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Message started by Bobby. on Jul 12th, 2023 at 9:13pm

Title: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 12th, 2023 at 9:13pm
When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?



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A deep dive into the early history, discovery and use of steroids.
Specifically we attempt to figure out whether Silver Era bodybuilders were still natural.
Steve Reeves, John Grimek, George Eiferman, Clancy Ross, Reg Park, Alan Stephan,
Jack Dellinger, John Farbotnik, Roy Hilligen and
others were all phenomenal bodybuilders from the 1940s and early 1950s.
Is it possible that they used something?
Was testosterone available to them?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MupFMhiSlJk

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:24am

The people using steroids are crazy.

One example:
So many professional wrestlers died from them.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by The Grappler on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:56am
I laugh at those guys.... pissants...

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:22am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:56am:
I laugh at those guys.... pissants...



They would better off working on their brains if they have any.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 13th, 2023 at 12:49pm
The gym junkies at the CQU gym did not look like steroid users at all. And why would they use steroids? Natural body building is so much healthier. My friend's husband looks like he is a constant user of steroids, for his competition. But, I think even the gym junkies at the university could give that guy a run for his money.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2023 at 1:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:24am:
The people using steroids are crazy.

One example:
So many professional wrestlers died from them.


Were they vaccinated?   :-/

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 13th, 2023 at 2:26pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 12:49pm:
The gym junkies at the CQU gym did not look like steroid users at all. And why would they use steroids? Natural body building is so much healthier. My friend's husband looks like he is a constant user of steroids, for his competition. But, I think even the gym junkies at the university could give that guy a run for his money.



Happiness is building a huge body full of muscles.


Phil Heath



Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 13th, 2023 at 4:39pm
You would be better off building muscle without the use of steroids.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Linus on Jul 13th, 2023 at 5:03pm


Even the women in bodybuilding are taking steroids by the bucket load.

( You may need to slide the image to the left)

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 13th, 2023 at 6:38pm
I can never find any woman using steroids to be attractive. They come off looking like lesbians. Fitness models look good:


Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Linus on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:08pm
Even fitness models use them, it's a matter of what and how much.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:24pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 4:39pm:
You would be better off building muscle without the use of steroids.



But would you look like Phil Heath?

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:32pm
I knew a runner who used hard work, diets and dedication to achieve her athletic body. She loved to show off her athletic legs. What she achieved is not the result of using drugs or performance enhancers.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:24pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 4:39pm:
You would be better off building muscle without the use of steroids.



But would you look like Phil Heath?


I had to look up the name to see to whom you were referring. Then it became obvious that you had posted his picture up without using his name. Very few guys know the name of many male bodybuilders. Why you would know the name Phil Heath and act like other people would know his name, it comes down to speculation.

I have no desire to look as muscular as Heath. If I get to a point where I am as physically fit as a triathlete, that would do me okay. But, given my advancing age, I would settle for being physically healthy.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:40pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:24pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 4:39pm:
You would be better off building muscle without the use of steroids.



But would you look like Phil Heath?


I had to look up the name to see to whom you were referring. Then it became obvious that you had posted his picture up without using his name. Very few guys know the name of many male bodybuilders. Why you would know the name Phil Heath and act like other people would know his name, it comes down to speculation.

I have no desire to look as muscular as Heath. If I get to a point where I am as physically fit as a triathlete, that would do me okay. But, given my advancing age, I would settle for being physically healthy.



OK - I added his name.
he was a world body building champion for a long time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Heath

I think he looks ridiculous and I bet he won't live to a normal age.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:44pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:40pm:
OK - I added his name.
he was a world body building champion for a long time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Heath

I think he looks ridiculous and I bet he won't live to a normal age.


So... why would you think I would want to look like Phil Heath if he looks so ridiculous? I would expect to feel capable of achieving a physically strong body right into my 60s. But, then I would expect to tone down to physically healthy after my 60 ends.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:49pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:40pm:
OK - I added his name.
he was a world body building champion for a long time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Heath

I think he looks ridiculous and I bet he won't live to a normal age.


So... why would you think I would want to look like Phil Heath if he looks so ridiculous? I would expect to feel capable of achieving a physically strong body right into my 60s. But, then I would expect to tone down to physically healthy after my 60 ends.



I was stirring.
I imagined myself as a body builder in one of those gyms talking to
another body builder in a conversation where they admired Phil Heath.



Phil Heath





Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Linus on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:51pm
He probably won't. Professional bodybuilders like him tend to die at younger ages than the general population because of the PEDs they take.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:56pm

Linus wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:51pm:
He probably won't. Professional bodybuilders like him tend to die at younger ages than the general population because of the PEDs they take.



yes - check out this list of pro wrestlers where steroids are used by most of them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_premature_professional_wrestling_deaths


Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Gordon on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:01pm

Linus wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:51pm:
He probably won't. Professional bodybuilders like him tend to die at younger ages than the general population because of the PEDs they take.


Pretty much. Body builders are extreme users of steroids. They take too many and for too long and there's not much they do that could be considered healthy.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:10pm
You imagined being a body builder talking to other body builders about Phil Heath? I reckon you imagined your name to be Ben Dover talking to Frodo and Sam about taking your ring to get destroyed at Mordor.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:16pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:10pm:
You imagined being a body builder talking to other body builders about Phil Heath? I reckon you imagined your name to be Ben Dover talking to Frodo and Sam about taking your ring to get destroyed at Mordor.


I don't know what you're talking about. Doesn't matter.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:17pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:01pm:

Linus wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:51pm:
He probably won't. Professional bodybuilders like him tend to die at younger ages than the general population because of the PEDs they take.


Pretty much. Body builders are extreme users of steroids. They take too many and for too long and there's not much they do that could be considered healthy.



Some of them spend over $1,000 per week on steroids and other drugs.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Linus on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:43pm
For the likes of Phil Heath, it's an investment. He makes millions from his sponsors and endorsements. But he's sacrificing his health and longevity for the money.

For others, it's a waste of money, health(physical and mental) and longevity for a brief period of looking like the hulk.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by JC Denton on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:58pm
whenever they were invented

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by AusGeoff on Jul 14th, 2023 at 1:52am

Notice how the overuse of steroids has atrophied
Heath's penis and his testicles.    I'd be guessing
they'd now be the size of a 6-year-old boy's.

   (I suppose we'd need to ask a couple of the
   homosexuals here if that's true?   Uh... not
   about little boys, but about Heath, he added
   hastily!)


Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 14th, 2023 at 7:50am

AusGeoff wrote on Jul 14th, 2023 at 1:52am:
Notice how the overuse of steroids has atrophied
Heath's penis and his testicles.    I'd be guessing
they'd now be the size of a 6-year-old boy's.

   (I suppose we'd need to ask a couple of the
   homosexuals here if that's true?   Uh... not
   about little boys, but about Heath, he added
   hastily!)



He'll have to stop those steroids sooner rather than later.
I wonder what he'll look like in 10 years or
even if he will still be alive after all the damage he's done to himself?

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 14th, 2023 at 3:08pm

Phil Heath



Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 14th, 2023 at 3:50pm

AusGeoff wrote on Jul 14th, 2023 at 1:52am:
Notice how the overuse of steroids has atrophied
Heath's penis and his testicles.    I'd be guessing
they'd now be the size of a 6-year-old boy's.

   (I suppose we'd need to ask a couple of the
   homosexuals here if that's true?   Uh... not
   about little boys, but about Heath, he added
   hastily!)


I knew of a bodybuilder who was into the steroids. He managed to atrophy his penis that he was not giving his girlfriend much pleasure.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 14th, 2023 at 3:52pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:10pm:
You imagined being a body builder talking to other body builders about Phil Heath? I reckon you imagined your name to be Ben Dover talking to Frodo and Sam about taking your ring to get destroyed at Mordor.


I don't know what you're talking about. Doesn't matter.


You fantasize about Phil Heath. That is why you repetitiously post his picture.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 14th, 2023 at 4:02pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 14th, 2023 at 3:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:10pm:
You imagined being a body builder talking to other body builders about Phil Heath? I reckon you imagined your name to be Ben Dover talking to Frodo and Sam about taking your ring to get destroyed at Mordor.


I don't know what you're talking about. Doesn't matter.


You fantasize about Phil Heath. That is why you repetitiously post his picture.



Does he make you feel inadequate?


Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 14th, 2023 at 4:05pm

Why do women go for bodybuilders?



Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 14th, 2023 at 5:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2023 at 4:02pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 14th, 2023 at 3:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:10pm:
You imagined being a body builder talking to other body builders about Phil Heath? I reckon you imagined your name to be Ben Dover talking to Frodo and Sam about taking your ring to get destroyed at Mordor.


I don't know what you're talking about. Doesn't matter.


You fantasize about Phil Heath. That is why you repetitiously post his picture.



Does he make you feel inadequate?


Phil might be able to lift a lot more than I could. But, I bet I could satisfy more women than he would ever be able to do.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Linus on Jul 14th, 2023 at 6:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2023 at 4:05pm:
Why do women go for bodybuilders?




Outside of some national survey, I doubt that they'd mostly like segmented hulks in that photo. Although, some would. But maybe they should be wary of what they wish for. For example, the roid rage that would get directed toward them.

Some have been savagely assaulted and some have died.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 14th, 2023 at 7:57pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 14th, 2023 at 5:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2023 at 4:02pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 14th, 2023 at 3:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:10pm:
You imagined being a body builder talking to other body builders about Phil Heath? I reckon you imagined your name to be Ben Dover talking to Frodo and Sam about taking your ring to get destroyed at Mordor.


I don't know what you're talking about. Doesn't matter.


You fantasize about Phil Heath. That is why you repetitiously post his picture.



Does he make you feel inadequate?


Phil might be able to lift a lot more than I could. But, I bet I could satisfy more women than he would ever be able to do.



Women like hard muscle.   :)

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 15th, 2023 at 1:44pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2023 at 7:57pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 14th, 2023 at 5:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2023 at 4:02pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 14th, 2023 at 3:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 9:10pm:
You imagined being a body builder talking to other body builders about Phil Heath? I reckon you imagined your name to be Ben Dover talking to Frodo and Sam about taking your ring to get destroyed at Mordor.


I don't know what you're talking about. Doesn't matter.


You fantasize about Phil Heath. That is why you repetitiously post his picture.



Does he make you feel inadequate?


Phil might be able to lift a lot more than I could. But, I bet I could satisfy more women than he would ever be able to do.



Women like hard muscle.   :)


The only muscle that is not going to be hard whilst you are on steroids is your wee-wee.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 15th, 2023 at 2:03pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 15th, 2023 at 1:44pm:
The only muscle that is not going to be hard whilst you are on steroids is your wee-wee.



Don't tell Arnie that.   :)

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2023 at 2:40pm
Poll

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 15th, 2023 at 2:53pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2023 at 2:03pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 15th, 2023 at 1:44pm:
The only muscle that is not going to be hard whilst you are on steroids is your wee-wee.



Don't tell Arnie that.   :)


I think Arnie has suffered the consequences of steroid abuse, in that department.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 15th, 2023 at 3:10pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 15th, 2023 at 2:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2023 at 2:03pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 15th, 2023 at 1:44pm:
The only muscle that is not going to be hard whilst you are on steroids is your wee-wee.



Don't tell Arnie that.   :)


I think Arnie has suffered the consequences of steroid abuse, in that department.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5563427/Did-Arnies-bodybuilding-cripple-heart.html


Did Arnie's bodybuilding cripple his heart?

Questions swarm over former Mr World's steroid use after scare during his SECOND valve replacement

    The 70-year-old actor-turned-politician (and cigar lover) has openly discussed his steroid use
    He has always said he gets regular physicals to monitor his heart ever since
    Some fear it has caught up with him as he undergoes his second heart operation
    Here we explain the cardiovascular risks of steroids, cigars - and if it's all just old age

By Mia De Graaf Health Editor For Dailymail.com

Updated: 10:52 AEST, 31 March 2018



Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 15th, 2023 at 7:13pm
Back in the early 1990s, our science teacher told us that Arnie (notgonnaspellhislastname) had been on testosterone and testosterone and dianabol. Arn would have risked:

damage to the gonads (testicles or ovaries)
liver disease
malfunctions of the kidneys, liver or heart
'roid rage', which is characterised by uncontrollable outbursts of psychotic aggression
paranoia and mood swings, including deep depression
severe acne, which can cause scarring
high blood cholesterol levels
high blood pressure (hypertension)
injuries to tendons that can't keep up with the increased muscle strength
delusional feelings of being superhuman or invincible.
trembling and muscle tremors.
nerve damage from needle use – this may lead to conditions such as sciatica

My science teacher told us that Arnie would have had to get heart surgery to survive pass the age of 60.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 15th, 2023 at 8:12pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 15th, 2023 at 7:13pm:
Back in the early 1990s, our science teacher told us that Arnie (notgonnaspellhislastname) had been on testosterone and testosterone and dianabol. Arn would have risked:

damage to the gonads (testicles or ovaries)
liver disease
malfunctions of the kidneys, liver or heart
'roid rage', which is characterised by uncontrollable outbursts of psychotic aggression
paranoia and mood swings, including deep depression
severe acne, which can cause scarring
high blood cholesterol levels
high blood pressure (hypertension)
injuries to tendons that can't keep up with the increased muscle strength
delusional feelings of being superhuman or invincible.
trembling and muscle tremors.
nerve damage from needle use – this may lead to conditions such as sciatica

My science teacher told us that Arnie would have had to get heart surgery to survive pass the age of 60.



Arnie nearly died from steroids.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 17th, 2023 at 7:24pm
Arnold Schwarzenegger About His Steroids Addiction...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BdK1_EEhAw




10 MOST EXTREME BUBBLE GUT BODYBUILDERS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xQH8NSGRzI

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 17th, 2023 at 9:14pm
Did anyone mention the proposed "Enhanced Games -- sports without drug testing"? It is an alternative to the Olympics, where athletes can use performance enhancers.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by aquascoot on Jul 18th, 2023 at 6:07am
In life nearly always the easy way is also the incorrect way

Can you get big muscles by injecting steroids
Sure it's easy
Can you get big muscles by lifting heavy weights
Sure it's hard

Can you get money by doing some boring work as a clerk in the public service
Sure it's easy
Can you apply yourself take risks face challenges have sleepless nights and build a business
Sure it's hard

Can you go down to Centrelink and get money because you are a little victim
Sure it's easy
Can you step up and take personal responsibility and not complain about adversity
Sure it's hard

Can you gratify yourself and your appetites with pawn and fast food
Sure it's easy
Can you build a great relationship and create a nutritious meal
Sure it's hard


The superior man looks at every situation
Sees the unthinking masses following the path of least resistance
And then gets onto the narrow road to success
That's why it's narrow
Not much traffic

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Gordon on Jul 18th, 2023 at 11:37am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18th, 2023 at 6:07am:
In life nearly always the easy way is also the incorrect way

Can you get big muscles by injecting steroids
Sure it's easy
Can you get big muscles by lifting heavy weights
Sure it's hard

Can you get money by doing some boring work as a clerk in the public service
Sure it's easy
Can you apply yourself take risks face challenges have sleepless nights and build a business
Sure it's hard

Can you go down to Centrelink and get money because you are a little victim
Sure it's easy
Can you step up and take personal responsibility and not complain about adversity
Sure it's hard

Can you gratify yourself and your appetites with pawn and fast food
Sure it's easy
Can you build a great relationship and create a nutritious meal
Sure it's hard


The superior man looks at every situation
Sees the unthinking masses following the path of least resistance
And then gets onto the narrow road to success
That's why it's narrow
Not much traffic


What most people get wrong about roid using bodybuilders is they are taking the easy way out. No doubt some want to get big with less work, but most take roids because it allows them to actually work harder. It also allows them to get to a  muscle mass that would otherwise unobtainable.

Bodybuilders, natty or not have an incredible work ethic and discipline.

Of course I totally disagree with their goals because most extreme bodybuilders, natty or not are generally not healthy.

Plus, there is the opportunity cost of spending so much time to get so big.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Jul 18th, 2023 at 11:47am
Legends Reacting to Arnold's Message about Modern Bodybuilding:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQFfzqXYA1w

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 24th, 2024 at 8:18pm

7 Celebrities Who Admitted To Taking Steroids (SHOCKING!)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFhbuYg26aY

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Jasin on Mar 24th, 2024 at 10:27pm
I've dated a few female body builders.
I'm not much in the extreme types where they look grotesquely over-cooked.
But women who work for tone and have that athletic look are super hot.
I've seen women who do just basic workouts out-muscle ordinary guys who can't be bothered but to slag these women off.
Plus, these women have a strong libido.  ;)
I love a woman who knows how to chop wood, as they say.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 24th, 2024 at 10:37pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 24th, 2024 at 10:27pm:
I've dated a few female body builders.
I'm not much in the extreme types where they look grotesquely over-cooked.
But women who work for tone and have that athletic look are super hot.
I've seen women who do just basic workouts out-muscle ordinary guys who can't be bothered but to slag these women off.
Plus, these women have a strong libido.  ;)
I love a woman who knows how to chop wood, as they say.



As long as they don't start growing a woody.    :-[

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Jasin on Mar 24th, 2024 at 11:30pm
That's an illusion. Sure, there are 'Dykes' with muscles because they're the women who have grown up thinking that working the body into shape is a 'man's thing' and thus their hormones work that way.
But women with great athletic builds can still feel very much 'feminine' and sexy and they look (and feel) great! They work towards putting their bodies into the 'female shape' from such physical activity.
You're missing a lot in women, if you think that Bodybuilding  only makes 'males'.
How many 'male' Bodybuilders are Poofs? You know - gotta be a 'woman' if you want to look beautiful to behold.


Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 25th, 2024 at 5:59am

Jasin wrote on Mar 24th, 2024 at 11:30pm:
That's an illusion. Sure, there are 'Dykes' with muscles because they're the women who have grown up thinking that working the body into shape is a 'man's thing' and thus their hormones work that way.
But women with great athletic builds can still feel very much 'feminine' and sexy and they look (and feel) great! They work towards putting their bodies into the 'female shape' from such physical activity.
You're missing a lot in women, if you think that Bodybuilding  only makes 'males'.
How many 'male' Bodybuilders are Poofs? You know - gotta be a 'woman' if you want to look beautiful to behold.



Bodybuilders aren't poofters.    ;D

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Jasin on Mar 25th, 2024 at 8:58am
Hell of a lot of Poofs are Bodybuilders Beautiful Inc.
Mirror mirror on the wall.
Their libidos are high and if the chicks aren't around or are dykes...
Those Poofs would whip your arse into shape - just the way they like it.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 25th, 2024 at 12:26pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 8:58am:
Hell of a lot of Poofs are Bodybuilders Beautiful Inc.
Mirror mirror on the wall.
Their libidos are high and if the chicks aren't around or are dykes...
Those Poofs would whip your arse into shape - just the way they like it.



LOL - no poofters are getting my arse - maybe yours?     ;D

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Jasin on Mar 25th, 2024 at 12:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 12:26pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 8:58am:
Hell of a lot of Poofs are Bodybuilders Beautiful Inc.
Mirror mirror on the wall.
Their libidos are high and if the chicks aren't around or are dykes...
Those Poofs would whip your arse into shape - just the way they like it.



LOL - no poofters are getting my arse - maybe yours?     ;D

When the poofs starting salivating at my arse, I go to the nearest good-looking female for protection (for the night) ;D

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 25th, 2024 at 1:14pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 12:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 12:26pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 8:58am:
Hell of a lot of Poofs are Bodybuilders Beautiful Inc.
Mirror mirror on the wall.
Their libidos are high and if the chicks aren't around or are dykes...
Those Poofs would whip your arse into shape - just the way they like it.



LOL - no poofters are getting my arse - maybe yours?     ;D

When the poofs starting salivating at my arse, I go to the nearest good-looking female for protection (for the night) ;D



Does Phil Heath look like a poofter to you?



Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Jasin on Mar 25th, 2024 at 1:19pm
Phil is straight apparently.
But I'm sure there's another Phil out there, who looks much the same, who pumps the butt like a dumb-bell.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 25th, 2024 at 1:22pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
Phil is straight apparently.
But I'm sure there's another Phil out there, who looks much the same, who pumps the butt like a dumb-bell.



;D  ;D  ;D

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Dnarever on Mar 25th, 2024 at 1:30pm
Artificial Steroids were created in the 1950's and bodybuilders increases in size in the 1950's looks like it is a bit obvious.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Jasin on Mar 25th, 2024 at 4:46pm
Read a Sci-Fi long ago that showed Humanity 'evolving' biologically via the influence of Performance Enhancers (like 'Spice' in F.Herbert's Dune series).
By the 3rd generation of these Roid, etc users breeding the effects into their offspring, the chemicals lose their 'detrimental' effect of negative side-effects and the human body incorporates it as an evolutionary adaption.
Humans being able to naturally 'hibernate' due to anti-freeze in bloodstream, deal with Zero-Gravity longer, live underwater and many other now attainable variants in 'specialised' evolutionary adaptions.
Enhanced hearing, seeing like a Mantis Shrimp in many levels, etc.
...all from Performance Enhancers used through the generations specifically breeding for that specific 'performance' to be enhanced.


I have no doubt that one day, maybe Australia (the most 'virulent' country in the world) even? Will just pump out the 'freedom' to Biologically do what they like! Just look at the USA with its 'test-dummy' children being subjected to hormonal sex-change manipulations by 'Science'.

Science: Just because it can. Does it mean it should?

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 25th, 2024 at 4:51pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 4:46pm:
Read a Sci-Fi long ago that showed Humanity 'evolving' biologically via the influence of Performance Enhancers (like 'Spice' in F.Herbert's Dune series).
By the 3rd generation of these Roid, etc users breeding the effects into their offspring, the chemicals lose their 'detrimental' effect of negative side-effects and the human body incorporates it as an evolutionary adaption.
Humans being able to naturally 'hibernate' due to anti-freeze in bloodstream, deal with Zero-Gravity longer, live underwater and many other now attainable variants in 'specialised' evolutionary adaptions.
Enhanced hearing, seeing like a Mantis Shrimp in many levels, etc.
...all from Performance Enhancers used through the generations specifically breeding for that specific 'performance' to be enhanced.


I have no doubt that one day, maybe Australia (the most 'virulent' country in the world) even? Will just pump out the 'freedom' to Biologically do what they like! Just look at the USA with its 'test-dummy' children being subjected to hormonal sex-change manipulations by 'Science'.

Science: Just because it can. Does it mean it should?



That's not how evolution works.


Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Jasin on Mar 25th, 2024 at 5:28pm
Evolution adapts to the 'environment' and if the environment of humans is the intake of performance enhancing 'chemicals', then the body must adapt and will adapt with each knew generation made under the influence of it in the human body.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Mar 25th, 2024 at 5:40pm
I heard one inherited a brain once and keeps it in a jar on the mantel piece.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by BigP on Mar 25th, 2024 at 6:09pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:56am:
I laugh at those guys.... pissants...



Youve been hangin from the bar for so long you've gotta be on steroids

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by BigP on Mar 25th, 2024 at 6:11pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 5:40pm:
I heard one inherited a brain once and keeps it in a jar on the mantel piece.


Im a little curious as to when someone is going to donate you a brain ?

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Dnarever on Mar 25th, 2024 at 6:31pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 5:28pm:
Evolution adapts to the 'environment' and if the environment of humans is the intake of performance enhancing 'chemicals', then the body must adapt and will adapt with each knew generation made under the influence of it in the human body.


These chemicals tend to have as many or more adverse results as positive. When evolution does not work it leads to extinction.

Given that in this case one of the side effects is on reproductive systems this is the more probable outcome were anyone ever stupid enough to try it.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Dnarever on Mar 25th, 2024 at 6:33pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 13th, 2023 at 8:56am:
I laugh at those guys.... pissants...



It is a bad look on either sex. Even when in full training I never went for bulk. The gorilla walk never appealed to me.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by BigP on Mar 25th, 2024 at 7:19pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 6:31pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 5:28pm:
Evolution adapts to the 'environment' and if the environment of humans is the intake of performance enhancing 'chemicals', then the body must adapt and will adapt with each knew generation made under the influence of it in the human body.


These chemicals tend to have as many or more adverse results as positive. When evolution does not work it leads to extinction.

Given that in this case one of the side effects is on reproductive systems this is the more probable outcome were anyone ever stupid enough to try it.



""These chemicals tend to have as many or more adverse results as positive.""

if you could  run that by us in English it would be appreciated, It doesn't make any sense ?   

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Bobby. on Mar 26th, 2024 at 6:17am
Blessing Okagbare drops her hair in the Women's Long jump -

IAAF Diamond League Oslo 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vogohZdAM6s



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blessing_Okagbare

Following a hearing at the Athletics Integrity Unit that found her to have taken both human growth hormone and EPO over an extended period, and to have failed to cooperate with the investigation, Okagbare was banned for ten years, effectively ending her athletics career in disgrace.[5] On 23 June 2022, the AIU announced that Okagbare's ban had been extended by a year for further anti-doping offences.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Gnads on Mar 27th, 2024 at 9:13am
Steroids have their place in medical & veterinary applications.

Not in sport as an enhancer.

As has been demonstrated over the years when used by competitive humans it gets abused and causes more harm than good.

The poll question needs to be more specific.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by Jasin on Mar 27th, 2024 at 9:38am
Even too many oranges can kill you.
Too much of a good thing, can be bad for you.

Don't know if its true?
But it was common knowledge in the Sydney Hospital scene that a Junkie on ICE got ballistically violent and some male Nurse bloke just jabbed himself with a shot of Adrenalin and basically pulverised the violent junkie into submission and restraint.  ;D

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by UnSubRocky on Mar 27th, 2024 at 12:20pm
It was only the other day that I was on my way out of the shopping centre, when I saw some person I had not seen in about 25 years. Twenty-five years ago, I had a free month's membership to the CQ University gym. Taking a break at the gym, I watched some 40y.o. guy use the bench press. He was going to do reps on something like 100kg+. His arms were massive. And it was obvious that he did not miss leg day. But, using a spotter, he did about 20 repetitions on what looked to be about 100kg worth of weight.

The other day, he walked in to the shopping centre and he still had those bulky arms. Except, it looked like he only did the occasional work out. His arms looked somewhat flabby muscular. I get the feeling he was on steroids back in his day. But he is no longer using enhancements, and his body has reverted back to how he would look doing bodybuilding drug free.

Title: Re: When Did Bodybuilders Start Using Steroids?
Post by UnSubRocky on Mar 27th, 2024 at 12:30pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 27th, 2024 at 9:38am:
Even too many oranges can kill you.
Too much of a good thing, can be bad for you.


I eat about 2 oranges per night nearly every night. It is not bad for you. But, if you eat a lot of oranges, you can end up with diarrhoea and other nausea. I sit in bed watching tv series on my bedroom television. Normally, I would eat 2 oranges and something else. Then I would have a bowl of cereal. Afterwards, I would have about 4 boiled eggs. I would wash the eggs down with a large glass mug of juice with chia seeds. You could imagine that by the next morning, I do not need coffee to get me going.

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