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General Discussion >> Aboriginal Affairs >> Welcome to my land http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1687931829 Message started by Gordon on Jun 28th, 2023 at 3:57pm |
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Title: Welcome to my land Post by Gordon on Jun 28th, 2023 at 3:57pm |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Frank on Jun 28th, 2023 at 4:34pm Gordon wrote on Jun 28th, 2023 at 3:57pm:
The Voice to parliament will make them see the error of their ways as the lack of such a voice is OBVIOUSLY the reason for they situation. It has absolutely nuffin' to do wiv buying grog when genocidal, colonialist white supremacist racist Liquorland opens in the morning. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Gordon on Jun 28th, 2023 at 4:38pm
Tiktok is full of Abos drinking.
I wonder why they like to portray themselves like that? |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Gordon on Jun 28th, 2023 at 4:40pm |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Brian Ross on Jun 29th, 2023 at 2:04pm
How Culture A used to be ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 29th, 2023 at 2:10pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29th, 2023 at 2:04pm:
You didn't read the title of that pic did you... ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 29th, 2023 at 2:15pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29th, 2023 at 2:04pm:
Oh, yeah. Back in the 1700s and 1800s when the labour laws were not in place to protect people from slave like conditions. Versus today where an ethnicity, with all the modern conveniences available, has the time and money to drink alcohol. I think I feel sorry for the enslaved 19th century Europeans. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 29th, 2023 at 2:22pm
Real Australians have repossessed Chez Gordon and allowed Gordon to escape to the bush with his tribe.
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 29th, 2023 at 2:24pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29th, 2023 at 2:15pm:
You should take pity on your own state of wretchedness. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 29th, 2023 at 2:28pm
Gordon, there's a little black fella here to see you... ;D
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 29th, 2023 at 2:48pm Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 29th, 2023 at 2:28pm:
That little black fella LTYCrap is nothing more than a shared multi troll Mong fake id from Monk’s Manure Mound. Just think of it as trash. Kick it around and out of your way. It’s not a real ID remember...just a fake troll SHARED id that’s clinically insane so it will come back to be kicked around some more. Enjoy kicking it’s arse around. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 29th, 2023 at 3:22pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 29th, 2023 at 2:24pm:
Oh! Oh! Oh! My ancestors escaped Industrialised Europe where the workers there were downtrodden by enslavement type work. I demand thegreatdivide compensate me and my family for the psychological damage done to my ancestors for not accepting my great-great grandparents as part of Australia. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Brian Ross on Jun 29th, 2023 at 3:37pm Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 29th, 2023 at 2:10pm:
"Gin Lane" - it was a warning about the dangers of easily available and cheap Gin at the turn of the 19th century in London, Unsub. I was aware of the cartoon since the mid-1980s, so how didn't I read the title? Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 29th, 2023 at 3:47pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29th, 2023 at 3:37pm:
I was not questioning you about this. I only noticed this when Captain Caveman pointed this out. So, what lead to this form of alcoholism in this part of the world? Was it the loss of land? Was it the dispossession of culture? Were the children removed from their families? Or maybe it was the denial of their rights and the forced labour at low pay that led these people to take to the drink to be able to cope with the conditions they endured. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Frank on Jun 29th, 2023 at 4:47pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29th, 2023 at 3:37pm:
You 'forgot' to post its companion piece, Beer Street, sneaky cockwomble. https://www.royalacademy.org.uk/art-artists/work-of-art/beer-street-1 Or that Culture A invented the steam engine and industrial revolution around the same time while Culture B couldn't even boil water. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Brian Ross on Jun 29th, 2023 at 5:04pm Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2023 at 4:47pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, really? Was Charles Sturt lying when he recorded Indigenous people preparing wild rice? Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Frank on Jun 29th, 2023 at 5:18pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29th, 2023 at 5:04pm:
Using European utensils. They broil indiscriminately all substances which they eat. Though they boil water in small quantities in oyster shells for particular purposes, they never conceived it possible until shown by us, to dress meat by this method, having no vessel capable of containing a fish or a bird which would stand fire. Two of them once stole twelve pounds of rice and carried it off. They knew how we cooked it, and by way of putting it in practice they spread the rice on the ground before a fire, and as it grew hot continued to throw water on it. Their ingenuity was however very ill rewarded, for the rice became so mingled with the dirt and sand on which it was laid, that even they could not eat it, and the whole was spoiled.] https://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks/e00084.txt |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Brian Ross on Jun 29th, 2023 at 5:46pm Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2023 at 5:18pm:
That is one version of events. Indigenous people often boiled water using fresh leaves and wood coolabahs, Soren. Just goes to show how little you know or understand Indigenous peoples' culture. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Setanta on Jun 29th, 2023 at 6:31pm
This is how you boil water if your only tools are fire and stone. Skin a roo, scrape then tan it's skin with ashes. Use stick to let the skins/wood make a bowl like a reverse teepee., fill with water, heat stones on fire put them in water, add rice. I wonder if they worked that out. I would hope they did.
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Brian Ross on Jun 29th, 2023 at 8:38pm Quote:
[url=https://www.australiancurriculum.edu.au/TeacherBackgroundInfo?id=56602]Source[/url] Quote:
[url=https://www.sbs.com.au/food/article/2013/05/31/utensils-native-australian]Source[/url] Both were found after a five minute Google. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Frank on Jun 29th, 2023 at 9:57pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29th, 2023 at 8:38pm:
[url=https://www.sbs.com.au/food/article/2013/05/31/utensils-native-australian]Source[/url] Both were found after a five minute Google. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)[/quote] https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/s/Steam_engine.htm |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by The Grappler on Jun 29th, 2023 at 10:48pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29th, 2023 at 8:38pm:
[url=https://www.sbs.com.au/food/article/2013/05/31/utensils-native-australian]Source[/url] Both were found after a five minute Google. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)[/quote] Absolutely amazing! So the first inventors (LMAO) worked out that you could boil water in a seashell and that hot air rises? I'm astounded!!! If that's right - that last - why is Canberra not higher than Mt Kosciusko, smarty-pants? AND the crafty buggars learned how to winnow seeds from chaff!!! The bastards.... snuck another one up on us all, eh? |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by John Smith on Jun 30th, 2023 at 8:17am UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29th, 2023 at 3:22pm:
go make your claim in Europe. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 30th, 2023 at 8:23am John Smith wrote on Jun 30th, 2023 at 8:17am:
Oh, but thegreatdivide won't share with me my land that has been in my possession ever since my great-great grandparents arrived here in the late 1800s. The very least he could do is let me have half his pay and let me convalesce from this psychological trauma. After all, my countrymen did invite his ancestors to become citizens of this country. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by John Smith on Jun 30th, 2023 at 8:26am UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 30th, 2023 at 8:23am:
come back to me in 60 000 years. Until then, keep bludging |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 30th, 2023 at 8:27am John Smith wrote on Jun 30th, 2023 at 8:26am:
Thanks man. I will do as you ask and keep bludging. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by John Smith on Jun 30th, 2023 at 8:32am UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 30th, 2023 at 8:27am:
Off that I have no doubt |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 30th, 2023 at 8:41am John Smith wrote on Jun 30th, 2023 at 8:32am:
Ah-ah-ahhh! We agreed not to interact until June 30th, 62,023, at 8:26am. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by John Smith on Jun 30th, 2023 at 1:44pm
just another thing you got wrong
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 30th, 2023 at 1:57pm John Smith wrote on Jun 30th, 2023 at 8:26am:
Rocky did you read that? Five Foot Five Frodo’s last drug fried brain cell has told everyone what it believes - he’s going to be around in 60 000 yrs 😂🤣😆 |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by The Heartless Felon on Jun 30th, 2023 at 2:58pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 30th, 2023 at 1:57pm:
Now,now, Lisa. Don't you know that John's immortal? He must be: he's never died... |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by John Smith on Jun 30th, 2023 at 3:24pm The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 30th, 2023 at 2:58pm:
live long and prosper :D |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 30th, 2023 at 4:02pm John Smith wrote on Jun 30th, 2023 at 1:44pm:
You said "come back to me in 60 000 years". Did you mean that we should not make contact for the next 60,000 years? Or did you mean not talking about this topic for another 60,000 years? |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 30th, 2023 at 4:04pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 30th, 2023 at 1:57pm:
The literal interpretation is that John and I are going to meet up and discuss this issue in 60,000 years. In other news, John has no doubt that I am allowed to continue to bludge. Perhaps John wants to pay for my living over these next 60,000 years. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 30th, 2023 at 4:06pm John Smith wrote on Jun 30th, 2023 at 3:24pm:
John is a Highlander immortal. The only thing that could kill him is if he loses his head. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by John Smith on Jun 30th, 2023 at 4:08pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 30th, 2023 at 4:02pm:
I meant come back to me in 60000 years |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 30th, 2023 at 4:25pm John Smith wrote on Jun 30th, 2023 at 4:08pm:
Sounds like you don't want to talk to me for the next 60,000 years. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 1st, 2023 at 11:07am The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 30th, 2023 at 2:58pm:
Ha! Frodo is not IMMORTAL he’s IMMORAL. The extra T that’s left over is for Turd 💩 😂🤣😆 |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by The Grappler on Jul 1st, 2023 at 11:42am
Anyway - this 60,000 years is irrelevant for the times they have a changed in .... rules are different.... the primitive way of bashing someone who disagrees with you no longer has currency and as a civilised race we are supposed to be way beyond that by now.
The rules on land ownership have changed and now is the time for all to be brought under one law to bind them all and not this free-for-all that existed pre 1788, wherein any group of nomads could lay claim to a swathe of land and wipe out or partially absorb existing inhabitants and then defend it against any other intruders arriving just like themselves and seeking to take control of it for nomadic purposes. Therefore land rights are now dead and extinct and all must abide by the same laws. Same with interpersonal relations - it is no longer a right of anyone to physically beat someone else to 'put them in their place'... that is the way of the primitive and we are supposed to be a civilised culture operating under one law to bind them all... not separate laws for every tiny group that persists with bashing people into line Mayo style. That very serious problem has pervaded in this convict colony nation for far too long now, from many sides of this society, and has been the cause of many terrible wrongs, not least of which is massive injustice in the legal system based on some system of 'class' - courts being a way to bash the peasants into their place from around 1788 to somewhere in the 21st Century when they began to depart from their darkness of adhering to the mythical idea that any complaint was somehow valid regardless of facts and realities. (Look what they did to Ned Kelly). Look how many idiots to this day persist with the idea that they have some inalienable right to bash someone who disagrees with them and that they possess the right to shove their ideas on others by demand and force and menace. This is a sign of savage dysfunctionality in any society, group, culture or individual, and that includes families. That includes feminists, BLM, trans activists, climate activists, Indigenous activists, and so forth unto forever.... You all need to look very carefully at your current set of 'activist' groups for this kind of social disease, and then proceed to root it out wherever its evil lies. Welcome To MY Land!! The Land Of The Future! .... the future that was starting to look good until the activist groups came along in their fine raiment of luxury of the West and started to dismantle Rights to suit their own childish schoolyard agendas ... and you all know who started that off..... the feminists. this joint has never looked up since......... 8-) |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by John Smith on Jul 1st, 2023 at 2:12pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 30th, 2023 at 4:25pm:
I should be so lucky :D |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by John Smith on Jul 1st, 2023 at 2:13pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 1st, 2023 at 11:42am:
who's rules? What gives you any right to impose your rules on anyone? |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Frank on Jul 1st, 2023 at 2:40pm John Smith wrote on Jul 1st, 2023 at 2:13pm:
The rules of the Commonwealth of Australia. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by The Grappler on Jul 1st, 2023 at 8:28pm
Well - you can always have the rules of a civilised society or the rules of a jungle where any group wandering through might set upon the inhabitants and wipe them out root and branch in order to claim their land as their land, like the Aborigines before Civilisation Day, even though all they ever do is wander over it in search of something to eat.
You thrive in the civilised society..... in your Utopia you would be desperately defending home and hearth from every other group and living a short and bloody life while trying to do so. By contrast the White Man carried out punitive actions against the groups which just plain thought their old ways would be sufficient to keep 'their land' - that they stole from the previous tenants anyway ... Now the rules are - if you want land you buy it... so start the chook raffles all you Indigenous ... No more one rule for the majority and a special dispensation for some. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 12:16am John Smith wrote on Jul 1st, 2023 at 2:12pm:
So, you DO want to talk to me for the next 60,000 years? |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by John Smith on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 6:38pm Frank wrote on Jul 1st, 2023 at 2:40pm:
Did the Commonwealth ask the original owners what they thought of the rules before imposing them on them? |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Frank on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 6:50pm John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 6:38pm:
There were no original owners. There was no sovereign power in Australia before 1788. There was nobody to ask, to negotiate with or make a treaty with. Even now, there is no Aboeiginal sovereignty or anything even remotely approximating it. Who would you ask now to get a definitive answer about what Aborigines want? The 24 stooges appointed to the Voice, to speak for the hundreds of tribes and thousands of mixed race permutations? Stan Grant? Burney? Pascoe? Who? |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by John Smith on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 6:54pm Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 6:50pm:
They had their system. That it wasn't agreeable to you is irrelevant. Nor does it matter that you don't like, understand or agree with their system. You come to my house you follow my rules or you can fuck off. Your rules are for your house. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 8:19pm John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 6:54pm:
1. Irrelevant. 2. That’s not what happened to your Aboriginal people Five Foot Frodo Fruitloop. Your people were conquered. CONQUERED. It’s been happening since time immemorial. Countries conquer other countries. Those who are conquered accept the conqueror’s laws and languages and culture. See how uneducated and ignorant you STILL are? What a shame you never finished primary school. All that bludging and drug taking you did instead has left you in next level ignorance. In fact this is why you were the joke of Yahoo and why you’re the joke of OzPol irrespective of which TROLL or TROLLop ID you hide your grubby face behind. 3. Oh and now you’re showing your hypocrisy, insanity, inanity and tosspottery. YOU’RE here on Freediver’s online house ie forum along with your nutter boyfriend Dumbarse Demented Drunk all the time and you never follow Freediver’s rules so how about you take your own advice and f@rkkk off back to your online manure mound full of multi moles. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by The Grappler on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 8:45pm Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 6:50pm:
1140 separate languages and dialects..... easy as pie... |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Frank on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 9:41pm John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 6:54pm:
What system was that? What were their rules? You have no ****ing idea, bozo, like you have no idea about anything. You are just a mousy, mouthy, swarthy git with nothing other than "yeah, but". Go and concrete something, ya ridiculous little swarthy bozo. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by John Smith on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 9:47pm
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 9:54pm John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 9:47pm:
1. Only to an ignorant idiot tosspot like you. 2. Irrelevant. 3. You CAN’T steal FD’s forum. That’s why you pathetically troll here 24/7 under a number of ids instead. Yes...you exist here for OUR entertainment. You are the forum clown and Freediver’s and the rest of us pwn your drugged arse at every chance because that is why Freediver allows you to be here. The problem for you Five Foot Abo Frodo is your last drug fried brain cell is too far gone to figure it out. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by John Smith on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 9:56pm
How typical of sore end to go back to dumb comments about concrete as if that's going to hide his stupidy :D
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Frank on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 9:58pm John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 9:56pm:
Ok, DON'T concrete anything, you ridiculous little swarthy bozo. |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by John Smith on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 10:04pm Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 9:58pm:
Run away bitch ;D |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Frank on Dec 10th, 2025 at 4:16pm
Australian farmers describe their connection to their land, highlight the biggest change they've seen in farming, and imagine food production in 2085.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2015-05-12/on-the-farm-in-70-years-farmer-predictions-2085/6538152 |
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Title: Re: Welcome to my land Post by Jasin on Dec 10th, 2025 at 4:37pm
White people have spiritual connection to land.
Why are they not recognised? Especially when they feed more people than the efforts of the Aborigines |
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