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Member Run Boards >> Environment >> Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1688948388 Message started by Ajax on Jul 10th, 2023 at 10:19am |
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Title: Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change Post by Ajax on Jul 10th, 2023 at 10:19am
We are on track and why all because some computer program that cannot tell the weather in a week is forecasting the climate in a 100 hundred years.
These models have been proven wrong, ofcourse you donot hear that on MSM. There is no threat, look at cyclones, bushfires and yes even those cuddly polar bears. The info is there go and see for yourself or SUFFER what awaits all of us. The system works because we tow the line rememeber that. https://www.forbes.com/sites/worldeconomicforum/2016/11/10/shopping-i-cant-really-remember-what-that-is-or-how-differently-well-live-in-2030/?sh=64e6bdca1735 |
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Title: Re: Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change Post by Ajax on Jul 10th, 2023 at 10:33am
The other day went to coles they gave me my shopping in a paper bag.
So now we are chopping down more trees...??? |
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Title: Re: Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change Post by Frank on Jul 10th, 2023 at 10:44am
Geologist, Professor Ian Plimer, outlines the catastrophic consequences of Net Zero policies, in two and a half minutes:
"We have got this concept that human emissions of carbon dioxide drive global warming. That's never been shown... So the whole business of climate change is underpinned by an assumption." "On that assumption, we've speared the countryside with wind turbines and covered all this prime agricultural land with a solar panels... Here's the problem: The solar panels, and the turbine blades, are made in China. Once we decarbonise, and get rid of our gas and coal generation, then we're at the mercy of China." Source: https://watch.adh.tv/videos/save-the-nation-friday-28-october-2022 https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1677997192626204783 |
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Title: Re: Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change Post by Frank on Jul 10th, 2023 at 11:00am
Greenpeace co-founder, destroys the "climate emergency" myth in under two minutes:
"For the last 300 years, we have been in a slight warming period. It started 150 years before we even used any fossil fuels, or emitted any CO2…” https://twitter.com/LetsGoBrando45/status/1677689349419200512 |
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Title: Re: Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change Post by AusGeoff on Jul 11th, 2023 at 3:54am Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2023 at 10:44am:
An op-ed by Prof Ian Plimer in The Australian, which was condemned as blatantly false by climate scientists, has been found to have breached standards by the Australian Press Council. In November, his column titled ‘“Let’s not pollute minds with carbon fears” argued that there “are no carbon emissions. If there were, we could not see because most carbon is black. Such terms are deliberately misleading, as are many claims.” The article also referred to the “fraudulent changing of past weather records” and “unsubstantiated claims polar ice is melting”, as well as “the ignoring of data that shows Pacific islands and the Maldives are growing rather than being inundated”. In a lengthy adjudication the Oz was forced to publish on page two on Friday, the press council said the article contained inaccurate and misleading material in its claims that the Bureau of Meteorology had fraudulently changed weather records and that Plimer’s claims that there was no evidence polar ice was melting were misleading. The newspaper breached two of the general principles of reporting: ensuring factual material is accurate (principle 1) and ensuring facts are presented with reasonable fairness and balance and opinion is based on fact (principle 3). The council found that while it would have preferred Plimer’s links to the mining industry were disclosed in the column, The Australian did not breach guidelines in not disclosing because Plimer’s “past or present directorships of mining companies and advocacy in the debate around climate change were so well known” that it was not required. In reviewing the article last November, University of NSW professor Katrin Meissner wrote: “This article is an impressive collation of the well known, scientifically wrong, and overused denier arguments. It is ideologically motivated and, frankly, utter nonsense.” —Excerpted from The Guardian Australia, 24 July 2020. |
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Title: Re: Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change Post by Frank on Jul 11th, 2023 at 11:30am AusGeoff wrote on Jul 11th, 2023 at 3:54am:
There is no factual evidence for AGW. There is no 'carbon pollution', the shorthand expression is misleading and factually wrong. CO2 is not a pollutant. Anthropogenic CO2 does not change the climate. None of Palmer's specific points were countered by Meissner. As usual, a blanket, non-specific dismissal was applied, in direct contradiction of the AGW-mongers' demand for FACTUAL evidence to support their catastrophising claims. The Granuiad is "is an impressive collation of the well known, scientifically wrong, and overused arguments. It is ideologically motivated propaganda organ and, frankly, utter nonsense.” |
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Title: Re: Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change Post by Ajax on Jul 11th, 2023 at 9:03pm
There are more climatologists that disagree with the doomsday scenario than what there is preaching it.
1/3 preach it because they are on the gravy train. 2/3 disagree but never get any air time on MSM. |
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Title: Re: Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change Post by AusGeoff on Jul 12th, 2023 at 12:27am Ajax wrote on Jul 11th, 2023 at 9:03pm:
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Not so... The American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) 'What We Know' site states: "Based on the evidence, about 97 percent of climate scientists agree that human-caused climate change is happening." These scientific organizations have not issued statements in a void; they echo the findings of individual papers published in refereed scientific journals. The Institute for Scientific Information (ISI) maintains a database of over 8,500 peer-reviewed science journals, and multiple studies of this database show evidence of overwhelming agreement among climate scientists. The American Meteorological Society (AMS) issued this position statement: "Scientific evidence indicates that the leading cause of climate change in the most recent half century is the anthropogenic increase in the concentration of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, tropospheric ozone, and nitrous oxide." (Adopted April 15, 2019) https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/isnt-there-lot-disagreement-among-climate-scientists-about-global-warming |
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Title: Re: Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change Post by lee on Jul 12th, 2023 at 1:22pm AusGeoff wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 12:27am:
The old 97%. ::) ::) ::) ::) Cook et al 2013. You can still read the abstracts at the SkepSci website. https://skepticalscience.com/tcp.php?t=search&s=a&a=&c=&e=1&yf=1991&yt=2011 A total of 65 papers (according to them), out of 11,000 odd pages, said AGW was more than 50%. ::) 934 papers apparently said there was some AGW And 2934 didn't actually say they endorsed AGW, but the researchers thought they meant to... or something. ::) |
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Title: Re: Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change Post by Frank on Jul 12th, 2023 at 1:45pm AusGeoff wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 12:27am:
Oh, scientific consensus! In 1952, the American Psychiatry Association (APA) Committee on Nomenclature and Statistics developed the first version of the DSM, which served as the first manual of mental health focused on clinical diagnoses and care and provided a glossary and description of psychiatric illnesses. The category of sociopathic personality disturbance included subcategories, such as antisocial reaction, sexual deviation, and addiction. Sexual deviation included different types of behavior classified as pathologic, including “homosexuality, transvestism, pedophilia, fetishism, and sexual sadism including rape, sexual assault, mutilation”. Given the current societal acceptance of homosexuality in many countries—and while it may be difficult to imagine today that homosexuality truly fits into “pathologic behavior”—it is important to understand that inclusion of homosexuality in the DSM served to move same-sex sexual behavior from being regarded as a moral sin and into the secular world of medicine by recognizing it not as a sin but instead as a disorder. https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.ajp-rj.2022.180103 The science said it wasnt a sin but a disorder. Now it's not a disorder but a source of pride. Next it will be compulsory. But it's all science, innit. |
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Title: Re: Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change Post by AusGeoff on Jul 13th, 2023 at 2:54am Frank wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 1:45pm:
Any reference to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) is pointless and a faulty analogy. You're citing clinical science from 70 years past, without acknowledging just how much the sciences, including climatology, have advanced during that period. So... do you disagree with the claim that "97 percent of climate scientists agree that human-caused climate change is happening"? And if so why? |
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Title: Re: Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change Post by Ajax on Jul 13th, 2023 at 4:58pm AusGeoff wrote on Jul 12th, 2023 at 12:27am:
97% consensus explained. https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1689117382 |
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Title: Re: Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change Post by lee on Jul 20th, 2023 at 4:04pm
In Europe - The 48C that wasn't.
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https://notrickszone.com/2023/07/19/europes-48c-horror-that-never-was-esa-media-sharply-criticized-for-manipulative-reporting/ Of course there are those quick to promote it as AGW. ::) |
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Title: Re: Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change Post by lee on Jul 21st, 2023 at 5:49pm
So what is it with this CO2 theory of AGW, that the only warming occurs with an El Nino. And they are naturally occurring. ::)
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Title: Re: Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change Post by Frank on Jul 31st, 2023 at 11:48am
Some peopleo thers have used the intense summer heat to make ridiculous statements. On this score it’s a competition between Hillary Clinton and UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres. The former US secretary of state last week blamed “MAGA Republicans” for the heatwave. “Hot enough for you? Thank a MAGA Republican. Or better yet, vote them out of office,” she said on social media, linking to a tweet that attacked Republicans for not supporting the Inflation Reduction Act.
Meanwhile, Guterres said at a press conference in New York that “the era of global warming has ended; the era of global boiling has arrived”, declaring climate change “here and terrifying”. The two statements were stupid in their own ways. Clinton was trying to politicise the weather, something no government can control over any measurable time frame. Guterres was simply being hysterical, seeking to use fear to garner political support for more “climate action”, which not coincidentally means more power for governments and “experts”. A 2021 survey of 10,000 young people aged 16 to 25 across wealthy nations – the next generation of leaders – found 59 per cent were “extremely worried” to the point that 45 per cent said climate change affected their “daily life and functioning”, according to the Lancet. These two comments came as scientists had confirmed July was the hottest month ever recorded in 120,000 years of history, according to the Scientific Americ an and a deluge of media articles. That reliable measures only go back a little over a century doesn’t seem to matter. Even assuming the “global temperature” can be measured accurately, an average taken over three weeks is meaningless. Indeed, a quick internet search suggests the 1936 heatwave in the US, which killed thousands of people, was at least as bad, and lasted longer. Government institutions as much as the media are to blame for this propaganda victory, increasingly starved of alternative voices to report on and biased published data. Earlier this month the International Monetary Fund quietly disinvited John Clauser, an American scientist who won the 2022 Nobel prize for physics, from giving a presentation on July 25 about climate change models. From the perspective of climate alarmists it’s not hard to see why. Some junior bureaucrats must have alerted the organisers to Clauser’s sacrilege of a few weeks earlier at Quantum Korea, a science conference in Seoul. In his keynote address he told an audience of budding scientists the world was “awash with pseudoscience”. Then he committed a cardinal sin. “I can confidently say there is no real climate crisis, and that climate change does not cause extreme weather events.” “The IPCC is one of the worst sources of dangerous disinformation,” said Clauser, who won the Nobel prize “for experiments with entangled photons, establishing the violation of Bell inequalities and pioneering quantum information science”. I suppose he – unlike Greta Thunberg, who is feted by global institutions – is not a proper climate expert. Similarly, the US Environmental Protection Agency on its website shows charts indicating the frequency, duration and intensity of heatwaves in the US have been increasingly steadily since the 1960s. If it was a UN event, perhaps one could understand, given the IPCC is ultimately a United Nations body. But the IMF is independent of the UN, suggesting the cancellation was another pathetic example of censorship by a supposedly intellectual institution stuffed with PhD graduates. But dig a little deeper on the website and one finds a “Heat Wave Index” going back to 1895, which clearly shows the heatwaves were more common before the 1960s, especially in the 1930s, before human-induced climate change was even considered. These two recent examples of bias and censorship in relation to climate change merely pave the way for stupid statements by senior political figures. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/experts-feel-the-heat-of-latest-climate-panic/news-story/a949fbf8e3499a68532a85931cbc5fef |
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Title: Re: Wake up to this pseudo manmade climate change Post by AusGeoff on Aug 1st, 2023 at 1:59am Frank wrote on Jul 31st, 2023 at 11:48am:
https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/andrew-bolt/what-kind-of-idiot-thinks-that-hillary-clinton-blames-republicans-for-us-heatwave/video/11bfe675c0ba0e6eedec5a60d8048085 ::) |
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