Got an email from the Electricity company today.

From August 1st  2023 my electricity is going up in price:

+18% for ordinary electricity, +31% for hot water and +13% for service supply.

So much for renewables saving us money?
They destroyed Hazelwood power station in Victoria
but had nothing to replace it.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 11:44am:

Got an email from the Electricity company today. From August 1st  2023 my electricity is going up in price: +18% for ordinary electricity, +31% for hot water and +13% for service supply. So much for renewables saving us money? They destroyed Hazelwood power station in Victoria but had nothing to replace it.

Man the barricades. Eureka is rising from the ashes.

Electricity company executives and shareholders have needy families too.

Thanks LTYC for sharing that important info with us.


The website says:


Why are my energy prices changing?

We typically review our prices every year in line with movements in our costs of supplying energy to you.

What makes up my energy prices?
Wholesale Costs
Energy retailers incur costs when they purchase electricity and gas from generators and producers to retail it to customers.

Network Costs
Network costs are the costs of transporting electricity and gas to your house. These costs include the cost of building, maintaining and operating the natural gas pipelines and electricity poles and wires that transport energy to your home or business.

Environmental Costs
Environmental costs are incurred by energy retailers to comply with government programs designed to provide incentives for energy efficiency and to support the development of renewable electricity.

Retail Operating Costs and Margin
Your electricity and gas prices include retail operating costs, including managing billing and payments and for the full range of customer services we provide, and a retail margin.

They didn't mention that "Electricity company executives and shareholders have needy families too."

I lived and worked in Houston USA ~12 years ago and lived in a one bedroom 80 square metre apartment (3 different locations in 3.5 years) and the electricity bill was never less that US$ 100 a month despite changing the provider once to try to reduce it. I never used aircon (I cheated by benefiting from the aircon users in adjacent apartments beside, below and above me and the hallway which provided enough heating and cooling) and used energy saving lights. It was a rip-off.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 12:27pm:

They didn't mention that "Electricity company executives and shareholders have needy families too." I lived and worked in Houston USA ~12 years ago and lived in a one bedroom 80 square metre apartment (3 different locations in 3.5 years) and the electricity bill was never less that US$ 100 a month despite changing the provider once to try to reduce it. I never used aircon (I cheated by benefiting from the aircon users in adjacent apartments beside, below and above me and the hallway which provided enough heating and cooling) and used energy saving lights. It was a rip-off.

Only steers and queers come from Texas.

They will be paying even more now.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 12:27pm: They didn't mention that "Electricity company executives and shareholders have needy families too." I lived and worked in Houston USA ~12 years ago and lived in a one bedroom 80 square metre apartment (3 different locations in 3.5 years) and the electricity bill was never less that US$ 100 a month despite changing the provider once to try to reduce it. I never used aircon (I cheated by benefiting from the aircon users in adjacent apartments beside, below and above me and the hallway which provided enough heating and cooling) and used energy saving lights. It was a rip-off. Only steers and queers come from Texas. They will be paying even more now.

Bobby, your electricity provider has labeled its customers as steers and queers.

you're a bit slow Bobby ... this was announced months ago. Everyone's electricity is going up

I would not mind so much, given that my pay rate increased more than $1/hr. I also get more work hours. As long as I am not going crazy with electricity usage, I should still have $100/month electricity bills.

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 12:52pm:

you're a bit slow Bobby ... this was announced months ago. Everyone's electricity is going up

Hazelwood was a terrible power station.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazelwood_Power_Station

We should have a built another coal fired power station and used the
low emission Anthracite coal from Queensland to run it
to tide us over till renewables were fully operating.
I hope we don’t get blackouts?

I'm not eligible for any of the rebates:

https://www.energy.gov.au/government-priorities/energy-programs/energy-bill-relief-fund/eligible-cards-and-payments-energy-bill-relief-fund-households

Victoria

Eligible cards and payments for existing rebates in Victoria are:

    DVA Gold Cards
    Health Care Card
    Low Income Health Care Card
    Pensioner Concession Card.

If you hold one of these cards you are eligible for the existing Victorian Electricity concession scheme. 

Newly eligible cards and payments for bill relief in Victoria are:

    Carer Allowance
    Commonwealth Seniors Health Card
    Family Tax Benefit.

If you hold or receive one of these cards or payments you will be contacted by DVA from September to November 2023 or by Services Australia in September 2023 to tell you what you need to do.

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 12:52pm:

you're a bit slow Bobby ... this was announced months ago. Everyone's electricity is going up

Why?

CSIRO and AEMO’s GenCost 2021-22 report released today confirmed that wind and solar are the cheapest source of electricity generation and storage in Australia.

The report confirmed renewable energy sources will continue to be the cheapest sources of new electricity generation in Australia, although cost reductions could be impacted over the next 12 months due to inflationary pressures.

The report concluded that after the current inflationary cycle ends that wind, solar and batteries are all projected to keep getting cheaper still.
https://minister.dcceew.gov.au/bowen/media-releases/joint-media-release-renewables-cheapest-source-electricity

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Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 12:52pm: you're a bit slow Bobby ... this was announced months ago. Everyone's electricity is going up Hazelwood was a terrible power station. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazelwood_Power_Station We should have a built another coal fired power station and used the low emission Anthracite coal from Queensland to run it to tide us over till renewables were fully operating. I hope we don’t get blackouts?

Only an idiot would say that

See if you can guess why no one wants to pay to build a coal fired power station?

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 12:52pm: you're a bit slow Bobby ... this was announced months ago. Everyone's electricity is going up Why?

A decade of the libtards hamstringing renewables and pushing coal is why

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:40pm:

A decade of the libtards hamstringing renewables and pushing coal is why

So you don't believe in a free market? If the returns were there... they wouldn't have to be subsidised. ::)

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 1:06pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 12:52pm: you're a bit slow Bobby ... this was announced months ago. Everyone's electricity is going up Hazelwood was a terrible power station. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazelwood_Power_Station We should have a built another coal fired power station and used the low emission Anthracite coal from Queensland to run it to tide us over till renewables were fully operating. I hope we don’t get blackouts? Only an idiot would say that See if you can guess why no one wants to pay to build a coal fired power station?

It's a very intelligent idea.
It would have given us a buffer until renewables were fully installed and working properly.
Now we are in unknown territory.
China is building 100s of coal fire power stations - go figure?
We only needed one coal fired power station.

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:40pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 1:35pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 12:52pm: you're a bit slow Bobby ... this was announced months ago. Everyone's electricity is going up Why? A decade of the libtards hamstringing renewables and pushing coal is why

How much subsidy is paid to wind and solar? Who pays for that subsidy?  The consumers, through higher energy prices.  Energy prices were low and steady until the renewable subsidy craze started. There would be no investment in solar and wind without massive subsidies, paid by the consumers.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:45pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 1:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 1:06pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 12:52pm: you're a bit slow Bobby ... this was announced months ago. Everyone's electricity is going up Hazelwood was a terrible power station. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazelwood_Power_Station We should have a built another coal fired power station and used the low emission Anthracite coal from Queensland to run it to tide us over till renewables were fully operating. I hope we don’t get blackouts? Only an idiot would say that See if you can guess why no one wants to pay to build a coal fired power station? It's a very intelligent idea. It would have given us a buffer until renewables were fully installed and working properly. Now we are in unknown territory. China is building 100s of coal fire power stations - go figure? We only needed one coal fired power station.

Smith,
your idiotic ideas have given us higher prices and will give us power blackouts.

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:55pm:

How much subsidy is paid to wind and solar?

how much subsidy is paid to coal?


Quote:

Fossil fuel subsidies cost Australians a staggering $11.6 billion in 2021-22, an increase of $1.3 billion in the last year, according to new Australia Institute research.

opps
::)

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:45pm:

It's a very intelligent idea.

so intelligent that NONE of the traditional coal burning providers agreed with you

like i said, you're an idiot

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 2:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 1:55pm: How much subsidy is paid to wind and solar? how much subsidy is paid to coal? Quote: Fossil fuel subsidies cost Australians a staggering $11.6 billion in 2021-22, an increase of $1.3 billion in the last year, according to new Australia Institute research. opps ::)

In 2017:

On a per megawatt hour basis, solar received the largest subsidies with $214, followed by wind on $74, while other renewable sources received $33 per megawatt hour.
The report found subsidies to coal generation amounted to about 40 cents per megawatt hour, while generation from non-renewable sources overall were 30 cents per megawatt hour.
https://www.afr.com/politics/renewable-energy-subsidies-to-top-28b-a-year-up-to-2030-20170313-guwo3t


Oops indeed, thick-as Gino.

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 2:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 2:11pm: Frank wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 1:55pm: How much subsidy is paid to wind and solar? how much subsidy is paid to coal? Quote: Fossil fuel subsidies cost Australians a staggering $11.6 billion in 2021-22, an increase of $1.3 billion in the last year, according to new Australia Institute research. opps ::) In 2017: On a per megawatt hour basis, solar received the largest subsidies with $214, followed by wind on $74, while other renewable sources received $33 per megawatt hour. The report found subsidies to coal generation amounted to about 40 cents per megawatt hour, while generation from non-renewable sources overall were 30 cents per megawatt hour. https://www.afr.com/politics/renewable-energy-subsidies-to-top-28b-a-year-up-to-2030-20170313-guwo3t Oops indeed, thick-as Gino.

thats because subsidies to coal are diluted further because coal is still the largest slice of the pie ya dumbarse