One welfare system for all Take the advantages of FAKE WHITE aboriginals ripping off the system away. It's a disgusting waste of money. Too many FAKE WHITE aboriginals taking the cash off real aboriginals. Parents or grandparents MUST be full blood OR YOU ARE WHITE |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Frank on Jun 9th, 2025 at 10:54am
Sacked Cape York Land Council CEO Dion Creek faces fraud charges amid review of World Heritage listing
Former Cape York Land Council chief executive Dion Reece Creek, 39, has been charged with 38 counts of fraud, stealing, computer hacking and making false declarations relating to his two years running the influential native title organisation. Mr Creek oversaw the $1.2m, taxpayer-funded consultation process with traditional owners that paved the way for thousands of square kilometres of Cape York to be elevated to the UNESCO World Heritage Tentative List in June last year. The proposed World Heritage listing was quietly resurrected in 2023 by the then state and federal Labor governments. A previous push for World Heritage listing on the far north Queensland peninsula was abandoned a decade ago after local Indigenous leaders raised concerns that the accompanying introduction of new environmental and cultural protections would stifle economic development. |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller on Jun 9th, 2025 at 1:55pm
That is precisely why all funding should be carefully monitored and a real plebiscite of all those involved taken - so as to ensure as much as possible in The Land Of The Fist, that a fair approach for all is made.
Like all these things - it is supposed to help the Aborigines and governments get to grips with issues - and the money is so often waylaid. "Which reminds me, fellow travelers along the Road to Perdition.... there's always a big fuss and to-do about any filthy, low-down, conniving Gypo getting into the rivers of government gold flowing from Canberra for 'social engineering' projects and the like... some Turdsuken tribesman can get his hands on plenty for NDIS childcare for disabled kids money... and so forth... and when caught... the roof caves in!! On the other hand, when a politician's spouse or similar gets hands into some river of gold flowing from Cambra (Grand Theft Capital of Australia) ... or a filthy little rat weasel steals well over $230 Bn and climbing through cunning investment that benefits only his mates.... or some filthy low-life Nazi's son from Europe buys into privatised roads his own government is 'creating' out of public roads.... scarcely a ripple disturbs the sleeping pond... You all just doze on and imagine you are some fearless warriors defending poor little Hamas murderers... and similar... you'd rather pitch your tents, dig your trenches and fight for some 'right' to carve up healthy kids than actually look at what is killing your... and MY... country. Charity.... justice, Right which must be done though the Heavens fall.... begins at home... you slick tear leakers all over the planet are just sucking the life out of Australia and its REAL people. I guess I'll just have to leave you to it... got a wall to finish and a lot of travel for the Eld Gel's doctors coming up..." |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by freediver on Jul 2nd, 2025 at 5:43pm Frank wrote on Jun 9th, 2025 at 10:54am:
So simply appointing unelected aborigines to government-established institutions so they can "represent" aborigines just results in fraud? Why do we keep trying to do this and thinking the outcome will be any different? |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Frank on Jul 2nd, 2025 at 6:11pm freediver wrote on Jul 2nd, 2025 at 5:43pm:
Because they are not wacists like you. Tsk, tsk ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by freediver on Jul 2nd, 2025 at 8:58pm Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2025 at 6:11pm:
So only racist people think it is a bad idea to keep doing the exact same thing with the expectation of a different result? |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Frank on Jul 2nd, 2025 at 9:42pm freediver wrote on Jul 2nd, 2025 at 8:58pm:
Questioning the appointment of incompetent Abos is wacist. |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Brian Ross on Jul 5th, 2025 at 2:12pm
Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Jul 5th, 2025 at 3:16pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 5th, 2025 at 2:12pm:
.. goes without saying that the Noble Savage cannot be corrupt - corrupt doesn't even have a word in their language and is a cultural appropriation from The White Man's Ways.. Whartey done it to them!! |
Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Brian Ross on Jul 5th, 2025 at 7:11pm
Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Aboriginal corruption Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Jul 5th, 2025 at 7:17pm
The Sacred Khefre cannot be corrupt or a criminal.... their people are not criminals by nature.... corruption and theft as a servant are white man's things imposed on them in return for using white man's money and such ..... you can't expect any self-respecting Khefre to understand that, let alone accept that subtle domination and culturalisation away from his/her 'culture' ..... it's a form of theft of their sacred right to simply hunt and gather them dollars for themselves and their immediates first!!
And don't go pulling that 'nepotism' thing - that's even worse being an Ancient Egyptian thing... talk about imposing cultural and ethical values in use thousands of years ago ..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D would YOU consider more than one of those people in the NAIDOC week ad to be Aboriginal? All but one are about 85% at least white... just like that 'Elder' down Victoria way who owns a farm the white man's way, has a great-grandparent or something half-Khefre, and whose missus is an MP or something.... FFS ..... |
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