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General Discussion >> Chat >> Free speech has gone: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1686447228 Message started by Bobby. on Jun 11th, 2023 at 11:33am |
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Title: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 11th, 2023 at 11:33am
A great video from Rowan Atkinson.
9 minutes: 2,980,928 views May 31, 2023 The Christian Institute spearheaded the Reform Section 5 campaign to get the word ‘insulting’ removed from Section 5 of the Public Order Act, as part of the Crime and Courts Bill. After a lengthy campaign, which included support from celebrities including Rowan Atkinson and Stephen Fry, the then Home Secretary Theresa May eventually agreed. The change is now incorporated in Section 57 of the Crime and Courts Act 2013 which came into force on 1 February 2014. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUezfuy8Qpc |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 11th, 2023 at 12:10pm
Seems like we have the same laws in Australia.
You can be charged if you say something that might offend someone - that could even be reading a few lines from the Bible that either someone doesn't like or that someone is offended by or a cop thinks that someone might be offended by. Finally - communism has won the cold war. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 11th, 2023 at 12:45pm
I got caught up in a false allegation being made against me over something that I did not say. Someone recorded a phone call of mine and then redacted the phone call to contradict what I said. When I finally found out what the issue was, I told the accuser that it was not what I had said. It took 12 years before I was cleared of any wrong doing. The phone company had to go into the archives of the phone calls to reveal that I had said something genuinely innocent. The accuser was then made subject to the law for fraud.
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:11pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 12:10pm:
Isn't it more like Authoritarianism ? |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by freediver on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:39pm
The "progressives" are trying to silence people, while the church is standing up for freedom of speech.
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:43pm freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:39pm:
The progressives are mostly cultural Marxists. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:48pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 11:33am:
9 minutes of my time is not free. Nonsense is free as demonstrated by the arguments in this string. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 11th, 2023 at 6:50pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 12:45pm:
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Find it difficult to believe that phone companies record all phone calls like this. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 11th, 2023 at 6:52pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:43pm:
I doubt that this stupidity has anything to do with progressives and there is no such thing as cultural marxism. Sometimes stupid people do not come with a label. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by freediver on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:01pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 6:52pm:
What would you call them? |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:02pm freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:01pm:
Idiots. Is the claim its progressive because it is woke legislation ? |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by freediver on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:04pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:02pm:
You say that like they are mutually exclusive. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:11pm freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:04pm:
Not when one half of the options were ruled out as it is more authoritarian in nature Is the claim its progressive because it is woke legislation ? |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:17pm
https://www.conservapedia.com/Cultural_Marxism
Cultural Marxism - it can't stand for free speech. Antonio Gramsci Cultural Marxism is a branch of Marxist ideology formulated by the Frankfurt School, which had its origins the early part of the twentieth century. Cultural Marxism comprises much of the foundation of political correctness. It emerged as a response of European Marxist intellectuals disillusioned by the early political failures of conventional economic Marxist ideology.[1] The central idea of Cultural Marxism is to soften up and prepare Western Civilization for economic Marxism after a gradual, relentless, sustained attack on every institution of Western culture,[2] including schools,[3] literature, art, film, the Judeo-Christian worldview, tradition, marriage and the family,[4] sexual mores, national sovereignty, etc.[5] The attacks are usually framed in Marxist terms as a class struggle between oppressors and oppressed; the members of the latter class allegedly include women, minorities, homosexuals, and adherents of non-Western ideologies such as Islam. Cultural Marxism has been described as "the cultural branch of globalism."[6] While Marx's Communist Manifesto focused on the alleged class struggle between bourgeois (owners of the means of production) and proletariat (workers), Marx did address culture, which he intimated would change after his economic vision was implemented. Patrick Buchanan argues that Cultural Marxism succeeded where Marx failed.[7] Marxism has permeated the American Left.[8] |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:29pm Quote:
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:34pm
Are we talking about leftist woke progressive ideology here ?
Or can we agree that it is more Authoritarian in nature ? |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Belgarion on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:36pm
Any so called 'progressives' care to comment on the content of Atkinson's speech?
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:36pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:34pm:
It's about Marxist progressives having the law uphold their views. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:49pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:36pm:
You do know that the legislation was implemented under the UK 's greatest ever marxist progressive leader in 1986 - Margaret Thatcher right ? Now can you remind me why a anti progressive ultra authoritarian leader would be implementing Marxist progressive policy? Thatcherism was a Authoritarian Populist movement. Not sure how you get from there to woke leftist policy. Woops. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:54pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:49pm:
What we're seeing now has nothing to do with right wing Thatcher. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 11th, 2023 at 9:50pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:54pm:
Then why did you post the video in the lead post about Rowan Atkinson. fighting to change Thatcher's policy ? Your whole topic is based on it. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 11th, 2023 at 10:27pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 9:50pm:
It's got much worse under the progressive left wing politicians. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Marla on Jun 12th, 2023 at 6:36am freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:39pm:
Like say a Muslim church? |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2023 at 6:12pm Marla wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 6:36am:
Marla - you changed your profile info to hide your Marxism but it was recorded: Marla_is_a_Marxist.jpg (33 KB | 16
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12th, 2023 at 6:45pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 6:12pm:
Does anyone else find it disturbing that Bobby keeps a dossier on everyone in this forum? |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by freediver on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:03pm Marla wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 6:36am:
No. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by freediver on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:04pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:11pm:
Yeah. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:05pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 6:45pm:
Only on communists. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:09pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 10:27pm:
Once it is in legislation the courts and police manage it. nothing to do with the politicians. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:10pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:09pm:
You mean Dan's thugs? |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:11pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:05pm:
There hasn't been a serious communist in the western world in at least 5 decades. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:13pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:11pm:
They are all around us: Democrats in the USA are all cultural Marxists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KOxSWwQ3AI Updated list of Ozpolitic Cultural Marxists: LTYC, FTLW, Monk, possible leader Smith, Greggy, Mothra, Athos, AiA, Jim, Random, Marla, Dnarever. Brian? |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:15pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:10pm:
Your video was about Rowan Atkinson having changes made to Thatcher legislation from 1986 in the UK. How does this relate to Dan ? |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:16pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:13pm:
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Rubbish cultural marxism isn't a thing, just a right wing conspiracy theory. Over 80% of Democrats in the US are corporate democrats. On matters of economy they are the same as US republicans. They are market capitalists. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:17pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:15pm:
Dan is a Marxist - he supports trannys. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:19pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:16pm:
Bullshit - we've got one here who openly admits it and that's why they're on the list: |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:21pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:17pm:
Supporting people who do not live a more standard life style does not point to any particular political leaning. Historically Marxism and communism have been less understanding of LGBT than most others. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:23pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:19pm:
The cultural bit is missing and she was likely pulling your chain. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:40pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:21pm:
https://nybreaking.com/dan-andrews-hosts-a-drag-queen-storytime-event-for-kids-at-victorias-parliament-house/ Daniel Andrews hosts a transvestite story for children at Parliament House – after fears of violence forced libraries to close Victorian government organized drag queen story time Libraries cancel similar events for fear of violence Daniel Andrews has organized a drag queen story event for children at Parliament House to mark the International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia and Transphobia. Young children sat on the floor and on their mothers’ laps on Wednesday as transvestites read children’s books. Mr Andrews was seen smiling as he watched. Drag queens read books to young children while sitting on the floor of Parliament House (pictured) |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:41pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:23pm:
What about Greggy? he has expensive hard cover copies of 3 of the Books from Karl Marx which he keeps at his bedside. :-[ |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 12th, 2023 at 8:07pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:41pm:
What about Greggy? he has expensive hard cover copies of 3 of the Books from Karl Marx which he keeps at his bedside. :-[/quote] I once read a Marx book. It was very boring and didn't convince me about communism. It didn't even try to. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 12th, 2023 at 8:18pm Quote:
You do know that it is the right that is banning books ? And that it is the right Authoritarians who do typically undermine free speech ? |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by The Grappler on Jun 13th, 2023 at 12:04am Dnarever wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:11pm:
Is there a difference? |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by The Grappler on Jun 13th, 2023 at 12:09am
Just part of the reign of terror which is part and parcel of The Eternal Civil War Between People And Government... a flow-on in philosophy at Grappler U - the REAL U ... from The Divine Right Of Elected Government concept....
You'll all learn some day in one lifetime or another..... all must steadily progress to the light .... you are welcome, grasshoppers and no-hopers..... |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by The Grappler on Jun 13th, 2023 at 12:11am Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:36pm:
.... at gunpoint ....... and there's your problem...... when you violate people to impose your view you are committing the offence.... and the body of natural justice grinds slowly but it grinds true ...... So you don't like someone's religion - so walk on, turkey.... so you don't like someone saying that transgender is all in the head just like bigotry and racism etc - so walk on, turkey ... so you don't like someone disagreeing with the voice - so walk on, turkey..... Grow up and get a life..... |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by freediver on Jun 13th, 2023 at 6:48am Dnarever wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 8:18pm:
That is the lesson from history. Today, the world has flipped on it's head. The "left" is trying to silence people for criticising religion, opposing the death penalty for homosexuality, standing up for personal freedoms etc. The left has adopted a religion that is as close as it gets to Nazism. They have also adopted the only political ideology responsible for more deaths than Nazism. The left is also currently trying to rebrand racism to improve its image. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 13th, 2023 at 12:56pm
An agorot for your thoughts.
The two biggest gum flappers Gordon and Bobby have silenced themselves and frogmarched each other to concealment in a place where their voices are muffled and their pathetic wretched thoughts are nobbled. Bobby enriched himself with agorots by shilling for others. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by buzzanddidj on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:16pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:43pm:
ACTUALLY, the true definition and dictionary defines them as "advocates of progress" I'm happy with that. But don't worry, it's something almost the entire right of politics usually get wrong. . |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by buzzanddidj on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:24pm freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2023 at 6:48am:
WHAT A BIZZARE AND UNSTABLE RANT |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:29pm buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:16pm:
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1660808671/330 Democrats in the USA are all cultural Marxists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KOxSWwQ3AI Updated list of Ozpolitic Cultural Marxists: LTYC, FTLW, Monk, possible leader Smith, Greggy, Mothra, Athos, AiA, Jim, Random, Marla, Dnarever. Brian? |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:38pm
US Democrats are quite right wing.
Cultural Marxism is not a thing. I am not a marxist, never have been. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:44pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
Sure comrade ;) |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:47pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
Correct. The corporate Democrats (the majority of them) are centre right at the minimum. I joke about being a Groucho Marxist, movies are cultural. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Dnarever on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:49pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:44pm:
The only person I didn't object to calling me comrade was Gough Whitlam, I let him get away with it. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:49pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 6:12pm:
That you copied and downloaded to your hard drive Marla’s previous avatar and text and posted it at least twice strikes me as immensely creepy. It is doxxing and you do A LOT of doxxing! Time it was stopped! It is also theft and you do a lot of that too! |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:59pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:49pm:
Yeah, Gough always started speeches to the Party faithful that way. I saw Whitlam and Dunstan leave some function, state conference or some such—the difference in.body size was immense and comic. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:59pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:49pm:
I will continue to provide evidence of Marxism without fear or permission from you - comrade. You remove right wing posts from your dump of a forum. You ban right wing posters from your Cats, Critters & Dicks MRB here. Free speech has gone. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 18th, 2023 at 7:13pm
You have, as always, not a shred of evidence for your allegations!
You are, basically, just trolling. You are also very creepy. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 18th, 2023 at 7:19pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 18th, 2023 at 7:13pm:
Your MRB https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1611732194/0#0 Quote:
All posters with right wing ideas. Monk is censoring right wing views because he's a Marxist. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 18th, 2023 at 7:32pm
Gordon got really foul
Baron is an idiot who continued to use the word “Mong” in my MRB tho having had a previous ban for it. I can’t help idiots but I do not have to put up with them in my board. lee would argue some point about about AGW 10, 12 times. I have no time for that sort of idiot. You are a thief and blackmailer and tried it just once to often. I guess it all amounts to the political right being arrogant arseholes, thieves, doxxers and creeps. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 18th, 2023 at 7:34pm Quote:
Actually the list is of idiots, creeps and the hard of learning. Seems that describes the political right to a “T.” Your statement is just that, an illogical statement and quite wrong. I am not a Marxist, never was. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 18th, 2023 at 7:50pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 18th, 2023 at 7:32pm:
You're a cry baby Democrat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KOxSWwQ3AI |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 18th, 2023 at 7:53pm
Make up that couple of ounces of grey matter that houses what in normal people would be their mind.
I am not a Marxist, never have been. You are a troll, a doxxer and a thief and are a creep with it. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 18th, 2023 at 8:08pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 18th, 2023 at 7:53pm:
Your trial continues: https://www.polanimal.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=93&p=331721#p331721 |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 18th, 2023 at 8:15pm
LOL, the sewer with only idiots like you occasionally posting.
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by buzzanddidj on Jun 19th, 2023 at 7:20pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
It's a term picked up by watching SKYTV NEWS ... as is 'woke' |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 20th, 2023 at 10:55am Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 18th, 2023 at 6:49pm:
That you copied and downloaded to your hard drive Marla’s previous avatar and text and posted it at least twice strikes me as immensely creepy. It is doxxing and you do A LOT of doxxing! Time it was stopped! It is also theft and you do a lot of that too! Bump |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by The Grappler on Jun 22nd, 2023 at 9:10am
I'm a Groucho Marxist myself - chatting with a couple about ... Da Voice .... and I sang:- "Whatever it is, I'm against it!".
So on the money that song...... |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Brian Ross on Jun 22nd, 2023 at 5:34pm
Australians have never enjoyed a right to Freedom of Speech. Throughout our history Government has intervened to legally censor media and people at will. The legal system has been designed to prevent besmirching irrelevant comments being made in public by individuals. I am unsure where the myth we have freedom of speech in Australia originated but it is a myth. ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by freediver on Jun 22nd, 2023 at 5:36pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22nd, 2023 at 5:34pm:
Just because you cannot find the piece of paper telling you that you have something, does not mean you don't have it. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Setanta on Jun 22nd, 2023 at 6:03pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 20th, 2023 at 10:55am:
Hit your head again, eh? That explain's it. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Brian Ross on Jun 22nd, 2023 at 6:32pm freediver wrote on Jun 22nd, 2023 at 5:36pm:
So, how do you explain the way society has been structure for most of the last 200+ years, Freediver? I know you won't answer but what the heck, why not ask a question, hey? ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2023 at 7:17pm Marla wrote on Jun 12th, 2023 at 6:36am:
Marla - you changed your profile info to hide your Marxism but it was recorded: |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by freediver on Jun 22nd, 2023 at 8:03pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22nd, 2023 at 6:32pm:
Is there anything in particular you want me to explain? Or just everything? |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by John Smith on Jun 22nd, 2023 at 8:24pm freediver wrote on Jun 22nd, 2023 at 5:36pm:
We've never had free speech in this country. Stop pretending otherwise. |
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by stunspore on Jul 4th, 2023 at 8:57am
There will be some guy complaining why they cant say "bomb" on an airplane as part of free speech.
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Title: Re: Free speech has gone: Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 4th, 2023 at 9:16am
I had known of a guy that claimed that he asked the security guard at the court about what would happen if he (the guy) had a knife on him? The security guard said that he would be in trouble simply for asking that. But because the guy was known to have had a mental illness, the security guard let the guy through without further incident.
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